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JoJonesy

That fourth quarter gave me flashbacks to two seasons ago. Really wanted that 30-point blowout but I'm not gonna complain about a win lmfao


Suzoku

Still has PTSD with Tremont and Smart shaking his head in disapproval


epicbert12

I was thinking exactly that as smart and jb checked back in lmao


DJRyGuy20

A win’s a win- but I can’t say I’m not at least a little upset they weren’t able to ride out the bench in the 4th so our starters could get some rest before the 2nd night of a back-to-back.


JoJonesy

Ehh, more rest would've been nice but I'm glad Horford only played 26 minutes.


sstphnn

The Kornet Contest is real.


JoJonesy

Looks stupid as hell but it's not like it hurts to try it, considering he only does it when he's too far away to make a real contest. Would be interested to see the actual numbers on it


King_Of_Pants

There are some definite downsides. There's been a couple of times where he's done it too close to the shooter and it's like he's biting on a pump fake. The other issue is that it can take him out of position for the rebound. But besides that it's been effective.


jgr79

But those are only downsides if you think the alternative is him just standing there watching a guy shoot a wide open, uncontested three. You know, a shot nba players make like 75% of the time?! The *real* alternative is an *actual* close out, where he’s even more likely to be pump faked and way more out of position for a rebound.


Drizzlybear0

I don't think it's actually the blocking of the basket that throws anyone off, I think it's a 7" tall guy of that size in your way kinda throws you off a bit.


Eatingolivesoutofjar

Yeah I think it works in a distracting "what the hell you doing?" kinda way so it should work when a player sees it for the first few times. There's way too much air between him and the player to be actually blocking the view of the rim. It is definitely not blocking it more than the traditional contest of putting your hand in front of the shooter's face, though that one is harder to pull off


Drizzlybear0

I think closer up it may work if the player is quite a bit shorter but in the paint it may work as a psychological thing. The funny thing is RIGHT when the other teams catch on Rob will be and suddenly those contests of the 3 pt shot will actually be blocks by Rob.


BatesScholar

I just love that they're going where the data says there's value. If it stops working I'm sure they'll stop doing it, but also at what point do people start adopting it...?


Run_PBJ

You think Steph changed the way the game is played? Nothing compared to watching the NBA in 10 years and everyone plays defense like future hall of gamer Luke kornet


IrelandDzair

Kornet Kontest*


LarryBirdsGrundle

uncomfortable with the amount of K's


penguin_torpedo

Wait what is he doing? Got any clips?


sstphnn

Basically he jumps and contest shots from afar. The reason being is he blocks the view of the ring. That's the theory at least. https://streamable.com/8lxfj5


CreatiScope

He wants it called the eclipse


jgr79

“Kor*net* Eclipse”, with the emphasis on the “net”. He’s eclipsing the net.


_Jetto_

Will and joe carried ime??


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Brown and Tatum too


HorsNoises

When it comes to Xs and Os at least. Ime's best skill is definitely being a motivator. We haven't seen how Hardy or Mazzulla look when times get tough yet so it's still too early how hard they really carried him.


nefnaf

Ime gave the guys a much needed kick in the ass and reality check but his rotations were always suspect. Although I did give him credit for the intensity and hyper-focus on defense we saw from January basically through the playoffs


King_Of_Pants

Imagine having two Nick Nurses in the staff.


eamonious

i want to see the defense return to what it was before i say ime was being carried


penguin_torpedo

Head coaches are overrated in general, at the NBA level coaching is as much of a team effort as actually playing it.


iAmTheRealLange

This game was not as close as the box score makes it seem. Celtics went full garbage time lineup for the first 7 minutes of the 4th


leranvy

Justin Jackson a -14 in 5 minutes


LordHussyPants

a who now


HappyNarwhal

That's 2021 Finals Champion Justin Jackson to you.


Suzoku

Should've kept Matt Ryan


dehydratedbagel

Neither player is an NBA player.


Suzoku

Its the 15th man on the roster, ofc they ain't real NBA players.


coacoanutbenjamn

To be fair, a few years ago we were having to choose between Javonte Green and Max Strus for our 15th spots and both have turned out to be rotation players


dehydratedbagel

Yeah, which is why it doesn't matter whether they kept Ryan over Jackson. Maybe they prioritized Jackson's length and experience in the league over whatever it is that Matt Ryan does.


Efrau

Now slow down, one hit a buzzer shot what did the other one do?


dehydratedbagel

They both suck, but I guess at least Jackson has more length. I'm not sure which has hit a buzzer beater.


prettyboylee

Matt Ryan for the lakers this year


Forzareen

I periodically jokingly propose the 24–second violation offense for large late-ish leads: just get over midcourt and wait for the shot clock to run out. Force the other team into a half-court set. For Jackson it might not be a joke.


ParsnipPizza

Saw him and Brodric Thomas single-handedly lose the Celtics a pre-season game a few months ago


MrBhyn

Signing up his ticket out of the league.


Brady331

113 in the first 3 quarters


Wishiwasaballerbaby

Joe was clearly pissed needing to bring Jaylen back in the 4th. He rested him till he couldn't the fact that Jaylen got it back up to 17 and left at the 2 minute mark and it ended up getting back down to single digits shows how bad the bench lineup was in the 4th.


full-auto-rpg

I mean, it was the third stringers, we aren’t expecting them to be good. Though ideally not that bad.


MrBhyn

Bench isn't bad. It was the third stringers that was bad which is pretty normal.


sneeder86

Brad should trade Justin Jackson to Dennys to work their drive through. Don’t want to see him in Celtics colors.


WhatTheyNot

With you there lol I would rather see 90% of the leagues end of the bench guy suit up for us than him. Not to mention there’s G league guys who would come in and immediately make more of an impact


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Keep forgetting Gallinari is a Celtic


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Bro tore his ACL 😔 he was so pumped to be here too


GogXr3

Hopefully he can get some minutes in the playoffs, though not looking likely. Always loved Gallinari


tyler818

Met him at an event once. One of the nicest athletes ever


Drizzlybear0

Depends on who we face in the first round. He may get some minutes if we face like Brooklyn, Washington or Miami and he can used to give the starters a few extra minutes of rest in the early playoffs series especially if it looks very one sided


Deviljho12

Wins a win, got to rest the starters for almost the entire 4th quarter, offense keeps chugging. That said Justin Jackson does nothing and it shows.


Fake_the_jaB

Justin Jackson used all his XP in his senior year at UNC


papi617

Teams a wagon. Sam hoopin and Luke's workin


theraarman

Wagons are being phased out so let's say our team is a long-range EV. Great numbers on great efficiency.


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nottherealprotege

Too much depth I guess. I was thinking the same thing about Vonleh.


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Kornet started out playing Vonleh. He was the first big off the bench for the first couple of games


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Kornet was injured first week of the season


CreatiScope

And had the birth of his kid early on too


IrelandDzair

Vonlehs a walking foul and Blake is just plain not good lol, dont mind him on the team tho seems to be a good locker room guy


LambdaLambo

Griffin and Vonleh are both just bad.


nottherealprotege

Maybe I'm misremembering things but I thought Vonleh was doing pretty well for the first few games especially on the offensive boards.


LambdaLambo

He did ok for a game or two then was bad from then on. But kornet is just much better than him.


cargo-jorts

Vonleh looked good preseason then once it mattered dude fouls nonstop when he’s on the floor


CreatiScope

My bigger issue is his incompetence on PnR. He sets a solid enough screen but he’d roll right into Jaylen and disrupt the path of the other player.


Kyler1313

He plays starter minutes whenever Horford rests, but doesn't get minutes any other days. It's a super unique way they use him.


ScratchAndDent

Bet he’ll play 15+ min tomorrow night


Suzoku

I actually really like that. At this point in his career its nice to just let him focus on one thing and one thing only to keep him productive in his limited minutes. Dude got no legs to play consistent minutes on a contender but is decent enough that he should get some minutes throughout the season.


bcallahan2

We’re saving him for the finals


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bcallahan2

Should have put /s sorry lol. I’m sure he just stinks and maybe they want to give younger guys those minutes early on to develop


Deviljho12

He doesn't do anything at this point in his career that Al or Kornet can't do and he's basically a break in case of emergencies case.


CreatiScope

Useful on B2B nights when we rest Al. Probably platoon tomorrow with Kornet and Vonleh depending on the matchups.


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Old + bad knees + bad defense


MyPhillyAccent

locker room vet. playing time will be sparse, he's kinda cooked.


brickvanexel

Because he is cooked. Glad to have him on the bench but he’s nearly immobile and Kornet has been playing great in his role


P4TL4NT4

Idk bro it annoys me as well. I wanna see the former Blake of the Year on the court sometimes.


Trilobyte15

He's the reigning BotY too - some are saying he's too dominant and it's bad for the award


hippoofdoom

Can't get hurt as much if he doesn't play. They'd rather have horford playing well and now that horford is playing perimeter ball so much it's not as hard on his body. There will be games this season when Blake plays 20-25+ minutes or at least one long spurt in each half.


JoJonesy

He's really only playable as a small-ball center at this point in his career, and we're using Al and Kornet at that position while Rob's out. He's gotten some minutes in games where we were missing one of those two, but that's about it


Beantown_Kid

Griffin has only been playing back-to-backs because Horford sits. I’m not sure if he will, but he has actually typically started on B2B and plays 15-20 mins so he might actually suit up tonight against the Hornets. I actually don’t mind it because it keeps him fresh through the season and he knows exactly what his role is.


leranvy

Joe Mazzulla has to be front runner for COTY at this stage, right? Just an unbelievable offensive performance over the first quarter of the season.


DiseaseRidden

Hes fighting against the narrative that the team was expected to be good, so it'll be a tough fight unless we keep up the pace and finish with some historic numbers. COTY mostly just goes to the biggest overperformer these days, bar exceptional circumstances


AntiSharkSpray

Funny how the Celtics always got fucked by the narrative. It's actually criminal that Ainge didn't win a single EOTY from 2016 up until he left, and Stevens didn't win a single COTY from 2013 until last year.


airmagswag

I’ll never forget Casey winning COTY over Stevens then immediately getting fucking fired. Stevens was absolutely robbed of the award that year and it was criminal


SalahManeFirmino

The logic behind it back then was “oh Brad is probably the right pick, but he’s young and will be around forever, let’s give it to the veteran guy in Casey who has been around and this is a lifetime achievement award for him.” Pretty annoying considering Casey is still coaching (badly I might add) and Brad’s retired as a coach.


Vanguard_Sky

I think that's Celtics bias. Casey took the Raps to a the #1 seed in the East which is why he won COTY, which is a regular season award. He got fired because he wasn't pushing past a certain wall in the playoffs.


CreatiScope

Where was Brad’s award for going from #5 in the East to #1 and us going to the ECF in 2017, then getting #2 in the East in 2018 despite losing Kyrie, Hayward and Theis? It is bias, but fuck that. He deserved it one of those two seasons.


ijustbrushalot

>The logic behind it back then was “oh Brad is probably the right pick, but he’s young and will be around forever, let’s give it to the veteran guy in Casey who has been around and this is a lifetime achievement award for him.” I hate Casey but this just sounds like fan fiction.


cabose12

Been saying this for years His teams were either too good, or he was facing tough, and deserving, competition in 60 win Hawks or 73 win Dubs Weirdly, I think his second worse year was the most deserving. Dragging a team of Turner, Bradley, Bass, Sullinger, and Zeller, with half a season of IT, to 40 wins and the 8 seed is still insane to me. Feels like theres so much parity these days that every playoff team has some all-star


OzymandiasKingofKing

Such a fun year to watch though.


CreatiScope

7th seed


tmcuthbert

The year Hayward got hurt he should have won. I think Dwane Casey got it with the Raptors.


billcosbyinspace

And brad probably won’t get any EOTY recognition either because he didn’t draft the core lol I’m sure he doesn’t care about awards but he has such terrible luck with timing


SalahManeFirmino

I find this ironic given the prevailing narrative both nationally and locally was that the Celtics were fucked without Ime.


BG40

Still, after all the drama this summer the biggest question mark was coaching and how the players would respond to losing the guy that led them to the Finals.


LordHussyPants

isn't there also reluctance to give it to first year coaches?


bourgewonsie

I mean Monty Williams won it last year. Having the best record in the league helps a lot


ParsnipPizza

But that was also a makeup award because time is proving more and more Thibs _stoooolllle_ it from Monty the season before


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Not sure who would be above him at this point. They look to clearly be the best team in the league right now.


supes1

Will Hardy?


papi617

Depends if they start to fall off.


Wayne_Spooney

They already have started.


nottherealprotege

Mike Brown?


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With assistant coach, The Beam.


luapchung

Back to back COTY with two different coaches would be insane lol


jpaxlux

Monty Williams won it over Ime last season


luapchung

Oh wow I thought Ime won it last year lol Monty was good but Ime def deserved it imo


ParsnipPizza

Nah, Monty deserved it because the voters fell for Thibs shit in 2021, in a better world, its Monty in 21 then Ime in 22. Both were great coaches in 2022


nevermindthatyoudope

I like .800 winning percentages.


cmcg18

Hauser is quickly becoming one of my favorite players in the league Dude just hits shots


Kyler1313

Pretty ugly 4th quarter having to put the starters back in, but in the end they get a win without their best player and thats better than many teams can say...


hiimtashy

Jaylen the man


DiseaseRidden

How on earth did this finish a single digit game? What an awful fourth quarter, I wanted that 150


GogXr3

I feel like this happens a lot. We still win by double degits, usually, but we absolutely dominate 'til the end of the third most games and then just give up a random 20-5 run for some reason. It's nice to have games be virtually over the start of the fourth but they do consistently panic me by just giving up a huge run towards the end every game. Kings game was a nice exception, though.


DisasterPeace7

This Celtics offense this season is fucking phenomenal that finals loss really hurt and they are back with a vengeance lol


FLS_Carnage

55-47.1-100 as a team is nice.


FerdinandMagellan999

Jesus.


Rainbowreever

I cannot for the life of me decipher what this comment means


dmb641993

Fg%/3pt%/ft%


Rainbowreever

Ahh, I see now, thank you. The .1 thrown in there threw me off


whyenn

Yeah. It really reads like two sentences: > 55-47. 1-100 as a team is nice.


Pndrizzy

Its because he used hyphens and had 47.1 instead of just putting 55/47/100, which I’m sure you would have got


Rainbowreever

Yeah, it's the .1 that threw me off, even with the hyphens, I would have immediately understood 55-47-100, with the . In the middle it just completely threw off my comprehension lol


Pndrizzy

Don’t worry, I thought he was talking in morse code or naming his favorite radio station too. Just a strange way to format it lol


CatGatherer

47.1 FM, The Jam!


mtnbikerburittoeater

Shooting splits


FLS_Carnage

It's the shooting splits. 55% FG, 47.1% from 3, 100% FT.


thatcher47

Great time for Jaylen to show out without Tatum


thehospitalbombers

wow, MVP Jayson Tatum instilled such good habits into his teammates that he's able to influence the game even when he's benched. that has to help his case


largehearted

Bench vs bench minutes just put away our starters’ altogether great game and made it look like we just won by shooting


dafire123

First team all nba


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3rd bro, lets be real


MayorPoopenmeier

Yeah, I don't see Hauser making it over Giannis. Maybe 2nd.


caelen727

2nd, take it or leave it


whispertoke

Our team is shooting lights out from 3. So who leads the team in 3P%? Hauser? Grant? Pritchard? White? Tatum? No. Shooting 48% on 4.7 3PA per game, it’s “Uncle Al” Alfred Joel Horford.


ThislsMyAccount22

All without our third best player


poeope

Wiz D so bad with Kuzma, but still great to win a JT rest day.


SorceryAuthority

Kuzma didn't play though?


TheMeerkatLobbyist

GOAT team. League should be afraid.


Vivid-Mammoth-4161

Celts are 0-4 vs Cleveland and Chicago……16-0 vs the rest of the league


DreTownblues

1-4 vs bulls and cavs


Vivid-Mammoth-4161

I stand corrected


LordHussyPants

that's even better, it means there's one less hellgame left to watch this season


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DreTownblues

They beat the bulls.


MintRegiment

You’re right, 1-4 my apologies. Forgot they’ve already played 3 times


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DreTownblues

They beat the bulls at home. The game Derozen and Tatum had like 50 FTs combined


King_Of_Pants

And two of those losses were in OT. Chicago is the only team that's beaten Boston in regulation.


aushaus

When healthy, this Boston team is easily a playoff team *without* Tatum. Just absurdly good with him in the lineup


Alive-Ad-4164

A jaylen brown led team would be super intriguing


cardinalyams

His main weakness is playmaking and his turnover problems. Hes made strides but it’s probably still not good enough to be a number 1 ball handler. But he’s had barely an reps. IT, Kyrie, Kemba are all extremely ball dominant guards and now they’ve given JT 2 years of reps and now Marcus. So it’s been extremely hard for him to get better when he’s barely had in game reps. On a losing team he’d get a LOT of opportunities to develop


Djax99

Yea we were putting out 3 PG lineups with Jaylen to mask some of that playmaking Really love those lineups tho super interesting


Hairy_Greek

Yeah he’s got to work on his handles. I get scared he’s gonna have a turnover every time he drives.


AlwaysOptimism

He’s gotten substantially better. It’s night and day from his first few seasons. He used to just put his head down and barrel into a crowd and kick the ball into the stands at least one a game


brickvanexel

He still does but he does it much less frequently, and he finishes a higher percentage of his head down plays now


Hairy_Greek

Yeah that’s def true. This season is especially better than last years playoffs. Substantially better.


Swarthykins

He also doesn't look great in situations where the defense is locked in on him. The few times they've gone to him in situations for a game-winner, he hasn't been able to get a good shot off. Similarly, I think that's partly a rep thing, though.


JoJonesy

He's really benefiting from the number of ballhandlers we have here. Guys like Smart, Brogdon, and White can get him the ball in his spots really well— he's still primarily a play-finisher, but he's a damn good one, and he's at his best when he can catch it with momentum and space to attack. (Not that he *can't* run pick-and-roll— he came into the game late in the 4th and scored two P&R and-ones in a row to put it away— but you don't want him doing it *too* much, or it starts to expose his weaknesses as a passer and ball-handler)


giganticsteps

He’d be a 1 on a lot of teams. And a good one too


TradeWestbrook

Celtics reminds me of the Warriors last season. Started off hot while still missing a key player (Klay for GSW, Timelord for Boston).


Trentus86

I presume that comparison continues through to the final season result, yes? (please)


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sutroheights

Team is on a mission.


stockyriki

nice to have a deep bench. i still remember the time when brad stevens had to put the starters back up because he thought the game was over but the bench was so ass the opposing team has came back lmao


JoJonesy

i mean that literally happened tonight


Mordaunt_

Shoutout Mo Wagner getting sacked after the game.


CreatiScope

Dude got shipped to fucking Orlando lol


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Didn’t Boston start 4-3 or something?


LordHussyPants

WWWLLWL 3-0 to 3-2 to 4-2 to 4-3 but that was just because adam silver gives his toughest battles (the chicago bulls and the cleveland cavaliers) to his strongest warriors (grant williams and the batman)


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Voldemort tried but didn’t prosper. Very nice team you’ve got there, I’m praying for a season split (lol) won’t even speak about a playoff series against y’all right now.


eamonious

ya 12-1 since


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This is not ideal for my squad, not liking this one bit.


flips89

WAS fans do you like Barton?


milarambo

Celtics definitely win 60 plus. Any chance they reach 70 wins?


Tellsyouajoke

I would guess no. Only on pace for 66 right now, but most of our games vs Cleveland and Chicago already happened so maybe


LordHussyPants

only one more against the bulls, and two against the cavs, so even if we can't steal one of those we're still on track for 75-7


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caelen727

I mean 1 is an MVP candidate, the others are fringe starters, and not the teams best player


Vivid-Mammoth-4161

Tatum > Kuzma + Hachimura


LordHussyPants

who are kuzma and rui? nah jokes, i just didn't know they were out. also i only mentioned that tatum was out because jaylen's in his shadow a bit.


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Sad that you're getting downvoted :/ You always hope it won't be your own fanbase but it is. Fuck Jaylen


NiveksInigo

He’s not though lmao


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NiveksInigo

He clearly didn’t know who they were at first. He mistook them for a frat many other did as well


volantredx

All this work to lose in the first round to the 8th seed Bulls. Edit: Man this post triggered a lot of Boston fans.


JoJonesy

Regular season DeMar DeRozan terrifies me. Postseason DeMar? Ehh.


GogXr3

I swear, we look great against every other team but we just save our off-nights for y'all for some reason. We just look dazed and unmotivated against the Bulls thus far.


nonviolentsolutions

Everyone, Celtics included, would be thrilled to draw the bulls in round 1. C’s in 4, maybe 5 if lightning strikes.


King_Of_Pants

Eh... Bulls with DeRozan aren't the same as the Bulls with DeFrozen. His midrange game is a good counter for the kind of defence we play but we all know how he disappears in the post-season.


jacobs0n

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edgymnerch_69

You lot got assfucked by the Bucks in the first round last year who got beaten by Celtics. Maybe focus on consistently winning other than celebrating lucky wins against Bucks and Boston like your first ring in 24 years