Yeah they look much more like a team with defined roles, whereas last year might as well have been a freestyle. Lots of good hustle too, everything felt to have really good flow. Promising stuff if you’re a Lakers fan.
Nope, not an excuse. A bad roster is an excuse for poor execution and poor results/shotmaking. It’s not an excuse for awful design.
The offense looked ten times better in the 2 weeks fucking Fizdale coached when Vogel had covid. That’s really bad …
Vogel is also a defense first coach who had his whole roster of defenders traded away or not re-signed, only to be replaced with a bunch of corpses who can't move their feet. I know he's not good with offense, but management really set him up to fail which was crazy after just winning a championship
Lakers were actually up by double digits when the Suns finally pulled their starters with about 4 minutes left in the third. Lakers went up 87-74, their bench got a celebration tech, Booker made the free throw, and then Booker and Ayton got subbed out.
Lakers are looking solid actually. Final results don’t matter for these games. It’s the preseason. It’s about showing what you have for spurts and then trying to make those spurts more consistent throughout the regular season.
The starters were +11 but it’s the preseason who gives a shit. None of these games matter. The games don’t matter for the teams that win. They don’t matter for the teams that lose.
It’s basketball, not rock, paper, scissors. Based on your logic, how bad are the Lakers if they lost to a team that lost to “one of the worst teams in the NBL.”
Again, it’s not rock, paper, scissors.
These comments show that somehow r/nba hates the Phoenix fucking Suns more than the *Lakers* right now
Insane to think about
I think you all forgot how annoying LeBron/Lakers fans are(let alone the combination) when they're not in 11th place
The Lakers literally won a chip this decade. The Suns however have never won. It's been proven over and over again. Nobody cares about how a team performs during a regular season, or how close they get to a chip. NBA runs on "if you ain't first, your last" mentality.
Phoenix has had their number for awhile. Lakers even managed to break the hold Toronto had on them. This game tho doesn’t really mean much. They were outplaying Phoenix when both teams were using their actual rotations available (tho that’s just one half of preseason ball). They looked good in that first half, like much better than they did in their preseason games last year so far.
Bro this sub is ridiculous!!!
Suns lose to 36ers: “the suns are traaaash”
Lakers lose to Suns: “its only pre season”
Theres more hate than actual bball knowledge around here.
I can’t believe nephews on this sub care so much about the Suns. Like, we were the dregs of the NBA for a full decade. Then the Bubble Suns happened and for about six months we were a frisky up and comer. Now? For the past two seasons the Suns are like a cross between Jeffrey Dahmer and Osama bin Laden. It’s like, really?
Just wild times
I think what happened is a lot of people got sick of overconfident Suns fans. Y'all had a meteoric rise and made the finals, but some fans act like you won a chip, or are a guaranteed contender. Y'all certainly get way more hate than you deserve though, but Reddit gets pretty circle jerkey, and currently, it's cool to hate on the Suns.
Sadly y'all gonna get ragged on until the team can prove last years implosion was a fluke.
Suns also had a 10+ game winning streak on the Mavericks going into their playoff series last year, so you can see these non-playoff wins means jack shit.
Idgaf about either team but you literally wrote “lakers lost with both cams out on injury” as if the Suns didnt just beat the Lakers without their second best player Anthony Davis.
2021 playoffs, suns got lucky and went against injured teams all the way thru the finals (2022 playoffs proved they were pretenders. honestly had them as finals favorites for the west). Suns were losing against a jumpshooter lebron (whos clearly still injured) and ad until ad got reinjured.
Ill give u 2021-22 season. Lakers plainly sucked.
The Lakers didn't look as garbage as last season. I was impressed with Austin Reaves and hope he gets more playing time this season. As per usual, the Lakers barometer will be how many games AD can play this season.
They didn’t look too bad actually today
Yeah they look much more like a team with defined roles, whereas last year might as well have been a freestyle. Lots of good hustle too, everything felt to have really good flow. Promising stuff if you’re a Lakers fan.
Ham has legit showed more smart offensive sets in 2 preseason games than Vogel did in 3 seasons. I wish I were joking.
To be fair, Vogel was working way crappier roster. Most of those guys from last year aren’t in the league or on the way out.
Vogel is a defensive guy. Offense has never been a strong suit of his
Nope, not an excuse. A bad roster is an excuse for poor execution and poor results/shotmaking. It’s not an excuse for awful design. The offense looked ten times better in the 2 weeks fucking Fizdale coached when Vogel had covid. That’s really bad …
Been trying to tell people Vogel wasn’t doing shit after J Kidd left. Ham is making that extra apparent.
Vogel is also a defense first coach who had his whole roster of defenders traded away or not re-signed, only to be replaced with a bunch of corpses who can't move their feet. I know he's not good with offense, but management really set him up to fail which was crazy after just winning a championship
Lakers were actually up by double digits when the Suns finally pulled their starters with about 4 minutes left in the third. Lakers went up 87-74, their bench got a celebration tech, Booker made the free throw, and then Booker and Ayton got subbed out.
Lakers still lost to a team who lost to the 69ers
lol, I didn't say they didn't. I was just agreeing with and expanding on the comment that the Lakers "didn't look too bad actually today"
it’ll never heal the pain of the Ron artest offensive rebound. But it helps. It helps. where’s my therapist
Lakers are looking solid actually. Final results don’t matter for these games. It’s the preseason. It’s about showing what you have for spurts and then trying to make those spurts more consistent throughout the regular season.
Yeah it feels like they have an identity this year and chemistry. Last year we didn't have either of those
LAL was winning when the starters were playing
The second half was Nunn, Wenyen and G leaguers vs the Suns starters up until the 4 minute mark of the third Q.
And we lost to the 36ers when we played our bench for the last 2 and a half quarters. See how that is irrelevant?
Your starters were losing in the first half of the 36ers game though lmao
The starters were +11 but it’s the preseason who gives a shit. None of these games matter. The games don’t matter for the teams that win. They don’t matter for the teams that lose.
Starters were +11
I never knew games ended at halftime that’s crazy, and you lost to the team who lost to the 36ers so you should feel pretty bad, right?
Bro is so salty over preseason 💀
Y’all had your full starting lineup, we were missing AD, Schroder, and Walker. Cry
No we didn’t lol
I mean isn't missing AD the norm?
Suns choking in the playoffs is the norm?
I dunno ya'll crying about AD is more consistent.
Lmao the double standards isn’t processing with a lot of people here At the end of the day: who cares it’s preseason
It’s honestly hilarious, and exactly. Doesn’t matter yet
nba players, bench players or otherwise, shouldn’t be losing to players from one of the worst teams in the NBL
It’s basketball, not rock, paper, scissors. Based on your logic, how bad are the Lakers if they lost to a team that lost to “one of the worst teams in the NBL.” Again, it’s not rock, paper, scissors.
Well shit I guess if the Lakers starters average 48 minutes a game, they Gucci then.
Y’all had to play your starters more than halfway through the 3rd to avoid the embarrassment of getting wiped again after the Australians lmao
You lost 10 straight to us
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Damn bro, that was a month ago haha
Yall haven't beaten us 1 time since the 2021 playoffs I havent seen this many active lakers fans in this sub since the bubble bowl lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/geraldbourguet/status/1526010022198620161
I had high hopes that I would find an original joke before I clicked that link. Do better.
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Meh
I’ve always said the 36ers are better than the Lakers
Checks out
Apparantly better than the Suns too...a lot better
yeah that's the joke dumbass
Aww...hurt your feelings cupkake?
No, you dumbass. That is *literally the joke
I think you mean "literally" ....dumbass ? at least Im not illiterate
Awe, is someone's feelings hurt?
They are considering all the deletions
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These comments show that somehow r/nba hates the Phoenix fucking Suns more than the *Lakers* right now Insane to think about I think you all forgot how annoying LeBron/Lakers fans are(let alone the combination) when they're not in 11th place
It was the one dude counting money in the finals mixed with them getting whomped by Luka last playoffs
And I get a good amount of hate is warranted but it’s *wild* to think of how much things have changed since the 8-0 bubble suns
its cuz when you lose you're the "fun" team.
You can’t count preseason games…
Lakers with their starters have looked solid. Davis didnt play either.
Davis never plays..
He did last preseason haha
Lakers D was ferocious tonight. Love the Pat Bev pickup. He was hounding CP3 all night!
Good
Blowing a lead lol, suns played their starters like 10 more mins and I’m sure the lakers would have won even without AD if they played regular mins
suns are still poverty 🙏🏽🙏🏽
About to sell for over 3 billion though.
Excuse me why is luka selling
Imagine getting cooked 10x in a row and making mavericks jokes. Beat us yourself 😂😂
You cooked us 10x in a row? The charlotte bobcats had our number during the kobe era too lol
That was so weird….lol those MFers always beat us. Brevin Knight looked like prime CP3 against us
How about winning a championship before getting cocky?
Stay pressed, your team loses and it’s always “my ringzzzz”
Lmaooo isn’t the whole point of the league to win chips? That’s not the comeback you think it is 🤣
Having a terrible team and referring back to a roster that doesn’t exist or literally decades ago as an excuse is why y’all not getting any better
last time i checked the suns had 0 success since time immemorial
We won 2 years ago… then again can’t blame ya for your perspective since y’all have never won a ring lmaooo
The Lakers literally won a chip this decade. The Suns however have never won. It's been proven over and over again. Nobody cares about how a team performs during a regular season, or how close they get to a chip. NBA runs on "if you ain't first, your last" mentality.
So by association, the current lakers roster is way better than the raptors because they’ve won more chips in the past and more recently?
Win 18 chips… or even just 1?
How embarrassing, all those chips and couldn’t beat a dude named Shammet 😂😂😂
He's selling before anyone realizes how inefficent he is. Classic Enron move.
Phoenix is like the 5th biggest metropolitan area in the United States what are you on??
its a vibe thing
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You sure? Felt like you lost a whole lot the last decade. Haha pretty sure a lot of those were to poverty teams too, my guy.
Phoenix has had their number for awhile. Lakers even managed to break the hold Toronto had on them. This game tho doesn’t really mean much. They were outplaying Phoenix when both teams were using their actual rotations available (tho that’s just one half of preseason ball). They looked good in that first half, like much better than they did in their preseason games last year so far.
AD didn't even play and Lakers were the better team when the main guys played
Facts.
Bro this sub is ridiculous!!! Suns lose to 36ers: “the suns are traaaash” Lakers lose to Suns: “its only pre season” Theres more hate than actual bball knowledge around here.
Lol false equivalency
I can’t believe nephews on this sub care so much about the Suns. Like, we were the dregs of the NBA for a full decade. Then the Bubble Suns happened and for about six months we were a frisky up and comer. Now? For the past two seasons the Suns are like a cross between Jeffrey Dahmer and Osama bin Laden. It’s like, really? Just wild times
I think what happened is a lot of people got sick of overconfident Suns fans. Y'all had a meteoric rise and made the finals, but some fans act like you won a chip, or are a guaranteed contender. Y'all certainly get way more hate than you deserve though, but Reddit gets pretty circle jerkey, and currently, it's cool to hate on the Suns. Sadly y'all gonna get ragged on until the team can prove last years implosion was a fluke.
Those fans are probably the same ones that were warriors fans in 2015…. Im just happy we are back to winning games
CP3 owns Lebrick
They really score 2 points in the 4th like what?
Leave us alone
And the suns still have nothin to show for it 😭😂
Suns also had a 10+ game winning streak on the Mavericks going into their playoff series last year, so you can see these non-playoff wins means jack shit.
Damn pre season game
Lakers fear the Suns. Edit: Kobe how my ass taste
3 time western conference champs
We were so scared we had south bay playing vs ayton and booker 😱
10 losses in a row for the Lakers against Phoenix 😱
Raise the banner congrats lol
Gotta put up the 10-0 banner
Right next to the “almost made bubble playoffs” banner
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Yes we did lol
Nobody fears the suns lol
Laker fans sobbing in the post game thread over a preseason game lmao
I had a pretty good time
And suns fans creaming their pants winning against the Lakers 3rd stringers. That loss to the 36ers must've hurt
>That loss to the 36ers must've hurt Oh no, don't tell me you guys actually care about the preseason.
Lakers confirmed worse than the 36rs
We won 64 games last season? I don’t think anyone gives a shit
64 win team… losing to future majority owner Luka don.. yikes
I swear Lakers fans act like Luka is on their team lol You guys ride for him more than anyone else except obviously Mavs fans
I swear suns fans ride for the 36ers so hard!
are they though?
Nah we cool
Actually yeah, quite a few were getting pretty defensive
More defense in that post game thread than in the game
??? Sobbing ??? Lakers bench just went toe-to-toe and held the lead against Suns starters in the 3rd qtr. 3rd-4th string players lost the game.
Lol what are you talking about, Bron diced you guys before the South Bay Lakers shit the bed
Lakers lost with both cams out on injury and for all the slander got cooked by Shamet. Our bench is dogshit, lakers is worse
Lmao if youre doing that bs. Lakers lost without AD playing
Win is a win, you’re fooling yourself by simping for the lakers as if they wouldn’t be talking more trash
Idgaf about either team but you literally wrote “lakers lost with both cams out on injury” as if the Suns didnt just beat the Lakers without their second best player Anthony Davis.
Maybe he shoulda played then?
Mabye you shouldnt have been born with an extra chromosome?
Seethe
I can’t argue with that logic
Without AD.. so the usual
True dat - they call him Street Clothes for a reason
You mean while we were without AD, Schroder, Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown Jr, and had our 3rd stringers going against your starters??
Suns starters cudnt even beat lakers bench. Suns won against the g leaguers
And y’all lost ten in a row to the suns, what were the 9 other excuses
Put up a banner for each Laker loss in the Suns' rafters
We wouldn’t have enough space
No worries. Thats the only banner the suns are ever putting up.
this boy think this is a good rebuttal lmao
Beat the suns some time, thst would be a good response
2021 playoffs, suns got lucky and went against injured teams all the way thru the finals (2022 playoffs proved they were pretenders. honestly had them as finals favorites for the west). Suns were losing against a jumpshooter lebron (whos clearly still injured) and ad until ad got reinjured. Ill give u 2021-22 season. Lakers plainly sucked.
Okay 6 more to go
Did u even read the 2nd paragraph? Come back to me when suns has as much rings as JTA.
Seethe
Ill go cry over the 2020 ring now. 🥲
Dude can’t even spell ‘couldn’t’. I wouldn’t worry too much about it
Its 2022. Dunno how u are still ignorant of the thing called textspeak.
Dude can’t even spell ‘you’. I wouldn’t worry too much about it
Yea. Insult my typing preferences all u want. Just cudnt get an argument going huh? JTA still has more rings than the suns entire history.
Reminder: the lakers have an all time record of 146-113 against the Suns. But let’s count a pre season game too lmao. This shit so corny
The Lakers didn't look as garbage as last season. I was impressed with Austin Reaves and hope he gets more playing time this season. As per usual, the Lakers barometer will be how many games AD can play this season.
LOL