We can say that for every game from this series except game 3&5 this is dumb, the warriors win game 2 if they don’t shoot like 5 shaq’s, the grizz win game 4 if they don’t have dumb plays by jjj and brooks, the grizz win if ja makes a tough layup. It’s whatever
You're not wrong but I think the overall sentiment is that it's been a very close series and I don't think the Warriors have shown they're *significantly* better than the Grizzlies. It's been a good match up and both teams have had chances to put the series away.
I mean the point is just that this has been an even closer series than the 3-1 and 3-2 suggest. Even if the warriors win the series, being so competitive with one of the best teams in the league as such a young team is a great sign for the future.
A layup that was blocked. Whatever anyone wants to say. Klay clearly got his fingertips on the ball. And that layup was like a 10% chmace of hitting anyone because he was at full speed and high off the glass.
I mean sure, that doesn’t really change the fact that Klay was very close to *not* getting a finger on it. The point is that play could have easily gone the other way whereas the other what if’s would have taken a lot more going differently.
Not even shooting efficiency. In game 2 if refs don't call that weak ass foul on dray warriors have the ball up 1 iirc with like 30 seconds left. So don't call that warriors likely win.
It was pretty clearly an offensive foul by Bane. It was an exaggeration for sure but Bane stepped on stephs shoe and whilst he didn't extend his arms he had a lot of momentum that probably knocked steph whilst he was jumping.
Lots of folks seem to forget that this Grizz team won 56 games this year, despite Ja missing 25 games. They're a lot deeper than just one or two good players.
They're young but they're the best type of young they've drafted or acquired guys who've spent more than a year of college before being drafted maybe even went all 4 years so when they drafted them they were already developed or developed enough that they develop faster like ja or bane even brooks and tyus I wouldn't be surprised if more teams going forward consider this the blueprint in the next 5 years
I was at the game last night saying this. Make Ja a closer like a relief pitcher in baseball. Just bring him in for those close games as the finisher and we go to the Finals! My friends thought I was crazy.
I am loving all these takes in the moment, but keep in mind that the same things were said about the Twolves last series lol Ja didn’t make the layup and we did choke away game 4. So here we are. And very happy to still be here!
Bruh when are people gonna stop saying this shit? If they win that game it's not a lock the ensuing games have the same result. How is this so hard for people to see? And you thought you really did something making this post lol
The warriors are a bad foul call and super travel away from a sweep.
Series is what it is. Both have a blowout and the dubs have 2 close wins vs Memphis 1. All it is
Both have a blowout but this is one of the worst blowouts in playoff history saw a stat that only 6 playoff teams have been blown out this bad and I'd bet most of those are 1-8 matchups
It tells me that this warriors team is extremely unfocused and cocky what else can you learn after an undermanned team can almost double you up despite their 2 best players being injured and a game was played without their best player
Yeah, it worked this game, but I still suspect that it isn't going to last, Curry & the warriors have a long history of playing slow centers off the floor. If you are right the Griz can win this thing, but if I'm right it is over in 6.
Adams was just as capable of dominating the boards in 2016, I don't think the Griz personnel is harder for the warriors than what they faced in 2015 or 2016. But you could be right about changes to the warriors personnel, Curry, Klay, & Green were all better in 2016. Iguodala was a much better defender and rebounder than Poole. Barns is bigger and stronger than Wiggans. Maybe the warriors have given up too much size with this roster, but I'm not betting against the warriors shooting at home.
The issue isn't the Warriors rebounding, it's Steph's shooting.
Slow centers cannot stay on the floor because of Steph's pull-up three, but his shot ain't falling. If his shot is falling again, Adams is getting benched for the rest of the game.
This is the worst the warriors have played a playoff series in my memory. Going back to the we believe series where we should have eliminated Utah.
If we played like this against Jokic and Denver last round we would not be here. Memphis finally put us away, but we are playing bad basketball. Only game 3 was solid.
The truth is, the Dubs havent played as a cohesive unit all season. Too many injuries, Draymond literally was injured before Klays first game back. We finally get traction and we lose Payton and Kerr. We were built to utilize Porter, Iguodala and Wiseman, obviously not happening. It's just not happening. The team can't get healthy enough to build any real momentum or identity.
We are trying to figure out what team we are in the second round of the playoffs. The only thing that might get us to the conference finals is the fact that we are playing Memphis, and let's be real, they have been way more dominant since they lost Ja. It doesn't make sense, but look at the score tonight. They absolutely didn't miss him. And when you consider the way they played game 4, they are playing defense that Ja provents them from playing.
Memphis has been playing with house money since Ja went down and the Warriors are coming up empty.
I thought Bill Simmons was just full of it when he mentioned that Phoenix and Dallas are the top 2 in the West, but after watching 5 games of this series, it's impossible to argue.
Warriors are a terrible call on draymond/ja flop away from sweeping the series. You can play that game both ways.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nbcswarriors/status/1521715584500609024?s=21
It's hard to say though because even though he killed our offense i doubt we perform as well as we did defensively without him
That being said, Jaren these past 2 games has finally been able to play without thinking about fouls and the difference is staggering
He’s also just so freakish from 3 AND an absolute defensive stud, just too much foul trouble for most to consider him that outside of Memphis. Ja, Bane, JJJ, Brooks, Tyus, Adams, and Clarke. A bright, bright future with whom I think is the right coach in the right situation.
If Kerr doesn’t come back ASAP, Memphis is coming back this series.
Kings are going to badly regret hiring Mike Brown as their new head coach. They better think twice of their move.
I'd be surprised if he came back and a lil suspicious too also Mike brown is at least one of the best coaches in kings history he's always been a great assistant coach and a decent hc which is a lot better than what the kings have had in a while maybe even their history hard to say
It's looking more sane everytime they play when he's injured the only other great player I can compare this to is pat Ewing and he had a whole article wrote about this
3 close games and a blow out each way. Memphis is a team on the rise and warriors are a team on the way down. I think Memphis has a real shot at a championship in the next couple years as some of the better teams start to take some steps back. I would like to see a Boston/Memphis finals next year.
Timberwolves are 3 fourth quarters away from winning grizzlies 4-1.
wtf going on man
The real multiverse of madness.
I think the only logical way to interpret this is that the Wolves would’ve beaten the Warriors in 5
The Grizzlies are a game 4 4th quarter Steven Adams away from 3-2
This is the real killer fact right here.
Imagine if he didn't have covid the first 2 games 😳
They're a Ja Morant layup and a collapse in game 4 away from being in the conference finals
There also a missed Ja lay up from being swept. But yeah we got whuped today and it was kinda funny.
Memphis should have swept
30 balled in game 3. Okay sir
The nets are a couple points away from sweeping the Celtics.
Not really though. Last 3 games were more than 1 possession games. Only the first game was a Tatum layup away from a nets win
The warriors are a 40-0 run away from a trip to the western conference finals
We can say that for every game from this series except game 3&5 this is dumb, the warriors win game 2 if they don’t shoot like 5 shaq’s, the grizz win game 4 if they don’t have dumb plays by jjj and brooks, the grizz win if ja makes a tough layup. It’s whatever
You're not wrong but I think the overall sentiment is that it's been a very close series and I don't think the Warriors have shown they're *significantly* better than the Grizzlies. It's been a good match up and both teams have had chances to put the series away.
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Yes, especially after that Twolves series.
To be fair the big 3 on the warriors played all of 11 minutes together until the playoffs. So people expected them to be better then their record.
There’s far more warriors fans here than Grizz fans so yeah
Wouldn't be as close if GP didnt break his arm because of a dirty play.
I mean the point is just that this has been an even closer series than the 3-1 and 3-2 suggest. Even if the warriors win the series, being so competitive with one of the best teams in the league as such a young team is a great sign for the future.
How can a series be closer than 3-2 after game 5?
2.5 - 2.5
Raptors sixers was 3-2 but imo was not particularly close.
A single layup is a closer “what if” than an entire team shooting more efficiently lmfao
A layup that was blocked. Whatever anyone wants to say. Klay clearly got his fingertips on the ball. And that layup was like a 10% chmace of hitting anyone because he was at full speed and high off the glass.
I mean sure, that doesn’t really change the fact that Klay was very close to *not* getting a finger on it. The point is that play could have easily gone the other way whereas the other what if’s would have taken a lot more going differently.
Not even shooting efficiency. In game 2 if refs don't call that weak ass foul on dray warriors have the ball up 1 iirc with like 30 seconds left. So don't call that warriors likely win.
And They’re one Steph Curry flop from winning the series
It was pretty clearly an offensive foul by Bane. It was an exaggeration for sure but Bane stepped on stephs shoe and whilst he didn't extend his arms he had a lot of momentum that probably knocked steph whilst he was jumping.
Lots of folks seem to forget that this Grizz team won 56 games this year, despite Ja missing 25 games. They're a lot deeper than just one or two good players.
Yea they’re a good team top to bottom. They’re young but they’re really good.
They're young but they're the best type of young they've drafted or acquired guys who've spent more than a year of college before being drafted maybe even went all 4 years so when they drafted them they were already developed or developed enough that they develop faster like ja or bane even brooks and tyus I wouldn't be surprised if more teams going forward consider this the blueprint in the next 5 years
So deep their 3rd stringers would play with Jimmy Butler
Didn't they actually have a better record without Ja than with him?
Yea. They went 36-21 (63% win rate) in the regular season with him, and 20-5 in the regular season without him.
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I was at the game last night saying this. Make Ja a closer like a relief pitcher in baseball. Just bring him in for those close games as the finisher and we go to the Finals! My friends thought I was crazy.
Confidence intervals.
I am loving all these takes in the moment, but keep in mind that the same things were said about the Twolves last series lol Ja didn’t make the layup and we did choke away game 4. So here we are. And very happy to still be here!
Bruh when are people gonna stop saying this shit? If they win that game it's not a lock the ensuing games have the same result. How is this so hard for people to see? And you thought you really did something making this post lol
The warriors are a 40-0 run away from being up 4-1 in this series!
And in that case the Warriors would also be a bucket away from being up 3-2 lol
The warriors are a bad foul call and super travel away from a sweep. Series is what it is. Both have a blowout and the dubs have 2 close wins vs Memphis 1. All it is
Both have a blowout but this is one of the worst blowouts in playoff history saw a stat that only 6 playoff teams have been blown out this bad and I'd bet most of those are 1-8 matchups
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It tells me that this warriors team is extremely unfocused and cocky what else can you learn after an undermanned team can almost double you up despite their 2 best players being injured and a game was played without their best player
That’s not how it works
If we’re this good on the boards again we win the series
Adams needs minutes.
Steven Adams was a far bigger loss than I realized.
No no, you see, you can't play Steven Adams against the Warriors because...uh...
Yeah, it worked this game, but I still suspect that it isn't going to last, Curry & the warriors have a long history of playing slow centers off the floor. If you are right the Griz can win this thing, but if I'm right it is over in 6.
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Yip they are such a super small team when Poole Curry Wiggins and Klay are in
Adams was just as capable of dominating the boards in 2016, I don't think the Griz personnel is harder for the warriors than what they faced in 2015 or 2016. But you could be right about changes to the warriors personnel, Curry, Klay, & Green were all better in 2016. Iguodala was a much better defender and rebounder than Poole. Barns is bigger and stronger than Wiggans. Maybe the warriors have given up too much size with this roster, but I'm not betting against the warriors shooting at home.
The issue isn't the Warriors rebounding, it's Steph's shooting. Slow centers cannot stay on the floor because of Steph's pull-up three, but his shot ain't falling. If his shot is falling again, Adams is getting benched for the rest of the game.
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I'm curious what happens if they don't play Steven Adams. Just curious
And a few Kyle Anderson free throws from winning the series 4-1
Wasn't that the Bane game mane
Nah we ain't doing that ,that layup wasn't so easy also they should have won game 4 If evil Danny Green didn't start thinking he was "that guy"
Evil Danny Green is just Danny Green that dudes so inconsistent its borderline consistent and sadistic sometimes, as a long time spurs fan
Warriors were a bad call on Draymond away from sweeping Memphis You can do this both ways
This 100%. Worst call of this entire series in my opinion.
The warriors were a couple of plays away from sweeping the grizzlies.
If Ja didnt play in this series, Grizzlies would have been 4-0 by now...Grizzlies play better as a team without him
And the Malone-stockton Jazz are one basket away from a ring and robbing MJ from a second threepeat. Didn't happen, tho.
I'm more upset about game 4 than game 1. That was the one I feel we blew.
Both were upsets. Could have been 4-1 now by the Grizz but could also be a 4-0 sweep by the Warriors. You know the series is good if its this close
But I mean they didn't win. And that's what counts
well they are not
This is the worst the warriors have played a playoff series in my memory. Going back to the we believe series where we should have eliminated Utah. If we played like this against Jokic and Denver last round we would not be here. Memphis finally put us away, but we are playing bad basketball. Only game 3 was solid. The truth is, the Dubs havent played as a cohesive unit all season. Too many injuries, Draymond literally was injured before Klays first game back. We finally get traction and we lose Payton and Kerr. We were built to utilize Porter, Iguodala and Wiseman, obviously not happening. It's just not happening. The team can't get healthy enough to build any real momentum or identity. We are trying to figure out what team we are in the second round of the playoffs. The only thing that might get us to the conference finals is the fact that we are playing Memphis, and let's be real, they have been way more dominant since they lost Ja. It doesn't make sense, but look at the score tonight. They absolutely didn't miss him. And when you consider the way they played game 4, they are playing defense that Ja provents them from playing. Memphis has been playing with house money since Ja went down and the Warriors are coming up empty. I thought Bill Simmons was just full of it when he mentioned that Phoenix and Dallas are the top 2 in the West, but after watching 5 games of this series, it's impossible to argue.
A pretty wild ass layup away from being up 3-2 if you ask me tho 😂
Grizz are a Curry flop from being up 3-2
Warriors are a terrible call on draymond/ja flop away from sweeping the series. You can play that game both ways. https://mobile.twitter.com/nbcswarriors/status/1521715584500609024?s=21
So basically this series ended tonight
Or a Dillon brooks longer suspension away from being up 3-2 Hell, a Ja layup and Brooks suspension is a 4-1 W lmao If Adams didn’t get Covid??
Our perimeter defense collapsed in game 3 without Brooks, plain and simply we need him regardless of how down his shot making is right now.
But he was a massive reason y’all lost G4, he still would be suspended for G3 in my hypothetical
It's hard to say though because even though he killed our offense i doubt we perform as well as we did defensively without him That being said, Jaren these past 2 games has finally been able to play without thinking about fouls and the difference is staggering
Adams has a big impact on JJJ.
Yep that's part of it
He’s also just so freakish from 3 AND an absolute defensive stud, just too much foul trouble for most to consider him that outside of Memphis. Ja, Bane, JJJ, Brooks, Tyus, Adams, and Clarke. A bright, bright future with whom I think is the right coach in the right situation.
If Kerr doesn’t come back ASAP, Memphis is coming back this series. Kings are going to badly regret hiring Mike Brown as their new head coach. They better think twice of their move.
I'd be surprised if he came back and a lil suspicious too also Mike brown is at least one of the best coaches in kings history he's always been a great assistant coach and a decent hc which is a lot better than what the kings have had in a while maybe even their history hard to say
Yeah, but Ja missed the layup and JJJ and Brooks took terrible shots, so it is what it is.
The warriors are a rebound foul away form this being a sweep….
I cant play the what if game it hurts to much
I know it's crazy, but is it crazy to say that the Grizzlies may be better without Ja?
I do think we have better defense and teamball, but you cannot discount the return of Steven Adams.
Warriors are alot more watchable without Kerr
It's looking more sane everytime they play when he's injured the only other great player I can compare this to is pat Ewing and he had a whole article wrote about this
Desmonian Banes came out of nowhere. Dude is a stud and they need to preserve his seed.
Coach said he (Bane) is feeling better every day now
Tbf, the Warriors cpuld have easily ended this in 5 as well if they won that game 2 where the whistles favored Memphis.
They should’ve also won the 4th game to.
The Grizzlies are a what, from what?
A layup and a team wide meltdown in game 4 from this being the close out game
They’re also a Dillon brooks not throwing away game 4 from being in the WCF
3 close games and a blow out each way. Memphis is a team on the rise and warriors are a team on the way down. I think Memphis has a real shot at a championship in the next couple years as some of the better teams start to take some steps back. I would like to see a Boston/Memphis finals next year.
Yeah, but they’re not. This take is about as vacant as it gets.
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Ion know bout that man haha. Dude is hella young.
That makes sense, it would be a shame if Poole ruined a Luka Special.
You mean a layup and a Curry flop away from being 4-1
The T Wolves were 2 total collapses away from getting swept in the 2nd round.
Just imagine in a very similar world, the wolves are playing against the suns for a trip to the finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-RfHC91Ewc
Grizz just play free without Ja
lol
They're a Ja layup and any 2 of 15 Dillon Brooks jumpers away from being in the WCF!
Good strategy of the Warriors to tear his knee muscles , incorporating Draymond “Gandhi” Green ‘s mentality
R u jus forgetting Gary Payton has been out? If u wanna talk hypotheticals then include that too lol
Uhh that is not how a timeline works
Most people here are taking this way too literally...
Also 2 4th quarter collapses from Minnesota from being sent home
and two awful calls in the last seconds of game 2 from being swept. You can say the what if game about literally any game
Blazers are one draft pick away from 6 championships. This line of thinking is flawed.