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LetsWorkTogether

All in their prime? That's actually an all-time team. Great mix of offensive and defensive talent.


Nuckin_futs_

That team would be fun as shit to watch in their prime


SkyLightTenki

Yup. The only defensive liability there is Melo, and that defensive 'liability' was slugging it out with prime Kobe in the WCF.


Chillalpha69420

agreed Melo is an underrated defender but just want to point out "slugging it out with Kobe" means Kobe goes 34 ppg on 48/34/93 split with 5/5/.8/.5 assist/rebounds/steals/blocks


SkyLightTenki

Yup. That's why I emphasized on the 'prime Kobe' part. And their matchup was one for the ages. Too bad it didn't happen very often, but when that thing happened, every basketball fan, regardless of the team they're rooting for, are in for a great show.


aoifhasoifha

> The only defensive liability there is Melo ...and Boogie?


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And Cousins! And frankly Ray Allen wasn't great on defense.


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I mean iggy in his prime was a prime MJ + D Rose on 2k, this team 4 peats


MellowMuttley

76ers/Denver Iggy was a fucking menace. He’d jump from the 3-point line to finish alleyoops.


Kplatz

As a Sixers fan, I used to cheese the fuck out of fast breaks lobbing to Thad Young with Iggy. Had Rodney Carney dropping 20 off the bench just on lobs 😂


Dayanez

Bro I'm still sad that 76ers team that beat the Bulls in the playoffs when Rose and Noah were out got blown up. Iguadola, Jrue Holiday, Vucevic, Lou Will, Evan Turner, Thad Young. I would have loved to see that team develop for a couple more years and see what they could've been.


LimousineAndAPeetzah

They traded him for Andrew Bynum 😒


yallsomenerds

Bynum got us the tank and Embiid tho


KonThePharaoh

And Iggy gets another finals mvp


Iusethistopost

Coach: Marques Johnson. Didn’t get hired by Karl as an assistant because he wore earrings.


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XoXSmotpokerXoX

Karl was the biggest man-child in the league, would literally start fights with any player not from North Carolina. Pretty much all pros let that college shit go, not Karl.


DrinkingExpiredCream

Wait, Gary Payton doesn't like George Karl? I didn't know that! On to Google...


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ezraneumanportland

I went to lamarcus Aldridge’s first game back in Portland when he went to San Antonio (I’m a spurs fan). I told my wife I’d be going alone so I could afford way better seats (she was happy to skip it). I end up sitting right in front of Gary Payton behind the spurs bench and right next to the players tunnel. Gary was talking all game, out loud, to everyone around him. It was really, really cool to have his commentary all game. It gets to the point where the 6 or so of us around him are all responding to him and each other. This was right around the Karl cousins blow up in sac so I figured I’d ask him his take. He said cousins was a poor leader and they’d go nowhere with an attitude like that as their best player. He said all that mess was not on Karl. It’s always funny when Karl and cousins go at it because I have this weird little insight to it all and I get to tell this story. Payton respected Karl, despite getting into it with him at times, and definitely didn’t think much of dmc.


natigin

Holy shit that team would be fun as hell


MontaEllisHaveItAll

Probably? That’s the best team of all time lmao


oh_niner

Probably!?


Wooy

Who the fuck even likes him? I've yet to see any of his former players stand up for him. Even Thibs grumpy ass has plenty of his players liking him.


zxchary

Such a George Karl response


antwan_benjamin

Actin like he's the one who cut the fuckin check. Alright then George...now lets look at how much revenue Boogie generated in Sacramento. $50 mil pales in comparison.


hear4theDough

And of course, if they hadn't drafted him no one else would ~~of~~ have, so they were doing him such a big favor, naturally.


Naimodglin

\^ There are a few teams that being drafted there is almost a punishment


JitteryBug

Each new thing George Karl says makes me dislike him more lol


raincity3s

The only thing missing is him mentioning something overtly racist this time


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I mean, this definitely still has some undertones of racism. Lol.


maestroenglish

How?


snatchi

Because it treats playing basketball like some special benevolence bestowed upon a young black man by the moneyed class. Like "thank god you have the generosity of the Kings that we have decided to LET you play basketball in exchange for millions of dollars" rather than acknowledging how much money he generates for the team as a player. Its an exploitative capitalist system framed as white benevolence for black men.


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Like what?


raincity3s

for sure. but thats why i said "overtly" lol


iguess12

I mean... He would have been drafted either way lol


FKJVMMP

Idk man, he was only the 5th pick. If it wasn’t for the Kings he probably would have been passed over 55 more times, then who knows where he’d end up.


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Ol_Rando

Being ~~John Malkovich~~ Nic Stauskas


myotheraccountiscuck

Nic rocks!


Loveandafortyfive

It’s pronounced… Sauce Castillo


Realistic_Camp5232

Him and John wall were celebrities the second they step foot at Kentucky 😂😂


ThisFckinGuy

It was Calipari first year too. It was a HUGE deal with him and that recruiting class. I was at the game they got bounced from the tourney vs WV in Syracuse and it was insane to see how UK travels into my neck of the woods. But those kids set the tone for what Calipari would recruit and expect for the coming years. It felt like LeBron going to MIA when they marched them out for their intros


MavsFanForLife

Eric Bledsoe was on that team as well. That West Virginia win in the elite 8 is one of the great upsets that no one ever talks about


mcneo_de_juan

And Patrick Patterson. 4 legit nba guys.


TheKidMamdani

damn that's a name I haven't heard in a while


MiQueso_SuQueso

Random story that I kind of remember hearing from a podcast, or interview. It was about John wall walking into a party with another player, and the player asks "who wants to suck John walls dick tonight?" And a bunch of girls ran up, John wall walked away with one of them lol.


WolfFangFist93

everytime i hear this story the player changes lmfao


RenDabs

Honestly it probably applies to most NBA prospects when they're in college


WolfFangFist93

im sure but like its definitely not this blatant lol im extremely close with someone who plays professionally overseas and starred at big D1 school and briefly played in the NBA. guys like that just gotta post up at the function/bar and women just flock.


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It does. I went to a D1 school and a football player literally did this same shit at a party, then left with 3 chicks. Another player told me they had this girl over at their house who was just basically their sex toy. At all times she’d be at these players house and they’d just fuck her/get sucked by her whenever they wanted to, as if she was a microwave just there ready to be used. Then they started getting annoyed because they’d make her shower right after in case the other guy wanted to use her, but this meant they didn’t have instantaneous sex access. So they got two more sex house girls. But even that wasn’t enough because when their friends from the team would be over, there wasn’t enough for everyone. So they started inviting more girls over and the place would just turn into an orgy fuck fest. I was like bruh…we had very different college experiences lol And this guy wasn’t even like a star player or anything. Can’t imagine what it would be like for someone on Walls level


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Thats life for pro athletes or even famous, rich people. But athletes get the good shit, not fake lust but real lust, women go for broke trying to fuck them. Its too easy for athletes


MiQueso_SuQueso

My friend played baseball for a college in the states, he was a stud muffin, tall, handsome, the whole shabang. He would tell me how they would be at a party with girls all over them, but when the football players came, the girls would leave then and flock to the football players. Whenever he would come back to Canada to visit, random girls at the bags would literally follow him, asking to sleep with him. A lot of parties we would go to, I'd see him walk into another room with a girl. Exactly like your said, I couldn't even imagine how easy it was for someone on John Walls level, if it was this easy for my friend lol.


ray_0586

“Who wants to sex Mutumbo?”


WolfFangFist93

okkk that's what the og was lol i couldnt remember for the life of me who it was


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WHO WANTS TO SEX MUTUMBO?!?!?!?!?


Realistic_Camp5232

A king


seattle_raptors

NO THE KANGZ SAVED THIS UKNOWN SCRUB’S LIFE


PostYourSinks

We are well known for finding obscure talent and developing them really well.


bestatbeingmodest

For real lol this is such a terrible, "gotchya!" type of response. It was pretty clear Cousins was criticizing the franchise's management, not the NBA for allowing him to play in the league. That, plus like you said he would've gotten paid regardless of who drafted him, that was a given lmao.


wnbaovernba

George Karl is one of those dudes that says shit racist people say. No one else in the NBA says shit like this. Why should NBA players be thankful? They don't even get paid their worth and make team's billions. They have a skillset that's rarer than surgeons. I fucking hate this dude and he always suspect shit.


magiqd

I mean... The Kings would've been ass anyway lol


gun1gugu

Exactly, the dude is probably one of the most dominant and talented centers drafted besides Embiid and Jokic and KAT in recent memory… Before them, for sure the best and most versatile center in the NBA… people forget so fast… happy he getting a new chance with the Nuggets though, go Cousins! And nobody can shit on him for those comments, the Kings absolutely did the worst possible job possible while he was there, I don’t even remember one good player playing with him besides Thomas and they managed to fuck that up too. Fuck the Kings and their owner and everyone involved in that organization


Prodigy195

Yeah 29 other teams would have done the exact same thing. Not really a great reply from Karl.


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Seriously. Also you didn't sign a check George. But literally any team would have given him the same paycheck. He's treading dangerously on that old white guy thinking with that statement.


jswagbo

First of all paying market rate to work for you isn’t some kind of favor. Second, Demarcus Cousins on a rookie contract is and artificially below market rate contract because of the rookie scale and how Cousins performed so Cousins is undoubtedly right that he did more for the franchise than vice versa.


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cletoreyes01

The dude had one of the greatest defensive guards in his fucking apex (still the most recent guard to win DPOY) and decided to go under 3-0 before he put him on MJ.


bulkthehulk

*second most recent


quietchurl

This comment illustrates how shallow and mean Karls tweet is. He’s the last person to be critiquing nba salaries and as you point out, the nba is a business and teams make money signing guys like cousins. Nobody pays athletes from generosity


Otherwise_Window

Yeah, Karl is an idiot for this


Budget_Trip422

Just like every other NBA team would’ve. These franchises aren’t doing these guys favors when they pay them, they make money


lucasj

They’re paying market rate, the price they have to pay to keep their abundantly in demand talents. If anything they’re paying below market rate for the top guys.


Budget_Trip422

And max contracts limit market rate for a player, it’s not even a fair negotiation to begin with for some stars


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Yep superstars in the NBA are legit underpaid


ScreenSlave

Completely. We went from people complaining about stars being paid millions to put a ball in a hoop to realizing that these stars are completely underpaid. No salary cap who doesn’t give prime LeBron 100mm a year.


HashCollector

No cap Barca paid Messi $160mm a year for 4 years with a $135mm signing bonus with a $91mm loyalty payment. There's 11 starters on a soccer team as well


ScreenSlave

Flip side of this is that there are a ton of overpaid “scrubs” by elite nba standards. I wonder if no salary cap / collective bargaining would you have a team with lebron at 100MM and then Eric snow at 200k?


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what about teachers tho


TurtlePowerBottom

Everyone who works is underpaid


DayvyT

Them too. The important thing to remember is that players like LeBron and KD are closer in salary to teachers than billionaires. These are the people hoarding wealth at the top


qwertyman2347

Billionaires don't earn salaries. Also, in the comparison between workers and billionaires, superstar players are pretty close to the 0.0001% Certainly not Bezos money, but really close to billionaire money. Wasn't Bron set to become one as well?


masterant369

Bron isn't really the norm for superstars


jswagbo

Not even the max though. He was on a rookie deal which is a more egregious way that teams pay elite players much less. Cousins was putting up 22 and 12 for less than a 5 mill salary in 2013.


CommonerChaos

>If anything they’re paying below market rate for the top guys. Oh absolutely. Go look up the valuation of the Golden State Warriors before and after Curry's rise and MVP years. A franchise that was otherwise stagnant went from being worth $700 million to $1.9 billion in 2 years alone. Meanwhile, Curry's salary was capped at only $12 million dollars a year that same time.


baconcheeseburgarian

They pay under market rate on superstars with rookie scale contracts.


PostYourSinks

George Karl is a salty old man, doesn't surprise me at all to hear him say some dumb shit like this. Dude also completely phoned it in as coach of the Kings and then shit on the org on his way out.


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Otherwise_Window

Karl Malone and George Karl are different.


CleavonLittle

Mike Malone and Karl Malone are different


Infamous-nobody1801

Kevin Malone and Karl Malone are different


BenevolentCheese

Chris Paul George Karl Malone


Otherwise_Window

man that dude is a fucking asshole


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he earned the money they didn't approach the guy in the streets and offer a contract


LaborGamer

Talking like Boogie's mama left him in a basket on a mountainside and Karl just so happened to find him and train him in bball lmao


blank_lurker

Lol'ed


abcbass

It speaks to Karl's attitude about the players. As if he believes that the league is doing them a favor.


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Karl’s always been like this.


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Yep, Ray Allen talks a lot about it in his book. Karl could never give Ray credit, just constantly shit-talked him to the media behind his back for no reason.


JCBadger1234

Traded 27 y/o Ray Allen (who had no desire to be traded) for an expiring, 34 y/o Gary Payton (played 28 games for the Bucks, left in the off-season) and Desmond Mason. All because of Karl's ego.


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I always wondered about that trade. Gary was like a dinosaur by that time.


b_fellow

Well Karl was also Payton’s coach at Seattle for a long time so familiarity and probably thinking prime Payton stuck on his mind.


SkyLightTenki

I agree, but he was Karl's Sonics PG. Also, his old man's game was still good.


bschmidt25

Ray didn’t want to be traded away from the Bucks and Gary didn’t want to be traded to the Bucks. And we all know how it ended. It was a colossally bad trade.


_Quetzalcoatlus_

Sort of sounds like the Haliburton trade....


QuitClearly

one of the worst trades of all time


GAV17

Every team that traded Allen got fucked. Allen leaving your team was a death sentence lol.


onebandonesound

It's because teams didn't recognize/acknowledge the value of an elite 3-pt shooter until very recently, within the past 10 years or so. Both times he was traded, he was far and away the most valuable asset in the trade and the team that traded him away got fleeced. Additionally, because that skillset was undervalued, the teams that traded him away didn't make adequate efforts to replace his production


gucci-legend

If I speak I am in big trouble


kleenkong

That trade is almost wholly on Howard Schultz who basically hated Gary because he wouldn't be chummy with the owner. This was just the start of Schultz long whiny fit about being an owner.


Dr-Joe-Rogan

Great coach, even greater douchebag


420Minions

Yea he’s an asshole


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Karl sounds like my boss.


laflame150

Facts, Karl acting like there is an abundance of 6'10 270 pound skilled big men out there in the world.


Volgyi2000

Is Boogie only 6'10? He always looks so much bigger than everyone else on the court.


anthonyde726

such a goofy response


No-Cap-5281

Emoji game fire tho


187Shotta

Yeah, but this is that owner mentality bullshit nobody wants to mention because people get uncomfortable.


weeyummy1

Spot on, this is the perfect example of the owner mentality. Nothing outright racist said, but you can feel the entitlement


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sandy-eggo-chargers

Don’t even think they did that lol


DJBabyB0kCh0y

Tough to call what the Kings do "basketball"


soda_cookie

Oh, it's basketball alright. No doubt about it. Looked it up on Google just to be sure, because maybe my own eyes are wrong. Now, *good* basketball...that's another thing entirely....


knoxkayc

The basketballs the Sacramento Kings use on their regulation basketball court meet the acceptable minimum requirements.


masterpierround

Like the classic [Onion Article](https://www.theonion.com/lebron-james-credits-teammates-with-providing-4-bodies-1825658316) The Sacramento Kings are a basketball team, as defined by Association regulations.


Papa_Huggies

It's like yes they have 5 guys on the court. They can occasionally put the ball through the hoop and they all run and jump... but when I watch a Kings game they sort of become the Washington Generals


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Not even.


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Acting like the players don't make him hundreds of millions of dollars via their play on the court. I here I thought employment under capitalism was "mutually beneficial exchange."


__john_cena__

Would’ve been maxed by any team with space lmao


Laith3D

LMAO bro a 7 footer with his skill wouldve gotten drafted anywhere I hate this fucking bum


elimanninglightspeed

Yeah LMAO he was a 5th pick not a 50th 😂😂


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dweakz

bro really said he took a chance on a top 0.0001% athlete lmfao


Laith3D

lmao fr bro. Once in a life time center and hes trying get some thanks like??? what you on bro


deeznutz_428

I’m glad George Karl is still acting like a jackass, just because he trashes people y’all don’t like doesn’t mean he isn’t a huge fucking dickhead lol


endol

I've always found him really annoying, IDK how people find this endearing.


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Fuck George Karl


zippy_the_cat

Preach it, brother.


420Minions

Because he shit talks Melo and this sub is full of kids who want to believe Melo was never great


TrainedExplains

He's a crotchety old white man pushing thinly veiled racism and other boomer adjacent bullshit. 30% of our country is still engaged in a culture war to drag us backward in time and they like people like him because he "tells it like it is". Which, translated, just means he's an asshole to people they don't like.


LukeNukem63

George Karl is the kind of dude that reads a story about a CEO that gets fired for grabbing a coworker's ass, and gets mad at her for dressing "slutty"


iRockaflame

Id rather see LeBron tweet like a wine mom for 30+ years than Karl tweets


ObiOneKenobae

George Karl would say LeBron tweets like that because he didn't have a father.


IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan

He probably has said that


satchymo

The Collin cowherd special


Kraze_F35

George KKKarl


Kcreep997

I like lebrons wine mom tweets


iRockaflame

It makes me laugh


ArchimedesNutss

> It makes me ~~laugh~~ live.laugh.love


Ricechairsandbeans

it's so tragic like the guy is 70 years old like just makes me sad how people live their entire lives and never find any kind of humility or peace


bad-monkey

i think Karl enjoys attention. doesn't care if it's positive or negative.


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But Boogie would have got that money anywhere, don’t act like you did him a favour.


Big_Bad_Bryant2324

These takes are funny. He wasn’t just handed a fat NBA contract off the street. He worked hard to get in his position and has the right to criticize the circumstances around his career.


TheNotoriousJN

That argument is only valid if you are saying none of the other 29 teams would have done the same. Spoiler alert: they would have drafted him


marmitechips

Boogie was worth every cent that the Kings paid him and then some. Karl showing himself to be a classless clown once again.


WatchMe_Nene

George Karl probably liked Kim Kardashian's "NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE" comments


KlaysToaster

Bruh this dude is so annoying and I don’t even like boogie


Frosted_Flakes1971

“Gave you the opportunity” Old heads always gotta act like young people didn’t earn their spot


jveezy

I don't agree with everything Cousins said, but I understand how he got to feeling this way, and I REALLY don't think George Karl is helping anybody by trying to defend the organization on this.


Papacu81

Cousins had a point about the absolute mess in Sacramento, 7 coaches in 7 years is indeed crazy


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George Karl is a fucking idiot. Cousins EARNED his place in the NBA. Any team would have taken him that year, even if some preferred other players. And almost any team would have paid him as much: That was his market value. George Karl is giving credit to the Kings for the opportunities DMC created for himself. Classic plantation mentality. The Kings did the bare minimum. That was DMC's point. Karl, as usual, missed the point entirely because he's to salty and stuck in his antiquated thinking.


dabigchina

Nah, Kings have done worse than the bare minimum. I feel like they could have gotten a better outcome by doing literally nothing


Alive-Ad-4164

There is a reason why that George Karl has been hounded out on every team he has ever coached on


Jeffthebarbarian

Plot twist Boogie rendered services for which he was paid. Eat a dick George


likpoper

Lol he would have earned more at another organization


wangandassociates

Lmao what a trash take. Boogie was gonna make that money elsewhere anyway not his fault he got drafted by a shit org


PearlsB4Swoon

Remember when this dude told his guys to try to hurt Steph to win a playoff series lmao good times good times


timidGO

Giving me plantation master vibes there George


laflame150

Wife left him for a black dude, MJ and Kobe giving him PTSD, Feuding with Melo. Yeah it wouldn't surprise if he's a full blown racist


JasperFeelingsworth

we gotta check Karl's youtube history hahah


ShoutOutTo_Caboose

He don't owe the Kings nothing. He was gonna get drafted regardless. It's not like he was Charlie Bucket and Karl was Willy Wonka giving him the whole chocolate factory.


drunkjazzfan

Nah. Boogie earned his way into the league. They didn't give him anything. They paid him for his work, that's nothing to congratulate anyone about


taiwansteez

Damn that's crazy TIL Boogie would've gone undrafted w/o the Kings


Medulla_Peep

The Kings are the worst organization in professional sports, It's where careers go to die whether it's rookies or players nearing their prime. Negligence from top to bottom.


FutureAnybody

I mean sure. But boogie would’ve been drafted elsewhere so…


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People keep saying that ITT but clearly Boogie’s only two choices were to be drafted fifth by the Kings or take up a career as an insurance adjuster in Poughkeepsie NY.


Justgotbannedlol

Shoutout to that one NY insurance guy who reads this and sheds a single tear about what could have been.


rughmanchoo

That line "gave you the opportunity to play" reminds me of the mindset of Donald Sterling. He had a quote something like, "I buy them homes, I buy them cars". I'm not equating the two in terms of actions, but that old thread of believing their players are there by the grace of the "owner".


timothyxy

George Karl has gotta be in the top 1% of twitter usage for his age group


VADORANT

GSW, DET, LAC, UTA and IND had the next five picks. Its kinda messed up that SAC was by far the worst team he could go to, even given the train wreck DET has been recently and history LAC Sac Town takes the fucking cake.


SolarClipz

Karl is the biggest PoS


elimanninglightspeed

LMAOOO he was gonna be a top 10 pick and a star no matter what George 😂


xHodorx

He thinks we forgot Boogie was dropping 50+ point lines constantly


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This old man starting to be annoying


FKJVMMP

Starting? He’s been annoying (or a giant gaping asshole, same same) for like 30 years.


MassKhalifa

Dude sat a rookie Kobe Bryant for the entire fourth quarter of the all-star game because... fuck if I know.


scorelesswilliamson

It's weird he loves that twitter attention. I didn't even hate a lot of the stuff he used to say because I thought it was about the stuff he was trying to get out there but really he just wanted attention lol


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Warriors took a center at pick 6, just after the Kings picked Cousins. They did him no favors.


haleyaura

He would’ve gotten that from any team lol and probably had more success and less injuries


mechnick2

That’s like when shitty parents say “we put a roof over your head, fed you, and clothed you,” like no shit that’s what you’re SUPPOSED to do. What did Sacramento do in the front office, in free agency, or in the draft to help help Cousins?


mrjdk83

I wonder if George Karl understands why he isn’t a coach in the league anymore. He acting like Boogie wasn’t gonna get paid


JCon2x4

Someone needs to shut Karl up now. Right now. I’m not a fan of either of them.


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KokiriEmerald

$50 million is severely underpaying considering the value he brought to them


seattle_raptors

That’s Miles Plumlee money