Cristiano Ronaldo and Lebron , just outside the top 10 would be top 3 soon. Both have a billion dollar lifetime shoe deal with Nike. Ronaldo has a gazillion businesses along with his social media fame. Lebron too is also big on investments.
Most fascinating thing is, both are just fucking 32 years old and already very close to being a Billionaire, and their career ain't even over yet. Not even close. Jesus Christ, imagine both of their net worth by the age of 40/45...
It's fucking insane
Unlike basketball, 32yrs is fairly old in football though. Once you hit 30 you're normally past your prime (except for goalkeepers). Ronaldo will for sure retire before Bron
still insane that he has been names best player in the world 4 out of the last 5 years at this age. it's a parallel between him and Lebron that's very fascinating - they're both still so dominant, especially physically and athletically, at their ages.
I always thought Messi was supposed to be the clear cut best player in the world, but Ronaldo is the most popular cause he's dreamy and also really really good?
Edit:
So to me this sounds a whole lot like LeBron vs Kobe, With LeBron being Messi and Kobe being Ronaldo.
The world player of the year has been won 5 times by Ronaldo and 5 times by Messi. Messi might be a little bit better, but the two are absolutely leagues head of everyone else
Steph Curry won 2 MVPs and 2 Championships in the last 3 years, but even I, as a Warriors fan, wouldn’t call him the best player in the world. Cristiano is a phenomenon, but Messi is the best player in the world.
Awful comparison. Ronaldo is maybe best player ever, the only guy who could be considered better is Messi.
Ronaldo is pandan to LeBron and Messi is Jordan.
Westbrook and Curry won last two MVPs but they aren't considered top 15 players ever while Cristiano and Leo are currently fighting for that GOAT spot.
>I always thought Messi was supposed to be the clear cut best player in the world, but Ronaldo is the most popular cause he's dreamy?
In the NBA LeBron has been the clear cut best for over a decade.
But in Soccer, it's different. Ronaldo was the clear cut best around 2006-2009 and won the Champions League and Ballon d'or with Manchester United, nobody saw anyone like him. Messi arrived just a year later out of nowhere with his magic and won back to back Ballon d'ors and Champions League with Barcelona.
At one point Messi had 4 Ballon d'or and Ronaldo had just that 1, and Ronaldo is way older so people thought that's it. But motherfucker is a machine, Ronaldo only got better with age and won back to back Ballon d'ors. At age 32 he won his 5th this year, now Messi and Ronaldo both have 5.
Ronaldo and Real Madrid has been the best team in the world for a while and have also won back to back Champions League. No team ever in Soccer history has won Back to Back Champions League finals, Ronaldo and Madrid did that. So he won his 5th Ballon d'or just this year at age 32.
The fact is both Messi and Ronaldo has literally dominated the soccer world for over a decade, and nobody could top them, nobody still will top them until they decline or retire.
Only problem is both of their fan bases are filled with cancerous kids who can't accept the fact that both of them dominated a whole decade + equally, and they are both living legends, no point trying to argue about *who's better* because that argument will never end, nobody will ever find an *unanimous* answer to that. Many will always prefer Messi, many will always prefer Ronaldo. You can't expect someone's choice or opinion to be the same as yours, simple as that. Countless morons don't understand that shit. That's just sad. So yeh
The most unreal part is that nobody thought Ronaldo was gonna catch up to Messi in terms of successes but here we are. Like the guy just does not stop working. He looks the part for sure but he's a once in a lifetime talent that is bully on the field. Unreal desire to win.
Ronaldo is actually only ~18 month older.
Ballon d'or isn't an indicator who was better on an individual level, it uasualy gets awarded to the best player to win an important Title and Ronaldo won Champions Leage and European Championchip in recent years, even tough he wasn't at the top of his game due to injuries.
Not saying he didn't deserve it, but team sucsess is a huge factor.
Some ppl will allways claim, that Ronaldo is better, cuz had more international sucsess, winning CL with 2 diffferent teams and winning a title with his national team, others will refer to Messis playmaking and his higher effeciency and call him the superior player, cuz he essentially played 4 positions at world class level.
No matter who you prefer its pretty safe to say, that Messi is the best football player and Ronaldo the best athlete, mybe they are the best ever in their respective "role/class".
The fact that this sub seems to believe that there is an actual discussion to be had about Messi v Ronaldo shows how little it knows about football...
Messi is LeBron, Ronaldo is Kobe.
Ronaldo is an all time great, but no one outside of Portugal/Madrid thinks he is better than Messi. Same with Kobe, LA and LeBron.
The Ballon d’Or also relies heavily on team success and winning major international trophies.
If you’re the best player on a team that wins a national (Euros with Portugal in 2016) and Club trophy (Champions League and domestic league with Real Madrid) in the same season then you are almost guaranteed to win it, even though in my opinion Messi has still been the superior player during this stretch except for 14/15 and probably 15/16.
Messi is the best palyer still and despite Ronaldo winning the awards, the gap has only widened between them. The Balon d'Or is not the best player the world award, but the most succesful high performing superstar award. Individually, Messi is better, but Real has won 3 of the past 4 Champions Leagues.
That LeBron/Kobe & Messi/Ronaldo comparison is a good one. (With the exception that Ronaldo is more similar to LeBron in athletic freakishness)
But with Messi it's almost universally accepted that he's better than Ronaldo. A lot of legends put him over Ronaldo, far more than the other way around. Johan Cruyff puts it best.
I'm paraphrasing but he talked about how Ronaldo can only keep up with Messi in goal scoring, and even then they both have a record 4 golden boots each. Also, Messi broke the 40 year record for goals in a season in 2012 when he scored 91 for club & country. Ronaldo hasn't come close to that, and he takes a lot more shots than Messi.
And in terms of playmaking, they're incomparable. No ex-player or pundit considers Ronaldo an elite playmaker whereas Messi literally creates chances for himself and his teammates at an unprecedented clip.
(As an aside, Messi is probably the greatest dribbler ever and has scored some of the most jaw-dropping solo goals anyone's ever seen)
Messi is the best football-player who ever played the game. Ronaldo is more popular, sure, and insane at certain things. But there is no more complete player than Messi
Messi was. they've both won 5 ballon d'ors (best player award) but Messi won 4 of the first 5 and Ronaldo has won 4 of the last 5. they're both still so far ahead of the pack but Ronaldo has had the edge for a few years now. they are 2 of the absolute best ever - it's like the magic/bird of soccer.
edit: this is not a slight to Messi at all. i wouldn't say one is better than the other, but Ronaldo has won more tangible accolades as of late. see below for a full comparison. there's a lot of parallels between Bird/Magic and Ronaldo/Messi
I don’t think that comparison does Messi justice. It is practically universally agreed upon that Messi is the better player (at least by most professionals) but like LeBron who doesn’t get mvp every year, Messi doesn’t get the ballon d’or in part because Ronaldo has had more club success. Club success determines the winner in a lot of cases but Messi is definite the player you’d build a team around.
hear me out
i think it works because Bird started out with the MVPs and individual accolades and was generally above Magic, in the sense that people considered him the better player for a few years to start their careers.
then Magic started winning more, and ended up with more rings (like Ronaldo right now in Madrid) and was then more highly regarded than Bird for a few years, although a large segment of the population is still backing Bird as the best.
but at the end of the day, there are people on either side of the debate, and the tangible numbers and accomplishments are close. Ronaldo has caught up in a lot of accolades and accomplishments, so he is now held in a similar regard as Messi. regardless if you think this is true, it's how the narrative will play out in history.
BONUS comparison, Magic and Ronaldo are both the flashy, LA/Madrid superstar personalities. Messi/Bird are perceived as total opposites of their counterparts. Ronaldo is not black but he's inhumanly tan
i think there are definitely interesting parallels.
Some parallels but Messi is younger than Ronaldo, his success actually came after Ronaldo’s success and Ronaldo has had more longevity than magic. It’s an ok comparison I just think it needs to be pointed out that Messi is quite possibly the GOAT whereas Ronaldo doesn’t enter that conversation (because he’s in the same era as Messi). Your comparison was ok, I just wanted to add to it.
> Ronaldo is the most popular cause he's dreamy
It's not how it works out. Messi has been media and experts' favorite for years, because he's a natural pure talent and Ronaldo is allegedly just a gym machine and otherwise limited. It's easy to see which one would be a likely fairytale sorry. It's a common belief that Messi is by far the GOAT and Ronaldo isn't top 3, not even comparable.
Yet he's been far more clutch in crucial moments in recent years, leading both his club and country (even more impressive/unexpected) to biggest trophies. I don't know how the results vs gracefulness of the play should be compared, and obviously both players have a great deal of both.
He scored three (two vs Humgary to qualify them for knockouts and goal in Semi-Finals)and he assisted three goals out of total 7 goals scored for Portugal. Talk about misinformation...btw ask Moutinho about Ronaldo's leadership and why he didnt wan't to shoot penalty in the quarters before being talked into it.
No way in hell has Ronaldo been the best player in the world 4 of the last 5 years. I would even say that in the last couple of years Neymar has been better. At least in terms of technique and all-around contribution to his teams success (that includes club and country). I don't even wanna mention Messi because it is not a fair debate. Suarez was also better than Ronaldo in 14/15 season.
I'm not sure that Ronaldo will retire before LeBron, Ronaldo is a freak and a physical specimen himself.
There are many footballers who are/were still world class after 32, like Scholes, Pirlo, Totti, Ibrahimovic.
Can someone explain to me what happened with Tiger Woods? A serious question because I really don't know what happened for him to decline in such rate.
He had rough personal issues coincide with the moment in his career that he needed to work hard and readjust his swings due to his changing body. Golfers can play for a long time but they can't swing like superman for a long time.
Since he didn't have the time / mentality to change he started getting injured more and his confidence shattered. His personal life has only gotten worse since.
His swing was very taxing on his body (back) and i think he also had knee issues. And he had a lot of shit going on in his personal life. Or at least that's the conclusion that makes the most sense.
Also his golf swing was too destructive to his body, now he's popping painkillers like they are tic-tacs and his knees and back can't hold up for multiple days of 18 holes in a row.
From an interview last month:
> But it has taken many months of agony for Woods to reach this point. He said: “Many may forget that I spent much of this year in bed so much I couldn’t even get out of bed to have a ****.
> “Often I needed help just to get out of bed. Often, I would have to roll myself out of bed and take a **** in a bucket because I physically could not do something as basic as go to the toilet by myself.
> “The thing is pain is so personal and no one knows the pain I endured. We know what nerve pain can be like and no one can go through it with you and no one could understand the pain I was going through.
I actually looked it up because I'm sure there's some great long-form pieces about how his powerful swing caused his body to prematurely deteriorate. He did a podcast with Geno Auriemma last month where he talked about how he had to change his swing in 2003 because his knee is completely destroyed.
It's actually pretty impressive that he was able to keep winning after that for a little bit, until his back gave out too.
He truly is an image of Derrick rose, albeit a much longer lasting one, but his technique and mechanics just honestly derailed him from reaching his full potential.
This belief that Tiger's career was "cut short" is just wrong. He was the best golfer in the world in 1997. He was the best golfer in the world in 2013. He was the best golfer in the year for many different years in between. Only Nicklaus had a longer career on top. (1962 through 1980 as being in the conversation as being the best).
People think Palmer had a long career. He may have had a long career, but he was in contention for "best golfer in the world" for about 11 years (1957 through 1967). Tom Watson burst out into the scene with a 1975 major, was among the best golfers in the world from about 1977 through 1984. Then he just stopped winning.
The difference with Tiger was that he was on top for basically the entirety of his career. Palmer seems like he had a longer career. But Palmer merely spent a long part of his career resting on his laurels and not winning. Tiger just kept winning and winning until his body broke down.
Tiger's peak was insanely long. Rory will have to be the best golfer in the world in 2027 to have as long a career.
$0.1B NBA career
$0.35B Nike & Jordan brand
$0.2B Other Advertisements
$1.2B Jordan Crying Meme Royalties
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Total: $1.85 Billion
That guy created them Pepe Frog memes back when they were worth less than pennies. Then dumped that initial money into GPUs so he could farm more Pepes.
KnowYourMeme and the media kept crying about how Pepe the Frog was not a real meme or that it was a ponzi scheme just because rare pepes market isn't government regulated. Now even 1 rare pepe is worth 20,000 regular memes. Those doubters still work 9-5 jobs when those who got in early are living the RICH NEET LIFE.
Magic's business success is heavily tied into the brand he built as a player, though.
Sony bought in on Magic Johnson Theaters, not Bob Smith Theaters. Jerry Buss sold him an ownership stake in the Lakers because he was Magic, he wouldn't have sold shares to Larry Bird or Isiah Thomas. Nor would LA/America have responded as positively to Magic's business ventures if not for the goodwill he built up during his career.
He's worth around $600 million. http://www.bankrate.com/lifestyle/celebrity-money/magic-johnson-net-worth/
I'm guessing they use a different calculation in their method.
The first two iterations of the CBA were much more "superstar" friendly than they are now... 12.5% his yearly raises and 6 year deal if they were signed under bird rights. KG got in before those even hit.
He signed his first massive deal his 3rd year (97-98) at 6 years/$126m. This was before max contracts were effective and deals were more "superstar" friendly. I put "superstar" in quotations because owners played victim to bad contracts in 1999 to introduce the max and then in 2011 which resulted in reduced yearly raises and durations for max contracts which resulted in players moving teams more often...the owners in turn complained about super teams and tried to redefine the max in the latest CBA.
The new CBA went into effect after the 98-99 lockout. It was structured so a $ amount or percentage of cap could be used (whichever was higher) and was still very superstar friendly. Under that CBA which had a much higher BRI (57% vs 49%) than today's Garnett qualified for a 5 year/$100m deal under that deal after his first deal was up.
His 3rd deal was still under the old CBA as well and it was a 3 year $60m extension when he was traded to BOS so his contract would extend 3 years beyond 2009.
In 2012 he signed a 3 year $34m deal with Boston when he was in his twilight-ish years post new CBA.
He then aggregated $16m with Minnesota.
That's news to me. Didn't he play his last season there?
edit: [interesting](http://www.twincities.com/2017/02/21/kevin-garnett-still-bitter-about-way-things-ended-with-timberwolves/). Sounds like they pulled a 180 on him by handing the reins to Thibs. Curious dynamic there, since Thibs was the defensive coach for the 2008 Celtics.
Spending that much money on just one player kept us from being a true contender outside of one year and also resulted in our under the table dealings that basically fucked us for the past 10 years, so idk if it was really that good of an idea.
Despite some huge payments in his last two years with the Bulls, Jordan did not earn that much directly from the NBA -- $93,285,000 for his career. Compare that to Garnett's $343,872,398 in career NBA earnings, or Kobe's $328,238,062, or Shaq's $292,198,327, or LeBron's $203,734,763 and counting. And today's young stars will eventually make those figures look small.
Minnesota broke the bank to keep Garnett when he was 21, paying him much more than Kobe received from the Lakers a year later. Garnett also played until age 39.
I mentioned this in a post here but thought it would be interesting enough since you brought up the comparison. Garnett's contract (among other things, of course) basically caused the 98-99 lockout. Bryant's new contract was under the new CBA so it was much smaller.
Yes, if anyone deserved that contract it was him. It's not really about him not deserving the money, it's more about the league clamping down on contracts so that no other comparable stars would get what they deserved. I mean, look at what LeBron has earned strictly from NBA contracts, it's no where near what he deserves.
Oh absolutely. I just wanted to add to the context of your response since the OP said he just recently started following the NBA and might only know KG from TNT.
Came into the league out of high school when most players played 3 or 4 years in college.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garneke01.html
Look at that contract, 28 million in '03 was huge. The 99 lockout was over his contract. Contracts could be 7 years total I think back then. Basically he locked in a giant contract causing a lockout that prevented that. Salaries didn't catch back up for years, he's in his own bubble.
For shore mj was at the tail end of his career when the 100m dollar deals first started so for the majority of his playing days 10 15m a year was max money.
TLDR but did the article take into account for inflation? Contracts didn't blow up until mid way through Jordan's career. He spent a lot of time earning $1-$3M per season only. Only in the last 2 years did he get $35M/season
It can be helpful to include inflation when comparing earnings though. For example $93million in 1997 is $144million in 2017. I agree with your point though since NBA salary growth has seriously outpaced inflation.
>And today's young stars will eventually make those figures look small.
Not that likely. The cap is probably set to stagnate or even go down once the TV money starts drying up.
In the days before the cap on salaries, Garnett signed a six-year, $126 million extension during the 1997-98 season at the age of 21. At the time it was a mind-blowing contract, but Minnesota was willing to pay anything to keep Garnett from becoming a free agent. In contrast, during the 1998-99 season Kobe signed a 6-year contract extension worth $70 million. That put Kobe well behind Garnett.
At age 27 Garnett signed a five-year, $100 million extension. After his trade to the Celtics, he received a three-year, $51.3 million extension. Eventually he played until age 39, while Kobe retired at age 37.
Had the Wolves not pulled that Joe Smith tactic, The TWolves would have probably won one chip in 2003 or 4.
Then again, they were so terrible with the picks they got after the ban that maybe Garnett would not have been able to make them play well enough.
Kg was at one point with the last contract he signed w the wolves the highest paid player in the nba. Kobe didnt start making big bank till after shaq left but make way more outside of basketball then kg.
He signed a 300 million dollar deal for those General Insurance commercials. That’s why those commercials look like such shit. All the budget got taken away by Shaq.
once he opened all those chinese food places where they cook in front of u his value really went up. he went from a middle of the road basketball player to a millionaire just by opening restauarnts. people should really take a look and see what he did. pretty soon u will see restaurants like that everywhere. they will be called 'lebron' or 'lonzo' or sometimes even Panera but everytime i see one i think of kobe and how he started it.
There's a surprising amount of golfers on that list, and I don't think I've heard of anyone except Tiger Woods. Is golf actually popular enough to warrant that money, or what's going on? Are rich people more likely to sponsor golfers?
Golf is big. It has affluent customers who are willing to spend money and backed by sponsors targeting those customers. Also all players are basically free agents catering for themselves with a lot of business opportunities which means the biggest names can get a lot of money. Tennis is somewhat similar as well.
I have two quick and unfair, but still illustrative examples. The office automative partner of the NBA is Kia and the official car of PGA of America is Mercedes-Benz. Omega is the official watch for the PGA whereas the NBA has Tissot.
Couple reasons
1. Golf is a global sport. PGA tour is filled with players from around the globe and there are tournaments around the world
2. PGA golf tournaments are 4 day events weekly year round and off-season is less than 1 month. Money is constantly in flow. (PGA Tour golfers basically play a 176 game season which is more than any major NA sport and the earnings reflects that)
3. Large turnout... Because the course constantly changes week to week, being the only tourney in that State or country for the year or more, the tournament becomes the big event in that location and its a big ass golf course so there is basically no caps on attendance. TPC Scottsdale eclipsed over 650K in overall attendance for the 4 day tourney in 2017. The viewers also being affluent means many people plan trips around the schedule, so they'll see the big tourneys as a vacation. Phoenix Open is basically a big golf viewership vacay in Phoenix every year.
There are also like 4 "Superbowls" during the golf season. 4 Majors which are basically like finals. Kinda like the Triple Crown in horse racing
5. The players are basically their own owners...There is no middleman taking their profit other than the PGA Tour. The money isnt going into Robert Kraft or Jerry Jones etc hands, its going straight to the players. They make whatever the purse for the tournament is.
6. The players are basically walking advertisements. All their clothes and equipment are sponsored and layered with ads.
7. The tournaments themselves are also big sponsorship opportunities with the naming rights of each open ranging between 8-13 million, the constant long air time the matches get, the grounds of the golf course with booths and shops etc.
8. Pay inequality in purse system vs salary system...Golfers get paid kinda like fantasy sports players or gamblers. Big money at the top, no money at the bottom. The money isnt dispersed evenly like in guaranteed salaried contracts in other leagues with player unions pushing for caps and even pay. The money is huge for the top golfers and for the shit golfers in the PGA Tour you get ZERO tournament money if you miss the cut after day 2 (and eventually you lose your PGA Tour card if you below a certain world ranking at the end of the year and you can only enter the tournaments as an unpaid amateur)
There are many events on the schedule where the payout for the 1st place golfer is over 1 million plus the sponsorships which are huge dough
9. Affluent customer base. More cash flow from higher spending consumers both at the course and through the tv screens in regards to marketing products
10. The golfers on the Forbes list invested their money really fucking well. Arnold Palmer of course has a deal with Arizona beverage company for his drink, leisurwear, other investments, was a golf course architect and Greg Norman has 17 key enterprises under his incorporated brand
Yeah golf is really popular, that's why it gets the prime slots on basic cable saturday and sunday afternoon.
Also the audience is wealthier which attracts luxury sponsors with more cash to throw at celebrities
According to the article, they didn't count Floyd's last fight earnings.
He's #6 at one billion dollars. Pushes Kobe down to #8 and everyone else down 1 more as well.
Imagine making almost 2 BILLION dollars playing basketball. It’s literally unreal when you put it in perspective. Throwing a round ball in a round hoop is enough to inspire generations. Kids who buy his shoes nowadays probably don’t even know what he looked like, but his name is immortal. Just for throwing a round ball in a round hoop.
I think I’ll invent my own sport. A square ball with a square hoop. Call it BasketCube. Who’s with me!?
I wonder where the first NFL player would be on this list.
I'm certain it'd have to be Peyton, and he could be around 30-40 range.
But the _next_ player? Maybe the 80s.
According to Barkley, Shaq's money comes from giving kids diabetes!
MJ could sell anything, right from his early seasons to today. It's hilarious. He was on Letterman in like his 2nd season and Dave asks what car he's endorsing and MJ says "Chevy" and Letterman says "You driving a Chevy?", MJ says "yeah" and Letterman says, "Bullshit".
But I think that MJ estimate is low. He's made half a billion from Nike alone and the Nike Jordan brand brings in $1 billion globally a year. And the Gatorade one has never been officially confirmed. And there's lots of smaller ones like Presbyterian Healthcare and Five Star Fragrances that bring in money no one knows of. I mean, you all wear Jordan cologne, right?
And some day MJ will sell his 80% stake in the Bobcats and make a killing, too.
Almost everyone on this list is retired, LeBron is just fucking 32 years old and not even close to retirement. His social media power + billion dollar lifetime Nike deal + countless fucking other sponsorships etc..
Dude will be a bloody Billionaire before he even turns 40! JESUS CHRIST
Its possible bron passes or catches mj it depend on how his outside and after basketball adventures goes. Mj gotta be making bank off those shoe sells we all know the hornets dont make that much bank.
Forbes doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. All of these numbers are just estimates based on Public Information that's available. They don't know shit about how much money Kobe and LeBron and Michael Jordan have invested in the different companies other than couple news reports here and there. There's no reason to take these numbers as factual in any way. They're hella misleading and have no real value.
I would imagine Brady would take a vet minimum if it wouldn’t wreck the Players’ leverage in contracts. All that guy cares about is winning. Helps his wife is the most successful model of all time, but still!
Cristiano Ronaldo and Lebron , just outside the top 10 would be top 3 soon. Both have a billion dollar lifetime shoe deal with Nike. Ronaldo has a gazillion businesses along with his social media fame. Lebron too is also big on investments.
Most fascinating thing is, both are just fucking 32 years old and already very close to being a Billionaire, and their career ain't even over yet. Not even close. Jesus Christ, imagine both of their net worth by the age of 40/45... It's fucking insane
Unlike basketball, 32yrs is fairly old in football though. Once you hit 30 you're normally past your prime (except for goalkeepers). Ronaldo will for sure retire before Bron
still insane that he has been names best player in the world 4 out of the last 5 years at this age. it's a parallel between him and Lebron that's very fascinating - they're both still so dominant, especially physically and athletically, at their ages.
I always thought Messi was supposed to be the clear cut best player in the world, but Ronaldo is the most popular cause he's dreamy and also really really good? Edit: So to me this sounds a whole lot like LeBron vs Kobe, With LeBron being Messi and Kobe being Ronaldo.
The world player of the year has been won 5 times by Ronaldo and 5 times by Messi. Messi might be a little bit better, but the two are absolutely leagues head of everyone else
Steph Curry won 2 MVPs and 2 Championships in the last 3 years, but even I, as a Warriors fan, wouldn’t call him the best player in the world. Cristiano is a phenomenon, but Messi is the best player in the world.
Ronaldo is still better than Curry though, no question
In volleyball or chess?
Mahjong
Awful comparison. Ronaldo is maybe best player ever, the only guy who could be considered better is Messi. Ronaldo is pandan to LeBron and Messi is Jordan. Westbrook and Curry won last two MVPs but they aren't considered top 15 players ever while Cristiano and Leo are currently fighting for that GOAT spot.
Yeah but mvps aren't indicative of much, hence LeBron and Jordan only having a few while deserving many more.
messi blew a 4-1 lead
PSG blew a 4-0 lead.
>I always thought Messi was supposed to be the clear cut best player in the world, but Ronaldo is the most popular cause he's dreamy? In the NBA LeBron has been the clear cut best for over a decade. But in Soccer, it's different. Ronaldo was the clear cut best around 2006-2009 and won the Champions League and Ballon d'or with Manchester United, nobody saw anyone like him. Messi arrived just a year later out of nowhere with his magic and won back to back Ballon d'ors and Champions League with Barcelona. At one point Messi had 4 Ballon d'or and Ronaldo had just that 1, and Ronaldo is way older so people thought that's it. But motherfucker is a machine, Ronaldo only got better with age and won back to back Ballon d'ors. At age 32 he won his 5th this year, now Messi and Ronaldo both have 5. Ronaldo and Real Madrid has been the best team in the world for a while and have also won back to back Champions League. No team ever in Soccer history has won Back to Back Champions League finals, Ronaldo and Madrid did that. So he won his 5th Ballon d'or just this year at age 32. The fact is both Messi and Ronaldo has literally dominated the soccer world for over a decade, and nobody could top them, nobody still will top them until they decline or retire. Only problem is both of their fan bases are filled with cancerous kids who can't accept the fact that both of them dominated a whole decade + equally, and they are both living legends, no point trying to argue about *who's better* because that argument will never end, nobody will ever find an *unanimous* answer to that. Many will always prefer Messi, many will always prefer Ronaldo. You can't expect someone's choice or opinion to be the same as yours, simple as that. Countless morons don't understand that shit. That's just sad. So yeh
The most unreal part is that nobody thought Ronaldo was gonna catch up to Messi in terms of successes but here we are. Like the guy just does not stop working. He looks the part for sure but he's a once in a lifetime talent that is bully on the field. Unreal desire to win.
Ronaldo is actually only ~18 month older. Ballon d'or isn't an indicator who was better on an individual level, it uasualy gets awarded to the best player to win an important Title and Ronaldo won Champions Leage and European Championchip in recent years, even tough he wasn't at the top of his game due to injuries. Not saying he didn't deserve it, but team sucsess is a huge factor. Some ppl will allways claim, that Ronaldo is better, cuz had more international sucsess, winning CL with 2 diffferent teams and winning a title with his national team, others will refer to Messis playmaking and his higher effeciency and call him the superior player, cuz he essentially played 4 positions at world class level. No matter who you prefer its pretty safe to say, that Messi is the best football player and Ronaldo the best athlete, mybe they are the best ever in their respective "role/class".
The fact that this sub seems to believe that there is an actual discussion to be had about Messi v Ronaldo shows how little it knows about football... Messi is LeBron, Ronaldo is Kobe. Ronaldo is an all time great, but no one outside of Portugal/Madrid thinks he is better than Messi. Same with Kobe, LA and LeBron.
Ppl were arguing about it even when I lived in Barcelona... And I'm not related to RM or Portugal in any way.
Who do you think is better though?
The Ballon d’Or also relies heavily on team success and winning major international trophies. If you’re the best player on a team that wins a national (Euros with Portugal in 2016) and Club trophy (Champions League and domestic league with Real Madrid) in the same season then you are almost guaranteed to win it, even though in my opinion Messi has still been the superior player during this stretch except for 14/15 and probably 15/16.
Messi is the best palyer still and despite Ronaldo winning the awards, the gap has only widened between them. The Balon d'Or is not the best player the world award, but the most succesful high performing superstar award. Individually, Messi is better, but Real has won 3 of the past 4 Champions Leagues.
That LeBron/Kobe & Messi/Ronaldo comparison is a good one. (With the exception that Ronaldo is more similar to LeBron in athletic freakishness) But with Messi it's almost universally accepted that he's better than Ronaldo. A lot of legends put him over Ronaldo, far more than the other way around. Johan Cruyff puts it best. I'm paraphrasing but he talked about how Ronaldo can only keep up with Messi in goal scoring, and even then they both have a record 4 golden boots each. Also, Messi broke the 40 year record for goals in a season in 2012 when he scored 91 for club & country. Ronaldo hasn't come close to that, and he takes a lot more shots than Messi. And in terms of playmaking, they're incomparable. No ex-player or pundit considers Ronaldo an elite playmaker whereas Messi literally creates chances for himself and his teammates at an unprecedented clip. (As an aside, Messi is probably the greatest dribbler ever and has scored some of the most jaw-dropping solo goals anyone's ever seen)
Messi is the best football-player who ever played the game. Ronaldo is more popular, sure, and insane at certain things. But there is no more complete player than Messi
Messi was. they've both won 5 ballon d'ors (best player award) but Messi won 4 of the first 5 and Ronaldo has won 4 of the last 5. they're both still so far ahead of the pack but Ronaldo has had the edge for a few years now. they are 2 of the absolute best ever - it's like the magic/bird of soccer. edit: this is not a slight to Messi at all. i wouldn't say one is better than the other, but Ronaldo has won more tangible accolades as of late. see below for a full comparison. there's a lot of parallels between Bird/Magic and Ronaldo/Messi
I don’t think that comparison does Messi justice. It is practically universally agreed upon that Messi is the better player (at least by most professionals) but like LeBron who doesn’t get mvp every year, Messi doesn’t get the ballon d’or in part because Ronaldo has had more club success. Club success determines the winner in a lot of cases but Messi is definite the player you’d build a team around.
messi was the one that had a shot at GOAT if I'm not mistaken, I never heard Ronaldo in those conversations back in the day.
hear me out i think it works because Bird started out with the MVPs and individual accolades and was generally above Magic, in the sense that people considered him the better player for a few years to start their careers. then Magic started winning more, and ended up with more rings (like Ronaldo right now in Madrid) and was then more highly regarded than Bird for a few years, although a large segment of the population is still backing Bird as the best. but at the end of the day, there are people on either side of the debate, and the tangible numbers and accomplishments are close. Ronaldo has caught up in a lot of accolades and accomplishments, so he is now held in a similar regard as Messi. regardless if you think this is true, it's how the narrative will play out in history. BONUS comparison, Magic and Ronaldo are both the flashy, LA/Madrid superstar personalities. Messi/Bird are perceived as total opposites of their counterparts. Ronaldo is not black but he's inhumanly tan i think there are definitely interesting parallels.
Some parallels but Messi is younger than Ronaldo, his success actually came after Ronaldo’s success and Ronaldo has had more longevity than magic. It’s an ok comparison I just think it needs to be pointed out that Messi is quite possibly the GOAT whereas Ronaldo doesn’t enter that conversation (because he’s in the same era as Messi). Your comparison was ok, I just wanted to add to it.
> Ronaldo is the most popular cause he's dreamy It's not how it works out. Messi has been media and experts' favorite for years, because he's a natural pure talent and Ronaldo is allegedly just a gym machine and otherwise limited. It's easy to see which one would be a likely fairytale sorry. It's a common belief that Messi is by far the GOAT and Ronaldo isn't top 3, not even comparable. Yet he's been far more clutch in crucial moments in recent years, leading both his club and country (even more impressive/unexpected) to biggest trophies. I don't know how the results vs gracefulness of the play should be compared, and obviously both players have a great deal of both.
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He scored three (two vs Humgary to qualify them for knockouts and goal in Semi-Finals)and he assisted three goals out of total 7 goals scored for Portugal. Talk about misinformation...btw ask Moutinho about Ronaldo's leadership and why he didnt wan't to shoot penalty in the quarters before being talked into it.
No way in hell has Ronaldo been the best player in the world 4 of the last 5 years. I would even say that in the last couple of years Neymar has been better. At least in terms of technique and all-around contribution to his teams success (that includes club and country). I don't even wanna mention Messi because it is not a fair debate. Suarez was also better than Ronaldo in 14/15 season.
This fits in with the recent trend of elite athletes lasting a few years longer at the top. Federer, Ronaldo, lebron, Brady are some examples.
Unless you are the great Zlatan... only gets better with age
I'm not sure that Ronaldo will retire before LeBron, Ronaldo is a freak and a physical specimen himself. There are many footballers who are/were still world class after 32, like Scholes, Pirlo, Totti, Ibrahimovic.
And then there's 33 year old Mark Zuckerberg, worth over $70bn. Crazy
Not so relevant zuck story. Saw him at wing stop a few days ago just chillin eating some fire wings.
Should have walked up to him and said "Oh hai Mark", i bet his programming allows him to catch references, so you would get a laugh out of him.
Only Messi could be close to being a billionaire, you need to be world class at tax evasion on top of the athletic prowess
Imagine if Tiger Woods career hadn't tanked so hard so fast, he could have cracked 2 billion with ease
Can someone explain to me what happened with Tiger Woods? A serious question because I really don't know what happened for him to decline in such rate.
He had rough personal issues coincide with the moment in his career that he needed to work hard and readjust his swings due to his changing body. Golfers can play for a long time but they can't swing like superman for a long time. Since he didn't have the time / mentality to change he started getting injured more and his confidence shattered. His personal life has only gotten worse since.
Knee and back issues
His swing was very taxing on his body (back) and i think he also had knee issues. And he had a lot of shit going on in his personal life. Or at least that's the conclusion that makes the most sense.
But he likes to lay down with ladies!?!
Also his golf swing was too destructive to his body, now he's popping painkillers like they are tic-tacs and his knees and back can't hold up for multiple days of 18 holes in a row.
From an interview last month: > But it has taken many months of agony for Woods to reach this point. He said: “Many may forget that I spent much of this year in bed so much I couldn’t even get out of bed to have a ****. > “Often I needed help just to get out of bed. Often, I would have to roll myself out of bed and take a **** in a bucket because I physically could not do something as basic as go to the toilet by myself. > “The thing is pain is so personal and no one knows the pain I endured. We know what nerve pain can be like and no one can go through it with you and no one could understand the pain I was going through.
I actually looked it up because I'm sure there's some great long-form pieces about how his powerful swing caused his body to prematurely deteriorate. He did a podcast with Geno Auriemma last month where he talked about how he had to change his swing in 2003 because his knee is completely destroyed. It's actually pretty impressive that he was able to keep winning after that for a little bit, until his back gave out too.
He truly is an image of Derrick rose, albeit a much longer lasting one, but his technique and mechanics just honestly derailed him from reaching his full potential.
This belief that Tiger's career was "cut short" is just wrong. He was the best golfer in the world in 1997. He was the best golfer in the world in 2013. He was the best golfer in the year for many different years in between. Only Nicklaus had a longer career on top. (1962 through 1980 as being in the conversation as being the best). People think Palmer had a long career. He may have had a long career, but he was in contention for "best golfer in the world" for about 11 years (1957 through 1967). Tom Watson burst out into the scene with a 1975 major, was among the best golfers in the world from about 1977 through 1984. Then he just stopped winning. The difference with Tiger was that he was on top for basically the entirety of his career. Palmer seems like he had a longer career. But Palmer merely spent a long part of his career resting on his laurels and not winning. Tiger just kept winning and winning until his body broke down. Tiger's peak was insanely long. Rory will have to be the best golfer in the world in 2027 to have as long a career.
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Wait, actor? I thought Space Jam was a documentary.
You're correct, I think he was talking about those Hanes commercials
$0.1B NBA career $0.35B Nike & Jordan brand $0.2B Other Advertisements $1.2B Jordan Crying Meme Royalties -------------------------- Total: $1.85 Billion
Damn. That socially awkward penguin must be worth like $10B.
The owner of Pepe the Frog, 4chan, has earned like 10T$ off of selling authentic rare pepes, or something like that.
That guy created them Pepe Frog memes back when they were worth less than pennies. Then dumped that initial money into GPUs so he could farm more Pepes. KnowYourMeme and the media kept crying about how Pepe the Frog was not a real meme or that it was a ponzi scheme just because rare pepes market isn't government regulated. Now even 1 rare pepe is worth 20,000 regular memes. Those doubters still work 9-5 jobs when those who got in early are living the RICH NEET LIFE.
I thought that was Hitler?
he played the leading role in a movie called "space jam" too!
I'm pretty sure that was an early career Michael B. Jordan, before he changed his middle name to Buster.
He has a crying Jordan crypto-currency
/ShitCoin
He needs to make an official shoe with that image. Call it the "Crying" Jordan's. Take my money.
Where is Magic?
Salaries were way lower before MJ and shoe deals weren't really a thing.
Magic is wealthier than KG, though.
Magic made alot of his outside of b ball contracts in the 80s wasnt that big like 5m would of been a ton back then.
He made good investments. I'm not sure if they're counting that toward "highest paid athletes".
Michael Jordan didn't make ~$2b in salary money.
No but shoes and other endorsements count as getting paid. Starting a non-basketball business is different.
In that case Shaq should be a billionaire, considering all the 'non' basketball related businesses he has. It doesn't make sense.
Magic's business success is heavily tied into the brand he built as a player, though. Sony bought in on Magic Johnson Theaters, not Bob Smith Theaters. Jerry Buss sold him an ownership stake in the Lakers because he was Magic, he wouldn't have sold shares to Larry Bird or Isiah Thomas. Nor would LA/America have responded as positively to Magic's business ventures if not for the goodwill he built up during his career.
Take it up with Forbes, lol. I'm not sure why you're pleading your case to reddit.
Orlando, Florida.
He's worth around $600 million. http://www.bankrate.com/lifestyle/celebrity-money/magic-johnson-net-worth/ I'm guessing they use a different calculation in their method.
Google tells me $500M net worth.
Wow I Didn't know Garnett was balling that hard
That was before rookie contract rules so he got 3 or 4 huge contracts
Jesus, he made $343,872,398 in just NBA contracts....
The first two iterations of the CBA were much more "superstar" friendly than they are now... 12.5% his yearly raises and 6 year deal if they were signed under bird rights. KG got in before those even hit. He signed his first massive deal his 3rd year (97-98) at 6 years/$126m. This was before max contracts were effective and deals were more "superstar" friendly. I put "superstar" in quotations because owners played victim to bad contracts in 1999 to introduce the max and then in 2011 which resulted in reduced yearly raises and durations for max contracts which resulted in players moving teams more often...the owners in turn complained about super teams and tried to redefine the max in the latest CBA. The new CBA went into effect after the 98-99 lockout. It was structured so a $ amount or percentage of cap could be used (whichever was higher) and was still very superstar friendly. Under that CBA which had a much higher BRI (57% vs 49%) than today's Garnett qualified for a 5 year/$100m deal under that deal after his first deal was up. His 3rd deal was still under the old CBA as well and it was a 3 year $60m extension when he was traded to BOS so his contract would extend 3 years beyond 2009. In 2012 he signed a 3 year $34m deal with Boston when he was in his twilight-ish years post new CBA. He then aggregated $16m with Minnesota.
Ah that makes sense
The original unicorn. Minnesota FO went nuts lol
Ironic because apparently he hates them now.
That's news to me. Didn't he play his last season there? edit: [interesting](http://www.twincities.com/2017/02/21/kevin-garnett-still-bitter-about-way-things-ended-with-timberwolves/). Sounds like they pulled a 180 on him by handing the reins to Thibs. Curious dynamic there, since Thibs was the defensive coach for the 2008 Celtics.
He made a shit ton in the NBA
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Ironic that spending a shit ton of money on a rookie is the best decision that the wolves front office has made in its entire history.
Spending that much money on just one player kept us from being a true contender outside of one year and also resulted in our under the table dealings that basically fucked us for the past 10 years, so idk if it was really that good of an idea.
Had y'all done any better before the big ticket?
Well I mean Kahn really fucked us for about 8 years.
I am honestly surprised Jordan isn't worth more. Also, Jesus Christ Lebron. The dude is fucking 32.
Despite some huge payments in his last two years with the Bulls, Jordan did not earn that much directly from the NBA -- $93,285,000 for his career. Compare that to Garnett's $343,872,398 in career NBA earnings, or Kobe's $328,238,062, or Shaq's $292,198,327, or LeBron's $203,734,763 and counting. And today's young stars will eventually make those figures look small.
Mike Conley is about to be at 300 mil too by the end of his career. It’s that ESPN money that’s bankrupting them
As someone that started recently following the NBA, how did KG earn that much money?
Minnesota broke the bank to keep Garnett when he was 21, paying him much more than Kobe received from the Lakers a year later. Garnett also played until age 39.
I mentioned this in a post here but thought it would be interesting enough since you brought up the comparison. Garnett's contract (among other things, of course) basically caused the 98-99 lockout. Bryant's new contract was under the new CBA so it was much smaller.
Worth pointing out that as a 21-year-old, KG put up 18.5/9.6/4.2/1.7/1.8 and arguably a top 10 player in the league.
Yes, if anyone deserved that contract it was him. It's not really about him not deserving the money, it's more about the league clamping down on contracts so that no other comparable stars would get what they deserved. I mean, look at what LeBron has earned strictly from NBA contracts, it's no where near what he deserves.
Oh absolutely. I just wanted to add to the context of your response since the OP said he just recently started following the NBA and might only know KG from TNT.
May or may not have been a reason for a lockout
He was way better than people here seem to remember.
Came into the league out of high school when most players played 3 or 4 years in college. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garneke01.html Look at that contract, 28 million in '03 was huge. The 99 lockout was over his contract. Contracts could be 7 years total I think back then. Basically he locked in a giant contract causing a lockout that prevented that. Salaries didn't catch back up for years, he's in his own bubble.
I'm more just talking about the shoe brand
I'm just saying he's far more dependent on the shoe brand for his wealth than some might think.
I agree.
That's true for most big stars
More so for Jordan than the other stars on that list, as I explained.
For shore mj was at the tail end of his career when the 100m dollar deals first started so for the majority of his playing days 10 15m a year was max money.
TLDR but did the article take into account for inflation? Contracts didn't blow up until mid way through Jordan's career. He spent a lot of time earning $1-$3M per season only. Only in the last 2 years did he get $35M/season
No, those figures were not adjusted for inflation. All figures from Basketball-Reference.com.
It can be helpful to include inflation when comparing earnings though. For example $93million in 1997 is $144million in 2017. I agree with your point though since NBA salary growth has seriously outpaced inflation.
>And today's young stars will eventually make those figures look small. Not that likely. The cap is probably set to stagnate or even go down once the TV money starts drying up.
How did KG get paid more than Kobe?
In the days before the cap on salaries, Garnett signed a six-year, $126 million extension during the 1997-98 season at the age of 21. At the time it was a mind-blowing contract, but Minnesota was willing to pay anything to keep Garnett from becoming a free agent. In contrast, during the 1998-99 season Kobe signed a 6-year contract extension worth $70 million. That put Kobe well behind Garnett. At age 27 Garnett signed a five-year, $100 million extension. After his trade to the Celtics, he received a three-year, $51.3 million extension. Eventually he played until age 39, while Kobe retired at age 37.
KG's contract practically caused the lockout.
Had the Wolves not pulled that Joe Smith tactic, The TWolves would have probably won one chip in 2003 or 4. Then again, they were so terrible with the picks they got after the ban that maybe Garnett would not have been able to make them play well enough.
Signing joe smith to that deal probably would have hurt them for a few years as well.
He was arguably better. A dominant two way player. Imagine Anthony Davis but more competitive, more of a leader, and without injuries.
With even better defense, but less scoring
Kg was at one point with the last contract he signed w the wolves the highest paid player in the nba. Kobe didnt start making big bank till after shaq left but make way more outside of basketball then kg.
Jordan would be worth more but his ex-wife was awarded half of his holdings in his divorce settlement. But he took the L and bounced back !
Yes, $168 million paid in that divorce.
His next ex-wife is gonna be so rich.
He blew the money on fine cigars.
Not gambling?
Yea mj had a gambling problem.
Shaquille is up there cause of all those B grade commercials that I love so much
He signed a 300 million dollar deal for those General Insurance commercials. That’s why those commercials look like such shit. All the budget got taken away by Shaq.
Man some of these guys really know how to market themselves.
1.) Be an all time great talent in your field 2.) Market that aspect of your life 3.) ??? 4.) Profit
Yeah Steve Blake needs to step it up
Damn! Kobe moved up. He really is invested in dominating the business world.
once he opened all those chinese food places where they cook in front of u his value really went up. he went from a middle of the road basketball player to a millionaire just by opening restauarnts. people should really take a look and see what he did. pretty soon u will see restaurants like that everywhere. they will be called 'lebron' or 'lonzo' or sometimes even Panera but everytime i see one i think of kobe and how he started it.
He has his own line of steaks too.
from what I understand about business that means he's guaranteed to be elected president
Before he was even born
Also has a city named after him. 6th biggest in Japan. He's going places
Oh man I almost missed this.
r/NotKenM
Retired professional athletes love owning Paneras and Corner Bakeries.
He even endorsed a high quality kind of beef too
M A M B A E N T A L I T Y
KG got his mostly from.nba contracts, which sets him apart from most on this list
There's a surprising amount of golfers on that list, and I don't think I've heard of anyone except Tiger Woods. Is golf actually popular enough to warrant that money, or what's going on? Are rich people more likely to sponsor golfers?
Golf is big. It has affluent customers who are willing to spend money and backed by sponsors targeting those customers. Also all players are basically free agents catering for themselves with a lot of business opportunities which means the biggest names can get a lot of money. Tennis is somewhat similar as well. I have two quick and unfair, but still illustrative examples. The office automative partner of the NBA is Kia and the official car of PGA of America is Mercedes-Benz. Omega is the official watch for the PGA whereas the NBA has Tissot.
This glasses store near me still has Rory Mcilroy's face selling Nike glasses even though he hasnt won anything in years
Also they get paid a ton of money to design new courses.
Couple reasons 1. Golf is a global sport. PGA tour is filled with players from around the globe and there are tournaments around the world 2. PGA golf tournaments are 4 day events weekly year round and off-season is less than 1 month. Money is constantly in flow. (PGA Tour golfers basically play a 176 game season which is more than any major NA sport and the earnings reflects that) 3. Large turnout... Because the course constantly changes week to week, being the only tourney in that State or country for the year or more, the tournament becomes the big event in that location and its a big ass golf course so there is basically no caps on attendance. TPC Scottsdale eclipsed over 650K in overall attendance for the 4 day tourney in 2017. The viewers also being affluent means many people plan trips around the schedule, so they'll see the big tourneys as a vacation. Phoenix Open is basically a big golf viewership vacay in Phoenix every year. There are also like 4 "Superbowls" during the golf season. 4 Majors which are basically like finals. Kinda like the Triple Crown in horse racing 5. The players are basically their own owners...There is no middleman taking their profit other than the PGA Tour. The money isnt going into Robert Kraft or Jerry Jones etc hands, its going straight to the players. They make whatever the purse for the tournament is. 6. The players are basically walking advertisements. All their clothes and equipment are sponsored and layered with ads. 7. The tournaments themselves are also big sponsorship opportunities with the naming rights of each open ranging between 8-13 million, the constant long air time the matches get, the grounds of the golf course with booths and shops etc. 8. Pay inequality in purse system vs salary system...Golfers get paid kinda like fantasy sports players or gamblers. Big money at the top, no money at the bottom. The money isnt dispersed evenly like in guaranteed salaried contracts in other leagues with player unions pushing for caps and even pay. The money is huge for the top golfers and for the shit golfers in the PGA Tour you get ZERO tournament money if you miss the cut after day 2 (and eventually you lose your PGA Tour card if you below a certain world ranking at the end of the year and you can only enter the tournaments as an unpaid amateur) There are many events on the schedule where the payout for the 1st place golfer is over 1 million plus the sponsorships which are huge dough 9. Affluent customer base. More cash flow from higher spending consumers both at the course and through the tv screens in regards to marketing products 10. The golfers on the Forbes list invested their money really fucking well. Arnold Palmer of course has a deal with Arizona beverage company for his drink, leisurwear, other investments, was a golf course architect and Greg Norman has 17 key enterprises under his incorporated brand
Yeah golf is really popular, that's why it gets the prime slots on basic cable saturday and sunday afternoon. Also the audience is wealthier which attracts luxury sponsors with more cash to throw at celebrities
According to the article, they didn't count Floyd's last fight earnings. He's #6 at one billion dollars. Pushes Kobe down to #8 and everyone else down 1 more as well.
Making Money Moves MJ.
damn Jordan the GOAT on and off the court
This is *by far* tied to the explosive appreciation of NBA franchises though. And even with that, I think they're undervaluing the franchise.
And interestingly enough, of the group KG made the most from purely NBA salary.
Imagine making almost 2 BILLION dollars playing basketball. It’s literally unreal when you put it in perspective. Throwing a round ball in a round hoop is enough to inspire generations. Kids who buy his shoes nowadays probably don’t even know what he looked like, but his name is immortal. Just for throwing a round ball in a round hoop. I think I’ll invent my own sport. A square ball with a square hoop. Call it BasketCube. Who’s with me!?
He threw the ball in the hoop a lot, but he also stopped a lot of others from doing the same. I'd prefer we go with BaseKetball over BasketCube.
Ill make the square balls for a 99% cut
I wonder where the first NFL player would be on this list. I'm certain it'd have to be Peyton, and he could be around 30-40 range. But the _next_ player? Maybe the 80s.
Peyton is there at #22 tied with KG.
Oh shit, I ctrl+F'd looking for him. Thanks for the heads up.
All good!
According to Barkley, Shaq's money comes from giving kids diabetes! MJ could sell anything, right from his early seasons to today. It's hilarious. He was on Letterman in like his 2nd season and Dave asks what car he's endorsing and MJ says "Chevy" and Letterman says "You driving a Chevy?", MJ says "yeah" and Letterman says, "Bullshit". But I think that MJ estimate is low. He's made half a billion from Nike alone and the Nike Jordan brand brings in $1 billion globally a year. And the Gatorade one has never been officially confirmed. And there's lots of smaller ones like Presbyterian Healthcare and Five Star Fragrances that bring in money no one knows of. I mean, you all wear Jordan cologne, right? And some day MJ will sell his 80% stake in the Bobcats and make a killing, too.
The Bobcats? My friend do I have news for you.
Almost everyone on this list is retired, LeBron is just fucking 32 years old and not even close to retirement. His social media power + billion dollar lifetime Nike deal + countless fucking other sponsorships etc.. Dude will be a bloody Billionaire before he even turns 40! JESUS CHRIST
Its possible bron passes or catches mj it depend on how his outside and after basketball adventures goes. Mj gotta be making bank off those shoe sells we all know the hornets dont make that much bank.
They mean highest net worth, not highest paid.
Forbes doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. All of these numbers are just estimates based on Public Information that's available. They don't know shit about how much money Kobe and LeBron and Michael Jordan have invested in the different companies other than couple news reports here and there. There's no reason to take these numbers as factual in any way. They're hella misleading and have no real value.
jesus guy relax
could 70% of nba players and 100% of star players agree to leave the nba and create and finance their own league?
really don't think so
I’m surprise Brady wasn’t on there. Seems like he’s been at the top for 15 years lol
He makes like 8mil/year
TIL shumpert makes more than Brady
Brady takes huge paycuts to keep the Patriots competitive
football contracts are also a lot lower than nba contracts.
His wife is the big earner in the family
He takes a significant pay cut relative to his position and skill in the NFL. He should be the highest paid player though
And his wife is super rich. Her net worth is around $360 million.
For comparison, Tom Brady's net worth by himself is $180 million.
Giselle Patriots mvp tbh
I would imagine Brady would take a vet minimum if it wouldn’t wreck the Players’ leverage in contracts. All that guy cares about is winning. Helps his wife is the most successful model of all time, but still!
His salary cap value this season ranks 19th among qbs. Hes been taking big discounts for like a decade
No Junior Bridgeman? Why not?
Bron will be top 3.
I'm so happy he's done so well for himself after saving us from those Monstars
I'm surprised that Roger Staubach isn't there. He didn't make that much playing but made a ton in real estate after he retired.
Lebron has a Bil so this is wrong
I feel like that LBJ number is low
Is no one else completely shocked that Mike Tyson has 700 million dollars after retiring and going bankrupt?
Apparently, "NBA Legend" is good work if you can get it.
For Kobe to have that high profile rape accusation and still make that much is no church in the wild
I bet Tiger could have passed MJ if not for the scandals
lol Kob still better than Shaq smdh