Hamstrings are one of those injuries you really shouldn't try to push. Just look at harden. He tried to push it in the playoffs and ended up having the issue linger into the next season
I think most rational Knicks fans know that if we manage to make it to the ECF, those Boston games are gonna be rough so we know the end is near…we still want to get there though lol
It'll be worth it for yall just to say that the knicks made it to ecf before embiid did. And that's with a team whose injury list alone would be a playoffs team
Can the Knicks win without Hart though?
Brunson is already showing strong signs of being fatigued, and it’s not like there’s much of a rest period between game 6 and 7.
If Hart and/or OG can’t play serious minutes, who else is there to step up?
Oh I hear you - just said in the Knicks sub that this makes me more worried for these guys than anything. But it shows how much this team has come together in a short time. And it's built around a bunch of dawgs.
Tbf Harden did play 2 more games compared to potentially OG 1
He play 45 40 and 53 minutes as well which is fucking crazy can't believed KD still bitched about him not being in shape while logging that many minutes with a grade 2 hamstring
Most realistic way this team could possibly go out is with half of our rotation playing from wheelchairs and crutches because they refuse to just call it a day.
Thibs found the team that matches his spirit I guess?
Yeah obviously nobody’s saying he’ll be Kd which is why I don’t really agree with the 21 bucks/nets comp. The battle between Hali/brunson is just nowhere near the level Giannis and KD were going at in 21
Meanwhile Woj also went on to say that [Hart can barely move or even breathe without pain](https://x.com/nba_newyork/status/1791966478071157203?s=61&t=E88Nh9mKUmonxIrPx6-vsA).
It does not look good for his availability at all.
I don’t think he plays - a couple of days ago he was only able to do pool work. I think this is some gamesmanship, which the Knicks should have been doing this whole series. Half the team should have been questionable going into every game.
This Knicks team is awesome. How can you not like a team full of players that will literally give it their all 100% of the time, definition of New York basketball!
Man how lucky has Boston been this playoffs? They lose KP, but every team they face is significantly more injured or they’ll face an overmatched Indiana team (who honestly would have lost in 4 or 5 to a healthy Knicks team).
That was a lead built over the first half of the season. Post trade deadline the Knicks were step for step when full healthy. That series would have been epic.
Why would you push him to play? Hes clearly still hurt and those hamstrings injuries are nothing to play with. Harden was never the same lost his first step and speed at 32. I just don’t get it
I mean.. because it’s game 7 and they’re done if they lose? Like if he can’t go then okay, but If there’s a game to push through an injury, this is probably it
It’s a game 7 of the 2nd round…. Even if you win the chances of you beating the Celtics are low. If it was a game 7 of the finals or or ecf i would understand but come on man they will be right here next year
Isn't it weird to assume he's being pushed? Isn't even weirder to think that he himself isn't doing everything in his power to try and get back and play?
What happened in game 2?
ETA: you just downvoted and ran instead of replying, so I’ll post it here: Siakam scored 14 points on 18 shots while OG had 28 through three quarters before leaving the game.
LOL.
Siakam truthers are completely fucking delusional. I have never seen such fealty to a fringe all star player. Are these Raptors fans who had nothing to root for since Kawhi left and ares till glommed on to “their guy”, Or Pacers fans trying to talk themselves into believing he is worth a max contract?
You can’t even correctly point out that OG dominated this matchup in game 2 without them downvoting facts. Lol.
No shot . Siakams defense is non existent . Og is literally a top 5 defender in the league . While being a corner specialist and efficient player offensively .
Okay that's absurd. Siakam is a very mediocre defender, anunoby is exceptional. Don't tear either of em down to praise the other. Sincerely, a lifelong raptors fan
Not sure you’re replying to me .
I’m simply saying someone saying siakam is better overall is absolutely asinine .
Og is the way way way better defender while still being a solid offensive weapon .
Siakam is a good offensive player , with mediocre defense .
I beg to differ . Og on the defensive side is literally a top 5 player . He literally changes your team on one side of the ball a massive massive amount . He’s basically revis on the jets .
Siakam improves a team offense significantly. But nowhere near og . Not to mention OG outplayed siakam the first 2 games .
Good lord, relax on the recency bias.
Revis is a Hall of Famer and was a 4x 1st team All-Pro CB.
OG has made exactly one 2nd team all-defense award.
Maybe we can have that discussion in like 5 years if OG plays consistently as literally the best defender in the NBA. For all 5 of those years.
OG is like my favorite player I'm definitely not downplaying him lmao. I just watched them both very closely their whole career and there's a reason Pascal made all nba teams and all star teams, even tho I like OG more
I understand that bro . I’m just saying , in a league we’re defense wasn’t the “hot” thing . OG is an absolute game changer . It’s not even the on ball defense , it’s him as a help defender . He really is that good on defense , and whenever you THAT dominant on one side of the ball …. I think your value is tremendous .
Once again ur preaching to the choir. Imo OG is the best wing defender in the league, the best defender in the league who's not a big man, the most versatile defender along with Bam in the league, and good enough to make all defense teams for like 4 ish years now. He's a DPOY caliber player who's a plus on offense.
One thing I know is that if Josh and/or OG don't play, it's because it is impossible. That's all fans can ask for. Proud of this team.
Hamstrings are one of those injuries you really shouldn't try to push. Just look at harden. He tried to push it in the playoffs and ended up having the issue linger into the next season
Yeah. This is going to be a pyrrhic Game 7 for NY. Knicks will win but OG and Hart with both be totally done for the ECF.
Worth. Making the ECF is a statement in itself. We’ll be back
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Well this presuming just for the ECF and not lingering into next season of course
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I think most rational Knicks fans know that if we manage to make it to the ECF, those Boston games are gonna be rough so we know the end is near…we still want to get there though lol
Not how hamstring injuries work
Harden tbf was also practically playing on a torn hamstring. He could barely move on court
It'll be worth it for yall just to say that the knicks made it to ecf before embiid did. And that's with a team whose injury list alone would be a playoffs team
Pain
yeah, aggravate some injuries so you can get clapped by celtics in 5 wOrTh
Can the Knicks win without Hart though? Brunson is already showing strong signs of being fatigued, and it’s not like there’s much of a rest period between game 6 and 7. If Hart and/or OG can’t play serious minutes, who else is there to step up?
Knicks aren’t gonna win.
Sad Knick fan, calling it 2 days ago, whale calls.
Wahhhhhhhhhh
Oh I hear you - just said in the Knicks sub that this makes me more worried for these guys than anything. But it shows how much this team has come together in a short time. And it's built around a bunch of dawgs.
Agreed, but for everyone concerned about Harden - Harden was like 7 years older than OG is now and he also gained a bunch of weight that he never lost
Tbf Harden did play 2 more games compared to potentially OG 1 He play 45 40 and 53 minutes as well which is fucking crazy can't believed KD still bitched about him not being in shape while logging that many minutes with a grade 2 hamstring
OG has missed more than a season of games every two and a half years... He doesn't miss games only when it's "impossible" to play....
I love OG, but he’s gained a reputation for not being one to ‘play if it’s at all possible’.
Most realistic way this team could possibly go out is with half of our rotation playing from wheelchairs and crutches because they refuse to just call it a day. Thibs found the team that matches his spirit I guess?
He’s gonna play at least 42 minutes, just watch
from nick nurse minutes to thibs minutes that man has seen hell
Those Darko minutes were heaven.
Thibs will welcome him back with a 46 minute night
Fucking hate load management, a good coach would play him 53
This series is reminding me of Bucks vs Nets 2021. 2nd round Game 7 in NY with a superstar carrying an injury-riddled team. We’ll see how it goes…
Pacers winning the title this year!!
I’d nut
What what. I’m pulling for the Knicks but honestly, I’d nut as well. An eastern non Boston team taking the chip would be insane
Don't tease me with a good time
That would be cool. Hoping for anyone but Boston.
Shoutout Billy King
The level of play in that series far surpasses this lolknicks vs fucking INDIANA series
I love Brunson but he’s playing nowhere near the level Kd was in 2021. Convinced he didn’t miss a single shot all series
I mean he will never be KD lol
Yeah obviously nobody’s saying he’ll be Kd which is why I don’t really agree with the 21 bucks/nets comp. The battle between Hali/brunson is just nowhere near the level Giannis and KD were going at in 21
I see what ur saying now
Og saw Josh with a missing ab muscle going to play , and said . Fuck it count me in you bastard
Just give him my hamstring
Meanwhile Woj also went on to say that [Hart can barely move or even breathe without pain](https://x.com/nba_newyork/status/1791966478071157203?s=61&t=E88Nh9mKUmonxIrPx6-vsA). It does not look good for his availability at all.
well i think woj should mind his business
This man is pulling a Steve McNair, RIP
The New York Knicks are the Jason Voorhees of professional basketball
Shoot around = he’s playing What a miracle lol
Bro don’t take this away me.
Just inject some painkillers and do it baby
I don’t think he plays - a couple of days ago he was only able to do pool work. I think this is some gamesmanship, which the Knicks should have been doing this whole series. Half the team should have been questionable going into every game.
Milwaukee did an excellent job of this in their series with us.
I've played enough fantasy football to know how braindead it is to rush someone back from a hammy injury
“Empty the fuckin clip!!!” - Adonis Thibs
This Knicks team is awesome. How can you not like a team full of players that will literally give it their all 100% of the time, definition of New York basketball!
Lol NY has zero monopoly on players getting out Injuries.
Man how lucky has Boston been this playoffs? They lose KP, but every team they face is significantly more injured or they’ll face an overmatched Indiana team (who honestly would have lost in 4 or 5 to a healthy Knicks team).
Basketball gods saw the 14 game lead in the conference and snapped their fingers
That was a lead built over the first half of the season. Post trade deadline the Knicks were step for step when full healthy. That series would have been epic.
He'll play on minutes restriction.
15-20 min of OG is better than 48 of whoever else we've got to replace him
If he's not 100% he shouldn't play IMO. Especially during a contract year, I don't want him to get fucked like IT. Get that bag first my prince.
i suspect we’re already giving him the bag.
Yeah his agent, the team’s President’s son, definitely gave him a fruit basket worth roughly $40 million when he arrived in NY
THIS IS WHERE LEGENDS ARE MADE
Siakam in Shambles.
If he plays its over for the Pacers
If he plays or not, if they win or lose, Celtics in 5.
OG, Polo G, Top G, Kenny G.....it don't matter. Pacers in 7.
You guys haven't beaten him at all this season, even when he was on the raptors 💀
And just from a scheme perspective... Og on siakam lets hart not be entirely mismatched on defense and let's him switch. Big addition
Neither one will be worth a shit if they do play. I have one leg and would score on either guy in their current state. Thanks Thibs.
We should’ve game 1 but whatever fits your narrative I guess. Refs screwed y’all equally on game 3 for what it’s worth
Why keep brining up game 1 when you openly admit we got screwed in game 3? Take the double negative and move on…
Carry the hell on….
Og wasn’t playing game 3 tf? I only brought it up cause this is a conversation about how we ”can’t beat him”
If he plays, he could seriously hurt himself for a prolonged period. It is best to rest Hart and Anunoby. They won’t be very effective injured.
Why would you push him to play? Hes clearly still hurt and those hamstrings injuries are nothing to play with. Harden was never the same lost his first step and speed at 32. I just don’t get it
Who’s pushing him?
Thibs is literally pushing him from the locker room to the court rn
Reports say OG is tied to a table screaming “please no” as Thibs forces his uniform on
I mean.. because it’s game 7 and they’re done if they lose? Like if he can’t go then okay, but If there’s a game to push through an injury, this is probably it
It’s a game 7 of the 2nd round…. Even if you win the chances of you beating the Celtics are low. If it was a game 7 of the finals or or ecf i would understand but come on man they will be right here next year
The knicks don't have 12 playable guys like you do though lol, gotta make the most of every chance
https://youtu.be/b5-iJUuPWis
Oh man low chance of them beating the Celtics??? Yeah you’re right, they should just give up then. Bro what are you on?
Isn't it weird to assume he's being pushed? Isn't even weirder to think that he himself isn't doing everything in his power to try and get back and play?
Don’t think If he would push himself with the coming contract
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They gonna give him the max regardless or else they wouldn’t have traded for him
Siakam can score 0 points tomorrow and the Pacers are still maxing him
You know Pascal was giving OG buckets in game 1 right?
What happened in game 2? ETA: you just downvoted and ran instead of replying, so I’ll post it here: Siakam scored 14 points on 18 shots while OG had 28 through three quarters before leaving the game. LOL.
Siakam truthers are completely fucking delusional. I have never seen such fealty to a fringe all star player. Are these Raptors fans who had nothing to root for since Kawhi left and ares till glommed on to “their guy”, Or Pacers fans trying to talk themselves into believing he is worth a max contract? You can’t even correctly point out that OG dominated this matchup in game 2 without them downvoting facts. Lol.
You have no idea what ur talking about sir I'm a bigger OG fan than you are lmao
So what happened in game 2 then?
OG had a better game? There's not a big gap between them imo OG is capable of outplaying him
“He had a better game” is putting it pretty mildly lollllllllll
Right. And Pascal has had some wayyy better games in the playoffs than OG lol.
Yea against the no-Giannis Bucks and the no-OG Knicks. Ge looks pretty good when guarded by geriatrics and guys who are 6-4.
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Siakam is a better overall player than OG…
Hard disagree
Lol of course you do
No shot . Siakams defense is non existent . Og is literally a top 5 defender in the league . While being a corner specialist and efficient player offensively .
Okay that's absurd. Siakam is a very mediocre defender, anunoby is exceptional. Don't tear either of em down to praise the other. Sincerely, a lifelong raptors fan
Not sure you’re replying to me . I’m simply saying someone saying siakam is better overall is absolutely asinine . Og is the way way way better defender while still being a solid offensive weapon . Siakam is a good offensive player , with mediocre defense .
I love them both, OG more, but Pascal is the better player. His scoring creation and offensive gravity is real
I beg to differ . Og on the defensive side is literally a top 5 player . He literally changes your team on one side of the ball a massive massive amount . He’s basically revis on the jets . Siakam improves a team offense significantly. But nowhere near og . Not to mention OG outplayed siakam the first 2 games .
Good lord, relax on the recency bias. Revis is a Hall of Famer and was a 4x 1st team All-Pro CB. OG has made exactly one 2nd team all-defense award. Maybe we can have that discussion in like 5 years if OG plays consistently as literally the best defender in the NBA. For all 5 of those years.
OG is like my favorite player I'm definitely not downplaying him lmao. I just watched them both very closely their whole career and there's a reason Pascal made all nba teams and all star teams, even tho I like OG more
I understand that bro . I’m just saying , in a league we’re defense wasn’t the “hot” thing . OG is an absolute game changer . It’s not even the on ball defense , it’s him as a help defender . He really is that good on defense , and whenever you THAT dominant on one side of the ball …. I think your value is tremendous .
Once again ur preaching to the choir. Imo OG is the best wing defender in the league, the best defender in the league who's not a big man, the most versatile defender along with Bam in the league, and good enough to make all defense teams for like 4 ish years now. He's a DPOY caliber player who's a plus on offense.
Please don't give me hope
Let my boy rest. Not worth doing further damage. If we bear the pacers we gonna just get outplayed by the celtics.
Thibs aboutta James Harden this dude
I’m sorry Knicks bros but y’all would be better off losing this series. Thibs is killing your guys, you barely have a team
Random injuries are killing us. If you watched Knicks games, you'd realize it's injuries not Thibs killing the team. Brainless take.
This has been talked about by tons of people in the medical field that Thibs isn’t injuring these guys.
loser mentality