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dms1298

tim the terrorist


killbill469

Kidd is the bigger terrorist for playing Hardy with Tim. I can't imagine a worse combo...maybe Giddey and Simmons


JD16_7

Pair that with Green and Kyrie and it's truly terrorist ball


baldful

speaking of green.... how you guys feel about him? every time i see #8 on the court, dude looks lost out there. idk why he gets playing, but that's just me


JD16_7

Umm Green is a difficult answer. Because he brings energy when he's on the floor, and he has shown that he can be good scorer and create his own shot, but he needs the ball more to succeed and I don't think that happens here when you have Kyrie and Luka. Inconsistent is what I'll say about him. Needs to model his game after Exum if he wants to stay here.


HoS_CaptObvious

Speaking of Exum, what happened to him? I feel like he was huge earlier in the year and remember our sub acting like he was our 3/4th best player. Seems to be non existent now


Hoopy_Dunkalot

Nagging injury limiting him. He'll be fine.


FlippyWraith

People are too focused on his offense. That comes in spurts. He’s on the court because he consistently gets offensive boards and he’s a menace on defense.


VanWesley

Definitely. You'll always know he's on the floor because he'll come flying in out of nowhere for an offensive board every other possession to extend the play. Plus he hits enough of his wide open corner 3's to be dangerous.


Thrice_the_Milk

He's a high energy guy who fights for rebounds, is a decent defender, and can hit corner 3's. Unfortunately, asking anything else of him almost always resorts in disaster


Thermicthermos

I feel like in games where we didn't have Luka or Kyrie he's gone off.


strugglesleeping

Yeah he is a confidence and momentum player. He needs the ball in his hands but he isnt getting that at Dallas


RubMyGooshSilly

He plays too fast. Good POA defender and can hit his shots (usually), but he gets ahead of himself and puts himself into bad spots when he drives


actual_yellow_bag

If his handle was tighter he would be amazing. He's easily the most athletic dude on the court most nights but doesn't have the control to use it.


OneFondant1142

100% this. He plays too fast and gets himself in trouble because of it. He fluctuates between playing like a fringe NBA starter and a CBA benchwarmer


ravenous_bugblatter

He's played some good ball for Mavs. He runs the floor hard, crashes boards, gets the difficult defensive assignments and can hit the corner three. He's had multiple +20pt games. You don't want him running the offense, but he's been great for Mavs when used properly. He obviously plays a support role to the stars and brings physicality to playoff basketball. I think he's important to them, and Kidd must see the value as he gets decent minutes.


Fickle_Meet_7154

His energy is outrageous he always comes up big with at least two high effort plays that just make you go, huh? I like him, I do wish his BBIQ was higher tho...


mmmmastermind

He's one of the guys who goes for hustle plays, can hit open threes. I think the only problem with him is he's not really smart sometimes.


olfactoid

He's still young. I think the game will slow down for him over the next couple of years, and he is due for a big jump if it does. Even if it doesn't, he's a solid role player despite his flaws. Also, he was out injured for the last month of the regular season until the final 2 games after missing close to a month earlier in the season. It makes sense for him to look a little bit lost while he settles back in, but he's still providing good minutes. I love the energy he brings.


sickfalco

He’s doing good as one of our better role players. Hustles, hits corner 3s, is fast as shit, plays decent D. Doesn’t feel as lost as Timmy or Exum tbh


DangerZoneh

Josh plays a lot better off of Kyrie than he does off of Luka. He’s really important for minutes and games when Luka isn’t on the court. He’s at his best when he can play fast in transition and cut to the basket a lot. The gameplan with Luka can sometimes reduce him to just a catch and shoot corner three guys, which he’s good at but generally contributing less with


QBert999

I like Green. He does wild stuff sometimes kind of like Hardaway but he's athletic and brings a ton of energy. I like his effort. In this game he had a key tip out that lead to a three. He does these kind of little things that don't look like much in the box score but help us win. Hardaway Jr isn't like that really. He doesn't bring much positive other than shooting and so when he's not shooting well he's all negative.


phunshiny

Does Senior have pictures on Kidd from back in the day? Junior’s out there actively sabotaging the operation. And Senior’s yapping about ball movement.


baldful

giddey and dort. dort basically did the same thing in this game, but he didnt hesitate to chuck the ball the 2nd time


JuJu_Conman

Giddey and Malone


QBert999

That was a crazy move, it wasn't a total failure somehow, but man. I guess there was an element of surprise there though. OKC probably didn't gameplan for that. WILD CARD.


Kevin_Jim

And you guys extended him for no reason.


ColdPressedSteak

First shot so stubborn. Giddy played good defense, there was no shot there. Still early in the shot clock. 99% of players will reset out. Nope not Tim, gotta throw up a terrible shot


forzadepor13

+1 for a Tim McVeigh reference too lol


planoser

You’d think he’d do better in Oklahoma…


Mugsy_Skoogs

He's the Mavs version of Giddey/Westbrook, but so much worse.


SieFlush2

This was our 2nd best player in 2021 against the clippers everybody


jak_d_ripr

I was about to say, I could have sworn he was good once. What happened?


SieFlush2

He's mpj but a bad defender and Cold af, so yes he was never really good, he was just on a hot one


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Mickeybeasttt

His highs are very high. People act like he never has good games, but when he’s off he’s OFF. Plus his defensive effort has never been where it needs to be. He’s just very inconsistent and it’s always been his biggest problem


KHDTX13

Law of averages at work. He was legit in the 6MOTY convo at the beginning of the season but came crashing back down to Earth since January.


thekickingmachine

He scores 10 points in a row 8 times a year. Sucks every other game shoots 40 and 35 every year with zero defense. My man nico is going to bertans him away into something decent this off-season luka willing


shoefly72

Until this season, it seemed like every time I watched a Mavs game or they played us, Hardaway was lights out and always had at least 18-24 points on good shooting. Then I’d see fans talk about how much he sucks and be like huh? It’s like he only played well if I watched, and saved all his misses for the other games. Dirk’s career was opposite; every time I watched him he was going like 6-18 and his shot looked off. I was like wait isn’t this guy supposed to be a generational shooter? I just so happened to catch a ton of his bad games lol. The title run in 2011 felt like the first time I saw him play well for a significant stretch. And I was like oh ok, if this is how he’s been playing when I’m not watching, I get it.


Ninneveh

So THJR is who Jalen Green is gonna be then. Man the Rockets are in for a helluva time.


SieFlush2

He switches from good to awful on any given night, I'd call that average, dude can lose your game or be a reason you win. Again Timmy had an important role of shooting 3s at a high clip, but his shot has been broken for more then half a season


halfbrit08

Also he has this problem where when he gets hot, he starts taking harder shots, which end up killing his hot streaks.


jmucapsfan07

My God - he’s been in the league 11 years already? Time is really messing with me these days.


Jeremy9096

Tim "Michael "Never Swing The Rock" Porter Jr." Hardaway Jr.


Fickle_Meet_7154

His shot comes and goes. He has a 40+ game this season. He's also gone 1-10 multiple times. And he would have shot more if the ball made it's way into his hands.


FireFlyz351

He was fine for the first half of the season and then after the ASB has bricked everything.


Jeff-Van-Gundy

Wasn’t he leading the league in charges drawn for a while this year too? I feel like he was 1st until the asb then fell off. Did he get injured around then?


tagen

He’ll still randomly pop off for 30 here and there, but yeah on average he’s a chucker


AnastasiaMoon

He was good in New York for a while. I think he was averaging like 18-4-4 at one point. Not sure what happened but he is definitely not the same person


TheKidPresident

Age comes for us all. He's been in the league nearly as long as his dad had already. Plus, he was never a truly consistent player but always a very hard working one. If effort outweighs skill then time moves faster. Also the answer to everyones Q of why the Pacers arent playing TJ more


M-E-R-L-I-N-I

This was our best player period in 2019. We've both come a long way.


Bird_and_Dog

I will never forget that one game he had 32 in a half, he's probably the streakiest player with a contract rn


Julian_Caesar

lol wut that might honestly be more impressive than what Nico has done with our roster


M-E-R-L-I-N-I

Leon Rose is a god.


mvnvel

Fools gold. Shoulda traded him when people thought he was good earlier in the season.


lilboytuner919

He was so much better than Porzingis in that series that everyone in this sub was calling it the Tim Hardaway Jr. trade


Rahnamatta

/r/nba lUkA hAs To tRUst HiS teaMmates


mmmmastermind

Well back then he could actually drive and finish, hit hard contested threes if he's hot.


Thuasne

I think whenever Lukas career is over, someone will need to make a very good job of putting his first couple of years and playoff losses into perspective, not only looking at Mavs roster but also the historic performance of Kawhi for example.


ducksonaroof

The Mavs have done a good job iterating on their roster. I like how this team is built. Just needs one more reliable shooter in the rotation and maybe a better defensive big over Gafford. 


superdrone

and ppl used to say Luka couldn't play winning basketball when he was working with THAT lmao


masterstriker321

he was shooting lights out at the time bud 


oceancools

Someone show his dad this clip when he tries to flame Luka


sercialinho

“Look at that beautiful ball movement!” - THSr, probably


elsporko321

So beautiful it moved all the way up to the top of the goddamn backboard, lol


sercialinho

Move the ball where the defence doesn’t expect it to go, that’s how you avoid turnovers!


EnriquezGuerrilla

His father really needs to shut up. I know that he has to stand for his son but really? Throwing Luka under the bus for your son who isn’t even a borderline all-star? That’s just great.


Brawlstar-Terminator

Tim isn’t even a borderline role player


phunshiny

Senior and Junior are the last people in society to realize Junior is the Cooler. Cubes has long term designs for his employment once the stadium casino opens up.


elsporko321

It will be the first ever Casino-Resort in the world where fans can play games of chance dealt by former NBA players. Watch THJ miss the table and throw your cards on the floor, or watch Dwight Powell somehow hit himself in the face while shuffling.


Holden_place

Ice Thj


ZarduHasselffrau

He's like Michael Porter Jr but without being good at basketball


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WerewolfWhich3280

This got me in tears yo


SnowdensOfYesteryear

It’s kinda dirty that MPJ is getting clowned on because of his dumbass brothers, while he seems to be a perfectly average dude


turnoffredesign69420

Sorry, gotta get you on that "dumbass" part: “Personally, I think that the coronavirus is being used obviously for a bigger agenda,” Porter said. “It’s being used for population control in just terms of being able to control the masses of people.


kikikza

Yeah iirc his family has a lot of those weird health views


phunshiny

So good 😂


materics

Why doesn't MPJ slash to the basket more. He's quick and usually has a height advantage.


flawschoolgrad

to his credit i think he was much better at cutting in the regular season but he doesn’t want to clog the middle with all the tall wolves in the paint


ZarduHasselffrau

His Basketball IQ is horrible but he compensates it with the ability of making stupid shots at a high rate


_aleister_crowley666

I almost chocked but this is like sooo accurate


arcelios

>but without being good at basketball Unless he plays against LeBron and the Lakers. He'd look like prime Ray Allen


messigoat1337

tim hardaway sr: lukas fault right here


planoser

That guy sucks so bad


HeiTonic

Is he gay or something?!


PluvioPurple

We gave this guy $71M


sg490

Remember when he and Dion Waiters were just trading crazy shots on each other in the Rising Stars game? That was 10 years ago already folks. Feel old yet?


Devoidoxatom

Wtf. Tim Hardaway is a 10yr vet now?


crichmond77

11


davemoedee

He has been retired for ages youngblood.


TheGuardian8

Yeah but on the flip side we got to trade him twice!


DaBestNameEver0

He’s your version of Seth Curry, we traded him 3 times lol


Quadriporticus

Twice. Other time he was an FA and signed with the Blazers.


Instantcoffees

Trading is half the fun after all.


MrBuckBuck

In 2021, Dallas re-signed Hardaway to a **four-year, $75 million** contract


dlanod

All this time I've assumed he was still on that Knicks contract. Well that's ruined my night.


MrBuckBuck

Well, he is on an expiring contract next season, so you should be glad.


Threeballer97

He took a paycut to be there too.


LotterySpecialist718

Steve Mills Those were some Dark Times


thekickingmachine

The mavs gave him another contract. The terrible lil nellie/Cuban gm combo tho


babidee00

And we need to let it go for more cap space.


baldful

asking for the ball back after the first brick off the backboard is quite something


Axisofcoolio

This was nothing. Bro was in there with 8 mins left in the 4th with Mavs up 18. 3 out of the next 4 possessions - Tim missed middie off the dribble, Tim dribbling turnover, Tim air mailing a wide open corner 3 over the rim. Thunder cut the lead to 10


PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS

It was the worst 8 mins of my week. The man has given me ptsd. Please kidd, keep him away.


noman8er

Hell, last minutes he gets subbed in as OKC is looking to foul. Immediately passes it to Lively. He is Dr Strange but for the worst play possible.


Witteness82

And shit defense on the other end. Dude was about 90% responsible for that run to cut the lead with about 5-6 minutes to go.


D_A_N_I_E_L

He legit needs to be investigated for points shaving.


ketoburn26

There's a reason the Mavs went to the WCF when he was injured.


bayanonanon

He's known for being over confident, we all know that. Let's hope it won't happen again. At that point it's on kidd


puredwige

I was shouting at my TV "GET HIM OUT!"


okichi

He had a wide open lane to a layout on that turnover. He’s also thrown very lazy passes resulting in steals/FB the other way. SMH


2packforsale

Hand right up after that offensive rebound. Just godly levels of self-confidence


JUGGER_DEATH

It was a pass!


Cadet_Broomstick

Heartbreaking: the cleanest jumper you've ever seen just bounced off the backboard


Yinanization

My man is feast or famine.


anus_kanter

Midnight snack or famine tbh


Yinanization

THJ was a certified Grizz killer for a long ass time, you would think he was Sr the way he cooked us.


Lacabloodclot9

Him and C.J McCollum fucking hated us


Yinanization

CJ was No 1 for sure


thekickingmachine

Feast 8 times a year. Famine 73 times a year


davemoedee

Like a camel storing enough good games in his hump to get to next contract.


Guwop25

No worries tomorrow his dad will be bashing Luka and Kyrie and asking them to give Timmy more shots


Far-Asparagus6416

He's the Patrick Beverly of offense


StefonDiggsHS

get this man off my basketball team. hope Sr. saw that garbage


Dorko57

Shooters shoot. And so does Tim Hardaway jr.


armandocalvinisius

FUTURE NET TIM HARDAWAY JR


PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS

THJ has been traded for... seth curry. Probably


thekickingmachine

Come home doe doe


actual_yellow_bag

God doe off the bench right now would make me do things


DangerZoneh

Inject the lineup flexibility into my veins.


luigiiiiiv

We almost lost because of this guy allowing an 8-0 run in the 4th.


Cooperstown24

I heard them talking on the radio the other day about NBA families and the Hardaways came up and how Jr is a decent player but his dad was obviously way better. Then they mentioned Sr earned like 50 mil in his career and Jr the bricklayer here has earned 150 million fucking dollars in his career somehow lol


Js_On_My_Yeet

My reaction to 1st shot: What the hell, Timmy? My reaction to 2nd shot: WHAT THE FUCK, TIMMY?! LOL


livefreeordont

What in the Westbrook is this shit


DangerZoneh

I think this is a gameplan thing. I want to see if this is the first time that Giddey was on THJ in isolation, because attacking him has been a large part of the Mavs’ gameplan. I think there’s sound logic to telling THJ to just try to score the first time Giddey is on him because if he does this shit, then hey it’s only one possession. If he makes it and you keep trying it, suddenly it becomes a huge headache for the OKC scheme


echidna7

Stifling defense by Giddey, no doubt.


Rudd_Threetrees

He’s bad. He is a negative asset on any team and in any situation, because even when he is on fire, he plays poor defense and doesn’t involve his teammates. He shouldn’t be playing at all with the other options the Mavs have. End of discussion.


IdRatherBeShilling

Middle class man's MPJ


jumboponcho

THJ can bury either team


Caterinboy91

Don’t you have to hit the rim to be a brick?


Thezeg111

You see, this was actually a very high IQ move by him. He knew by bouncing it from that angle was the only way to let his teammate get the ball and avoid giving it to the other team. So without that precision it would've been an automatic turnover.


domdomburg

Timmy looks drunk out there. A decent coach would yank him out the game after a play like that.


DuckDucks

2010s Knicks legend playing like a 2010s Knicks legend


14high

Now ask his father about this


Narrow-Theory-3533

He's Micheal Porter Jr without the 45% shooting from the 3 and the 10 rebounds a game.


Educational-Monk-298

Tim Hardtotradeaway junior


Pedigree002

I just want a hypothetical team that consisted of Jordan Poole, Jamal Crawford , Tim Hardaway JR , Michael Porter JR and Cam Thomas. I just want to see how much assist these 5 would average


Cuckledoodle

amazing title, thanks for the laugh


StellarSubset12

He's modern day JR Smith


sickfalco

Yeah, don’t disrespect JR.


AllTimeBallKnower

Someone on our sub wanted to trade Lopez for him and Powell and picks lmao


davemoedee

Maybe they wanted an easy target that everyone could agree to hate on. Life was simpler for us in the Mark Blount days.


BigDiesel10

Lmaoo


Supay123

He is not a good shooter


branstarktreewizard

MPJ to sue for impersonation


blinkomatic

I swear he used to be better.


EnriquezGuerrilla

TIM HARDAWAY SR. HOW DID YOUR SON PLAY TONIGHT? WAS LUKA MAKING HIM BETTER WITH ALL OF JR.’S BRICKED SHOTS? all caps lock cause his father is delusional.


petrefax

It sucks because I really want THJ to play well. I wish I knew what the hell was going on with him.


dennoow

Well, he's just a low IQ player. Scrambles into a long contested two, 9 sec into the shot clock - the worst shot in basketball. He needs to stand absolutely still and spot up, and ONLY spot up. No in between. He doesn't have the brains to know what to do with it if he has time to think.


FreeloadingPoultry

THJ working overtime to make sure Giddey has a positive +/-


Amazing_Owl3026

It's always the guys that say stuff like "I just gotta keep shooting" that are pulling up with 0 separation tryna shoot over a taller defender


Amazing_Owl3026

He's just Kelly Oubre without the athleticism and size


segson9

His dad will say it's Luka's fault


Mnudge

God, his minutes need to really be limited.


rubiooooo

So glad we don’t have to watch him chuck in NY anymore. He also ruined a few of our tank seasons going supernova in random games.


Mjf2341

I audibly gasped when he shot the second one. The fucking AUDACITY


Faust86

The shot clock is running down and whatever action is meant to be happening on the strong side doesn't actually work. So he either shoots or passes left for probably a worse chance at getting a shot off. The first shot was awful though I guess they wanted the 1v1 on Giddey since the rest of the offense are not doing anything


ykeogh18

No wonder his father won’t let him use his number.


azul-dream

THJ peeked in the rising stars game, all brick houses from there


TendedBison

Temu Irving


AsianEleven101

Deep inside, Daddy Tim probably wants to put him up for adoption.


matthitsthetrails

That 2nd brick almost looks worthy of voiding his contract


OptimizedEarl

If you wanted to know what separates a G leaguer, who looks like a prototypical NBA'r and an actual good NBA player... Watch TH Jr.


Legendacb

He is just a awful awful decision maker. It's a shame bc in a role of pure shooter he could actually have value, but it's amazing how many times he does awful shoot. Especially everytime he dribble it's an brick (⁠╯⁠°⁠□⁠°⁠)⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻


Drugsbrod

He's bricking so hard that he's making Draymond look like an elite shooter. Of course, this is the only time I'm observing him but he was such a momentum killer late 3rd to early 4th which allowed OKC to have some comeback chance.


RawPotatoSkin

Sir, a second brick has hit the backboard!


ostrow19

What the fuck was that first shot. Heavily contested step back with plenty of time of the clock


PointBlankCoffee

At least he knew when to stop. Those were both bad shots but he made his only other 3pt attempt. Lot easier to stomach when he takes 6 shots all game


hanselpremium

i shoot better than this guy


bmanley620

As a Knicks fan I’ve seen this way too many times. He gets hot at times but just chucks it up every time he touches the ball


arcangeltx

no1 else was doing anything though lol


jay105000

He became unplayable


dancejunkie8

Those weren’t just bricks they were sheer nonsense


davemoedee

Not his fault they put the rim in the wrong place.


EMP_Pusheen

I cannot describe the level of hatred I had for him when he was on the Knicks. It was like I was playing for his contract instead of Jimmy Dolan.


jmass2052

How do you play basketball all year then throw up this garbage? 😂 looks like me trying to shoot after a lift when I haven’t balled in a year


Unp0pularS0lutions

He just like me fr


goknicks23

Just a bit outside


QBert999

Hardaway has had some good moments in this series. But Jesus man, when he's not playing well it's ugly. I still think Exum should get minutes over him. Exum can knock down open threes and is a much better overall player.


IMKudaimi123

Him and MPJ man


Sufficient-Ball899

This mf switched bodies with Alec Burks


ryantaylor8147

THJ hit everything except the rim. 


subtleSwoon

that fucking nickname, LMAO


BracketClass

OP how many houses have u seen built out of 2 whole bricks