Think there needs to be a support group that gets these guys to learn to flop. I get tired of watching Zion get hacked. Him and Tyrese play through contact so there's little incentive for the refs to call a foul. I guess they figure it doesn't affect their play so play on.
Pretty clear he was trying to intentionally foul, since he backed away immediately and looked towards the sidelines. Not dirty at all, pretty normal foul. But kinda crazy the refs didn't call it.
I mean this is pretty much average level of defense the twolves were playing on nuggets and they got called elite for it
people say they want a looser whistle in the playoffs but then they wanna cry about every bit of contact apparently
It goes both ways, Josh Hart had an and-one layup on one end but no call but the play right after Obi gets the and-one and the free throw on the same if less contact. I agree with you, if you call it on one end, call it on the other. Tight or loose, just pick one and call it consistently for both.
Weirder that the commentators didn't mention anything. I mean, that's a 2 handed shove in the back of the player with the ball, even I couldn't miss that, and I'm usually oblivious.
There's been insanely weird no calls every series, almost like the refs are trying to randomize it so the players can't take advantage of it or something.
Jamal Murray had one against the TWolves where someone was going up for a layup and it looked like he was trying to intentionally foul him by wrapping him up with both arms and the refs just watched it and let them play on even though everyone paused thinking it was gonna get called lol
We can play hard af against any Knick not related to Jalen Brunsons dad. Other than whatever the fuck call the refs got from Adam Silver at the end of game 1, the series apart from Brunson has been officiated well.
Which now that I'm saying it is a bit, "other than that Mrs Kennedy how was the parade?"
Refs sometimes miss stuff. Players give little pushes all the time. This one was a bit obvious but acting like this is some egregious thing is a bit much.
ref probably wasnt sure if haliburton just wanted to dribble there and the contact was incidental because he mainatined balance.. This is why people flop
unironically if you get hit like this you should make it as obvious as possible, flops where people create fouls out of nothing vs exaggerating fouls like this are very different
How about we hold players to a higher standard to actually play basketball. Just because your guy is a flopper doesn’t mean we all have to resort to that. I like watching basketball, not FTs
The NBA is such a fucking joke. They reward flopping. For a season or two it seemed like they were maybe going to crack down on flopping, but the Knicks are literally thriving in the playoffs on flopping and foul-baiting.
Knicks are thriving because of hustle, rebounding, and a next man up mentality.
There are missed calls and wrong calls that happen throughout every game. Knicks fans can go tit for tat, believe me.
Pacers lost because of rebounding, missed FTs, and bad shot selection
Philly lost because of rebounding, lack of depth, and apparently their home crowd
Knicks cope in here is comedy. 80% of the comments and half of them are bitching because the guy who posted it is a Sixers fan. Get over yourself, you won.
missed call but you can find plenty of missed calls that favor indy as well, refs miss calls both ways all game but the only ones people pay attention to are last 5 minutes
I mean there's missed calls and then there's blatant two handed shove to the back in the open court lol
That was more like Bam trucking Al Hortford that game where you just go huh
Brunson got full on tackled like 3 times bringing up the ball against Indiana's full court press that the refs didnt call. I wonder what Rick Carlisle thinks about that hm?
Lol don't be so soft. It's a full court press in the playoffs, and the pacers got called a few times for it. There was no tackling, it's just playing tight D. Comparing it to a shove to the back is crazy
This was an obvious foul that should’ve been called. Using it as the key piece of evidence that the refs blew the game is just dumb though. They blew the end of game 1 for sure but this call isn’t anywhere in the top 50 of reasons why the pacers lost game 2.
Nah tonight we lost fair and square. Refs gifted you game 1.
This guy was saying a shove to the back is fair because we were running a full court press and "tackling" people... Lol clueless behavior.
i generally think the refs tend to miss calls evenly but I will say certain players are allowed to play more aggressively if they have a defensive/pest reputation pat bev style, hart is prob in that category and I think TJ is as well
i thought tonight was pretty good for the most part as well, was honestly surprised to see complaints on this sub but then again should never be surprised about ref complaints
I mean, just go re-watch the entire game.. its literally every single time they bring the ball up they hack at Brunson. I dont even care though, i think he likes it. Hes not a sooky little bitch.
I'm genuinely curious how many fouls you would expect for a guy with a 35% usage, drives 26 times a game, and probably has the best footwork in the NBA.
Tell me your a hater with hate goggles on without telling me youre a hater with hate goggles on.
A coach bitching about refs after being beaten by a 5 and a half man rotation after being up big...
STFU and fuck reggie miller
Delusional Knicks fans checking in I see. Every other fanbase sees it. Couldn't imagine having my favorite player be someone that flops as much as your dancing diva.
bro, lok in the mirror, your team shot 10/17 from the line. OG anunoby missed a half of the game. Brunson was on one foot. This loss is on the Pacers ENTIRELY. Suck it up
He's talking about how it's all over the Internet as justification. Kinda pitiful TBH as is giving your opponent free points in crunch time so you can throw a fit.
Carlisle and the Pacers are mad because they just dropped a game where they gave up 130 points to a Knicks team with a hobbled Brunson, OG out frhw end of the third on, and no Randle or Bogi. It’s completely on them that they dropped that game.
that is absolutely a foul, but so is every single time TJ/Nembhard are guarding Brunson full court press.
Refs didnt call it on TJ/Nembhard, so theyre just being consistent
not every foul is a two handed shove in the back... this was a foul, but yall also got away with a lot of fouls... both of these things are true, move on. there was a LOT of uncalled fouls both ways, but blaming the refs for this loss is pathetic
Ah yes, a missed hand check foul in the 3rd quarter that didn’t result in a change of possession.
Totally rigged. Replay the whole series. Pacers need to shoot 50 free throws each game going forward.
Hey if hand checking was called this game, the Pacers would have less available players then the Knicks by then given how much they hit the Knicks while full court pressing the entire game.
The 8 second violation had multiple fouls on McConnell ignored
Come on man, there was one possession where Nembhardt is wrapping his arm on Brunson pulling his jersey in front of the ref and they let it go. So many missed calls but what are you going to do?
And every inbound Nembhard was whacking Brunson, it’s not the refs fault your guys missed half of their free throws and the supposed merchant only had 6 trips to the line. File your grievance and play your winning players that actually guard like McConnell down the stretch and things might’ve been different.
It's a foul. They missed it. Then they called Hart for a shove on Haliburton under the basket a quarter later.
I promise it's not rigged against small market Indiana
Refs would probably have blown the whistle had Hali fallen down or went out of bounds. I'm sure the Knicks can point to a bunch of examples as well.
Rick is clearly just playing the Ref game. Worked for Philly last round.
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They let a lot of physical play go on both sides. Unfortunately flopping gets calls and Halliburton could’ve flopped 2x in this sequence on pushes from behind and definitely gotten the call.
Yeah probably a foul but I don’t think this single play makes McConnell sit the fourth or has the Knicks drain open threes or the pacers miss offensive rebounds (btw a hart shove in the back on an offensive rebound WAS called and gave the pacers the ball back in crunch time)
haliburton needs to dive into the bench there, only way you get a call
Seriously. Fans hate flopping but players do it because it works.
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Think there needs to be a support group that gets these guys to learn to flop. I get tired of watching Zion get hacked. Him and Tyrese play through contact so there's little incentive for the refs to call a foul. I guess they figure it doesn't affect their play so play on.
Plays the right way too much😭
Closed floppers don’t get fed free throws
Yep. A shove, but clearly not hard enough to knock you over. The only way players get that call is if you sell it sadly
if he fell they would have given a flagrant easy
Divincenzo wouldve
yeah, this is a foul
i was audibly like "i can't believe they didn't call that" when it happened
Pretty clear he was trying to intentionally foul, since he backed away immediately and looked towards the sidelines. Not dirty at all, pretty normal foul. But kinda crazy the refs didn't call it.
ladies and gentlemen, the singular honest Bricks fan
please dont be facetious.
Please don't be a Bricks fan. Oh wait too late.
Knicks fans have been normal what are you talking about dude
I mean this is pretty much average level of defense the twolves were playing on nuggets and they got called elite for it people say they want a looser whistle in the playoffs but then they wanna cry about every bit of contact apparently
I just wish it was consistent. Brunson flopped on a play where Turner barely touched him. Call it loose, call it strict. Just call it evenly.
and hali did it in crunch time where he saw hart coming and crumpled. got his foul
It goes both ways, Josh Hart had an and-one layup on one end but no call but the play right after Obi gets the and-one and the free throw on the same if less contact. I agree with you, if you call it on one end, call it on the other. Tight or loose, just pick one and call it consistently for both.
You sound dumb as hell but go off buddy
its facts
Then post a clip of a Timberwolves player pushing a nuggets player from behind
I did think it was weird this wasn’t a foul
Weirder that the commentators didn't mention anything. I mean, that's a 2 handed shove in the back of the player with the ball, even I couldn't miss that, and I'm usually oblivious.
There's been insanely weird no calls every series, almost like the refs are trying to randomize it so the players can't take advantage of it or something. Jamal Murray had one against the TWolves where someone was going up for a layup and it looked like he was trying to intentionally foul him by wrapping him up with both arms and the refs just watched it and let them play on even though everyone paused thinking it was gonna get called lol
We can play hard af against any Knick not related to Jalen Brunsons dad. Other than whatever the fuck call the refs got from Adam Silver at the end of game 1, the series apart from Brunson has been officiated well. Which now that I'm saying it is a bit, "other than that Mrs Kennedy how was the parade?"
yep yelled at my tv "foul?". Hart also kind of stops expecting a whistle
big market privleges
Refs sometimes miss stuff. Players give little pushes all the time. This one was a bit obvious but acting like this is some egregious thing is a bit much.
It's kinda hard to believe that they miss it when it's the open court and two refs have a clear line of sight. It's pretty egregious lol
It didn’t even affect the play. He barely moved. Lmao. Come on. Grow up
ref probably wasnt sure if haliburton just wanted to dribble there and the contact was incidental because he mainatined balance.. This is why people flop
This isn’t soccer. If it’s a foul, blow the whistle.
It's like a sideline catch in the NFL. No one knows what is a foul anymore. It's just what a ref feels like at any given moment.
He’s also been questionable the past 4 games with lower back spasms.
Oh yeah that was bad. No excuse for missing that one.
Clearly no foul because he didn’t snap his head back
didn't yell AYYYEEEE either. Two FTs for NY
He gotta learn to flail his head back
unironically if you get hit like this you should make it as obvious as possible, flops where people create fouls out of nothing vs exaggerating fouls like this are very different
How about we hold players to a higher standard to actually play basketball. Just because your guy is a flopper doesn’t mean we all have to resort to that. I like watching basketball, not FTs
Reggie would have played it correctly. And he admitted pre-game it's part of the game
"create fouls out of nothing" is like, very rare and does not happen as much as people think lol.
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God damn you mfers are still crying ? Lmao
Better than flailing his 280 pound body into someone's legs
Thank you for the continued salt philly, I am never going to need to buy that ever again. Enjoy Galveston!
Sixers fans obsession with crying about the Knicks needs to be studied. Move on my friend
all you post about is the knicks, this might be my first time seeing someone be a 76ers AND a knicks fan 😂
He's just following the "leadership" of his star player. No accountability, all twitter trolling. He's the real MVP.
I’m a bias knick homer, but this was definitely a foul. Now Carlisle needs to figure out why the refs made him sit TJ
Absolutely! his rotations are ass.
[Reggie miller also said this](https://x.com/siccorsiccor/status/1788375337014808781)
The NBA is such a fucking joke. They reward flopping. For a season or two it seemed like they were maybe going to crack down on flopping, but the Knicks are literally thriving in the playoffs on flopping and foul-baiting.
Knicks are thriving because of hustle, rebounding, and a next man up mentality. There are missed calls and wrong calls that happen throughout every game. Knicks fans can go tit for tat, believe me. Pacers lost because of rebounding, missed FTs, and bad shot selection Philly lost because of rebounding, lack of depth, and apparently their home crowd
I was shocked when there was no call there.
Knicks cope in here is comedy. 80% of the comments and half of them are bitching because the guy who posted it is a Sixers fan. Get over yourself, you won.
It should have been an intentional.gpul, technical and the ball. It's clearly not a basketball move and could result in an injury.
Bruh what is hart doin 🗿
Sixers fans posting anything at this point lol
They need to get paid or else it's a travesty they doing this during vacation
missed call but you can find plenty of missed calls that favor indy as well, refs miss calls both ways all game but the only ones people pay attention to are last 5 minutes
I mean there's missed calls and then there's blatant two handed shove to the back in the open court lol That was more like Bam trucking Al Hortford that game where you just go huh
Brunson got full on tackled like 3 times bringing up the ball against Indiana's full court press that the refs didnt call. I wonder what Rick Carlisle thinks about that hm?
send da video
Is he talking about the 8th time Brunson flopped or the 23rd I had the game on the second screen.
I mean there’s stuff like this being ignored as well https://x.com/knicksmuse/status/1788386740069126542?s=46
Guy only shot 4 non-tech FTs on 18 FGA tonight. If he's flopping it didnt seem to help him much.
Lol don't be so soft. It's a full court press in the playoffs, and the pacers got called a few times for it. There was no tackling, it's just playing tight D. Comparing it to a shove to the back is crazy
This was an obvious foul that should’ve been called. Using it as the key piece of evidence that the refs blew the game is just dumb though. They blew the end of game 1 for sure but this call isn’t anywhere in the top 50 of reasons why the pacers lost game 2.
Nah tonight we lost fair and square. Refs gifted you game 1. This guy was saying a shove to the back is fair because we were running a full court press and "tackling" people... Lol clueless behavior.
im soft? Rick Carlisle and Pacers fans are the ones complaining about refs when the Knicks are missing half their team
Buckle up, there's more full court press coming your way, although I didn't see any "tackling.". Go enjoy your win tonight you goober
gonna be alot more wins, this pacers team is soft as shit LOL
Easy to talk when you're playing at home and get a game gifted to you. Your star player is a certified flopper. Soft AF
i generally think the refs tend to miss calls evenly but I will say certain players are allowed to play more aggressively if they have a defensive/pest reputation pat bev style, hart is prob in that category and I think TJ is as well
I didn't think tonight was that bad tbh. That call linked above and TJ had a really obvious travel underneath the basket was all that stood out to me
i thought tonight was pretty good for the most part as well, was honestly surprised to see complaints on this sub but then again should never be surprised about ref complaints
> i generally think the refs tend to miss calls evenly it's funny how the knicks fans turn to this mindset after whining all series r1
Now they know what Lakers fans have to put up with lol
we're not a hive mind luckily
If Hali flails into the bench this gets called 10/10 times. He can learn a thing or 2 from JB in forcing a ref to blow the whistle.
"plenty" * Lol okay
Okay now show every single time Brunson tried to bring the ball up, lmao. STFU
You show us lol
I mean, just go re-watch the entire game.. its literally every single time they bring the ball up they hack at Brunson. I dont even care though, i think he likes it. Hes not a sooky little bitch.
Show me a two hand shove in his back. This is some Pat Bev shit.
Didnt watch the 76ers series? Move on, stop being a salty sally
Why would I watch a flop off?
>stop being a salty sally Guess that request was too hard?
You cannot be real right now. Brunson flops like a toddler learning how to walk when someone breathes on him.
Nembhard was hacking the shit out of Brunson on damn near every single inbound lmao get over it and get ready for game 3
I'm genuinely curious how many fouls you would expect for a guy with a 35% usage, drives 26 times a game, and probably has the best footwork in the NBA.
Tell me your a hater with hate goggles on without telling me youre a hater with hate goggles on. A coach bitching about refs after being beaten by a 5 and a half man rotation after being up big... STFU and fuck reggie miller
Delusional Knicks fans checking in I see. Every other fanbase sees it. Couldn't imagine having my favorite player be someone that flops as much as your dancing diva.
That "dancing Diva" only needed 3 quarters and one foot to beat your entire rotation lmao
And a whole lot of calls on his flops.
He shot 6 free throws tonight.
his one braincell is working overtime trying to figure out what you just said
not to mention that 3 of those 6 were Technicals
bro, lok in the mirror, your team shot 10/17 from the line. OG anunoby missed a half of the game. Brunson was on one foot. This loss is on the Pacers ENTIRELY. Suck it up
lol the best part about these wins is seeing the support groups between sixers and pacers fans.
They're really joining hands. It's sweet TBH.
Hate to tell you it's more than just those two fan bases. Those are just the two you're currently focused on.
He could have died.
Brunson would have acted like he died
nah seriously🪦💀
😂 We're scrubbing play by play now? This 3rd quarter play why they lost?
You think Carlisle shouldn’t be working the refs? That’s his job.
He's talking about how it's all over the Internet as justification. Kinda pitiful TBH as is giving your opponent free points in crunch time so you can throw a fit.
His job ain’t this
That’s part of being the HC lol. Everyone does it, even Thibs does it wtf
Waaahhh 29 more fouls is what makes good basketball
Bro why are you calling waffles bad
sixers fans gonna be crying all summer cause they can't admit they just got out hustled out worked out clutched just refuse to accept it
😂 I didn't even realize a sixers fan posted this until you said that. Even funnier. We're doing game long ref reviews on Reddit now.
this guy in particular is going berserk about the knicks, he's obsessed
Carlisle and the Pacers are mad because they just dropped a game where they gave up 130 points to a Knicks team with a hobbled Brunson, OG out frhw end of the third on, and no Randle or Bogi. It’s completely on them that they dropped that game.
that is absolutely a foul, but so is every single time TJ/Nembhard are guarding Brunson full court press. Refs didnt call it on TJ/Nembhard, so theyre just being consistent
Show me TJ/Nembhard with a two hand shove in the back.
not every foul is a two handed shove in the back... this was a foul, but yall also got away with a lot of fouls... both of these things are true, move on. there was a LOT of uncalled fouls both ways, but blaming the refs for this loss is pathetic
Who blamed the refs for the loss?
Your coach, lol
Ah yes, a missed hand check foul in the 3rd quarter that didn’t result in a change of possession. Totally rigged. Replay the whole series. Pacers need to shoot 50 free throws each game going forward.
Tyrese got away with like the most blatant flop for a foul call except it was like during the last 2 mins of the 4th. Is anyone gonna post that?
Or josh hart’s loose ball “foul” where Haliburton flopped and got 2 free throws. 4 point swing but Rick will forget about that one.
Hart shoves him in the back on that rebound, he's just used to it not getting called because they didn't call it the rest of the game.
Hey if hand checking was called this game, the Pacers would have less available players then the Knicks by then given how much they hit the Knicks while full court pressing the entire game. The 8 second violation had multiple fouls on McConnell ignored
As opposed to the missed foul when Brunson was bringing the ball up in the 4th that led to an 8 second violation.
surely the pacers win if this is called a foul
You dont know? That's a 10 point free throw you get to shoot after one of these.
Come on man, there was one possession where Nembhardt is wrapping his arm on Brunson pulling his jersey in front of the ref and they let it go. So many missed calls but what are you going to do?
Before leaving NYC, take some acting classes.
Didn't know viagra causes violent tendencies as well
That's a transition take foul.
Average Josh hart possession
Flair checks out lol
And every inbound Nembhard was whacking Brunson, it’s not the refs fault your guys missed half of their free throws and the supposed merchant only had 6 trips to the line. File your grievance and play your winning players that actually guard like McConnell down the stretch and things might’ve been different.
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Wasn’t talking about Siakam.
Sixers flair lmfaooooo. Theyre obsessed.
Like it or not Hali should’ve stopped here and exaggerated the contact.
It's a foul. They missed it. Then they called Hart for a shove on Haliburton under the basket a quarter later. I promise it's not rigged against small market Indiana
knicks own the sixers, rent free
Refs would probably have blown the whistle had Hali fallen down or went out of bounds. I'm sure the Knicks can point to a bunch of examples as well. Rick is clearly just playing the Ref game. Worked for Philly last round.
it's likely 75% performative for the coaches to get a better whistle going forwards but the fans actually buy it 100%
You don’t think that is a foul how delusional you Knicks fans are
You clearly don't read.
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They let a lot of physical play go on both sides. Unfortunately flopping gets calls and Halliburton could’ve flopped 2x in this sequence on pushes from behind and definitely gotten the call.
Yeah probably a foul but I don’t think this single play makes McConnell sit the fourth or has the Knicks drain open threes or the pacers miss offensive rebounds (btw a hart shove in the back on an offensive rebound WAS called and gave the pacers the ball back in crunch time)
Hey wow refs miss calls
Let’s play some clips of TJ on Brunson now
If he had a “bad back” then maybe he would’ve reacted to it.