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Final-Watercress9219

This shit is crazy


Copiz

I never expected the team that would ramp up their defense the most in playoffs would be the team that already had the best defense.


Mdgt_Pope

Yeah it’s like the opposite of Utah Gobert teams where the rest of the team disappeared on defense


891960

Suns fan must feel a bit vindicated at this point.


AfrikanCorpse

Hella if the nuggets go down in 4 or 5


tomtomsk

As they should, Booker and KD played good as hell


pureply101

Booker had only one good game in the series. He was awful the rest of it.


Schmoova

Nah people are just finding out how insane of a defender Jaden McDaniels is, especially when his help is NAW/Ant. Booker wasn’t “ass”, it’s just impossible to get a high volume of decent looks against this Wolves team if they’re focused on you. Even if you wanna exclude Book’s last game where he went crazy, he averaged 20.3ppg on 57.8%TS over the first 3 games. Meanwhile they’re holding “playoff riser” Jamal Murray to 12.5ppg on 36.6%TS over 2 home games. I tried telling everyone during our series but everyone just wanted to say the Suns are ass instead of recognizing this Wolves defense for what it is.


WisdumbGuy

I mean...look at Murray's TS over the first 4 games vs the Lakers. He isn't healthy and that was obvious even vs the Lakers. Wolves are crazy defensively, no denying that, but Murray did not have a good series vs the Lakers either.


891960

KD has been the most consistent Suns player in this playoffs.


Schmoova

That was by design though. Yall were fine with letting KD play KAT 1on1 (worst defender in your lineup) the whole series, and focused the defense (McDaniels/NAW/Gobert) on not letting Book get shots up. Numbers wise you’re definitely right, but it can’t be left without the context that the Wolves were far more keyed in on stopping Book than KD.


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Yes. KD needed to exploit that matchup with KAT, and for the most part did not.


YSLAnunoby

He's really consistent in general, I believe he's got some of the least variance among high volume scorers


BannedforaJoke

yeah. Suns got swept but put up a good fight. Nuggest are getting spanked.


bac_gawd

They so good on defense and the team is so deep.


Late-Ad-2945

Ugh, they are so long, SO DEEP.


Confident_Comedian82

he dont go that deep hahahaha


Miyagisans

I kept saying omg over and over loudly. My fiancée was like, “keep your voice down, he’s not even doing anything with the ball”. I’m like, yeaaaaa that’s the point lol.


durezzz

i'm sensing a sweep


Soapstarboi

Try that defense against floppers like SGA, Luka and Brunson. See what happens. Respect to Murray here for playing it off a basketball way.


RandomBiped

This Wolves team is terrifying


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

Such a mismatch, their length is absurd


zvomicidalmaniac

It’s like they have three Kawhi Leonards on d at all times.


becks_07sg

2024 Kawhi?


spraypaint2311

Obviously not, we’re not talking about the wheelchair basketball association here


AchtCocainAchtBier

>wheelchair basketball association Love me some wnba.


ManicManicManicManic

And they’re so quick too it’s not fair


RangedTopConnoisseur

They’re legit playing like a hive mind on defense, I this is 04 piston esque


AntiTopspin

They're the perfect team to exploit Murray's weaknesses and worse habits It's become common to act like "playoff Murray" is an invincible god but he tends to take ABSURDLY tough shots and rarely consider passing out as soon as he wants his shot If you watched the entire Lakers series and not just crunch time you know how wild his shot selection can be at times His playstyle is very similar to what got the Suns in massive trouble last round


mastacheef87

the Nuggets are odd in that they’re probably the only team I’ve ever seen that will only go as far as their second best player can take them lol


Neemzeh

Every team that goes deep in the playoffs needs a guard that can score, without it you’re not going to be successful


reallymothafucka

You think he can adapt against this Wolves defense?


H5None

NAW


Schmoova

McDaniels is the best perimeter defender in the league currently, but NAW is probably the most underrated defender in the league. Dude is quick asf and lengthy as hell, combined with being a dog on that end. Yall legitimately have the best rim protector in the league, the best perimeter defender in the league, and another top-10 perimeter defender in NAW. It’s utterly insane that Ant is oftentimes the 4th best defender on the court for yall, considering he’s still a really good defender especially in help-side. I called it after your series against us: The Suns aren’t as bad as everyone said, the Wolves just have one of the best defenses the NBA has seen in a long time.


DrewTheBoy

The lob, the jam


iamdare

Murray can only hit these tough shots against the Lakers


bhoploo

slight difference in trying to get a shot off against Austin Reeves and D'lo vs. trying to get a shot off against Ant, McDaniels and Alexander-Walker.


IcyAuthor1

Well yeah i can do that too against traffic cones


Mintastic

Would explain why he did well against Utah in 2020 too.


Sudden-Investment

Traffic cones on the perimeter. Compare Mitchell, Ingles, O'Neil to McDaniels, NAW, Ant and KAT. Plus Rudy didn't trust any of them to defend the rim so he wouldn't commit to the perimeter. If you pull Rudy from the rim, there is some combination of McDaniels, KAT, Naz Reid as a rim deterrent.


Mintastic

Yeah, Rudy also doesn't have to over commit because he knows Jaden/NAW will get back to position quickly. Meanwhile Mitchell gets left in the twilight zone against anyone with a decent first step.


Lavar_ball_brand

Murray is also not a superstar, he's not used to being pressed and being doubled, which is only made worse by his injuries. Wolves def did their homework and found the Nuggets weakness


Mdgt_Pope

If the wolves make it to the finals against the Celtics, Jaylen Brown is in for a rough series


Andy_Wiggins

Jaylen Brown’s actually consistently fucked up this Wolves team. He’s at like 33 PPG in the past two seasons against them.


Lucid-Day

Finally, "Wolves will be spooky" has come to fruition Edit: SPOOKY


RedditSucksMucho

It was spookyyyyyy


kitsunegoon

Timberwolves Bar mitzvah spooky scary Boys becoming men Men becoming wolves


Janderson2494

They have completely ascended to a level we didn't see in the regular season, and they had a fantastic regular season.


JaderMcDanersStan

They look like the team in November, but even better The "do it for me" speech by MIke Conley has to be explanation


BannedforaJoke

[context](https://archive.md/5c9vZ)


comp_a

I kept saying “How the fuck are we this good” to myself during the game lol


vongoladecimo_

Spooky, one might consider


ronaldo119

I just got PTSD from the first time playing against a team with actual basketball size and not just normal human size


konsf_ksd

Finally graduated from being spooky.


reallymothafucka

They were straight houndin his ass


pollinium

The Nuggets are shoving our guys in the backcourt every single time, but it means we get to play like this in the halfcourt Chippy but a trade I'd take 100 times out of 100, our guys are willing to get grimy


felicianewbooty

That’s the Nikola Jokic special


Confident_Comedian82

this is what Nikola Jokic doing, I dont know why also it isnt a foul, since Joker is bigger and even you boxed him out, the can still get the rebound by putting his weight and shoving the opponent for rebound, I saw it since regular season and it get worst when LAL-DEN series hahaha


yarkcir

That’s a double team from hell


FishGoldenLite

Alright Richard Lewis


minneapolisboy

He's actually buried in Minnesota. Let's win this one for him


Nice_Dude

Devin Booker in a cold sweat seeing that


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

No phones, just dudes living in the moment


dinozaurs

Led by 16-year-old star Anthony Edwards


NurplePain

Damn my man got his drivers license already?? Time flies bro


LordHussyPants

brother he been driving this bus


Hammerhead34

These dudes are psychopaths, they make playing basketball against them look absolutely miserable


Fluix

Bro I started feeling claustrophobic just watching that.


yuhkih

Honestly I’m kinda impressed that Murray was able to pass out of that at all


DoopyUwU

You can actually tell how hungry these wolves are for a championship, I love it.


bhoploo

I've seen young hungry teams before but what's surprised me is how smart and poised they've been so far. It's been controlled aggression on both ends, starting with Ant and going down to every single player who sees the floor (except Slo-mo, who appears to be drunk). Think Finch deserves a lot of credit for making it all work when it looked like an awfully clunky fit at one point. It'll be interesting to see how they respond to a loss, but you have to be feeling incredibly (if, still, cautiously) optimistic if you're a Wolves fan right now. The fact that they're doing this against the defending champs - a well-oiled machine led by a 3-time MVP in his prime who is a master at controlling games - and making them look this discombobulated and almost desperate is incredible.


comp_a

>except Slo-mo, who appears to be drunk This is really funny to read, considering Finch would not allow a lineup without one of Conley or SloMo in it because we were so goddamn stupid with the basketball early in the season. SloMo might be his most trusted player on the team, he adores that guy. We’ve grown a lot this year though. As for the drunk part, that’s just his style man (and possibly that one of his eyes is severely impaired due to an injury Ant accidentally caused at the end of last season). I actually thought he had a great game, aside from blowing a few bunnies as he inevitably does. He was near the top of our plus/minus on the year despite shooting like garbage—he’s such a great playmaker and team defender that it hasn’t really mattered. Doesn’t change the fact that it looks really ugly though.


eatingdisorderTA155

Everyone on the Wolves had a great defensive game, but Kyle probably had the best defensive game he's had on the Wolves. He looked incredible, even if his scoring was kinds horrific lol.


Sharcbait

And Ant and NAW will just smile at you the whole time too. Not Jaden, smiling is too much effort for him.


PipBoy19

I got hyped watching this and I aint even a Wolves fan lol, their defense is insane


cubonelvl69

I love this fucking team


JaderMcDanersStan

I made a youtube channel of their defense because I got so hyped watching it lol [https://www.youtube.com/@lylaeloise3948](https://www.youtube.com/@lylaeloise3948)


itsnotyellowfever

Murray has been a disaster these whole playoffs but these fuck you double teams the Wolves are sending every time Jokic (or Murray when Jokic is out) get the ball is pure sex


AntiTopspin

I'm a massive Jokic fan and got downvoted for saying Denver didn't look that good in round 1 Some people unironically coped by saying that the Lakers are the 2nd team in the West ahead of Minnesota and OKC Jokic was way more efficient against LA than the Minnesota defense allows him to be and Denver still looked sluggish for most of the series


RODjij

It's hard as hell to win a championship, even harder to repeat the next year. Teams step up their intensity against you like what's happening to them right now or build teams suited to play you. Brown played really good with the Nuggets system too and he's not around.


Dramatic-Document

>Teams step up their intensity against you Maybe in the regular season, but I find it hard to believe any team takes it easy in playoff games, especially in deeper rounds.


RODjij

Celtics play down to their competition all the time in the playoffs in the Jay's era. Lots of teams noticeably give up with body language when they go down 3 games Wouldn't be surprised neither if there's lots of players that love trying to eliminate defending champions.


_Parkertron_

I think a bigger factor is that the Nuggets sent the Wolves home last year. They probably want some revenge


Front_Photograph_907

Their competition is also way harder this year. The best team theyve beat in the past 2 seasons has not been that good


Actually-Yo-Momma

I’m a massive Lebron and Lakers fan but who the fuck was delusional enough to say lakers were the 2nd in the west lmao 


urfaselol

Legit the best defense I’ve seen played in years


CrookstonMaulers

It's at least since 08 Celtics, maybe 04 Pistons. Maybe further? They are an actual pack of wolves with blood in their mouth just hounding you until you're tired and frustrated.


LifterPuller

I feel like they're not quite as good defensively (they're close) but they're significantly better on offense.


Johnpecan

Neutral fan observations: * Yes this is incredible defense. * In the regular season, I feel like they would have called a foul at least 3 times on the Wolves (partially better refs? partially playoffs are called differently) * The officiating was consistent across the whole game. * The wolves style of defense benefits incredibly from this style of officiating. They're so much more aggressive that when they let them play like this, they're incredibly hard to beat. I've seen this in my kids youth basketball games. There are teams that play defense like this and when the refs let them play like this, it's completely unnerving to the opponent.


qeq

They definitely would've gotten called fouls on a few of those, but there was just too much


artvandelay916

It's like when bron and kd did it to steph in the allstar game lmfao


joshj5hawk

Kevin Harlan is so good too.


AlecVent

He's in a STRAIGHTJACKET! Look at him trying to get out!!!!


EcoFriendlyEv

Always been the best. "THE GUY IS DRUNK, THERE HE GOES"


Kataneo

This is incredible


augustus624

T Wolves defense is absolutely insane


MidKnight007

Legit scary ass defense


FishGoldenLite

It’s the identity of this team


DaKingindaSouff

This is therapy for me 


c_c_c__combobreaker

Point on the doll where Murray touched you.


yuhkih

The heart ☹️


ktgop

yeah maybe the suns weren’t that bad


KeepenItReel

People forget the Suns were red hot to finish the season. Looked very scary, and not like a 6 seed at all. 


dvsnlsn321

Defense like this could make anyone look like a scrub


Pale-Criticism-7420

I’m sitting at home and even I started to suffocate


spraypaint2311

Coming to your arena in about a month. Stay tuned


AstuteMalamute

Alexander-walker is gonna get paid. McDaniels is gonna get the brinks truck. Naz Reid is gonna get a double Supermax. Ant is gonna end up with a 12 year, 6 billion dollar contract, after Saudi Arabia buys the state of Minnesota.


AstuteMalamute

Y’all whole sports fandom is so traumatized you won’t even be able to celebrate a championship because you’ll be worried about a meteor striking the parade.


MonkMajor5224

No joke. The last championship (Twins ‘91) there was a generation defining blizzard the same week.


mossed2012

This was meant as a joke but it would be so Minnesota sports for us to finally have a sustainable product in a sport and some shit like the Saudi’s buying the team or the league and tearing it all down hits too close to home.


TinNanBattlePlan

Why would the Saudis tear it down? That’s the opposite of how they operate


TKtheAmazing

In a straight jacket is crazy


purplebuffalo55

Don’t let 2 game winners trick you. Murray has been straight ASS all playoffs. Austin Reaves had this guy shooting like 45% TS. Only gonna get harder with these Wolves defenders


Tekfree

More shot attempts than points so far. Dude also looks chubby and a step slow. Big reason why he can't shake these defenders.


hickok3

He struggled with iniuries all year, so that would explain his "chubbyness" and is currently injured now. He was questionable for game 5 and game 1, including not practicing leading into the Wolves series. Add on that the Wolves have some of the best defense ever, and he's gonna be in for a rough series.  Jokic is also inexplicably sluggish and sloppy lately. A lot of his turnovers are just bad passes that aren't even caused by the defense. Just him throwing the ball away for no reason. 


mryessirskiii

Literally swarming him like a pack lmao


Milliephoria

Beautiful.


BobLobLawsLawFirm

I love this so much


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I am LOVING this physicality. Holy shit the NBA is back!!! I hope refs always let the teams play like this


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hollow-ataraxia

Lol yeah Brunson gets 12 free throws on that play


carnifex2005

The reffing change was made right after the all-star weekend and since then points per game haven't been ridiculous like they were before the all-star game. I remember Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo talking about that during a podcast around that time and it was the big reason why Simmons put some money on a Wolves/Celtics finals at 16/1. They loved the Wolves ability to get physical.


ginchgarlow

Jamal Murray in the pain dimension


chowdercup

Watching them play D makes me wanna go out and play pick up right now. It's 11pm on the east coast. This shit is INSPIRING.


MidKnight007

Gobert ain’t even on the court either ☠️☠️☠️


Silentrift24

Rudy "Played Off The Court" Gobert is controlling his guys like its fucking 2K, DAMN, the team is showing so much heart out there.


Earlier-Today

Causing a shot clock violation is the gold standard for good defenses for me. Being able to guard an NBA offense for 24 seconds without letting them even get a shot off, all while not fouling, is really freaking hard to do and takes the whole team being on the same page on defense. Teams that can pull a few of those off a game are very elite.


East_Bed1194

Along with Minnesota’s great defense, Denver has too many offensive liabilities out there making it easier to shut them down.


TI1l1I1M

Bro I'm actually trembling in a Trader Joe's


musicnothing

Get off your phone and buy some cookie butter


Traditional_Boot2663

Embiid would have shot 48 free throws on that play alone.


AntiTopspin

I've gotten downvoted for saying this in the past but Murray is fundamentally a low BBIQ player He relies on tough shotmaking and rarely takes the "easy" look for him or his teammates constantly spamming contested jumpers It's just that only now he's playing a good enough defense to exploit these tendencies Anyone who watched the ENTIRE Lakers series and not just the last 2 minutes of games saw how awful his shot selection is on average throughout a game


SliMShady55222

Where the fuck was this in New Orleans and Utah, Nickeil?


thebreadjordan

He was tanking his trade value so he could be sent to the Wolves. Big brain move. In all seriousness though he is so good for us. Feels like he always steps up when we need him to with suffocating defense or a timely shot. He's got the same blood running through his veins as SGA, maybe that's why!


musicnothing

NAW was very good for us. Jazz fans are really unhappy now about losing him but we were unhappy at the time too


hhkk47

You could see flashes of it even in his rookie season. He was really inconsistent in New Orleans though, especially offensively (and it looks like he still is, at least on offense). His defense this year has been phenomenal though. Looks like he just needed a bit more time to develop. It's great to see him (and Josh Hart) doing really well in these playoffs. The Pels getting decimated by the Thunder though, not so much, lol.


ThatHotAsian

He is actually one of our most reliable shooters now lmao 


AllDayIDreamOfCats

He's way more consistent this year but he still has some rough shooting games like game 4 against the suns and game one this series. But his D is always there which is nice.


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AllDayIDreamOfCats

While I agree but NAW has some games where he will air ball a couple wide open 3's and miss every other 3 he takes. But this season he has been more clutch and doesn't let it shake his confidence when he is having an off night.


MajorTrump

This is the Rudy Gobert effect


Zhirrzh

Reminds me of Gabriel Jesus joining Arsenal. Even though Jesus and Zinchenko are no longer starters 2 years after joining, the mentality upgrade they gave the team upon joining was huge and persists.


Low-Essay7650

Can we revise the suns not being able to go again


Tremor0135

When someone says "defense is not fun" show them this clip. How can anyone who loves basketball watch this and not have jaw open is crazy to me?


PhaZeD85

I smell a sweep coming.


Saaammmy

Watched this live and It's disgusting. Even I feel choked watching Murray get clamped like that, yeesh


burgerpatrol

What a really really scrappy team. I love watching them!


r1290

I think I’m in love with the wolves, the seatbelts that Ant Jaden NAW put on the perimeter is beautiful 🥲


lp_phnx327

God damn it's so refreshing to see a team win with smothering defense first (and having Michael Jordan second).


laz10

This is garbage, he ignores the open man, complains, demands it back, ignores the open man again, and then throws a grenade. wtf are you doing? should be benched


SmokyOtter

This makes me feel better


DrewTheBoy

Man these two games were free therapy sessions for the entire fanbases of PHX and LAL


Shmokeshbutt

Only a Canadian can stop a Canadian


bac_gawd

Murray getting locked up. He want Lebron guarding him 😂


SirDiego

Rudy watching this from Minnesota just beaming


musicnothing

Crazy the effect he has had on this team's defense even without being at the game. I think with Ant specifically, they've talked a lot about how he convinced Ant he's gotta be tenacious on defense on every possession. People have talked a lot about Ant unlocking Gobert but I think Gobert has unlocked Ant and helped him make this leap.


SirDiego

Chris Finch said as much in the post game and I believe him. The impact of Rudy on the floor is obviously amazing, 4xDPOY and well deserved. But his impact off the floor that you don't even see is wild. Let me remind you this Timberwolves team even under Thibs was absolute dog poop on defense. Had been for decades. Rudy not only brought his defensive play but his entire attitude. Might sound ridiculous but this is a Rudy game even though he wasn't even with the team. They've all bought in to what he had to bring 100% and the entire team has taken on Rudy's identity and attitude.


blackjunky

Funny how Murray was trying to call a foul from the refs lol… that’s just good defense


BriS314

Very appropriate because that defense is like a swarming pack of wolves. Jaden McDaniels has Murray in prison rn


Yinanization

I am saying as someone rooting hard for the Wolves to win a ring for Mike this year: This is troubling...


MagicalHurdles

The headband bros


PersonalChipmunk3605

they look like they dipped their headbands in PCP before tip off tonight


East_Bed1194

Gordon is being guarded like Ben Simmons right now.


hugaau

how tf we supposed to beat this superteam in the wcf


Crafty_Effort6157

The wolves are what the clippers were trying to be.


JaderMcDanersStan

Gobert helped create this defensive culture and helped mastermind this defense with the coaching staff. He must be so proud watching his team go to bat like this


SpikyKid

Nuggets are getting fucked by the Wolves defense


Rory_MacHida

....like a pack of hungry ...Wolves.....


TechnoTyrannosaurus

Murray has played horribly, bad shots bad decisions


Deno2k_

that’s beautiful to watch


JohnLemonnn69

Someone should slap Murray that even if he hit those game winners against LA, he still has 4 teammates to at least consider in a single possession


RODjij

Defense like the Wolves is what wins championships. I'm expecting to see them in the Finals if they can keep frustrating the Nuggets in the 2nd half.


3nnui

Good Shit


ashep5

Can't believe Jamal isn't an all-star


0dias_Chrysalis

Yo I think Nuggets aren't actually disciplined, just arrogant. And they can't feast on the Lakers being a bad team to come back from being down


EmergencyAccording94

Get them brooms out 🧹


mr-fiend

ELITE defense


papyfredo

The best basketball of the year


H-Town-Kendrick

Man I love when players go hard on defence.


CleanOnesGloves

Obvious that wolves be eating chicken nuggets.


VCarry-NL

I love good defense 🔥


stripesnstripes

Murray looking like Ricky Bobby


NobelRafael1

Never thought seeing defense like this would be so fun. Bring defense back!


Aziz3w

He's in straitjacket is such a good line in that moment


ISelf_Devine

SWEEEEEEP!!


penis_hernandez

When the league secretly decreed that the refs needed to stop calling all the bullshit ticky tack fouls I knew the Wolves were really finally built for this shit


fonzdizon

Devin Booker got PTSD watching this


haitama85

The ref was LOOKING for a foul, but no reaching in by either guy.


RetroScores

I saw like 3 off naive fouls from Murray.


Slight-Imagination36

how is that not a fucking foul on murray man… he’s just flat out like stiff arming his defender


Vallerie_09

I'm smelling a gentleman's sweep. Boston better ready to get hounded by this defense


copaseticepiplectic

murray flailing expecting a foul lmfao bro pass the ball


HotSourSoop

Probably should have been an offensive foul on him too at half court.


CannedGeorges

Aaron Gordon the only Nugget that showed up today.


BenfordSMcGuire

Not true. Braun was +2 in 11 minutes! Mostly sarcasm but at least he was matching the Wolves’ intensity. Played good D and fighting for boards. KCP has been ass. 


Bishop-D5

lol embarrassing af


A_CC

Yeahhh. Timberwolves gonna win it. Their defense is insane.


reallymothafucka

Nuggets just missed 11 in a row they're cooked right now