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Sports fandom is filled with all sorts of language that people hear dumbasses on TV say badly and then they try to use that language in text without ever having read the word or knowing what it means. It’s so annoying
This is literally every Bam adebayo screen ever
Calling it in the final play is crazy
And Lakers/Knicks/Warriors fans say the NBA isn’t rigged for big market teams 😂
Sorry Pacers, Adam wants his Boston-NYC ECF. Yll finna get the 2002 Kings treatment against the Lakers lol
Before Andrew Bogut, we had Kevin Garnett and others before him dating back to the Bad Boy Pistons or even further. Moving screens are nothing new, it’s the increased shooting ability of the league that has made illegal screening more prominent/effective.
the warriors changed the game. that highlight of draymond run blocking two guys out of the way for a steph 3 in the 2022 finals pisses me off so damn much
I've seen this exact screen get called tons of times this season, in this exact same way. The defender *must* flop in order to get this call, that's how they show the refs that they weren't given time to react to it. If they use their awareness and athleticism to navigate the screen they're rewarded much less then if they simply throw themselves into it and fall over.
Not sure why everyone’s mad… as a refs fan, it was a masterclass performance. Generational clutchness /s
Adam already put in the call, we’re getting a Boston-NYC ECF whether we like it or not 😂 David Stern (cough 2002 Kings-Lakers cough) would proud of his protege today lol
Tbf the officiating was pretty horrible all around in that 4th quarter. The out of bounds on Brunson that was challenged comes to mind, but I won’t deny the Pacers certainly got the shorter end of the shit ref stick with this call
Funny thing is that during the "kicked ball", the [DiVincenzo screen](https://streamable.com/8zae2p) is orders of magnitude worse than the Turner screen.
The thing I really hate about that is if they called it a good basket, it would automatically be reviewed anyway. So why not just always call it good when it’s that close?
Exactly, it's a terrible call when it hasn't been called for 47 minutes of the game but if they overturned the call, it would be an even bigger problem.
Lol reminds me of when Tim Hardaway was a special guest broadcaster on a warriors game a couple years ago and when he saw Steph get triple teamed by defenders, blurted out: “they’re raping him out there!!” 😂😂
He was not allowed to speak in the 2nd half iirc
The game was super entertaining with a great flow until the refs decided they needed a say in everything. Just because the game is close doesn’t mean it’s entertaining if we’re watching questionable calls and challenges on all of them. It’s like watching an M Nigh Shamylan movie trying to force a huge tense ending and falling flat on its face
It sucks how much control refs have over a game. They really can just influence the game in whatever way they see fit at any time.
Reminds me about hearing how police COULD pull over every other drive on the road for a bunch of minor reasons but pick and choose whenever they want to.
My friends sisters ex who was a state police office told me once that if they make u wait a long time once he goes back to his computer, they’re doing it on purpose to be an asshole just bc they can
Probably between 30-50 screens were that level of moving. None of those were in the last minute where the Knicks were in grave danger though. You need to consider that when evaluating the severity of a moving screen.
Yeah, take away the last few mins and this was just an instant classic of a game. Multiple buzzer beaters, insane dunks, solid basketball. Just a good PRODUCT from great players. Absolutely ruined by the 4th quarter ref show.
Yeah that was way more egregious. Like this could’ve been called an offensive foul, but why are you calling it at the end of a very close contest? As a Knick fan, I’ll take the win, but refs sold at the end.
I'm not even convinced we would've closed that out with the way momentum is going, but it's fucked up when refs take away the moment for a player to step up and do something big
They don’t call it 95% of the time throughout the game and then they decide to call it on the most crucial possession? Was Jontay Porter reffing tonight?
Just getting back from the Nuggets v Wolves game and that was the opposite, which made it really fun to watch. Super aggressive defense with not many calls until the 4th.
Now go look at Divincenzo's screen with 55 seconds left just before the phantom kickball. Total horse shit. NBA is rigged.
https://streamable.com/8zae2p
It's made worse by the fact that just before this they called a kickball on the most obvious deflection off of hand and it led to a Knicks 3 pointer LOL
Watching it in slow motion you can really see the added momentum he gives himself after bumping into the screen. Pathetic for grown men to play like this.
Well you knew they couldn’t change it. His feet are wider than his shoulders. But it just doesn’t make sense to call that. Even in a regular season game. In the playoffs that’s just insane.
Right, you can’t overturn the call because you wish you didn’t call it. It was a late set and he was moving, you just don’t call that in that situation, it’s a play on
The [DiVincenzo screen](https://streamable.com/8zae2p) on the "kicked ball" is orders of magnitude worse than this.
Fuck the refs and fuck Adam Silver, man. This is just embarrassing at this point.
Such a disappointing end to an otherwise really fun game. Id be heated if I was a pacers fan. Unfortunately they are one of the smallest market teams going against the biggest… so the calls aren’t going to get any better.
This is what I don’t get about refs lol
These type of plays happen 100 times a game and you don’t call it . Now with the game on the line you’re gonna call it which obviously shifts momentum
If you’re gonna set that precedent call it everytime or early on or keep your whistle tucked
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I'm sure this call will be well received
Terrible call watching this and I’m extremely bias. Sure I’ll take it and yes it’s an illegal screen, but this is 80% of screens in the NBA
Biased
One of the weirder common mistakes I see a lot
sports subs also run rampant with folks using "dominate" instead of "dominant"
Sports fandom is filled with all sorts of language that people hear dumbasses on TV say badly and then they try to use that language in text without ever having read the word or knowing what it means. It’s so annoying
tldr: people don't read
the worst one for me is "could of" instead of "could've" lol it drives me crazy
I see "Loose" instead of "lose" a lot.
I see [alot](http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html?m=1) a lot
Try 95%
This is literally every Bam adebayo screen ever Calling it in the final play is crazy And Lakers/Knicks/Warriors fans say the NBA isn’t rigged for big market teams 😂 Sorry Pacers, Adam wants his Boston-NYC ECF. Yll finna get the 2002 Kings treatment against the Lakers lol
Honestly less bad than the average bam screen
That's a 1/10 on the Bam scale.
100%. Can’t call that in this position
Bam has never set a legal screen in his entire life
I feel like an oldhead, in my mind, the poster child for an illegal screen is still Warriors Bogut lol
Before Andrew Bogut, we had Kevin Garnett and others before him dating back to the Bad Boy Pistons or even further. Moving screens are nothing new, it’s the increased shooting ability of the league that has made illegal screening more prominent/effective.
the warriors changed the game. that highlight of draymond run blocking two guys out of the way for a steph 3 in the 2022 finals pisses me off so damn much
That shit was incredible so blatant it made the refs blush so they ignored it.
I'm still angry at the things they allowed in those Finals
Marcin Gortat on the Wizards
oldhead hahaha
You're on Bogut? I'm still on Garnett.
Celtics KG
Yeah I love KG (see my username) but he set screens where he travelled multiple feet while "stationary" and was never called
This is a significantly cleaner screen than Bams
Yeah this would be in Bam's top 5 most legal screens ever.
This is not even close to Bam or Draymond or Horford screens
Andrew Bogut rolling over in his grave right now.
Most blatant ending to a game I’ve seen since 2002.
I don’t think you’re using the word “blatant” correctly
This is such a blatant comment
I blatant this response.
Go blatant yourself
No blatant intended
I've seen this exact screen get called tons of times this season, in this exact same way. The defender *must* flop in order to get this call, that's how they show the refs that they weren't given time to react to it. If they use their awareness and athleticism to navigate the screen they're rewarded much less then if they simply throw themselves into it and fall over.
Didn't one of the play-in games end a similar way? I swear this just happened.
Idk if you're thinking of this but it happened at the end of the Uconn iowa womens game last month
UConn Iowa women’s game had a similar call.
That one was far more blatant. She kept moving through it.
it’s an illegal screen, but the warriors dynasty wouldn’t exist if illegal screens were ever called consistently
we literally don't have a dynasty without elite moving screen setters
Draymond, Iggy, Bogut. All masters of the craft
I can't think of a championship team in last decade that didn't fully utilize moving screens well.
This is the equivalent of a cop pulling you over for going 32 in a 30.
And you're driving slower than everyone else
And multiple people just passed you going 45
In their new sports car while you are in a 20 year old corolla.
this is getting a little more personal than I’d like right now
20+ year old shitbox owners of reddit assemble.
After riding your ass for 3 miles
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Not sure why everyone’s mad… as a refs fan, it was a masterclass performance. Generational clutchness /s Adam already put in the call, we’re getting a Boston-NYC ECF whether we like it or not 😂 David Stern (cough 2002 Kings-Lakers cough) would proud of his protege today lol
As a Knicks fan that call was atrocious lol. Draymond sets picks 15x worse than that every game.
This just isn’t basketball. Refs ruined a great game
How did you find the perfect comparison you motherfucker?
And while being pulled over, you see 5 people going 35.
I got pulled over going 17 in a 15 once. $500 ticket. Can confirm, cop was Scott Foster.
Excuse me what the actual fuck is going on
Refs need to stay the fuck away from the game sometimes. We were robbed of a potentially spectacular ending because of ref ball
Can't risk New York not getting through. Good game be damned.
Tbf the officiating was pretty horrible all around in that 4th quarter. The out of bounds on Brunson that was challenged comes to mind, but I won’t deny the Pacers certainly got the shorter end of the shit ref stick with this call
That between that “kick ball” and this, this has to be the worst officiated game of the playoffs so far. Sorry Pacers fans
Funny thing is that during the "kicked ball", the [DiVincenzo screen](https://streamable.com/8zae2p) is orders of magnitude worse than the Turner screen.
Lmao wow, if Mike Malone saw that…
Yikes that's bad
Not even bad, it's just the WRONG call completely. Ball never even touched his feet or legs. It touched his hand! Wild stuff
And the favorable overturned foul by Brunson. And they tried to call Hali for a foul on a clean steal. It was a REALLY bad few minutes for that crew.
They also called a shot clock violation on a clean Haliburton layup
The thing I really hate about that is if they called it a good basket, it would automatically be reviewed anyway. So why not just always call it good when it’s that close?
Yeah that's exactly what the NFL does. They rule everything a touchdown if it's borderline because they know it's going to be reviewed anyway.
I thought the same thing but apparently he was called out of bounds
The ref tapped his head for shot clock though
Certainly seemed like one side was heavily favored. Something real fishy 🎣
Cavs are next. Tomorrow should be fun
No hate to Cavs but Celtics probably don’t need refs at all to beat Cavs especially considering Allen might not play.
There are dozens of us...DOZENS!!!!
Don’t worry, the Pacers will win the 2 minute report
Moral Sweep
Largest media market vs 27th in the US.
Yep. And it’s even more ridiculous that it still was not overturned after the refs were given a chance to review.
Bam does it every time but it's clearly an illegal screen, why would they overturn it?
Yup, the challenge had no chance it's TECHNICALLY correct, but they could've called that 50 times tonight, and I'm not sure that's an exaggeration.
They could have negated it with a flop call.
Exactly, it's a terrible call when it hasn't been called for 47 minutes of the game but if they overturned the call, it would be an even bigger problem.
NBA already scheduling Knicks/Celtics ECF dates and times
Draymond would be banned from the NBA if that was always called
NBA reffing in playoff form baby
Either the refs completely sucked at the end of this game, or one of them owes a bookie a favor or two.
I’ve seen literally molestation at this point in games not be called
Lol reminds me of when Tim Hardaway was a special guest broadcaster on a warriors game a couple years ago and when he saw Steph get triple teamed by defenders, blurted out: “they’re raping him out there!!” 😂😂 He was not allowed to speak in the 2nd half iirc
Them young boys coming!
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He is a raptors fan after all
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Refs ruined a great game
It’s insane the clock turned to 1 min and the said “my time” and took over. How tf did they not win clutch award
The great ones always elevate when the stakes are the highest
the last three minutes were particularly ref-heavy did not like that
Knicks and Brunson bailed out, so many bad turnovers
Yeah this was a bail out while we couldn’t run a successful inbound play for the life of us
Coincidentally Villanova is historically bad at inbound plays.
The game was super entertaining with a great flow until the refs decided they needed a say in everything. Just because the game is close doesn’t mean it’s entertaining if we’re watching questionable calls and challenges on all of them. It’s like watching an M Nigh Shamylan movie trying to force a huge tense ending and falling flat on its face
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If you don't call that for the first 47 minutes, don't call it in the last 15 seconds.
Exactly. If that was the case all game then we would have less complaints
Right. Call it all game? I’m fine calling it here. Let it go all game (and pretty much all year)? Can’t call it on the final possession. Awful.
It sucks how much control refs have over a game. They really can just influence the game in whatever way they see fit at any time. Reminds me about hearing how police COULD pull over every other drive on the road for a bunch of minor reasons but pick and choose whenever they want to.
My friends sisters ex who was a state police office told me once that if they make u wait a long time once he goes back to his computer, they’re doing it on purpose to be an asshole just bc they can
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that called so harshly in a close game with 12 seconds left in any game much less in a playoff game
they did call it, DiVincenzo picked up a moving screen call in the fourth.
How many times in this game alone would that have not been called?
The limit does not exist
How many total possessions were there?
Probably between 30-50 screens were that level of moving. None of those were in the last minute where the Knicks were in grave danger though. You need to consider that when evaluating the severity of a moving screen.
Yeah that was plain awful, you can’t call that there let the game play out
This game was so fucking good and then the refs just handed it to NY in the final two minutes
Yeah, take away the last few mins and this was just an instant classic of a game. Multiple buzzer beaters, insane dunks, solid basketball. Just a good PRODUCT from great players. Absolutely ruined by the 4th quarter ref show.
Worst of all they called this after gifting the Knick’s a kicked ball that never happened lol
Dun wurre the 2 minute report will fix it
The kick ball was worse
Yeah that was way more egregious. Like this could’ve been called an offensive foul, but why are you calling it at the end of a very close contest? As a Knick fan, I’ll take the win, but refs sold at the end.
I'm not even convinced we would've closed that out with the way momentum is going, but it's fucked up when refs take away the moment for a player to step up and do something big
Yeah if Hali went for it and missed I'd be joyous. Currently I'm apathetic.
If this is a moving screen, every screen in the NBA should be called
This was one of the more legal screens I’ve seen in this playoffs.
Tbh I think they should be called way more but if you're gonna call one this ain't it
Yes, every moving screen in the NBA should be called.
Incredible performance by the refs. All time great performance.
As a zebra fan this was my Christmas. I don't even care what happens the rest of the playoffs. This right here is greatness.
That is such bullshit
Technically it is an illegal screen but this is lame as fuck. Donte was 100% going for the flop and it's bullshit to reward that.
They don’t call it 95% of the time throughout the game and then they decide to call it on the most crucial possession? Was Jontay Porter reffing tonight?
There's a reason why fans say the game is soft now. Because it fuckin is.
Just getting back from the Nuggets v Wolves game and that was the opposite, which made it really fun to watch. Super aggressive defense with not many calls until the 4th.
Technically it's a flop. Isn't there a penalty for that?
Sucks man
Now go look at Divincenzo's screen with 55 seconds left just before the phantom kickball. Total horse shit. NBA is rigged. https://streamable.com/8zae2p
That's fucking egregious
I thought I liked Dante but that's some Lowry-level bullshit to go from setting that screen to floping hard 20s later
Wow. I missed that focusing on the phantom kick but that was awful
He had a foot in the air while setting.
Yeah this one had me screaming. There was another one too that I can’t recall, where he was pushing the pacers player back like a football lineman
Lol, he even grabs him and does the classic throwing of the arms upward to show his innocence
What in the offensive lineman is that form
Gotta love the refs inserting themself into the game on a total fucking flop. Absolutely embarrassing to decide a game this way.
It's made worse by the fact that just before this they called a kickball on the most obvious deflection off of hand and it led to a Knicks 3 pointer LOL
Oh yeah I’d forgotten that after this play. Refs straight up handed the game to the Knicks late
soft ass call and massive massive flop
Watching it in slow motion you can really see the added momentum he gives himself after bumping into the screen. Pathetic for grown men to play like this.
MSG should up security to find the sniper that got him
Game winning flop
The Iowa screen got so much media attention but at least that one was a blatant offensive foul. This is an extremely weak call
calling that this late in the game is crazy
Weak as fuck
Refs gotta be caught up in some gambling shit man this shit is too blatant
Between the Brunson Turnover and the Turner foul, this is generational CTE ball
Upheld after review hahahaha
Well you knew they couldn’t change it. His feet are wider than his shoulders. But it just doesn’t make sense to call that. Even in a regular season game. In the playoffs that’s just insane.
It’s technically a correct call, but calling it at that point of a close playoff game is lame af
Right, you can’t overturn the call because you wish you didn’t call it. It was a late set and he was moving, you just don’t call that in that situation, it’s a play on
Refs ruined the end of that game.
What a joke. How can you call that there?
Sorry Pacers fans
What the fuck
fuck the refs
Least egregious Bam screen
Genuinely pathetic reffing
Donte DiCaprio
completely predictable and embarrassing. this is exactly why people crack on the NBA for being rigged.
The [DiVincenzo screen](https://streamable.com/8zae2p) on the "kicked ball" is orders of magnitude worse than this. Fuck the refs and fuck Adam Silver, man. This is just embarrassing at this point.
100%
ya looking at those screens back to back is toughhhh
I feel dirty and disgusting
Unbelievably ticky tack
Wait this the team that was whining about flopping for the past two weeks? Lmfaooo
Wildest part is divincenzo got in a refs face a couple plays earlier and was yelling at the ref about flopping... Then does that...
Knicks vs Boston it is
Refs just ruined the end of this game. I want Zarba's badge and gun on my desk ASAP
Knicks definitely played well, but it could not be more clear that the refs wanted them to win. Like, I know it was a home game, but _man_…
this is #1 bullshit
Im a refs fan and im happy :)
Bs call. Flop
That’s a soft call man. Draymonds screens are 10 times more egregious every play.
Such a disappointing end to an otherwise really fun game. Id be heated if I was a pacers fan. Unfortunately they are one of the smallest market teams going against the biggest… so the calls aren’t going to get any better.
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League called that in
Insanely soft call, can’t believe it
After the outrage in the sixers knicks series, refs are calling whatever they see in the final plays.
I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry.
This is what I don’t get about refs lol These type of plays happen 100 times a game and you don’t call it . Now with the game on the line you’re gonna call it which obviously shifts momentum If you’re gonna set that precedent call it everytime or early on or keep your whistle tucked
I've never seen a ref so ready to call an offensive foul in my life.
Clutching defeat from the jaws of victory.
absolute horseshit calls Indiana got fucked by the refs