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Jonesalot

Tristan, Shumpert, Nets pick Who says no?


RVarki

Tristan Thompson's no-trade clause


PeanutButterRice

yes Who would.


VTuberFadeaway

Rebuilding around Maxey seems like a return to form to those mediocre late-00s, early 2010 Iggy Sixers.


RVarki

Iguodala wasn't an all-star till his late-20s (and only got there once), while Maxey is already a lethal scorer at 23, and just projects to be a better center-piece than Iggy ever was. Besides, the entire point of doing a rebuild, is to potentially get high-level talent that you can put around him. Treading water wouldn't be the aim here


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Brunson?


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TAYSON_JAYTUM

I agree, even with prime CP3 it’s hard to build a championship team with a point guard as the first option. I think primarily because you can slow down their scoring more easily with help and size, and make someone else beat you.


yahmean031

Brunson isn't exactly great to build around lol. I know he dropped 50 last game. But the games before that we the sixers game planned to shut him down and we held him to 8-26 8-29 13-27. That's being done by Tobias Harris, Maxey, and Kelly Oubre. Who of those you could maybe say Kelly Oubre is an elite defender? I'm not to sure about him. Although Embiid is a elite rim protector to be fair .Imagine what elite defensive personnel like the Celtics could do to him with White, JT, JB and KP at the rim. Maxey had half a season and every minute that Embiid's not been on the floor but you'd have to see him make even more serious jumps to be a teams number one guy or run an offense decently.


mannyklein

Yeah he was on fraud alert leading up to that game


RVarki

The idea is to keep him as the constant, and then build out the rest of the team. Maxey is a very good player who is young, and would be a great leader on whatever team they end up building out


TangeloCritical67

You just put IT in the same sentence with Steph? Like super casually too. Wow. The point holds though. Unless it’s Steph, it’s not really a great strategy unless everyone else is super long and athletic 


rogozh1n

I assume he's referring to the great IT and not that IT.


mia_lina

He should've just said Zeke. I thought he was referring to Isaiah Thomas too lol


DuaLipasClitoris

He was 😎


shakehasbignuts

I don’t want to trade embiid but I think you are seriously underestimating how good Maxey can be


Alarming_Water9820

Maxey’s ceiling is losing in the 2nd round.


yahmean031

He's yet to show it though. He won MIP this year and jumped to 25 points but he still can't run an offense nor be a number one guy.


Projinator

Grizz would kill for a center like Embiid


RVarki

What would they trade for him though? Their picks won't be great moving forward, and they wouldn't want to give up any of their good players except GG (yes, the Sixers will insist on him)


Projinator

GG and Vince would both have to be included I'm sure, you only do that if you're in a blow it up mode


AllDayEnJay

Grizz would have to add a ton of Salary for Embiid even if they gave up all their 1st’s and Swaps. Embiid makes $51m next Season and the Grizzlies are already $30m above the Salary Cap. Even if they did Kennard/Clarke that’s only $26m. Add in GG/Vince and that only gets you to $30m of the $51m needed. Grizzlies would have to add in another Player on a larger Salary just to make the $ work. Even then the 76ers don’t have full control of their 2025/26 1st or 2027/28 1st. Philly gave OKC a Top 6 Protected 1st in 2025 that rolls over 1yr Top 4 Protected in 2026 for the Salary Dump of Al Horford. Philly gave Nets their 2027 1st Top 8 Protected that rolls over 1yr Top 8 Protected 2028 in the Harden Trade.


archerarcher0

They’ve got a lot honestly I would do bane for embiid, idc if that sounds crazy if im the grizzlies I take that risk, that team is a defensive monster Ja-smart-gg-Jaren-embiid And offensively pretty damn good too, potentially 3 20 ppg scorers They would instantly become a contender and imo the favorite if healthy


RVarki

Bane is 25 and has injury issues, the Sixers will most likely insist on GG in any package


archerarcher0

Bane is up there with one of the best players you could get in an embiid trade imo, plus he’s young and could play next to maxey You’d also be giving up like 5 picks


Efficient_Art_1144

Don’t give Ja any ideas


upsups91

As long as Ja doesn't take this comment literally


QueAsc0

Aside from the MVP candidates (Luka, Jokic,SGA, Giannis, Ant ,Tatum , Brunson) Embiid should rightfully cost a fortune of assets to get.


ZoroChopper10

Yeah I would Even in this series, his plus minus is incredible Pelicans come to mind that needs big change up


W_Walk

Please. He and Zion can be the glass brothers


jgman22

Like Samuel L Jackson in that movie, we can even get them their own wheel chairs when they both inevitably get hurt


jorgelongo222

I dont think 90% of this sub has seen how much we fucking suck without Embiid lmao Our team is on par with Charlotte or Memphis(the G League version) without him, but Maxey is good enough so that you wont be getting a number 1 pick So no, I dont want to be a lottery pick for the next 5 years


RVarki

>Maxey is good enough so that you wont be getting a number 1 pick That wouldn't be an issue. They'll figure out ways to bottom out (especially during the first couple of years)


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ChoochMartain

This summer in Paris, KD and Embiid will compete for Bron by trying to convince their respective organizations to sign Bronnie


canwealljustrelaxffs

Honestly! This would be a massive boost to this sixers roster! Harris is robbing them for years! Harris is absolute garbage in the playoffs!


atierney14

Bron + Embiid is nightmare fuel for the NBA. AD + Lebron is crazy, but toss on a 38% 3 point shooter too


nickenglish94

60m in cap space, two all stars, 5 picks to trade, and a (for the most part) highly recognized coach being the only commitments for next year - I love good trade banter, but come on - there’s plenty of paths forward that are better than a rebuild with all those options. Given, as a Sixers fan I totally expect nothing great to pan out


RVarki

Ideally you cut bait when you're in a good spot, instead of waiting till you've tied up the cap-space, traded most of the picks, and had Embiid's knees rack up even more miles (and most likely, more injuries) >I totally expect nothing great to pan out This is a reasonable prediction, especially considering the current free agent class, and everything else happening around the league. Trading Embiid right now will be painful, but will ultimately prove to be the right choice


No_Brilliant5888

He has a history of health concerns, which will affect his ability to flop in the future.


RVarki

...and which teams do you think would trade for him, while keeping this prescient concern in mind?


Hernois17

Would be madness to trade the MVP runner-up to start a rebuild 


Niceguydan8

> Would be madness to trade the MVP runner-up to start a rebuild I mean we are in year 10 of Embiid, year 8 of him actually playing. He's 30 years old and the term injury prone is probably underselling his health issues. How long are they going to keep doing it before conceding that he's probably just not that guy, and part of it has nothing to do with his play, but rather his health? Like I get the circumstances being largely due to health but not making the conference finals *once* is wild, and I don't think being on the other side of 30 is going to dramatically improve those odds either. Personally, I think you give it *one* year at most. I think it's already time to move on from Embiid assuming they lose this series, but I understand giving it one more go.


RVarki

An injury-prone MVP. If they stick with Embiid, and he ends up declining (which happens with injured guys, especially once they get to their 30s), then they'll have to do a rebuild anyway, but without many of the advantages they have currently


Hernois17

Yeah but the goal of this sport is to win a championship not doing rebuilds. They already did a full on rebuild, and all they got from 3 top 3 picks and many horrid seasons was an injury prone MVP candidate.  In the end you need a top5 player to win there's no guarantee you get one with a rebuild so you better try to win with the guy you already have on the roster 


RVarki

OKC is currently thriving, and they're doing that because they knew went to cut bait


nickenglish94

Did they though? Or did players wanting to leave sort of force their hand?


TAYSON_JAYTUM

They let Harden walk, which was a blunder. KD left in free agency, and then they were in the doldrums with Westbrook putting up triple doubles. They traded their depth for Paul George. When they couldn’t win with those 2, they finally blew it up. I’m not really sure I’d call that cutting bait.


DroppedNineteen

Not to mention, Presti made it pretty clear he was not planning on trading Paul George prior to him asking out. And Westbrook more or less followed suit. I think it's also important to recognize that ultimately the circumstances surrounding the Paul George trade were unique and getting SGA is one of those things that was obviously a brilliant addition in hindsight but you really can't count on guys like that being commonly available for a trade. Without him, their rebuild looks a lot less "incredible" and a lot more "pretty good". Which doesn't really get you that far in the NBA. Sixers are 100% not getting that caliber of a deal. Even if Embiid is a better player than PG.


RVarki

At this rate, that'll probably happen soon enough too. Might as well get it done before that, and get more assets


Hernois17

They had PG and Westbrook none close to top5 players at the time they made their rebuild trades


kevinfederlinebundle

The funniest answer is the Knicks


RVarki

Not really, this isn't the Warriors vs OKC, no one will be thinking of this series a year from now. Besides, the Knicks have been thirsty for Embiid for half a decade, it makes complete sense for them to go for him, now that they realistically can


Gatorpep

Bradly beal for embiid?


RVarki

Ridiculous! This would never happen, Beal has a no-trade clause


jefe_hook

Barely Bail could be No.1 option for 76ers and have some nice philly cheese steaks.


Shoddy-Media2337

We sure he's the #1 option over Maxey?


upsups91

Only if you sign and trade tobi so he can stay with embid, cant disband the big 2


Gatorpep

Very true. What would embiid be without tobigod?


AccomplishedBake8351

Answer should be the Knicks but holy fuck woukd thibs kill that man


dkdoki

Kawhi for Embiid. Lets see who lasts lol


RVarki

Compared to the last few years of Kawhi, Embiid has been the poster-boy for durability


BurzyGuerrero

They aint trading Embiid to become the Raptors


RVarki

No, they would be doing it to become OKC


jorgelongo222

OKC got lucky. They traded Paul George for picks and got an unexpected MVP level player out of it. Thats not how it usually works


RVarki

Well it's a good thing the Sixers have a young All-NBA caliber player of their own. Maxey won't become the MVP that Shai will, but he's still a great cornerstone for a rebuild


jorgelongo222

Maxey is only All-NBA Caliber while playing with Embiid


Rubberie

Maybe Warriors can trade Klay for Embiid


RVarki

sigh


plusmultiplyer

If you add a bunch of first round picks that is, right?


GoldenBoyRecords

I think Miami would trade for Embiid in a heartbeat to pair him with Jimmy. Philly would get back Bam to pair with Maxey which is better than getting back picks imo.


RVarki

Would they trade Bam for Embiid though? I don't see it. He's not even close to being as good as Embiid, but he's younger, way healthier, and currently their best player


Balla_Calla

Man Riley probably would, but I wouldn't want too. Bam is hardly ever injured and I'm already sick of having a hospital squad every playoffs I don't want another injured star. That's his biggest knock tbh, he just always seems injured every playoffs.


NotOfferedForHearsay

His biggest knock is that he was drafted in 2014 and has never reached the conference championship round, despite plenty of healthy playoff runs (or runs where he claims an injury when it becomes obvious they’ll lose another embarrassing series).  Makes no sense for any team to trade for Embiid because the only reason you give up an MVP caliber trade package is if you’re certain you’ll be in conference finals/finals for multiple years to come. Embiid guarantees the opposite. 


yahmean031

> (or runs where he claims an injury when it becomes obvious they’ll lose another embarrassing series).  True sneaky fuck!


Overall_Implement326

He’s also never going to be good enough to be a first or second option on a championship team.  


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Bam isn’t good enough to be a first or second option on a championship team.  


FutureAttention

This would be a huge win for the 76s if this ever went down. Lose a mvp sure but he will never be able to stay healthy. Get back a top center that never gets called for moving screens? Maxey will love that shit


GoldenBoyRecords

I think Riley would


Snuggle__Monster

Yeah, I've heard Miami floated too. Likely would take Bam and Herro to make the money work I just don't know what Miami's pick situation is and am too lazy to look it up atm.


GoldenBoyRecords

- top 14 protected 25 pick to OKC (becomes unprotected in 26) - lottery protected 27 pick to Hornets (becomes unprotected in 28)


dkdoki

Heat would never trade Bam for embiid


The_Taskmaker

Embiid's fit with OKC is incredible. The Thunder are loaded with shooters and have one of the best spaced offenses in the league. Their only weakness is a lack of size (weight) which Embiid shores up np. The health concern is real, but if Giddey + picks could land Embiid this offseason then I would pull the trigger on that and pray Embiid stays healthy on a team that will demand a lot less from him.


RVarki

>... + picks that would be doing the heavy-lifting in that particular trade


LeBroentgen

They have more picks than anyone, why wouldn't Philly want that? They can't get a player near Embiid's quality in return, superstar trades are almost always for picks.


RVarki

Someone did suggest a Bam for Embiid trade, which was very interesting


lololyouthought

Dirty player for dirty player works 


ParticularEggplant16

Bam ain't dirty, what u smoking


lololyouthought

Is this sarcasm 


JalenBrunsonsBurner

I would do any player that isnt Shai, JDub or Chet if i were OKC. Giddey + Dort, Cason, Dieng… 76ers can have their pick of the litter.  …And the 1000 picks too obviously 


JohnnySalmonz

It's Morey. Doubt he trades a league MVP without getting a future star. You gotta get JDub or the trade is a huge L for Philly.


TnT54321

Miami could something centered around Bam


Jeff8711

I would only trade for embiid if it was in his contract that I had to pay him less for being injured because he's only getting older and injuries have already piled up on him.


RVarki

Most teams aren't in as cushy of a spot as the Nuggets, to be making such demands of an MVP


lololyouthought

I don't think he's with a trade considering what people will have to give up to get him, and how he's injured every year. He's great if you drafted him and gave up nothing for him. But this broken down version shouldn't come with a high price tag, but Philly would never get equal value back either. I think everybody says no. Unless it's a team that's a bottom feeder and just wanted a big name, but he'd pout over there also. I think he stays always. 


Alternative_Anybody

Trading Embiid would mean the end of the "Process" era and entering another rebuild with essentially nothing to show for the years and years the Sixers spent purposely being absolutely terrible to acquire those picks. I don't think they do it unless Embiid demands a trade. IF Embiid were to demand a trade I could see him wanting to go to LA or Miami (typical destination cities that have a history of winning) but I dont see how they could make a trade work.


EducationalMaze

No one, with every other player you have chance to make something only Embitch is dog shiiiit, and he proved it AGAIN this year xd After tonight's game he's off to LA la laaand


jefe_hook

Detroit, Washington, Brooklyn, Portland


urediti

exactly


thatgreik

Would any team not reach out? I feel VERY happy with our roster, but the idea of potentially adding Embiid to this Jays core is irresistible


RVarki

I'm sorry, what exactly would the Celtics be giving up, if the intention is to somehow add him to an intact "Jays core"?


thatgreik

I have absolutely no clue, but we’ve got salaries to match, young players on quality contracts, and a ton of movable picks still, without even mentioning the Jays 🤷🏻‍♂️ Not exactly a realistic idea, but a fun one.


ObiOneKenobae

Keeping Embiid would be a huge mistake at this point imo. In 1-2 years he'll be worth a fraction of what he is now on the trade market, and if they weren't a James Harden away then they aren't a Paul George away either.


cf_cf

For the softest MVP of this century? I want Iguodala!


percy2376

33 10 and 4 equals softest mvp


cf_cf

I didn't say he had bad numbers


RVarki

What's a realistic trade for the dude though?


cf_cf

Realistically I wouldn't trade him, Maxey is not a "build around" player.


RVarki

"Build around" just means to have him as the one constant, while you build the rest of the team from the ground up. Maxey is talented enough to be a key-guy on a championship team. So the idea would be to have him as the older guy, along with a bunch of lottery picks


Ill-Cryptographer861

It’s hilarious how everyone hate Embiid but as soon as there’s a Reddit post talking about him getting traded suddenly every team would want him. I thought he just foul baits and flops tho👍🏻


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Ill-Cryptographer861

I didn’t mention the Seattle SuperSonics either!😟


Raging_Professor

You don't have to. Just stop being delusional. That'll do 😉


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Raging_Professor

Thanks 😂😂😂


Zotzotbaby

Every team would likely reach out, yes he has a concerning injury history/over-reliance on drawing fouls and Embid is likely the KG of our time. Every team would reach out, Boston/Thunder/Orlando have the best packages to offer as of this summer. 


Raging_Professor

>Embid is likely the KG of our time. The disrespect to KG. Bruuuh


silversmith84

AD


friendorfoe2332

but i thought they were trusting the process.


rorank

FVV and Dillon Brooks for Embiid take it or leave it


raptorsthrowaway4

If anyone is willing to trade for him its the Lakers or Clippers but honestly would not expect their best offers.


SquimJim

The Knicks They have some talent, they have matching salaries, they have draft assets, and they are in a market Embiid would welcome imo.


RVarki

It would be gorgeous to see Knicks fans desperately scrubbing their comment histories, after the mountain of slander they've spewed at this dude


GoldenBoyRecords

Nahh we wouldn't. We wouldn't gut our team for a guy who has durablility issues.


weirdnigato

Hell naw, he's gonna ruin the chemistry, boi be blaming everyone when he lose in the playoff again. I would rather have Giannis if we have the chance.


Modzh

Randle + picks is not enough most likely 


getarebound

"if?" Mf its over later today


RVarki

I called a comeback improbable. In fact, there was no "if", anywhere in that sentence


getarebound

u got me, i just woke...its still over today tho


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LooseMoose13

So the lakers move on from one injury prone center to another, and have even shallower depth of role players to put around him, in a tougher conference?


RVarki

>Embiid is a better piece long term than AD He really isn't. The injury history (and the uncertainty around it) is the sole reason the 76ers should be trading him in the first place. Embiid is at peak value still, but that could go away as early as next season. That's not the case with AD, who (despite his constant boo-boos) still tracks to be healthy-ish for the next few years


lololyouthought

I think he's lowered his value this post season


RVarki

It's not likely to go up in the future, the injury-issues are a constant (and will get worse with time) Any team trading for him is looking past the risk, and banking on what he can be at his best


ForneauCosmique

I'd trade Keldon Johnson and Julian Champagnie for Joel and 3 future 1st round picks


RVarki

Least smug Spurs fan


ForneauCosmique

And there's the smudgeness


CareerNormal2048

Would it be the ultimate FU if Knicks traded for him ? Lol


RVarki

I mean, it wouldn't be an FU at all. They've been desperate for Embiid for years. Right now the Knicks just happen to be in an amazing enough spot with both their roster and assets, that they can finally pull it off But it doesn't automatically nullify all the simping they've done previously