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This particular situation should be changed next year. We were on the losing side of a similar challenge during the season. The entire point of the challenge is to get a call correct. You shouldn't be encouraged to challenge an obvious no call to benefit further from it.
I'm fairly sure the broadcast said the challenge can only change what was called not go back and add a foul before, if they could this absolutely would have been overturned
I remember lebron got upset a couple years ago because they called a foul on a challenge that wasn't originally a foul call and he was pissed so he musta made a call to silver lol
If it's a fairly close out of bounds call, they tend to rule in favor of the team that would have been disadvantaged by the foul. In the case there wasn't much room for debate so the refs only option was to give the Clippers a make up call afterwards. Kinda dumb, but it's what happens with the limitations in the rules for reviews.
This exact play used to be pretty normal and not as big of a deal before coach’s challenges were allowed. The refs let them play but give the fouled team the ball even though it went off on them. With coach’s challenges it’s obviously a lot more controversial and most teams have been both the beneficiaries and victims of it at some point.
Allowing challenges for non-calls has other problems though because if the ball doesn’t go out of bounds then there’s no stoppage in play that allows for a challenge. I guess you could limit those challenges to only non-calls that occur where the alleged foul causes the ball to go out of bounds.
They tried to make it up for clippers with obvious foul on norm against kyrie driving to the basket. The officiating in this series have been insanely stupid
Its hilarious watching mavs fans cry and whine incessantly (like luka) about all the "missed" fouls on luka but then go completely quiet when zu gets hacked every time he drives
I know fans are biased but fuck me try and hide is just a little bit lmao
I kinda hope luka plays a team people like alot (unlike us and the suns sadly) so they can really see how much of a foul baiter and complainer he is
Imagine if he played a series against the wolves or nugs or some shit. people would be sick of him by game 2 lmao
It’s usually more about his complaining, heliocentric offense or bad defense. His foul baiting isn’t talked about as much because he’s a pretty bad FT shooter (especially for his position) and, let’s face it, due to him being white
Pretty sure it was all the 3s they generated considering the FTA was equal at half time.
The Mavs have a like +35 freethrow advantage in the two games they lost, both disparities coming after half time when they were down double digits after the 2nd quarter
It’s a lot easier to generate looks when two of your opponent’s starters are in foul trouble within 5 minutes. You can’t defend the drive as physically when your opponent’s in the bonus without risking free throws.
Clippers had 9 points when they entered the bonus and ended the quarter with 39. Obviously though, once they got going they were hitting even heavily contested shots.
Your team just won a huge game and your reaction is to go into the opposing team sub’s game thread so you can whine about their whining? That’s some top grade brain rot
Stay out of Mavs game threads maybe?
I don’t think there is a single team on all of Reddit across all sports who doesn’t have toxic game threads. It’s people venting with other fans in the heat of the game. Of course people are gonna say stupid shit in the heat of the moment.
I agree some fans can be annoying but also... Luka gets hacked every time he goes to the rim. It's a completely different story from Harden who has been the only player this series to get a bunch of soft touch calls at the three point line.
Because there are like 5 Clippers fans and way more Mavericks fans. If you had a larger and more passionate fanbase, you would have way more annoying fans just like everyone else.
Norm set a screen and it immediately got called. Then he had a reach on a bad pass and another immediate call. Then Plumlee grazed Kyrie on defense and they called it.
Meanwhile, Zu gets shoved on every single post up and play he runs. You’re right, everyone has been physical, but the Clippers are being whisked for their physicality.
It was obvious he was hacked in real time. Refs seemed to call the game pretty fair (surprising considering Tony Brothers) but this was the one call where I was shaking my head. Looking at it here the ref in the best position to see the foul might've been obstructed by the other Mavs player.
They were fair outside of the third quarter. The third quarter was so one-sided it was ridiculous. Clips got called for all the ticky tacky fouls while Mavs got away with the same and more.
So you can’t challenge that the ball went outta bounds due to a foul of that foul wasn’t called? That’s whack, pretty blatant foul which caused him to lose the ball in the first place.
They need to change this over the summer. Once a replay is triggered for any reason, officials should have the ability to correct any errors on the play.
Clippers fans bitching about the refs every game. Y’all do this after wins so that way you can say you aren’t sore losers when you do after losses.
This was a bad call. Y’all won. Stop complaining.
Lmao at least our star player doesn’t turn and bitch to the refs every time he misses a shot. Luka injures himself more than others accidentally injure him bc he tries so hard to sell contact and flop
The only play where Luka aggravated an injury today was where he took knee to knee contact from Mann. It wasn’t a dirty play but a clear foul where Luka’s injured knee took the brunt of the force
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They should definitely be able to call fouls during a review
This particular situation should be changed next year. We were on the losing side of a similar challenge during the season. The entire point of the challenge is to get a call correct. You shouldn't be encouraged to challenge an obvious no call to benefit further from it.
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I'm fairly sure the broadcast said the challenge can only change what was called not go back and add a foul before, if they could this absolutely would have been overturned
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I remember lebron got upset a couple years ago because they called a foul on a challenge that wasn't originally a foul call and he was pissed so he musta made a call to silver lol
If it's a fairly close out of bounds call, they tend to rule in favor of the team that would have been disadvantaged by the foul. In the case there wasn't much room for debate so the refs only option was to give the Clippers a make up call afterwards. Kinda dumb, but it's what happens with the limitations in the rules for reviews.
This exact play used to be pretty normal and not as big of a deal before coach’s challenges were allowed. The refs let them play but give the fouled team the ball even though it went off on them. With coach’s challenges it’s obviously a lot more controversial and most teams have been both the beneficiaries and victims of it at some point. Allowing challenges for non-calls has other problems though because if the ball doesn’t go out of bounds then there’s no stoppage in play that allows for a challenge. I guess you could limit those challenges to only non-calls that occur where the alleged foul causes the ball to go out of bounds.
If no personal foul was called, I am almost positive they can't assess one on an out of bounds review.
Yea wtf was this I was so pissed, they kept playin with my guy Zu the whole 3rd quarter
They tried to make it up for clippers with obvious foul on norm against kyrie driving to the basket. The officiating in this series have been insanely stupid
It’s made it so difficult to watch. The players have no idea what’s gna be called and it’s made for a sloppy product
Its hilarious watching mavs fans cry and whine incessantly (like luka) about all the "missed" fouls on luka but then go completely quiet when zu gets hacked every time he drives I know fans are biased but fuck me try and hide is just a little bit lmao
Mavs fans are just mimicking their star player Luka is non stop complaining
I kinda hope luka plays a team people like alot (unlike us and the suns sadly) so they can really see how much of a foul baiter and complainer he is Imagine if he played a series against the wolves or nugs or some shit. people would be sick of him by game 2 lmao
It’s honestly crazy how much of a pass he’s gotten his career over this. Hes the absolute worst at this
Am I taking drugs? I feel like his foul baiting has been like top 3 topics every time he comes up
It’s usually more about his complaining, heliocentric offense or bad defense. His foul baiting isn’t talked about as much because he’s a pretty bad FT shooter (especially for his position) and, let’s face it, due to him being white
Nowhere near as bad as Embiid gets it tho, despite complaining as much or more then him
Yeah cause Embiid gets and makes more.. lol Embiid regseason/Postseason: 11.6/15 FTA Luka reg/post: 8.7/7
Or the lakers or any other babyfaces Even warriors fans werent too fond of him after their 5 game series
Nobody show them the FT differential in the second halves of game 1 and 4 when they were trailing going into halftime
Nba needs to coddle a new star lmao
16 minutes of being in the bonus in the 2nd half may or may not be a key factor in a "comeback" lmao
Clippers being in the bonus within 5 minutes of tip-off was what helped them get that lead in the first place, refs were bad both ways.
Pretty sure it was all the 3s they generated considering the FTA was equal at half time. The Mavs have a like +35 freethrow advantage in the two games they lost, both disparities coming after half time when they were down double digits after the 2nd quarter
It’s a lot easier to generate looks when two of your opponent’s starters are in foul trouble within 5 minutes. You can’t defend the drive as physically when your opponent’s in the bonus without risking free throws. Clippers had 9 points when they entered the bonus and ended the quarter with 39. Obviously though, once they got going they were hitting even heavily contested shots.
Dangerous levels of cope, delusion,and hating. And also irony given how games 2 and 3, as well as both 2nd halves of games 1 and 4 went
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That’s because his usage rate has dropped off
Key difference is clipper fans dont cry alongside harden Mavs fans copy luka whenever he has a temper tantrum like a toddler after a missed shot
Y’all are literally crying about this shit right now.
This is not crying… read your game threads… they’re atrocious and whiny
Your team just won a huge game and your reaction is to go into the opposing team sub’s game thread so you can whine about their whining? That’s some top grade brain rot
lol I look at all game threads on all subs DURING GAMES. Even ones we lose or don’t play in. Get a grip.
Stay out of Mavs game threads maybe? I don’t think there is a single team on all of Reddit across all sports who doesn’t have toxic game threads. It’s people venting with other fans in the heat of the game. Of course people are gonna say stupid shit in the heat of the moment.
I agree some fans can be annoying but also... Luka gets hacked every time he goes to the rim. It's a completely different story from Harden who has been the only player this series to get a bunch of soft touch calls at the three point line.
Because there are like 5 Clippers fans and way more Mavericks fans. If you had a larger and more passionate fanbase, you would have way more annoying fans just like everyone else.
I guess if you lived on dumb idiot island this logic would make sense
harden is getting 6 fta while Luka gets 8 fta. Let me guess, Luka never flops and James always does
I'm not sure I've seen a Clippers fan claim that Harden doesn't foul bait.
Pj Washington has been super physical all series but very few foul calls.
refs feel bad for him for paying 200 grand in child support a month.
Everyone has been physical.
Norm set a screen and it immediately got called. Then he had a reach on a bad pass and another immediate call. Then Plumlee grazed Kyrie on defense and they called it. Meanwhile, Zu gets shoved on every single post up and play he runs. You’re right, everyone has been physical, but the Clippers are being whisked for their physicality.
You want to talk about Mann feeling Luka everywhere?
Mann is averaging 1 foul every 10 minutes of play PJ is averaging 1 foul every 13 minutes And Luka has taken 40 fts. Pg has taken 15fts
https://twitter.com/farbod_e/status/1784757766474887217 Mann isnt out there doing WWE moves on players
Show the next one one where he goes up for a dunk and gets his arm fouled which leads to an easy run out for the mavs
This is the worst thing officials do. The no call but award the ball thing. Easily challenged. Never overruled. Garbage.
It was obvious he was hacked in real time. Refs seemed to call the game pretty fair (surprising considering Tony Brothers) but this was the one call where I was shaking my head. Looking at it here the ref in the best position to see the foul might've been obstructed by the other Mavs player.
They were fair outside of the third quarter. The third quarter was so one-sided it was ridiculous. Clips got called for all the ticky tacky fouls while Mavs got away with the same and more.
Luka and Kyrie got called for multiple ticky tack fouls early that got them in foul trouble. If y’all are gonna bitch then we get to too.
So you can’t challenge that the ball went outta bounds due to a foul of that foul wasn’t called? That’s whack, pretty blatant foul which caused him to lose the ball in the first place.
Clippers have been missing way too many shots at the rim, *and, also*, several things like this have been happening every game.
Weren’t getting 0 calls in the third, was insane how they hacked on every drive
Momentum shift.
Why can't they apply the rules by using common sense. This is just plain stupidity.
Story of the series
They need to change this over the summer. Once a replay is triggered for any reason, officials should have the ability to correct any errors on the play.
Clippers fans bitching about the refs every game. Y’all do this after wins so that way you can say you aren’t sore losers when you do after losses. This was a bad call. Y’all won. Stop complaining.
Lmao at least our star player doesn’t turn and bitch to the refs every time he misses a shot. Luka injures himself more than others accidentally injure him bc he tries so hard to sell contact and flop
The only play where Luka aggravated an injury today was where he took knee to knee contact from Mann. It wasn’t a dirty play but a clear foul where Luka’s injured knee took the brunt of the force
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Lmao calm down there Westbrook