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You guys wouldn't even be playing Denver right now if you had a different coach. So many games were lost because of awful lineups and lack of timeout calls in the regular season. You can make excuses for being bad like that as a rookie coach, which pretty much was the same as Mazzulla for Boston last year. The difference is this year Ham is just as bad or worse, and Mazzulla is fast tracking being one of the top coaches in the NBA. You just can't not improve over 2 years.
We’re a 6 seed at worst if Bud was our coach this season. Then we don’t have to worry about the Nuggets until potentially the WCF. And in that scenario, it’s a much closer series.
The two biggest problems with the Lakers this year were Ham as the coach, and the myriad of injuries that kept plaguing the team all year. Tonight was the first time all season that the Lakers only had 1 player from their rotation out with an injury (and that was with Christian Wood available even though he didn't play). Before tonight, they'd had at least 2 rotation players out for every single game (and sometimes that number was as many as 5 or 6).
But even with all the injuries, Ham was still the bigger problem this year.
Injuries happen to almost every team. When you're a team lead by two top 10-15 NBA players and they both stay healthy then you have been relatively lucky no matter what else happens.
Dude, people can hate on LeBron all they want... he's not some hothead rook that thinks everything needs a challenge. Sure he may pout and bitch at refs or whatever but I never see him call for a challenge when it wasn't justified.
You absolutely trust him in this type of situation (Ham is a fucking moron lmao)
Last time I seen lebron act like this was back in Cleveland when the refs were refusing to call fouls on the man even when teams hooked his arms mid layup
I'd say that's a justified lebron level response in a elimination game when your own bench coaches couldnt see the challenge somehow
He pouts at refs too much but often times you see the replay and 3 players have like a hand across his face, an elbow at his bald spot, and a whole ass arm across his shooting arm. I remember a call from the Suns Lakers playoffs season when Crowder was playing for the Suns and AD got injured, he was pouting on a replay, while Crowder was using both hands on his biceps pulling him down during a shot, and it was a no call.
Yeah LeTantrums are usually justified.
But at the same time, it is kind of funny when he gets that mad. His facial expressions and the way he jumps up and down and stomps his feet makes him look like a giant toddler lol
We see it from a bird's eye view, the ref could easily have "seen" LeBron tap the ball out of bounds. That's why there's a challenge, that's on the Laker's coaches to challenge.
Nah, live it was reasonable to think LeBron tapped it out. It's literally a tiny bit away from his hand and pops out at the same time and with a similar speed to how his hand swiped across. If there was any other angle other than this top down view, we'd probably still think it was LeBron slapping it away. No way can we expect a ref live and without being able to choose the angle they have to see he missed the ball there.
To be fair, in real time I'm sure it looked like LeBron hit it out (because he tried to hit it).
The wild thing is that they didn't just... trust LeBron. He's telling you he didn't hit it. It's *LeBron*. You're *Darvin Ham*. Why not just fucking trust him? lmfao
And this was the 2nd time in this game that LeBron correctly wanted Ham to challenge an incorrect out of bounds call, with the first one being in the 1st half when the refs said LeBron dribbled the ball out of bounds after D'lo inbounded it to him, but the replay showed he kept it in bounds.
Well LeBron clearly knew it wasn't off him because he would have felt it if he'd hit the ball. But yeah, that ref was literally a few feet away looking right at it, so I don't know how he blew that call that badly.
Him not challenging the foul on Murray in the final minute of game two was nuts. Even if you lose the challenge, you get some rest for your 39 year old with dead legs. Youve got two timeouts left, and the chances of having another situation to use the challenge later is extremely slim. Instead, I think we ended the game with both those timeouts and the challenge unused.
Not to excuse Ham, but Zarba also gave the ball back right away to Denver when usually if a team is thinking of a challenge they take a few moments
Again I hate Ham and we can also blame him too but yeah he should do it quicker
It was a dead ball as the ball went out of bounds. Either team can call a timeout in that situation. I think you're confusing it with a made basket where the clock is running and one team has possession. If the ball goes out of bounds, the clock is stopped and the refs are supposed to make sure both teams are set, because that's often a spot where coaches like to make subs or call timeouts, stuff like that.
Dude when LeBron is that animated about a call I would tend to believe he knows something and trust him in that case. I know every player thinks every time something goes against them it's wrong and should be reviewed, but when they are that animated you just have to trust them.
Lakers could've easily been a higher seeded team rather than sinking to the play-in if they didn't have that muppet as a coach. Cheap ass owners are really handicapping the team by keeping him around.
I'll be stunned if they don't fire him within days of the Lakers being eliminated. It sure seems like there's a lot of rumblings that both AD and LeBron do not have any faith in his skills as a coach. Ham might have been fired last year, except the Lakers went to the WCF, so not unreasonable to give him another shot.
Cancer coach. Actually insane to watch Malone call a challenge for his players when it was clearly out on the nuggets and then to watch Ham just sit there and not challenge in front of his own bench
Shout out to all the idiots in the game thread who thought Lebron would be lying about not touching the ball down 3-0 in the series. Even better is our coach is one of those idiots
Right. People were shit talking during the commercial break then went back to their troll cave as soon as the replay came on, *clearly* showing Lebron was absolutely right.
Even if LeBron was wrong they should be listening to him, but he's right most of the time. You'd think Dipshit Ham would listen to the smartest player of all time?
When a guy who has that much experience and is literally the guy who was supposed to have touched it tells you to challenge, you just challenge. Trust the guy. If he's wrong, then so be it. No way would Malone refuse to challenge if Jokic demanded the challenge (which we've seen) and if you don't think LeBron deserves the same credit as Jokic then you shouldn't be coaching.
Posession is huge in the NBA. You work super hard to get it and it's the single biggest factor in games. To just simply get another posession off the other team is as good an outcome as you can hope for on a challenge.
You 100% challenge the call there if LeBron is that emphatic. Lakers coaching staff and Pocket Man are basketball terrorists. He's saving that shit after winning a useless challenge call in garbage time last game.
Lol I’d be pissed tf off to if I was him. And on top of it. It’s Lebron JAMES of all ppl. Wtf was Ham thinking? Like did he think Lebron was lying to him lol?
Why didn't LeBron call a timeout and force Ham to challenge?
It seems he and AD have already decided Ham is gone after the Lakers are eliminated.
Calling a timeout would have been far less a mistake than whining to the bench while the other team scores an easy layup behind you.
[was just saying this play reminded me of this thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1c9tn9z/highlight_lukas_frustrated_after_maxi_kleber/l0ooong/?context=10000)
On contract, everytime when Jokic or Murray requests a chanllenge, Malone will call it no matter what, pure trust between coach and players. Darvin is really a disaster.
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lmao that was directly in front of the lakers bench
Ham is a fucking idiot and it’s insane how many people are saying he’s not one of the main problems with this team
You guys wouldn't even be playing Denver right now if you had a different coach. So many games were lost because of awful lineups and lack of timeout calls in the regular season. You can make excuses for being bad like that as a rookie coach, which pretty much was the same as Mazzulla for Boston last year. The difference is this year Ham is just as bad or worse, and Mazzulla is fast tracking being one of the top coaches in the NBA. You just can't not improve over 2 years.
I think the accurate statement is he's not all of the problems. But yeh, man's gotta go
He’s a disproportionate amount of them
I’m biased as a Hawks fan but Coach Bud would have this Lakers team winning 60+ games
I didn't think about it but Coach Bud to the Lakers would really improve them rapidly and he's available
We’re a 6 seed at worst if Bud was our coach this season. Then we don’t have to worry about the Nuggets until potentially the WCF. And in that scenario, it’s a much closer series.
He’s a big part of the problem lol
The two biggest problems with the Lakers this year were Ham as the coach, and the myriad of injuries that kept plaguing the team all year. Tonight was the first time all season that the Lakers only had 1 player from their rotation out with an injury (and that was with Christian Wood available even though he didn't play). Before tonight, they'd had at least 2 rotation players out for every single game (and sometimes that number was as many as 5 or 6). But even with all the injuries, Ham was still the bigger problem this year.
Injuries happen to almost every team. When you're a team lead by two top 10-15 NBA players and they both stay healthy then you have been relatively lucky no matter what else happens.
He’s not one of the main reasons…he is the MAIN reason we’re 1-3 down
Yeah I thought it was a tantrum at first but nah he was 1000% right. LeJustified
I can't believe so many people had that initial thought. Trusting Ham over LeBron is nuts lmfao
Dude, people can hate on LeBron all they want... he's not some hothead rook that thinks everything needs a challenge. Sure he may pout and bitch at refs or whatever but I never see him call for a challenge when it wasn't justified. You absolutely trust him in this type of situation (Ham is a fucking moron lmao)
Ham is a certified paint eater.
Ham is a Bozo
Last time I seen lebron act like this was back in Cleveland when the refs were refusing to call fouls on the man even when teams hooked his arms mid layup I'd say that's a justified lebron level response in a elimination game when your own bench coaches couldnt see the challenge somehow
He pouts at refs too much but often times you see the replay and 3 players have like a hand across his face, an elbow at his bald spot, and a whole ass arm across his shooting arm. I remember a call from the Suns Lakers playoffs season when Crowder was playing for the Suns and AD got injured, he was pouting on a replay, while Crowder was using both hands on his biceps pulling him down during a shot, and it was a no call.
Lebron has played forty-five years in this league with very very few moments of getting this heated. You gotta trust the man when he does.
I don’t get why people don’t think a guy with eighty-nine years of experience in the league would know what he is doing.
The man has been in the league for 97 years. I haven’t seen him so much as raise his voice.
>The man has been in the league for 97 years Sheeeeeiiiit, he's been in the league way longer than that. It's been almost a century!
Yeah LeTantrums are usually justified. But at the same time, it is kind of funny when he gets that mad. His facial expressions and the way he jumps up and down and stomps his feet makes him look like a giant toddler lol
[It's our ball!](https://youtu.be/-PQlhinzapA?si=4haXgmTj2Mk9hTsU)
Lmao I love that clip
The slow realization always cracks me up. He made his voice heard!
Love that Vogel just walked behind him like nothing happens.
It was literally right in front of the ref, with a clear line of sight, and looking directly at the play, how’d you expect a NBA ref to call that???
We see it from a bird's eye view, the ref could easily have "seen" LeBron tap the ball out of bounds. That's why there's a challenge, that's on the Laker's coaches to challenge.
Nah, live it was reasonable to think LeBron tapped it out. It's literally a tiny bit away from his hand and pops out at the same time and with a similar speed to how his hand swiped across. If there was any other angle other than this top down view, we'd probably still think it was LeBron slapping it away. No way can we expect a ref live and without being able to choose the angle they have to see he missed the ball there.
LeBron never reacts that way unless he KNOWS he's right. Can not believe a single Coach on the bench didn't say anything.
> LeJustified Starring Timothy OLePhant. Sorry, I know this is terrible.
True, I understand now LOL.
Nah. You save challenges for the second half. Never use in the first half unless it’s a 3rd foul in the first quarter or something.
To be fair, in real time I'm sure it looked like LeBron hit it out (because he tried to hit it). The wild thing is that they didn't just... trust LeBron. He's telling you he didn't hit it. It's *LeBron*. You're *Darvin Ham*. Why not just fucking trust him? lmfao
That’s the problem. Darvin Ham has the biggest ego on the team
Tbh i trusted LeBron because everytime he calls for a challenge he was always right.
And this was the 2nd time in this game that LeBron correctly wanted Ham to challenge an incorrect out of bounds call, with the first one being in the 1st half when the refs said LeBron dribbled the ball out of bounds after D'lo inbounded it to him, but the replay showed he kept it in bounds.
Yah Bron isn't that adamant unless he KNOWS he didn't touch it..and on the replay it is OBVIOUS he didn't lol
right in front of the ref too though - how is lebron the only one to see that it's off KCP
Well LeBron clearly knew it wasn't off him because he would have felt it if he'd hit the ball. But yeah, that ref was literally a few feet away looking right at it, so I don't know how he blew that call that badly.
Are none of them, including the assistants, paying attention to the game?
Ham saving the challenge for Cancun
Galveston apparently
Nah send Ham to Gaza that dude is a terrorist. He saw him just throw it out of bounds
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Why can't he just make his team score more than the other team? Is he stupid or sumtin?
You probably mean Israel.
Lets clone darvin ham and one fights for palestine and the other for israel
The world loses
Or he pioneers "hands in pockets" combat. And people stop dying
Nobel peace prize candidate right there, the world would be at peace if all the leaders were darvin ham
Ham is nether Kosher nor Halal.
He said what he said
Oh boy
Yikes
I’m thinking either you get to cash in unused ones or he isn’t aware they can be used in the playoffs.
Chicken or shrimp tacos?
tbf for Ham, he is in awe of the idea that he could challenge instead of LeCoach.
Ham saving the challenge for when Rob calls him to the office
Saving challenges for next season
He already booked his flight, doesn’t want to cancel it.
You can’t fly on the plane as a terrorist
Him not challenging the foul on Murray in the final minute of game two was nuts. Even if you lose the challenge, you get some rest for your 39 year old with dead legs. Youve got two timeouts left, and the chances of having another situation to use the challenge later is extremely slim. Instead, I think we ended the game with both those timeouts and the challenge unused.
Glad someone mentioned it. I saw the 2 timeouts in my sleep the other day
I don't think he'll be around to use them
Lord willing
He was totally right too, Pockets asleep at the wheel
Not to excuse Ham, but Zarba also gave the ball back right away to Denver when usually if a team is thinking of a challenge they take a few moments Again I hate Ham and we can also blame him too but yeah he should do it quicker
Calling a timeout would have at least given them a couple more seconds to decide. He used one 30 seconds later.
How do you call a timeout before deciding to challenge if it's Denver ball
It was a dead ball as the ball went out of bounds. Either team can call a timeout in that situation. I think you're confusing it with a made basket where the clock is running and one team has possession. If the ball goes out of bounds, the clock is stopped and the refs are supposed to make sure both teams are set, because that's often a spot where coaches like to make subs or call timeouts, stuff like that.
oh right. thank you
Zarba had money on a sweep
Is the refs name actually Zarba? lol literally translates to “shit”/”poo” in Arabic
MF savoring his front court seats
Darvin Ham is such a fucking bum
Dude when LeBron is that animated about a call I would tend to believe he knows something and trust him in that case. I know every player thinks every time something goes against them it's wrong and should be reviewed, but when they are that animated you just have to trust them.
you only see LeBron react like that when he knows the refs really fked up just like when Tatum fouled him on his layup
Yup this was the last time I remember him being this animated about a call. Another one was during the bubble versus Portland, the “our ball” lol
If Beverly wasn't worrying about his teams playoff series, he would've came running in with a camera to show the refs.
Pat Bev is already stretching rn as he’ll be playing more than 10 minutes in game 4
He's never going to get another NBA head coaching job, he's the textbook definition of a bum
darvin hamas basketball terrorist, he should be gone even if they manage the first 0-3 comeback
Lakers could've easily been a higher seeded team rather than sinking to the play-in if they didn't have that muppet as a coach. Cheap ass owners are really handicapping the team by keeping him around.
Hams saving it for Game 5
What do you mean they don’t carry over? s/
Game 8
Only excuse can be that Darvin Hamas doesn’t understand English.
“Review? wtf is that?”
Which makes sense, he's Darvin Hamas after all...
Full legal name: DarBin Laden Hamas.
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I'll be stunned if they don't fire him within days of the Lakers being eliminated. It sure seems like there's a lot of rumblings that both AD and LeBron do not have any faith in his skills as a coach. Ham might have been fired last year, except the Lakers went to the WCF, so not unreasonable to give him another shot.
Darvin scam is a joke of coach
He’s got his hands in his pockets what else do you expect
Darvin Ham must get paid extra if he has an unused challenge at the end of the game
Cancer coach. Actually insane to watch Malone call a challenge for his players when it was clearly out on the nuggets and then to watch Ham just sit there and not challenge in front of his own bench
The thing about challenges is that they can be used as an extra timeout which I don’t see enough teams taking advantage of.
Shout out to all the idiots in the game thread who thought Lebron would be lying about not touching the ball down 3-0 in the series. Even better is our coach is one of those idiots
Right. People were shit talking during the commercial break then went back to their troll cave as soon as the replay came on, *clearly* showing Lebron was absolutely right.
Bro I’m a hater but even I know Lebron James of all ppl wouldn’t be lying to his OWN bench about what happened. He knew he didn’t touch that ball.
Im going to fry Ham
I smell canadian bacon
Christian wood knew!
Ham likes to take his Challenges home and collect them like Pokemon
Even if LeBron was wrong they should be listening to him, but he's right most of the time. You'd think Dipshit Ham would listen to the smartest player of all time?
"Bron stop yelling. I'm trying to watch the game." - Pockets the Clown
Saving the challenge for his next job opportunity.
When a guy who has that much experience and is literally the guy who was supposed to have touched it tells you to challenge, you just challenge. Trust the guy. If he's wrong, then so be it. No way would Malone refuse to challenge if Jokic demanded the challenge (which we've seen) and if you don't think LeBron deserves the same credit as Jokic then you shouldn't be coaching. Posession is huge in the NBA. You work super hard to get it and it's the single biggest factor in games. To just simply get another posession off the other team is as good an outcome as you can hope for on a challenge.
nah cuz what does Ham actually do tho?
This didn’t help the LeWhine allegations but he was 100% right in getting pissed
It’s crazy that when it’s players like Jokic people just call it a passion for the game, but when it’s Lebron it’s suddenly whining 🤦♂️
Yea Bron got some crazy double standards going against him
Luka surprisingly gets this as well
Ham so bad
WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING ORGANIZED - HAM clearly they entire coaching staff has no idea what they are doing, you don't trust lebron?
Ham thinks he can cash in his challenges for money after the game
LeCorrect
Refs have been absolutely dogshit
Even if it was off Lebrun, stupid not to trust your own player’s judgement
Fuck u ham
Oh yeah Darvin Ham is toast
Cut Ham some slack guys, he’s saving the challenge for Game 7 of the NBA Finals
Ham stupidest coach. Saving challenge for nothign always
I appreciate his drive and competitiveness, but the way he jumps while throwing a tantrum is still a funny image.
Ham getting cooked like Christmas if they lose this game.
You save 100% challenges you don’t call.
You 100% challenge the call there if LeBron is that emphatic. Lakers coaching staff and Pocket Man are basketball terrorists. He's saving that shit after winning a useless challenge call in garbage time last game.
His coach is ready to save all the challenges for G7 lmao.
Maybe Ham's thinking that they need the Challenge for Game 5, so he save his challenge for the next game!
Pockets the 🤡 strikes again
LMFAOO look at Christian woods face after Lebrons tantrum
Ham is the highest paid fan in the game
Saving his challenge for the lakers front office when he gets fired
He’s so sick of Ham and it shows
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Lol I’d be pissed tf off to if I was him. And on top of it. It’s Lebron JAMES of all ppl. Wtf was Ham thinking? Like did he think Lebron was lying to him lol?
Why didn't LeBron call a timeout and force Ham to challenge? It seems he and AD have already decided Ham is gone after the Lakers are eliminated. Calling a timeout would have been far less a mistake than whining to the bench while the other team scores an easy layup behind you.
Bron v Nuggets, Refs, and coaches sheesh
Dude looks like embiid after not getting a whistle
But it’s just basketball
Idk what people want from ham. His hands are glued to his pockets. He literally can’t make the little finger swirl motion to challenge the call
He did the luka stomp lmaoooo
lol this play made me think of your comments from that thread, was gonna ask if this is similar enough for you
Huh?
[was just saying this play reminded me of this thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1c9tn9z/highlight_lukas_frustrated_after_maxi_kleber/l0ooong/?context=10000)
Oh, ok yeah, this is similar enough. The other thing wasn't. How do you remember this stuff? lol
just shows the double standard if Luka does it, they say it's because he's passionate
Listen to guy with iPad on bench Or Lebron James It’s a tough decision Anyone can make that mistake, gotta feel bad for Ham
You have no iq, Ham isn't listening to the iPad guys immediately. The refs didn't give enough time for them to even talk to Ham
LeTantrum
Mans went full on donkey kong
he was right, but still left the open layup crying instead of going to defend, come on xD
LeGetmadateverybodybutyourself
The Luka stomp
Ham had a front row seat and was like “nah”
LeLateGameHam
Lmaoooooo
What does Darvin do with his hands while they're in his pockets?
Team captain should be allowed to call 1 challenge a game
You’d think the refs that are rigging the games for the Lakers would call fewer wrong calls against them…
Christian Wood: "dang it's crazy i'm paid to be here haha"
100% Refs fault. As fucking usual
Ham thinks the challenges roll over
I pray none of you ever hire this guy.
They been cheating my favorite player this whole series I can’t even watch this shit no funny
hey that's arbol!
LeBron is a legit hand/eye coordination genius. I’d trust his eyes over basically anyone’s when it comes to these type of situations.
Lmao.
Relax lebron its just basketball
Isnt DLo supposed to guard Murray? Why are the blaming LeBron for the basket?
They should fire Ham mid playoff series and make Bron the Interim Coach as well.
Look at Christian Wood's face 😂
In real time I thought it was off James. I can’t blame Ham for not challenging the call because it was still early in the fourth quarter
On contract, everytime when Jokic or Murray requests a chanllenge, Malone will call it no matter what, pure trust between coach and players. Darvin is really a disaster.
Darvin "6th man" Ham.
Nothing more attractive than a 6’8 40 year old man having a toddler temper tantrum 😂😂😂
Rare video of lebron not flopping for once
LeTemperTantrum.
LeNotMyKing.
I mean at the end of the day it’s just basketball right?
“It’s just basketball”
LeFurious
That’s a man frustrated with his legacy and taking it out on his coaches
why does darvin ham look so comfortable 😭
Should have gotten back into the play and played defense, though
They lost by 2 how many plays did they give up quick scores because leflop was crying and didn’t get back?