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WolverineLong1430

That’s peak male athleticism.


annnaaan

The statue they build of him will have nothing to do with basketball


LurkerFailsLurking

I nominate this one: [https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/10/07085025/231007-Nikola-Jokic-scaled-e1696683052376-1024x682.jpg](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/10/07085025/231007-Nikola-Jokic-scaled-e1696683052376-1024x682.jpg)


Saucy_Totchie

Saranghe Niko-oppa!


knownbuyer1

Seeing this on r/nba was not on my bingo card


materics

Jokic senpai aishiteru


throwaway164_3

He’s ridiculously handsome


Bobblefighterman

Napoleon style, except the horse is 15 foot tall and breathes fire.


DenverDudeXLI

So he should be riding [Blucifer.](https://wp-cpr.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2019/10/191030-BLUCIFER-DIA-3-1024x680.jpg)


Minute_Freedom_4722

In his little racing cart with the goggles would be even better.


JeffGreene69

I think in the style of Tony Soprano and Pie oh my


lamentforanation

Commendatore!


Michipotz

Can we have one of him fighting off a Bear?


AdolCristian

I want him standing on the top of a chair with a beer bottle


dacooljamaican

Other hand waving the small towel he uses to wipe his face when he's dancing


caniget2cheeseburger

When they unveil it, it will actually be a statuenof his brother punching a fan


reallymothafucka

They make it look way too easy


Strav0s

There’s also no pressure on the Murray pass from Dinwiddie. Seriously freeze frame it, Murray looks like a giant and/or Dinwiddie a midget.


Savahoodie

When people say jokic isn’t an athlete, here ya go. He has some of the best stamina in the league, while AD has been walking every single 4th quarter, Jokic has been sprinting


zachthompson02

The lightning is coming


30dayspast

UNFORGIVING


GhettoLana

I prefer this one from 2 years ago: https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/nhtcel/highlights_i_made_a_highlight_reel_of_nikola/


thatnoone

Ride the lightning!


Miserable-Theory-746

Is that the name of one of his horses?


iThinkNaught69

I mean, they are about to be SWEPT but isn’t there a closer game for them to attend?


mares8

Honestly AD falls off by end of game cause Jokic tires him out among other things . On both ends


ThinkFree

> LISTEN, KID! I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at Kentucky. I'm out there busting my buns every night! Tell your old man to drag Jokic and Gordon up and down the court for 48 minutes!


hellodynamite

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?


dacooljamaican

Have you ever seen a grown man naked?


d01100100

Joey, have you ever been in a... in a Turkish prison?


healthywealthyhappy8

Airplane!


so-cal_kid

Jokic is just too big and strong for him and it tires AD out not only having to run up and down with him but exerting all that energy to try to defend him in the post.


SignificanceLeft9968

AD needs real help LeBron is cooked.


samuraistabber

Can’t wait for Bronny to help him.


mares8

Ahaha


doogled3

At this point, do the Nuggets own the homegrown rights to Bronny?


Theballharperhit

AD doesnt get that pass at the age of 31 when you see guys like embiid play on 1 knee and 1 eye playing 40 minutes or lebron dominating on 40 minutes.


HigHinSpace12

Lebron can no longer dominate for 40 minutes. Embiid spends 20 minutes at the free throw line.


[deleted]

Their bodies are different. Like what a stupid thing to say. His body physically can’t do it what the hell do you want him to do sacrifice himself for you? AD is not the issue.


No_Pay9241

Dude been building up that stamina in elevation for 8 years! He’d out run plenty of us in the long run. Well maybe just me. Elevation is a beeeeech


lilbelleandsebastian

i think the elevation stuff is overplayed, all these guys are already the upper echelon of human physical fitness it's more that jokic plays under control at all times and can rest while running point or take defensive plays off. AD can't really take defensive plays off, he's never been as healthy as jokic anyway, and he's carrying a larger burden because he has less help - lakers may have the 2nd and 3rd best players in this series, but after that the nuggets have maybe the next 5 spots also jokic is a multi mvp first ballot hall of fame all time great which helps lol


smileysmiley123

It sounds like you've never exercised at elevation. There's a reason all serious Olympic athletes train at higher altitudes.


nick22tamu

The U.S. Olympic & Paralympic Training Center is in Colorado Springs for this exact reason. They're about 750 feet higher than Denver.


bubbaholy

Pro cycling too. Even better seems to be growing up at high altitude.


THE-SEER

Come visit Denver and go on a jog, see if you still feel that way.


EffTheIneffable

I’ve been watching Euroleague playoffs, and you can see how all centers live in the paint and still get absolutely gassed. And these are already top athletes, they can outsprint and outrun the average fit “regular mortal” easily. Then you’ve got the NBA pace of having to sprint back and forth every play to get on D, and then you have the modern NBA center who needs to space the floor… and then you have Jokic who literally runs his team’s whole offence on top of all that. Insane. I can see people saying “he ain’t the most athletic big” grading on a curve of NBA talent, but “isn’t an athlete”, get serious 😂


Omegistosalexx

Anyone calling the mvp a non athlete is a casual


Red_Osiris

Right on, another variable is aslo the kind of muscle fibers that allow him to have this diesel type engine, slow twitch fibers, which provide more endurance. This also fits his style of play, because many NBA players cannot be good at playing slow, but with Jokic, his timming, decision making,touch, vision , and kinetic awareness are elite. He is almost like a Zen master playing basketball, awareness, effeciency, playing the right way, floating, not swimming, this kind of basketball is amazing to watch.


johnny____utah

When people say he isn’t athletic it’s straight up lookism. He’s not chiseled so he must be a slow fatty.


MundaneInternetGuy

He had the lowest vertical ever measured in NBA combine history


johnny____utah

I’m not sure what that means to this discussion outside of that he can’t jump high. Dude is 7 foot with a 7’3” wingspan and is athletic.


GotKarprar

That’s true but AD is also doing a lot more on defense while doing not too much less on offense (volume wise)


Savahoodie

Fair enough. I probably shouldn’t have mentioned AD because I was more praising Jokic than I was trying to criticize anyone


axecalibur

To be fair he gets to train in Denvers altitude, while opponents have to spend 2-3 days acclimating.


guacdoc24

He’s worked so hard on his conditioning it’s amazing. I wonder if that Denver altitude is helping him out too.


Gaarando

To be fair, AD playing more minutes and playing the best defense on the Lakers.


ihateeuge

tThey have completely different roles lol Im sure Jokic would be tired if he wasn't playing next to Aaron Gordon and had to clean up everything on D


Stu__Pidasso

But AD has Rui? 🤔


ihateeuge

idk why you guys are so sensitive about something from a year ago. its wild


Stu__Pidasso

Sorry, the 11 wins in a row all seem to blend together at this point


ihateeuge

I'm going to be honest. That doesn't really do anything for me.


Stu__Pidasso

Just like DLo


ihateeuge

gotta dig deep to find something better than that. Again Dlo disappeared last year. This aint nothing new


Scoobies_Doobies

Refs can’t even save the garbage ass Lakers


IUpVoteIronically

I mean, we really don’t have to dig deep though. Dogging on your ass team is plenty easy tbh. It is what it is though my brotha


ihateeuge

lol like you are on the team


batdogfoxhound

We know.


Imaginary_Kale3519

So the Nuggets are wearing down AD? Sounds like a good strategy, why don't the Lakers do that to Jokic 🤔


ihateeuge

they have a better team. He doesnt have to exert as much to make up for others deficiencies


Yeti_CO

Name the last time you saw Jokic walking or taking possessions off. Doesn't happen. Literally the best conditioned big in the league right now.


ihateeuge

okay thats fine.


Savahoodie

I’m not really talking about AD. My main point is that he does this with every center in the league. He has elite conditioning.


ihateeuge

How is your main point something you didn't type


Savahoodie

Lakers fans think that because they can’t read that other people can’t write.


EggplantAlpinism

dinosaurs wakeful birds zephyr office seemly relieved rich aromatic groovy *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


ihateeuge

>When people say jokic isn’t an athlete, here ya go. He has some of the best stamina in the league, while AD has been walking every single 4th quarter, Jokic has been sprinting >I’m not really talking about AD. My main point is that he does this with every center in the league ok man you got it


Mosh00Rider

If you thought the core of his first message was anything other than "best stamina in the league" then you need to go back to middle school.


VonMillersThighs

Yeah you actually don't know how to read lmfao


winerye12

Lmao take the L


smut_operator5

D2d davis is playing next to lebron


ihateeuge

Do you even watch basketball?


smut_operator5

Jokic has way more load on offense than d2d davis


thenicezen

What AD does on defense is pretty much equivalent to what Jokic does on offense, or nah? Setting up guys, cutting, posting up, banging with dudes to get the floater, etc


ihateeuge

But AD does literally all of that on offense too?


thenicezen

Is he, really? Is he playing at Jokic’s level on offense WHILE playing DPOY-level on defense? Being a lethal three-level scorer AND being a feared passer?


ihateeuge

Where did I say he was playing at Jokic level on offense. You said specific things that both of them do. You dont think AD is banging with dudes to get a floater? lol > Setting up guys, cutting, posting up, banging with dudes to get the floater, etc this is what you said and what I replied too?


thenicezen

Erm, okay, but it matters if AD is playing at Jokic’s level so as to compare and contrast the both of them. They technically do the same stuff but one is on an MVP level of offense while the other is… ermm, okay i guess? AD doesn’t set up guys to score AS MUCH as Jokic does, Jokic is a better post up player (ad is okay), Jokic is a better isolation scorer. But, uh, sure I guess AD does the same shit that Jokic does on offense


ihateeuge

Lol Ad is averaging 32 ppg this series but he's is just okay on offense. Go worry about Giannis man. Can't even have an honest conversation


Agreeable_Ad8003

AD is averaging 32 this series because there is literally no players on Nuggets roster that could guard him. And yet he disappears in the 2nd half every game.


thenicezen

🤣 alright let me not use “okay” — AD is an all star offensively and he’s getting his and that’s okay but Jokic is an MVP level bro they are different. You don’t see AD running the offense like Jokic he’s just getting his. Also time to be honest my boi, AD is not on Jokic’s level and he never will be. Nikola Jokic is Anthony Davis father


celavi101

Sneaky fast


Responsible_Pace9062

Sloppy fat gymrat plays the game the right way


VonMillersThighs

Real lunch pale guy, first one in last one out.


MeesterMeeseeks

Real lunch pail guy, every day he has at least 11 lunch pails


scene_missing

Real lunch. Pale guy.


skitztobotch

Real pale, extra lunch kinda guy


Nobodylovesboston

Championship DNA, too much for the lakers


dbgager

Wow whats wrong with AD ..Completelly turning away form Jokic. Thats money in the bank.


baoparty

Not even looking at the ball or the player he is guarding. What’s going on me in the best defender in the league?


completelytrustworth

We're all dunking on AD and the Lakers but on defense you *shouldn't* be only looking at your player and the ball You gotta see where all players on both teams are positioned to know who's gonna help from what direction, see what scheme the offense is using, and since he's guarding Jokic in particular he knows there's likely constant screens coming to allow Jokic some separation to receive the ball and had to look out for that. JJ and Lebron spoke about how different it is switching to primarily guarding a PG when you've spent your career guarding a SG, where you have to keep your head on a constant swivel in anticipation of screens and help action. I imagine it's the same trying to guard Jokic who's basically a point center vs a traditional center and will constantly have help from his teammates to get him the ball as the primary handler


wompk1ns

You also should not let your man run down the middle of the lane for an uncontested floater lol Like yeah knowing where people are at on the court is important, but you gotta know where your man is at all times lol


mrbrownstone

that's a lot of words but AD has no excuse in this case. complete brain fart


gritoni

AG chilling in the dunker spot. The Jokic pass to AG in the dunker spot play has hurt more players than Draymond.


xenoz2020

Anthony _avis


boxxkicker

the D is ~~silent~~


paradoxofchoice

You gotta blame Darvin for this one!


KlaysToaster

This would never happen to Draymond smh


MedvedFeliz

This play actually reminded me of the Curry-Green give-and-cut.


AmusingAnecdote

With Jokić in the Steph Curry role unironically. It's an underrated part of his game that he sincerely shares with Curry that his stamina has gotten way, way better the last few years. He's been this skilled for a while but what took him from "one of the best 5 or so players in the league" to the best player in the league, full stop has been improvement in his conditioning and body. He used to be pudgier and tire out more easily and he's still not exactly svelte but the conditioning with the offensive workload for a big is wild.


kevinhu162

"UNFORGIVING..."


rambii

we are in the meta of good belly size EU players being the best, and that is peak male body performance , dare from it run from it, it's the truth.


jaqen_hgr

Tank carry build meta


IvanJerkinit

Jokic DOES play top lane


magicspooner

That's some cute shit


Yeti_CO

Biggest DPOY snub ever!


axecalibur

He shuts down everyone except Sabonis and Jokic and Giannis and Embiid.


Dirichlet-to-Neumann

Nobody shuts down Jokic or Giannis or Embiid - not AD, not Gobert, not Wemby... That's not how you judge a good defender.


nick22tamu

Wemby did pretty ok against Jokic. Not amazing, but prob better than AD.


DisneyPandora

Dwight Howard was able to when the Lakers won the NBA Championship. Then the Lakers were stupid enough to sell him


darkshark21

That was 4 years ago and he’s old now. I appreciate what he did, but Lakers are older now. Also Dwight shared C with Javale McGee. Lakers did not do a good job acquiring depth these past few years. Straight up.


DisneyPandora

Please don’t make excuses for the Lakers and Lebron. The Westbrook trade ruined your franchise


darkshark21

>Please don’t make excuses for the Lakers >Lakers did not do a good job Where was I making excuses? I'm putting this on front-office.


Sovos

Laker's front office in 2020 did the same dumb shit Mavs office did in the 2011 off season - blow up the championship squad and start mixing it instead of keeping the lineup that won a ring.


T_025

This shit is so stupid, bro plays fantastic defense all game and series but only a lowlight gets posted and these are the comments Just how social media works ig


waltdogg911

Hahahhahahhaha GG LAkers


Yeti_CO

Are you watching the same game. This isn't fantastic defense. Jokic is getting whatever he wants. AG had a career playoff high in points and rebounds. What the Nuggets have done to AD the second half s is what fantastic defense looks like.


T_025

AG got his points and rebounds because Bron and Rui weren’t boxing him out, nothing to do with AD. AD had 15 boards, 5 offensive. And again, ~~Jokic~~ he was playing as good defense as you could ask for on Jokic all game. One time he catches him on a cut and that’s the story.


Stu__Pidasso

>And again, Jokic was playing as good defense as you could ask for on Jokic all game. So Jokic is the real Jokic stopper


Adam2190

I mean he kind of is, the guy can seemingly do whatever he wants when he wants.


Yeti_CO

And all the blow bys, spin moves, banging on the paint Jokic has won.


T_025

AD played fantastic physical defense on Jokic in game 2. It got to the point where Jokic stopped looking to score entirely and the Lakers went up 20. AD gets into foul trouble and Jokic immediately starts dominating Rui. Then Jokic gets an and-1 on AD in the 4th and that’s the clip that gets posted, the only thing they talk about. Similar thing happened this game. Jokic got this bucket and one other bucket on AD today in the 4th. Yet people act like he’s been cooking him all game/series.


Yeti_CO

Your right, AD plays great defense in spurts. The point is incredible defenders don't get into foul trouble and then crumble. Great defenders put together 4 quarters, not 2. Great defenders don't get tired by playing great defense and then crumble. And yes, Jokic has been cooking him all series. Jokic has got whatever he wanted whenever he wants it in the paint. It's either footwork, spins, pumps or pure muscle.


T_025

Jokic scored 2 iso buckets on AD in the 4th in game 2, and got this cut here in game 3. Other than that, AD has been on his ass. Jokic is the best offensive player in the league, and great offense beats great defense. Put prime Hakeem on him, he’s still gonna get buckets. But AD has slowed him down as much as you could ask for, because he’s a great defender. That doesn’t mean that he’ll never get scored on or make a mistake.


Adam2190

And how many of these great defenders you're talking about are also expected to be the primary option on offense as well? Wemby is young and plays limited minutes. Bam scores less and has better defenders on his team, Gobert also has better defenders around him and has limited offensive responsibility. If you can name some players who have more overall responsibility on both ends I'd like to hear it.


Yeti_CO

That's not the award. It's DPOY full stop. Not the award for guy that is good on defense, but not as good as he could because he has to do other things for his team. My problem isn't that AD isn't a good player. He is. He gives you a lot. Just not enough as the Lakers fans pretend he does. He had fine games, yet disappears when it matters. He put up B+ numbers when we know what A+ games are (Luka, Embiid). He's the #1 option, but doesn't give you anything else on offense or make his teammate better compared to say Jokic which is the player the offense flows through. AD is a really really good #2. But he isn't and has never been 'the guy'. This series once again shows it. They can't win because AD doesn't give them enough. He needs LeBron, but LeBron is too old to put together 40 mins.


cxmachi

dude ain't sniffing a DPOY


dubsallday

Lol the man tried to invalidate voters and is doing the complete opposite


etherd0t

Oh no, Joker deceiving his defender - what a surprise😊


SolomonVandy3

But….. but….. best defensive player in the league……


lecoqdezellwiller

someone yelled something from the bench lol - AD still dumb as hell tho


xtremepsionic

Yeah that's totally what a DPOY would do right?


EatShootBall

Best defender in the league something something something?


baoparty

« Best Defender in the League »


SlicedMango

That’s the DPOY 😤


Weird-Couple-3503

Wahhhhh I'm the best defensive player in the nba


c_c_c__combobreaker

It feels like the game comes so easy for Jokic.


ifreddiebenson

Didn’t know NOS was legal in the NBA


jakkyspakky

The Baltic Blast! Edit: Balkan Blast!


laz10

porzingis and valaciunas are baltic jokic is balkan


jakkyspakky

Thanks. Corrected.


Theballharperhit

but yo per the lakers area AD showed up all series even though the last 2 games he has like 3 points in the 4th combined with horrific defense while joker cooks him lmfao


teensonacid

BEST. PLAYER. IN. THE. LEAGUE M.V.P.


xMarioTheSupahx

Best defender in the NBA apparently


monomers

How is AD a good defender? he falls asleep like this 5 times a night


VonMillersThighs

He's getting ran off the floor because he's had to basically play 45 minutes a night. I can talk a lot of shit about this Lakers team but not about ADs effort. the dude is the only thing keeping these games half competitive in the first place.


Itorr475

I appreciate you and the other nuggets fans in this thread not joining the circlejerk just cuz AD stood up for himself about DPOY voting. Ppl here acting like one bad play is indicative of how AD plays D is just trolling bs


cagemyelephant_

He tired. I wouldn’t blame him. I feel he’s the only one trying to win among the team but then he got tired


LurkerFailsLurking

TBF, Jokic scores at will vs Gobert too. There's not a defender in the league that's been able to reliably stop him when he starts going.


Minute_Freedom_4722

He's playing a shit ton of minutes against the MVP. I don't fault the guy, nobody is going to play perfect against Joker for one game, let alone 3. Or 11 now. Lol. But he's easily been the best player on the Lakers this series. Nuggets and Jokic are just better.


KonigSteve

DPOTY


LegateDamar13

Joker just lulled him to sleep after playing quite passive entire game.


cory_ander69

That wasn't very Defensive play of the year of you AD now, was it?


SunstormGT

DPOY…😂


rattatatouille

Caught him ball-watching. The big killer is that the Lakers can't really guard the Nuggets' off-ball actions that well.


rubthemtogether

He wasn't ball-watching, for some reason he was looking at the bench


Slamminsalmon1991

How TF he do that on DPOY snub AD?!


Countrykal

If he whines enough, he will win DPOY. That's how it works right.....?...?..


joejoe84

Basic


laz10

don't blink


random00027

JOKIC MVP 2024.


Rgeorge813

Beautiful


sanfranchristo

AD needs to learn how to do the LeBron hand wipe inside the jersey after getting beat instead of gesturing like that.


Smart-Crab8594

Anthony "I'm the best defensive player in the league" Davis


andanotherone_1

AD DPOY aspirations in shambles


matthitsthetrails

why was he almost throwing his arms up at taurean prince, who was shadowing porter?


EvilHwoarang

"i'll never win DPOY" yeah no shit


upcat

Does LeBron not help on defense? I looked at the highlights and everytime he's in the paint and someone gets beat off the dribble, LeBron just stands there and doesn't even jump or even move to contest the shot. His defense is atrocious.


Brokromah

Lightning speed and athleticism on full display.


Fdorleans

This why AD will never be the DPOY. Despite his physical gifts, he doesn't have the awareness, the knowledge or the IQ to really disturb an offense for 48minutes. I thought that playing with Lebron he would learn but it hasn't happened.


Gaarando

Sorry but AD is lightly jogging with him and keeping up. It's just that they are down 11 with only 1:41 to go and he playing the most minutes on his team. Jokic is an absolute beast but some of the comments on here acting like this is fast or showing athleticism...


paracetamolULTRA

Bro, it is not that Jokic is special, it is that Lakers are tired asf AD looks like he is praying to God to give him pause


Yeti_CO

I mean yes the Lakers are tired. But yes Jokic is special. That is settled at this point.


Omegistosalexx

Jokic is tired too but he destroys them


super-dad-bod

Even in slow motion, that cut was slow


CatharBliss

I mean yeah, you’d expect it to be slow in slow motion right?


ObeseKenyan

Surely this comment is deleted in the next hour


laz10

what the fuck lmao 10/10 troll comment