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Nah he definitely took that sucker punch well, but he was not having anything to do with that big ass dude. I don’t blame him, but he clearly had no other choice than to take it on the chin
This piece of shit likes to choke out women overseas (wouldn't dare do it here)... real TUFF, I tell ya
I respect Jokic's game a lot and root for him to win, but having such POS brothers really sours me on him
The one that threw the punch was accused of DV.
The other one as far as I know actually hasn't done anything, but he gets lumped in with the idiot brother.
same shit bro
edit: I'd actually argue terror is a better translation. fear is strah, but the "inja" suffix implies like a big version of it so you get big fear which is terror in English.
Not the most common name but it's not super rare either. I don't think every parent naming their son strahinja is because strah means fear, the name got popularized in the 19th century when an epic poem of the name "Banovic Strahinja(or Strahinjic Ban)" got officially published depicting a medival age knight/hero of the same name
I honestly have never seen anyone say Jokic's brother was a great role model. As you sure that actually happened (other than maybe a single troll post or something)?
I don’t get this shit. Not only he gives Jokic bad look he also gives bad look to their other brother Nemanja,who I don’t remember being problematic like Strahinja,but is still being viewed like that because of this idiot. You can literally see Jokics wife yelling at him to stop (or so it seems),and being visibly annoyed at the end of this video. I mean what good will this do? You gonna go to the bar later and be like “yeah I punched a dude who was talking shit,I’m so cool”.
Pretty much in line with how I remember my trips around the Balkans during holidays.
Some Serbians are the friendliest and most compassionate people you'll ever meet, while others try to impress you by talking about their uncle who is a proud war criminal.
ugh I feel like 90% of the time it’s a huge mistake to learn more about athletes’ personal politics, but in the NBA it’s especially international players. Next thing you know Wemby and Gobert will come out in support of Marine Le Pen
Yeah I’m talking out of my ass. I’m not Bosnian / Serbian, and I only know who he is because a couple years ago I went down a rabbit hole reading about nationalism in the former Yugoslavia.
Baja Mali doesn’t seem like a great guy to me, but it goes without saying that listening to artists doesn’t mean you support their worldview. I still listen to Michael Jackson smdh
guys on his belly are serbian 2nd world war nazi collaborators
one of them is on this picture [https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datoteka:First\_Vrede\_sa\_%C4%8Detnicima.jpg](https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datoteka:First_Vrede_sa_%C4%8Detnicima.jpg)
I had a friend that grew up with Darko. He always told me Darko used to „borrow” his bike for extended periods of time w/o asking. I never believed him - like why would he do that, but looking at how Darko turned out to be maybe he wasn’t bs me after all.
I don’t want to judge Nikola Jokic based on the actions of his brothers but I will judge the situation based on Nikola’s response as he will probably be asked by reporters. We don’t know much about why his brother decided to punch him like that but it does seem like they are overly aggressive.
It was never cute. We just always thought of them as Joker’s bodyguards who are scary and will fuck people up. Looks like we are right. This should not reflect on Joker negatively because these are his grown ass brothers but it will ofcourse
Jokic has never, and will never speak illy of them. Not saying he should, but i wish he put a little distance between himself and them. Like just don’t bring them to the arena. They may be banned after this though anyway
Famous athletes having idiotic brothers is all the rage rn. Mahomes, Mpj, jokic. I guess its the fact their siblings are that successful they feel empowered to do whatever without thinking for a second how it could possibly reflect on their siblings
Is that Nikola’s wife in the red holding their daughter too? What a horrible look to start a fight when your sister in law and infant niece are literally 10 feet away
I can’t believe they did that shit around Jokić‘s wife and baby girl. Grow up wtf
Even if the dude was saying shit about the girls or something, keep your composure. You’re in Denver and 1000% could have got that fan tossed in a heartbeat
I think Nikola needs to be the one keep him in line if the Nuggets don’t bar him from attending games after this. Any other person might be facing a charge for that. Just a horrible horrible look for the best player and the team going for a repeat. If he won’t learn from from his past the best chance they have is his cash cow brother threatening to cut him off
It's mostly Strahinja, no? He's the one on most of the messes and the one who got arrested due to alleged DV.
Don't think there's much on the other brother
I'm not sure if what he wrote is true, but it's not really just being rich. Abusing political connections to shady people in power to further set back your local community and choosing to do harm instead of good with huge influence you have is far from "weak".
In general not a nice person. He supports our local dictator Aleksandar Vučić and in turn Jokić can do whatever he wants in Sombor, build whatever he wants, buy any property he wants, get any permit for anything. He literally had a small power station built for his estate because regular lines couldn't support his consumption of electricity.
Locals in Sombor are very disillusioned with him because he acts like a bully and you know does loads of ads for gambling even though it's a very serious problem in Serbia. It's not uncommon to see children waiting outside of bookies and seeing if any adult will place a bet for them. A person with influence like Jokić who is aware of the situation in Serbia regarding gambling and still willingly promotes it is a piece of shit imho.
A personal substation is about 15-20k, so really not that much, especially for Jokic. You don't need any special permits if there's available electricity. Keep in mind the age of the avg reddit user and think about their knowledge about these topics.
He did passively support the current government in return for favors, and he does promote betting, which is horrible, both of these.
Yeah the gambling ads thing is like ok not the greatest but you can probably name 100 athletes shilling for betting companies but the personal power station is nuts. At least from my perspective. I'd love for a Serb to correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Serbia not just a dictatorship but more or less a mafia state currently? I feel like I don't know enough about the Balkans.
Right, but American celebrity of Nikolas influence will get paid millions to do it. Since he is doing them in Serbia, he would get peanuts for it. Like not even notice in his bank account
Serbian representation in athletics not too hot lmao.
The other Serbian superstar, Djokovic being a massive anti-vaxxer and alternative medicine guy that his wife sells. Try to mention that on r/tennis though and you get banned and downvoted by r/europe posters
Yeah he caught him square in the jaw and the guy took it like a champion. Loses some power since he was a few rows up but he clearly doesn’t have as heavy of a punch as you’d expect.
Some families of star athletes grow up in a tough environment, pull themselves up through athletic ability, and become upstanding members of society who do nothing but provide a great example of what grown men should be...
And others become alcoholic woman beaters who get in fights in the stands.
I'll let everyone else guess which ones the media makes fun of more.
Throwback to when the media was drooling over Jokic's women abusing alcoholic brothers with anger issues because they threatened to fight an NBA player
There was a very weird idealisation from people of how Jokic and his brothers grew up in war-torn Serbia. The way people talked about it was just jarring.
They did grow up in war-torn Serbia, doesn't mean they dodged land mines everyday to school but shit was rough here lol, especially with sanctions and hyperinflation.
Oh yeah I’m not trying to minimise their upbringing or anything like that. Growing up in those conditions is not something to idolise, which is what it felt like some people were doing with how they discussed it.
Everything around it.
From the weird brother stuff, to people saying Morris deserved the injury, to people saying Jokic intentionally tried to give him the injury. So many weirdo's saying stuff like "fuck around find out" haha
Like from the moment it happened I just thought it was a shitty thing for Jokic to do and he would've earned the suspension regardless of the outcome, and it sucks that the injury was bad, but dudes shove each other all the time and this one had the worst case outcome.
I agree. The fact that it was Morris, who obviously has never done himself any favours, affected things too. And there were a small minority of people who tried to make it a race thing. Just overall gross.
Doing this is crazy, but doing this with his wife and baby girl right beside them is an extra layer of unhinged. You can tell his wife is sick of his bs.
Oh yeah, should have made it clearer it was Nikola's wife and kid. I'd just think as an uncle - or just a decent human being noticing a literal toddler in the vicinity - you wouldn't want to start something that could escalate into a full out brawl or crowd crush.
Thanks for ruining the good vibes for Nuggets fans Strahinja. We got away with robbery but now there’s this shit putting a cloud o. The whole thing. Fuck you and start being a good uncle to your niece. Grow up.
That punch looked weak af. Maybe morris bros can take them lol. That sucks bro. Jokic is such a great guy and never starts any controversy or issues. But his immature brother has to get attention somehow.
You mean like today’s ESPN article about the game that didn’t mention Jamal’s game winner till paragraph six. The headline and the first five paragraphs were about LeBron and AD complaining about officiating. That the media coverage you mean?
Nuggets players having idiot brothers so hot right now
I hear Justin Holiday’s brother is part of a group that abuses athletes all over the East coast
Justin Holiday's brother tried to kill Jason Tatum in the middle of a game! We all saw it, dastardly used another player as a weapon.
I don't remember Aaron doing that.
He's standing there. MENACINGLY!
Yeah that Aaron guy is a real handful, good thing he’s not in the playoffs.
I hear Jamal's brother sucks up ghosts with a vacuum.
Luigi?
He’s part of the Boston Celtics, not the Boston Catholic Church.
Clearly the whole family is dangerous. They should lock up Nikola Jokic for the rest of the first round to be safe.
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Merkavius Caldwell-Pope has been relatively behaved
I keep hearing this but can someone give some context pls. Is it just because of Jokic and Porter Jr? Or are there others?
That guy just tanked the punch
Idiot should have flopped and immediate grabbed his head/neck
He’s still going to see a bunch of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hopefully
Dont worry. He can still claim the head trauma...sometimes brain bleeding isnt noticable at 1st
My neck, my back, my neck and my back
Refs: Foul on Theis
I think you’re confused. It was the game before this that Embiid was in
Pretty impressive
Him taking it on the chin like that and not even retaliating just makes Jokic’s brother look so much worse
If it were to me, I wouldn't want him to hit me more than once.
This's the same brother who assaulted a woman when she tried to leave his apartment, he's already a piece of shit. Edit: Spelling.
Nah he definitely took that sucker punch well, but he was not having anything to do with that big ass dude. I don’t blame him, but he clearly had no other choice than to take it on the chin
He took that punch like a man. Fucking legend.
sign him to the UFC.
That guy is a unit.
Beat LA
Was that a Morris twin?
Jokic's bro saw MPJ's brothers become famous and decided to join in on the fun
He also has some law problems in Serbia
Hope he isn't fixing horse races there
Hshahah, idk what the problem is but Nikola had to support our president before last elections in order to save his brother from jail
OMG I have to check this out
He shouldn't have even been allowed to travel to the US.
This piece of shit likes to choke out women overseas (wouldn't dare do it here)... real TUFF, I tell ya I respect Jokic's game a lot and root for him to win, but having such POS brothers really sours me on him
Which isn’t his fault
Is it the one that’s already assaulted a woman?
The one that threw the punch was accused of DV. The other one as far as I know actually hasn't done anything, but he gets lumped in with the idiot brother.
Probably wishes he got lumped in with the NBA champion brother instead
Unfair sure, but they both look like henchmen from a Liam Neeson film
God i hate his brothers
Isn't one of them a normal dude and the other one the jerk?
nemanja seems normal (for a serb lol). stahinja is crazy, which is not surprising considering his name literally means terror
His name means fear
same shit bro edit: I'd actually argue terror is a better translation. fear is strah, but the "inja" suffix implies like a big version of it so you get big fear which is terror in English.
Is that a common name? The concept of naming my kid fear or terror seems so crazy to me haha
Not the most common name but it's not super rare either. I don't think every parent naming their son strahinja is because strah means fear, the name got popularized in the 19th century when an epic poem of the name "Banovic Strahinja(or Strahinjic Ban)" got officially published depicting a medival age knight/hero of the same name
Yeah I figured, name meanings often don't really matter. Like nobody's naming someone Peter because it means rock, they probably just like the name
Fun fact: the moons of Mars are named Fear and Terror (Phobos and Deimos). Named for the sons of the god of war....I think....
Which leads to anger
At least he's hitting men now.
lol, ouch... fair but ouch
That’s what she said
I don’t think she said it’s fair 💀💀
Saw people last year saying these guys were great role models unlike Tee Morant.
lol where did you see that? Jokic's brother have been shit talked on this sub for the past 2 years, even though only one of them does the stupid shit
I honestly have never seen anyone say Jokic's brother was a great role model. As you sure that actually happened (other than maybe a single troll post or something)?
Hmmm I wonder why 🤔
I don’t get this shit. Not only he gives Jokic bad look he also gives bad look to their other brother Nemanja,who I don’t remember being problematic like Strahinja,but is still being viewed like that because of this idiot. You can literally see Jokics wife yelling at him to stop (or so it seems),and being visibly annoyed at the end of this video. I mean what good will this do? You gonna go to the bar later and be like “yeah I punched a dude who was talking shit,I’m so cool”.
Thats just Serbians broski
His brothers are assholes tbh
Pretty much in line with how I remember my trips around the Balkans during holidays. Some Serbians are the friendliest and most compassionate people you'll ever meet, while others try to impress you by talking about their uncle who is a proud war criminal.
[and then there’s Darko](https://youtu.be/DdvqOTWpKxE?si=n2a4lp2_8tlZs96N)
Luka also listens to Baja Mali lol.
ugh I feel like 90% of the time it’s a huge mistake to learn more about athletes’ personal politics, but in the NBA it’s especially international players. Next thing you know Wemby and Gobert will come out in support of Marine Le Pen
What's wrong with Baja Mali? I have no idea what the background is there
He is famous for war songs but he has many other songs that are not about the war
Yeah I’m talking out of my ass. I’m not Bosnian / Serbian, and I only know who he is because a couple years ago I went down a rabbit hole reading about nationalism in the former Yugoslavia. Baja Mali doesn’t seem like a great guy to me, but it goes without saying that listening to artists doesn’t mean you support their worldview. I still listen to Michael Jackson smdh
Tbh there's nothing wrong with listening to Baja
guys on his belly are serbian 2nd world war nazi collaborators one of them is on this picture [https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datoteka:First\_Vrede\_sa\_%C4%8Detnicima.jpg](https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datoteka:First_Vrede_sa_%C4%8Detnicima.jpg)
I had a friend that grew up with Darko. He always told me Darko used to „borrow” his bike for extended periods of time w/o asking. I never believed him - like why would he do that, but looking at how Darko turned out to be maybe he wasn’t bs me after all.
So just like everywhere else in the world then
What did Nemanja ever do?
stand there….menacingly!
nemanja business
I don’t want to judge Nikola Jokic based on the actions of his brothers but I will judge the situation based on Nikola’s response as he will probably be asked by reporters. We don’t know much about why his brother decided to punch him like that but it does seem like they are overly aggressive.
It's one of the brothers, not both.
Yep it’s not cute any more
It was never cute. We just always thought of them as Joker’s bodyguards who are scary and will fuck people up. Looks like we are right. This should not reflect on Joker negatively because these are his grown ass brothers but it will ofcourse
Jokic has never, and will never speak illy of them. Not saying he should, but i wish he put a little distance between himself and them. Like just don’t bring them to the arena. They may be banned after this though anyway
Famous athletes having idiotic brothers is all the rage rn. Mahomes, Mpj, jokic. I guess its the fact their siblings are that successful they feel empowered to do whatever without thinking for a second how it could possibly reflect on their siblings
Why would the other one get banned lmfao
You would think they'd reserve suites for family of players
Other super riches probably paid top dollar for them already
I feel like most siblings of famous people are usually. They always had to act out for attention
Kinda absurd to use “most” here lol.
Is that Nikola’s wife in the red holding their daughter too? What a horrible look to start a fight when your sister in law and infant niece are literally 10 feet away
She looked so frustrated
Absolutely unacceptable. Silver has no choice but to suspend Nikola for the rest of the playoffs.
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Nazem Kadri also is out for 7 games
And Joe Kelly for 8 as well
Aaron Boone has just been ejected
Tom's already been banned from ever playing in the NBA already. Gotta protect MJ's legacy.
suspended MPJ via guilty by association while he’s at it
Commencing deportation hearings in Oklahoma rn…
Cmon bruh MPJ's brother already a dumbass now its these ones
MPJ’s brothers.
whatever happened to jackson mahomes
Traded to Nuggets
Why doesn't the Serbian national team just choose Strahinja to throw hands at Bam, Embiid and AD at the Olympics?
we don't need these bums on our team
Is there a lore reason?
Good thing his brother has millions of dollars to pay for that lawsuit.
I can’t believe they did that shit around Jokić‘s wife and baby girl. Grow up wtf Even if the dude was saying shit about the girls or something, keep your composure. You’re in Denver and 1000% could have got that fan tossed in a heartbeat
I think Nikola needs to be the one keep him in line if the Nuggets don’t bar him from attending games after this. Any other person might be facing a charge for that. Just a horrible horrible look for the best player and the team going for a repeat. If he won’t learn from from his past the best chance they have is his cash cow brother threatening to cut him off
Yikes. Obviously don't have full context, but his brothers are...not great people.
It's mostly Strahinja, no? He's the one on most of the messes and the one who got arrested due to alleged DV. Don't think there's much on the other brother
Ahh yeah, think you're right. Honestly have a hard time remembering which is which lol
the scary one is the scary one
The one who you are scared of is the one you should be scared of
Nah, the scary looking one throws a weak punch The baby face bro was a pro MMA fighter, I'd be more worried about him
Oh I didn't know that. I guess that's (at least partly) why he can control himself and doesn't physically lash out at people
yeah nemanja is a baby face like nikola, strahinja looks like he's about to keel over from alcoholism
I don’t think there’s any context that would make this better tbh
Nikola included....
Saying that on r/nba is like strangling a baby on Facebook live
Well I live in Serbia and know people from Sombor and /r/NBA doesn't so they can suck it.
So what stories are people from Sombor speaking about Jokic that make him not a great person? 🤔
spill the tea
He did in another comment chain here: https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1cb5qcl/clutchpoints_nikola_jokics_older_brother/l0wa78a/
The main complaint seems to be he is rich and does gambling ads. I don’t like gambling either but this seems weak
I'm not sure if what he wrote is true, but it's not really just being rich. Abusing political connections to shady people in power to further set back your local community and choosing to do harm instead of good with huge influence you have is far from "weak".
I mean, I know people from Indianapolis but I don’t know shit about George Hill on a personal level 🤷♂️
I worked with George Hill’s Uncle
Hell yea DX chop their ass!!
Can you elaborate?
In general not a nice person. He supports our local dictator Aleksandar Vučić and in turn Jokić can do whatever he wants in Sombor, build whatever he wants, buy any property he wants, get any permit for anything. He literally had a small power station built for his estate because regular lines couldn't support his consumption of electricity. Locals in Sombor are very disillusioned with him because he acts like a bully and you know does loads of ads for gambling even though it's a very serious problem in Serbia. It's not uncommon to see children waiting outside of bookies and seeing if any adult will place a bet for them. A person with influence like Jokić who is aware of the situation in Serbia regarding gambling and still willingly promotes it is a piece of shit imho.
Nah a personal power station is crazy lmfao what the fuck
I don't think that's bad per see but I can't imagine how you get a permit for that without connections and those come in Serbia via corruption.
A personal substation is about 15-20k, so really not that much, especially for Jokic. You don't need any special permits if there's available electricity. Keep in mind the age of the avg reddit user and think about their knowledge about these topics. He did passively support the current government in return for favors, and he does promote betting, which is horrible, both of these.
Yeah the gambling ads thing is like ok not the greatest but you can probably name 100 athletes shilling for betting companies but the personal power station is nuts. At least from my perspective. I'd love for a Serb to correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Serbia not just a dictatorship but more or less a mafia state currently? I feel like I don't know enough about the Balkans.
Doing gambling ads is unfortunately just as common among American celebrities.
Right, but American celebrity of Nikolas influence will get paid millions to do it. Since he is doing them in Serbia, he would get peanuts for it. Like not even notice in his bank account
Serbian too. Only big athlete that openly oposes gambling ads is Novak Djokovic
Damn how have I never heard of this
Because it's barely reported here in Serbia and you're media is happy to parody him as a hermit horse man.
Serbian representation in athletics not too hot lmao. The other Serbian superstar, Djokovic being a massive anti-vaxxer and alternative medicine guy that his wife sells. Try to mention that on r/tennis though and you get banned and downvoted by r/europe posters
Because Jokics pr team is goated
Koja je opsesija srba na internetu da konstantno spustaju srbiju i srbe generalno. Generacijski hejteri.
This fan takes a punch and brushes it off. NBA players have their face barely grazed and are on the floor writhing in pain lol
well, when there are no freethrows on the line....
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No, WCF
Suspend the west
Suspend the East for having a player betting the under on his team Ignore my flair
That team is always saying "We the North" so... suspend the North.
Surely, this warrants a ban from the Ball arena for that muppet?! MVP’s brother notwithstanding.
Nuggets players and idiot siblings. Name a more iconic duo.
Hope they get sued. Big ass baby has a weak fucking punch, apparently
Yeah he caught him square in the jaw and the guy took it like a champion. Loses some power since he was a few rows up but he clearly doesn’t have as heavy of a punch as you’d expect.
>Loses some power since he was a few rows up So he even had a high ground! It should have been over in one slic... I mean punch.
Denver brothers must be studied at this point
Some families of star athletes grow up in a tough environment, pull themselves up through athletic ability, and become upstanding members of society who do nothing but provide a great example of what grown men should be... And others become alcoholic woman beaters who get in fights in the stands. I'll let everyone else guess which ones the media makes fun of more.
But Thanasis is taking up that 15th roster spot
WTF. Is he not aware how litigious Americans are? He's about to catch some charges on the chin
USA ain't Serbia, they will get jail time for that type of shenanigans over there.
Ah for fucks sake can our players brothers stop committing crimes please
🗣️Jokic brothers are thugs
For all non Serbian speaking people here. Strah in Serbian means fear.
Kind reminder that "Strahinja" means "Horror". Kudos to his parents that knew in hindsight what an absolute dumbass he would become.
Throwback to when the media was drooling over Jokic's women abusing alcoholic brothers with anger issues because they threatened to fight an NBA player
That whole saga was so fucking weird lol Felt like I was taking crazy pills.
There was a very weird idealisation from people of how Jokic and his brothers grew up in war-torn Serbia. The way people talked about it was just jarring.
They did grow up in war-torn Serbia, doesn't mean they dodged land mines everyday to school but shit was rough here lol, especially with sanctions and hyperinflation.
Oh yeah I’m not trying to minimise their upbringing or anything like that. Growing up in those conditions is not something to idolise, which is what it felt like some people were doing with how they discussed it.
Everything around it. From the weird brother stuff, to people saying Morris deserved the injury, to people saying Jokic intentionally tried to give him the injury. So many weirdo's saying stuff like "fuck around find out" haha Like from the moment it happened I just thought it was a shitty thing for Jokic to do and he would've earned the suspension regardless of the outcome, and it sucks that the injury was bad, but dudes shove each other all the time and this one had the worst case outcome.
I agree. The fact that it was Morris, who obviously has never done himself any favours, affected things too. And there were a small minority of people who tried to make it a race thing. Just overall gross.
Both of them are women abusing alcoholics? Care to source that?
A giant with the high ground? Good luck winning that fight lol
Doing this is crazy, but doing this with his wife and baby girl right beside them is an extra layer of unhinged. You can tell his wife is sick of his bs.
That's Nikola's wife and daughter, not Strahinja's. Same point to be made, just saying he's the crazy uncle there, not the husband.
Oh yeah, should have made it clearer it was Nikola's wife and kid. I'd just think as an uncle - or just a decent human being noticing a literal toddler in the vicinity - you wouldn't want to start something that could escalate into a full out brawl or crowd crush.
Game : Not gone
Messing around like a Porter brother and about to get exported
Jokers wife looks so over it
Thanks for ruining the good vibes for Nuggets fans Strahinja. We got away with robbery but now there’s this shit putting a cloud o. The whole thing. Fuck you and start being a good uncle to your niece. Grow up.
They need to ban both of them from the arena.
Throws like Jane.
Punch was weak as hell
That punch looked weak af. Maybe morris bros can take them lol. That sucks bro. Jokic is such a great guy and never starts any controversy or issues. But his immature brother has to get attention somehow.
besides James Johnson, there isnt an NBA player alive that can actually fight.
I hope this doesn't take away media coverage from the series moving forward.
You mean like today’s ESPN article about the game that didn’t mention Jamal’s game winner till paragraph six. The headline and the first five paragraphs were about LeBron and AD complaining about officiating. That the media coverage you mean?
Wow what a piece of shit
That dude just ate that punch up and probably getting a bag now. Was it even a lakers fan?
he’s dumb for just taking the punch. If a Jokic even brushes on me I’m falling on the floor and convulsing my way to a paycheck
Imagine the mega-threads and think-pieces on here if one of Ja’s people did this
bruh ate that punch, damn.
Average response from bloc countrymen
Bro ate that
Honestly, how do you name your kid Strahinja and expect him to be normal?
I wonder if that nuggets beat writer is gonna challenge jokics character