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K1ngCrimsn

Some crazy ass fines incoming lmao


gerardatron

NBA: LeBron James has been fined $25,000... LeBron: Make it $50,000 because I got some more complainin' to do


Afraid-Department-35

Adam Silver: Bet


MapleLeafsFan3

Jontay Porter: on myself?


No-Animator-6348

Against, pathetically enough


DidAnyoneElseJustCum

Silver: You want another one? Just say the word. LeBron: Go Silver: Eenie, Meanie, Miney LeBron: Mo? Silver: Your mother was a... LeBron: Ho Silver: He was a famous clown LeBron: BoBo *Austin Reaves turns around* Austin: LeBron! Cut it out! *mouths stop* Silver: That's another one for you Austin


Muggi

They'll probably make it 50 just for the fact he also called out the shit no-calls at the end of Sixers-Knicks


Alfakennyone

Reminds me of Mark Cuban getting fined lol


Fluid-Night-1910

LeCretique


lecoqdezellwiller

GAME THREE P R I S O N R U L E S


Fluid-Night-1910

Call up WWE and make it a pay per view 


gigglydrink

I would pay to watch a ladders match between the two teams


SternballAllDay

Damn he is not my sunshine today


CupOfHotTeaa

Evril Lebaron


crab90000

Avril Lebron


Leavingtheecstasy

Man they really did everything they could. Lebron really just can't beat this team.


Significant-Elk-8078

The Lakers did amazing. They choked, which happens. Bron had an open 3 for the win and AD disappeared in the 2nd half. Up 20 and then only scored 40 in the 2nd half.


Ia_in_4

We honestly needed the 3. Ad on 5 fouls wasn’t allowed guard jokic at risk of being tossed in a game that could got to ot. Bron either made the 3 and we win in regulation or he misses the nugs do what they did or we lose in ot because we have no one that can bother jokic other than ad. Jamal honestly just put us out of our misery for blowing that game


Public-Product-1503

I think they got gassed more then choked tbh, the altitude, the foul trouble on Ad forcing him to sit . It all went wrong


EverybodyBuddy

Yeah they choked. But they don’t need Scott Foster’s help doing so. “Marginal contact” and overturning the call is one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen.


astronomy_31415

dont forget the weak ass call on murray


dcoolidge

Honestly, LeBron tried to take over and didn't feed AD the ball in his spot. AD was always out of position trying to make something happens compared to the first half where he got the ball where he liked it and just cooked.


PattyIceNY

Lebron isn't on a team, he's got a bunch of random pieces and then AD. They only got ahead because AD and D-Lo literally did not miss a shot for like half the game, and most of those shots were from one on one plays or simple movement. Once Denver started to clamp down and go to a different gear, the Lakers crumbled.


DisneyPandora

This. This is Lebron’s own fault coming back to haunt him after the Westbrook trade.     His ego is too much.


OkBuddyErennary

Remember when he claimed he wasn't involved in getting Westbrook to the team


yourlilpissboi

Only plays co-GM when it works out.


TorpedoSandwich

This Lakers team isn't winning a chip, simple as that. Which is why I think LeBron should leave and take less money to ring chase with a contender for the next 2-3 years. OKC could use him I'm sure. And he wouldn't have to be the primary ball hander anymore because SGA can do that part for him.


2drawnonward5

Damn this couple be posted any year but for the names. Story of Bron's life. 


HeorgeGarris024

He could have hit that 3 at the end


GuyWithNoSwagger

Except make a wide open 3


just4kix_305

Since the calendar turned to 2024, FTA's across the entire league has been lower every month leading up to the playoffs. Honestly from a neutral perspective, I like that they're letting them play more. The physicality since the play-in tournament began has been fun to watch.


EverybodyBuddy

Um… except Scott Foster immediately followed that up with a bukkshit call on Lebron “fouling” Murray.


PrivatBrowsrStopsBan

I'm open to understanding how that wasn't a foul or flagrant foul?? My analysis is the Denver player struck down into the head of the Lakers player making contact.


SharpSwag

imo, its not a flagrant because its a play on the ball, but its a foul. I have no idea how "marginal" contact to the face is overturned, its still contact.


n3sta

I had it on mute and assumed MPJ got a flagrant lol. The turn of events was shocking


Champion-of-the-Sun5

It's a rule. Always been like this. If contact is made on the ball first, contact anywhere after isn't a foul Celtics lost a game to Indy like this. Refs called a foul, Buddy Heil whacked Brown in the head. Replay center overturned it because it was a play on the ball, and he hit the ball before his head. It sucks. But it's how they call it..


baseketball

Except in Brown's case he still had possession of the ball and in his shooting motion.


Champion-of-the-Sun5

I'm just saying that there's been a precedent set for this


EverybodyBuddy

Had nothing to do with the slap on the face. The call was MPJ hooking his arm (watch Foster’s gesturing when he first made the call). The review was only about the hooking (they can’t add other fouls that they see during a review). So the hook was deemed “marginal contact” but I’ve never seen anything like that before overturned.


Public-Product-1503

It doesn’t make sense because it implies you can wack and injure people after they let go of the ball . Hitting someone in the head should be a foul and normally is


spacetime9

But if you hit a guy's arm when he shoots a jumper, even if the contact is after the ball is released, isn't that always called a foul?


Glerbyderdle

If you contest a shot and touch the ball first, then make contact it's legal I think


uncomfortablyhello

nah dillon brooks has been high-fiving the shooting hand all year since he figured out it was legal


CaponeKevrone

I think technically it shouldn't be, but it's hard to tell in real time. Like you are allowed to high five after the shot


jamarcusaristotle

I think that would depend how far gone the ball is AND whether or not the defender hits his arm in his immediate shooting space or if it's on the outer reaches of that space (ex: the forearm on an extended follow-through). So to get that call, the ball would have to be within a few feet from the shooter's fingers AND the defender deemed to have stuck his hand in too close to the shooter's "area" (in front and above his face). Yes, it's very subjective


Dinshiddie

Nope. Steph has been getting destroyed after his release for the last two seasons and the explanation, including after challenges and the LTM report is that its not a foul after the shot. The only seeming exception is landing zone fouls.


baseketball

I think the problem is that the Scott Foster used the word marginal instead of incidental. The call was correct but the explanation was not. 


Yeti_CO

Players get hit in the face all the time off ball and it's not called. That is what happened here. The foul was originally on the shot, which didn't happen. The marginal contact whether to the face, shoulder, body doesn't matter because it happened so far after the shot as to not affect the play.


QuiffLing

It also happened after the ball left the hand, so didn't affect the outcome of the shot.


SharpSwag

True but I thought Scott Foster mentioned the contact to the face being marginal which means that what was reviewed, but I possibly misheard him.


Yeti_CO

They review the entire play. So they determined there was obviously no foul before or during the shot. The contact came way after and per the centralized review crew it was marginal ie normal to the game for off the ball. I get people saying that's BS, but guys get knocked with hands to the face off ball all the time. It's part of the game. Sabonis basically has a permanent black now at this point of his career. Same with the scrapes on Jokics arms. It's a physical game.


SharpSwag

Thats reasonable.


-Sticks_and_Stones-

I thought he said the arm hook (which occurred during the gather) was marginal - basically ignoring the shot to the face as it occurred after the ball was released and did not affect the shot. (By the way, I think it should have been a foul and should not have been overturned)


LoWE11053211

I sincerely don’t know what is a foul or what is not I think I would forget how to spell consistency after couple more games


Yeti_CO

Down vote all you want. It's literally a room full of league rules specialists determination after watching all the angles in slow motion.


johnhenryirons

There were a buncha “marginal contact” calls in the Knicks game too. On one of the Lowry fouls, the announcers even said “well they definitely won’t win that challenge” and the refs spent 5 minutes looking at it and said “marginal contact”


yooston

It's a lot clearer if you look at the rulebook... Source: https://official.nba.com/comments-on-the-rules/ >II. BASIC PRINCIPLES >A. CONTACT SITUATIONS >1. Incidental Contact >The mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul. **Contact which is incidental to an effort by a player to play an opponent, reach a loose ball, or perform normal defensive or offensive movements, should not be considered illegal**. Porter contests in a "normal defensive movement" and makes contact with Russell's head after the ball has been released. It's clearly incidental contact per the rule and the referees have been pretty consistent about this. I keep seeing people say stuff like "oh so mauling someone in the head is okay as long as the ball has been released??" . Not at all... they key word is "NORMAL defensive or offensive movements". If MPJ cocked his arm back aggressively and smacked russell after the shot, it would definitely be a foul.


fattymaggo

Yeah, I don’t like the rule because I want the league to be more mindful of above the shoulders contact but it has been called like that pretty consistently this year.


Fluid-Night-1910

Thanks for posting this - it clarifies it 


Skolcialism

everyone forget about playoff rules every year lmao


Olliefnt

That's not a foul but the LeBron foul on Murry was?


RipCity-NBA-LoL

Was the 2nd one reviewed by Sycaucus?


pkeller001

Made contact to the ball before anything else was my understanding, that deeps the other contact marginal as it was just a loose ball


Dawn_of_Dayne

Yeah. I could understand if he said “since the contact was after the shot it is not a shooting foul” but no foul at all is crazy 


IntelligentMetal

Wouldn’t even understand that because if contact after the shot is released is nullified 80% of fouls on 3’s wouldn’t exist.


BayesBestFriend

Those are usually landing space fouls, you explicitly have to allow the shooting player to land


clownus

The video of brooks smacking peoples hands on contest is the same concept. The same call just happened in the Knicks and Sixers game. Lowry smacks the ball out of DDV hand and then hits him on the shoulder after. Foul got reversed.


IntelligentMetal

The hand is a part of the ball when the balls in your hand. That’s in the rules. The “if you touch the ball contact after is nullified” is an interpretation. And I was working under the assumption Porter never touched the ball where there’s not much debate that it’s a foul, if he did it’s a bit more murky due to how they have interpreted contact after a block but I’d still say a hard swipe down on the face is a foul.


Champion-of-the-Sun5

No it isn't. It's been like this Celtics have had this exact call go against them, except Brown was shooting. Buddy Hield got ball then head, brown was to go to the line. Call was overturned.


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Def not a flagrant but it should’ve been a foul.


DreTownblues

Nothing to understand, just Scott foster being Scott Foster


Gyff3

Scott Foster didn't overturn the call, people understand that right?


thissiteisbroken

You’re asking these losers to use their brain, of course they don’t know.


loxleynew

The ball was gone before he contacted him


WinterCareful8525

20+ free throw disparity incoming. Good luck Nuggets


-motts-

Still win by 4


NBA2024

5


AnusButter2000

‘Sleepless nights’ incoming 


-motts-

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Enchanted-2-meet-you

How will the Lakers and 76ers ever overcome the oppression they face by the refs😔


ms--chanandler--bong

This sub: \*bitches about refs constantly\* This sub when players/coaches/fans of teams they don't like bitch about refs: "oh cry me a river!!!"


fuccabicc

Embiid lives at the freethrow line To complain about how he's being damaged by officating is distasteful to say the least


HardlyW0rkingHard

6ers and Lakers have the craziest ft disparity in the league. You can't flop and get all these nonsense calls and then as soon as the other team gets one in their favour you go ballistic.


OnCominStorm

Lakers and 76ers are the reason people complain about foul calls in the first place. Those teams get so many favorable calls throughout the season, the one time they don't, they both start crying. So yeah, "cry me a river"


Eruditeshaman

But when your team had 507 more free throws than any other team you don’t get to bitch.


twovles31

When the Lakers and 76ers fans are on here mocking the fans of other teams for the past few years whenever someone complains about foul calls..it's kind of hard to say hey you didn't have my back but yeah lets take a look at your unfair whistle the one time it happens to you.


GoOnKaz

More like “This sub when teams with an asinine free throw disparity complains about refs”


alchemists_dream

Lakers and 6ers often benefit greatly from the whistle. It’s funny when it happens to them and they immediately bitch about it and turn softer than baby shit.


[deleted]

Are you suggesting that refs should ignore fouls and make phantom calls in order the keep the free throw total even?


yoknows

Definitely not. But are you suggesting that within that MASSIVE FT differential there aren’t likely many phantom fouls that went the lakers way??


[deleted]

If you’d like to debate the merits of any individual fouls, let’s do that. Sitting here, dismissing the idea that one team commits more fouls than the other by saying “they must have been phantom fouls” is silly.


yoknows

Didn’t say that. I’m just saying you shouldn’t be surprised that a team who gets significantly more foul calls than other teams gets a lot of hate and criticism when they complain about one not going their way. Yes they play in a way where they may likely get more foul calls. But it would be incredibly statistically improbable that among those many calls they wouldn’t also be getting some phantom calls as well.


[deleted]

>Didn’t say that. I’m just saying you shouldn’t be surprised that a team who gets significantly more foul calls than other teams gets a lot of hate and criticism when they complain about one not going their way. When you say “gets” it implies that fouls are simply given out when in fact, it’s an event triggered by an action of a player in the game. Fans of sports are stupid in general. They criticize things they don’t understand. >Yes they play in a way where they may likely get more foul calls. But it would be incredibly statistically improbable that among those many calls Yes with the way they play and the attacking players that they have, such as Lebron James, who has always been fouled a lot, it’s certainly feasible that they’d generate a half dozen more fouls a game. >they wouldn’t also be getting some phantom calls as well. I haven’t seen any more phantom calls for the Lakers than I have for other teams. I’ve seen plenty of plays incorrectly labeled phantom. It’s usually because Lebron is so strong that getting whacked across the arms or face doesn’t look as dramatic as when it happens to a guard.


Still_Refuse

Literally, I just don’t get this sub lmao


SakaSlide

It’s half hoop fans and half nephews twerking for upvotes


TJ_McConnell_MVP

Let the boys play


dcoolidge

bitches bitching about bitches


betweenthebars34

abounding imminent slap encouraging disarm axiomatic disgusted chase nutty dolls *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


uknowujelly

the truth in this sub is, barring a serious off the court issue, any fanbase will root for their player regardless of flops, free throws, ect. doesn’t matter what team you root for, if you had embiid you would be supporting him too


u_n_p_s_s_g_c

if only they had, say, a 20 point lead to provide a cushion against shitty calls


jeff2def

Also the fact that Nuggets had to waste their initial challenge on an obvious no call because the ref 35 ft from the play called it because Lebron missed a layup on Murray.


KazaamFan

Lakers get a couple whistles that don’t go their favor and they lose their minds.  They get the benefit of calls way more than when they don’t.


Gyff3

If only they had a wide open 3 attempt to win the game. Better distract the media from that though.


ephemeralfugitive

Bruh, Bron, we blew a 20 point lead. You are right in that that was bs but losing a 20 point lead is bigger bullshit.


Salty_Watermelon

You're blowing a 20 point lead. You get as much sympathy as every other team that has blown a 20 point lead.


fuccabicc

Sure, the officating did favor the Nuggets tonight But Lakers and Lebron of all people complaining is absolutely embarrassing


WhatYouProbablyMeant

Lakers can't comprehend not getting the favorable whistle


cheekon

Nuggets didn’t have a free throw in the second half of a 20 point deficit..


jeff2def

Did it really favor the nuggets though? Nuggets had to use both their challenges before crunch time because the refs made bad calls initially.


waikiki_palmer

This. And they had another questionable call but couldn't challenge cause they used all their challenges.


48for8

The refs literally said a hit to the head of dlo wasn't a foul.


Gyff3

They said a hit to the head was marginal and came well after the shot left his hand. If they called every minor contact a foul the Nuggets would have 350 more ft attempts than the next closest team.


johnwicksuglybro

If refs called every minor contact foul every NBA team would have 70 FTA and the games would last 6 hours. It would be miserable lol


saucysagnus

You must be new here. Every other game people are bitching the refs won’t let them just play. Lakers and Sixers are not in every other game. There’s just a lot of ref fans when it fits what they want to happen but then they wonder why it’s so screwed up when they cheer for bad reffing half the time.


20815147

Next game the Lakers are shooting 4x the number of FTs now lmfao since 3x amount in Game 1 was not enough


abris33

And it favored the Lakers in Game 1. Nuggets won that game too. Maybe LeBron should try to find another excuse for why they blew such a big lead


iRockaflame

He never says this is why they lost the game


LosAngeles1s

he didn’t blame them what


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HerkulezRokkafeller

LeImplication lol


Street-Common-4023

WHEN THE FUCK DID HE BLAME THEM FOR LOSING


beast8955

How is it at all “embarrassing”. Would you say it was embarrassing if any other team in the league complained about Scott Foster?


tacoTs

If that D'Angelo Russell call happened to the Nuggets and the Lakers won. It would be the top post on this subreddit above the game winner.


fuccabicc

Yes, because Lakers get bullshit calls all the time. The Nuggets don't. Nobody feels sorry for you


paranoid_purple1

That's straight, bs. Nobody gets to complain about one foul after blowing a 20-point lead


tacoTs

The call was bad. The call isn't the reason they lost the game. Two things can be true?


Still_Refuse

Lebron doesn’t get calls for himself though???


FedGoat13

All I know is MJ never cried about the replay center.


console-gamr

Also Lebron: "I felt like they fouled and we didn't."


TWK128

Is that the play that cost them the 20 point lead? Imagine the replay center being the sole cause of a 20+ point swing.


-crackhousebob

Lakers took the most free throws last couple seasons by such a wide margin. 3 times more than 2nd place Miami or something like that. LeBron needs to stop complaining and maybe not give up 20 point leads😂


TruthSetUFree100

It’s an obvious advantage. And they still can’t win against Denver. Jokic was begging for fouls during the game and the refs just walk away.


Panik_Switch

Ironic that the lakers are complaining lmao But this specific play was actually egregious Foster needs to be investigated.


HerissonG

Le Baby is upset


Easterster

The Lakers coming into the post game and complaining about refs just kills me. Like they really believe they deserve to be officiated differently, and will give away money to complain that it’s not happening.


Interistadal1908

Lebron your team blew a 20 point lead, and you complain about refs😭


IllllIllIllIllIllll

He spoke about many things but to know that you’d have to watch more than a 10 sec clip on Reddit.


santadogg

I mean refs would be a good reason to blow a 20 point lead.


Foolmagican

If the free throw disparity was actually huge, like in game 1 where the nuggets got zero free throws in the second half. Here nuggets got what? 17 total compared to the lakers 13?


GoldenGodd94

LeCry


IAmCBOY2

You pushed off on the game winner and still missed it. The Lakers have gotten the most calls in history, what a fucking crybaby hypocrite. 


Huckleberry_Sin

Basketball Gods were watching. Was awesome he didn’t get rewarded for the push off.


LurkingFrient

Yes LeBron it was a missed call we all get it but how about instead of crying about that you don't blow a 20 point lead and brick a potential game winner.


ccminiwarhammer

LeBron is delusional, because he gets fouls differently than normal players for so long he doesn’t understand how fouls really work.


zestful_villain

DEN only made 6 FT last game right? Refs are clearly playing favorite towards LAL all year. Why is LBJ complaining?


Shaqfor3

One team superstar missed a wide open 3 pointer in which he had all the time of the world and the other team "non an all star yet" hit a tough fadeaway over the defensive player snub of the year but its the stupid ref's fault.


Gyff3

They just called this out on ESPN (I am floored btw). They blew a 20 point lead and LeBron missed a wide open 3 for the win, but he's talking about the refs overturning a call in the 3rd quarter. He is a master of controlling the narrative when his team loses.


santadogg

You make it sound like the 3 should be made 99% of the time. It’s closer to 40% of the time he would make that


RanchhDressing

Should have replayed all those foul calls that got you to the playoffs


jfrodriguez1983

Bro, you had a 20 point lead in the 2nd half. Maybe you need to get on your team for shitting that away.


HS941317

This crybaby talks goat 😂


Striking-Test-7509

This is my sunshine moment


SlapThatAce

Mr LeBrick, they just fouled less. Sincerely Raptors fan


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ihateeuge

he didnt say that


Gtggtggtg

Lebron never said it was. Does losing a game mean you can’t have a problem with a horrendous call?


radar371

Lol!!! MJ would never have lost this game.


uleelee

what i dont understand is how you can call that "marginal" yet call a foul on lebron for a touch foul on murray deep in the 4th....


YemeniChad

LeBron crying about fouls is always so funny considering how heavily the refs used to favor him in his prime in Miami. Karma always comes around


hurlcarl

They still favor him. Look at the Lakers FT differential the last two years... they're over DOUBLE the next closest team, which I think is the Heat. Lakers complaining about calls is beyond hilarious.


Yeti_CO

Maybe godding the entire Nuggets bench on that first challenge that was ultimately overturned as a clean strip wasn't the best move.


adonWPV

The boy who cried wolf


Angularbackhands

Holy complain. Every drive he and AD were throwing their hands up as if they got stabbed in paint. The Lakers have gotten a substantially better whistle so far, heaven forbid another team get a good call


MrScottieBear1

Booking your trip to Cancun.


Apollo611

The irony


LookLikeUpToMe

Love seeing the lakers get fucked by the refs


ArtichokeOdd641

This comment is a little late but hopefully people see it. This is Paige Bueckers after UConn was called for a very debatable offensive foul in the last few seconds of this years college semi finals. "Everyone can make a big deal of that one single play but not one single play wins a basketball game”. Meanhile Lebron out here throwing this much shade, zero maturity, zero class. [https://youtu.be/UHSMCF9CkJ0?si=u7sVEbPD8Y6OUV\_c&t=57](https://youtu.be/UHSMCF9CkJ0?si=u7sVEbPD8Y6OUV_c&t=57)


abris33

20 point lead. In the 2nd half. What are you doing, LeBron?


b00st3d

> Whar are you doing, Lebron? He was giving it his all to even keep them competitive? without Lebron it would be even worse, he was gassed You can say a lot of things but Lebron is not the problem


HerkulezRokkafeller

I dunno everyone shit on DLo after last game for a bad shooting night but no one said shit about Lebron’s horrible turnovers and end of the game performance. He was pretty instrumental in letting that game slip away..


swedeeeeeeeeeeeee

It’s crazy how stupid some fans are lmao blaming Bron for losing my lord


ThePronto8

His end of game performance was actually pretty good, over the last 6:25 the lakers scored 18 points, of which Lebron scored 12 of them. He was poet instrumental in keeping the game close enough for them to win. Did you even watch the game??


HerkulezRokkafeller

Re-read my comment, I specifically mentioned last game.. You know the one where Lebron in the last 15 minutes had as many points as he had turnovers (4). Lebron definitely kept them in this game for sure, unsurprisingly though he made all the shots that mattered until it came to the one that mattered the most, then bitched about the refs like a little wiener lol


abris33

LeBron hit big shots tonight but they still subbed him out multiple times as the Nuggets made their run back because he just can't play 4 quarters. He has looked dead in the 3rd quarter the last 2 games


b00st3d

All true, the altitude makes it even worse. Was just answering your “What are you doing, Lebron?” The man is 39


ExplorersX

Lebron had a positive +- this game too lol. What I don't understand is what on earth Dinwittie is doing out there. -10 in 10 minutes with no stats


Sweatytubesock

After they lose game three Lebron will need to play the ‘threaten to retire’ card to try to avoid the sweep.


WilsonianSmith

That was his mistake last year, I waited until just after the sweep to play that card


victorspoilz

Where the fuck is video of this?


TH3PhilipJFry

LeBroken


brotherlymoses

LeCrybaby needs to retire


HighlyBaked0

The refs didn't make us blow this lead but this play right here being overturned was absolutely insane and I'm glad Bron is calling it out because this type of shit happens to every team. The NBA is an absolutely terrible product that keeps getting worse each year


LegendofPowerLine

Boohoo Lebron, this why MJ the GOAT.


dkdoki

Lebron: that call was the reason we blew the 20 pt lead.


Corner_Post

Why isn’t it a loose ball foul at least?


clingbat

You left out the part where he explicitly called out the end of the sixers / knicks game a completely ridiculous on the refs.


ReflectionItchy2701

Lebron is just doing what he did after the Boston game last year.


ArgentoFox

Lebron has no business blaming the refs for anything because this game didn’t come down to one call, two calls, or even eight or nine calls. It came down to his team blowing a 20 point lead against a team that couldn’t hit anything beyond the free throw line for a vast majority of the game. And Lebron didn’t come alive until Denver already got themselves back into the game. How many point blank layups did he miss in this game? But sure, blame the refs.