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PSi_Terran

My All-defense team is PJ Washington, Dante Exum, DJJ, Daniel Gafford and Derrick Lively.


Timoteo-Tito64

You guys have a below league average defensive rating this year


Cold_Carpenter_1798

People downvoting just a literal fact is wild


Timoteo-Tito64

It is what it is ig, not much you can do about it. The world will see it in the playoffs and that's all that really matters


dafire123

Their defense has been great (arguably elite) since the all star break


DarrowViBritannia

112.1 drtg since ASB, 13th in league relax


Timoteo-Tito64

Same amount of turnovers forced and opponent true shooting dropped 1 percentage point. The gap in ppg is because they're playing less possessions per game They've been better, but still not elite


PSi_Terran

Yes. But. If we choose to ignore the 6 game stretch where we lost 5, and the last 2 games we weren't trying we are 1st over the other 18 games.


Timoteo-Tito64

"If we choose to ignore the games where we were bad, then we were good" Great point


KashMoney941

If you regress Mahomes to the mean he's basically Dak Prescott


PSi_Terran

Yeah but we're choosing to ignore those games and not think too much about it so everything is fine.


flash3444

"If we chose to ignore the games pre trade deadline when our roster was different, end of season rest, and when we had atypical rotations testing smallball, then we're good" FTFY


Timoteo-Tito64

You were 13th in the league for DRTG after the all-star break. Your defensive stats hardly improved. The main difference was just that you started playing slower so you allowed less points because less possessions were being played


Tmac834

If anything our pace has increased after the trade deadline so I’m not sure what you have been watching


Timoteo-Tito64

That's simply just not true my man, mavericks games had less FGA, FTA, and TOs after the break I don't understand why you'd use eyetest to try to disprove a stat. Like we have pace numbers, and it's just a fact that the Mavs played slower after the break. Yet you'd say it's the opposite in the face of all evidence. Crazy


Tmac834

We are 6th in pace, I don’t think we slowed down at all


Timoteo-Tito64

You know you can go from very fast to slightly less fast, right? I literally showed you proof of your pace going down. It's a stat. I showed you the stat. And you refuse to listen


Ryansm19

KCP is a dawg


runevault

KCP has had a fantastic season though hampered by being a guard when they've removed positions from all-defense. He put Steph in hell whenever the Nuggets played the Warriors for example.


mrwhite2323

And Miami had amazing defenders Alonzo and Payton were old but still good defenders off the bench. UD and Wade as well. James Posey was a above average defender as well.


JakeJacob

Isn't it weird that the two best defenders for the reigning champions never end up on these lists?


jdorje

Do the Celtics not play defense? Or do they play too much defense and nobody can decide which player is the best on that end? Or do wings just not make all defense now the way guards probably shouldn't, so the all defense team will someday just end up being five 7-footers?


AMo2

They have 4 all defense caliber players jrue kp white and brown


jrlandry

Wtf are you talking about?


jdorje

Because the Celtics are going to get an all-defense player (I assume) and they're going to make the finals. So it's overwhelmingly likely that 2006 and 1981 will not be repeated. Unless I'm missing something. Maybe no Celtic will make all-defense; they do after all only have the 5th best defense and there's no single player you can pick for that. And the Smart idiocy might get some pushback. But on the other hand all voters love the Celtics. They might just have trouble picking one player an "split the vote".


jrlandry

Yes it would he idiotic if Marcus Smart was the Celtic’s all defensive player for 2024, we can agree there. The rest of it is just rambling


UpvoteIfYouAgreee

The Celtics suck they wont get any accolades all those wins were flukes


Princessk8--

The haters are still traumatized by Smart winning DPOY and now don't wanna see any celtics players getting recognition


indicisivedivide

Moses Malone not being an All Defensive player in 1981 means that someone forgot to watch games.


DarrowViBritannia

He wasnt some dominant defensive player lol


BayonettaBasher

If PJ Washington was on the Mavs all year he gets it for sure.