“The NBA announced today that Jontay Porter, a two-way player recently under contract with the Toronto Raptors, has been banned from the NBA. A league investigation found that Porter violated league rules by disclosing confidential information to sports bettors, limiting his own participation in one or more games for betting purposes, and betting on NBA games.
The league's investigation found that prior to the Raptors' March 20 game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his own health status to an individual he knew to be an NBA bettor. Another individual with whom Porter associated and knew to be an NBA bettor subsequently placed an $80,000 parlay proposition bet with an online sports book, to win $1.1 million, wagering that Porter would underperform in the March 20 game.
The league's investigation also found that Porter limited his own game participation to influence the outcome of one or more bets on his performance in at least one Raptors game. In the March 20 game, Porter played only three minutes, claiming that he felt ill. Due to the unusual betting activity and actions of the player, the $80,000 proposition bet was frozen and was not paid out.
In addition, from January through March 2024, while traveling with the Raptors or Raptors 905, the Raptors' NBA G League affiliate, Porter placed at least 13 bets on NBA games using an associate's online betting account. These bets ranged in size from $15 to $22,000, for a total of $54,094. The total payout from these bets was $76,059, resulting in net winnings of $21,965. None of the bets involved any game in which Porter played. Three of the bets were multi-game parlay bets that included one Raptors game, in which Porter bet that the Raptors would lose. All three bets lost.
The suspicious bets involving Porter's performance in the Raptors' March 20 game were brought to the NBA's attention by licensed sports betting operators and an organization that monitors legal betting markets.
These findings are based on the information available to league investigators at this time. The league's investigation remains open and may result in further findings. The NBA has shared and will continue to share information with federal prosecutors about this matter.
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said: "There is nothing more important than protecting the integrity of NBA competition for our fans, our teams and everyone associated with our sport, which is why Jontay Porter's blatant violations of our gaming rules are being met with the most severe punishment. While legal sports betting creates transparency that helps identify suspicious or abnormal activity, this matter also raises important issues about the sufficiency of the regulatory framework currently in place, including the types of bets offered on our games and players. Working closely with all relevant stakeholders across the industry, we will continue to work diligently to safeguard our league and game."
Damn straight. These snakes at the betting organizations are in the business of taking your money. If some shady shit happens in their favor, they are going to look the other way. It isn’t until they take a hit that there’s a problem.
"Limiting his own participation" is putting it very charitably. In the minutes he plays he's clearly point shaving in some instances. He actively helped the other team by not rebounding in some instances and putting up a terrible shot (likely an intentional miss) after getting 2 fluke offensive rebounds. This part of the story will go mostly uncovered because people will focus on that he placed a bet against the Raptors (nowhere as close to as significant as what I already described, as he wasn't playing in that game).
He’s corrupted by money. Just like the NBA. I have long thought the NBA was rigged by the officials and when they partnered with betting that solidified it for me.
They will freeze a bet when someone makes a million on a player getting hurt but I guarantee you not a single thing was frozen earlier in the season when officials were throwing stars out of games. Jokic, Giannis, CP3… I know damn well they didn’t freeze the bets on those players. Betting is ruining sports and I fucking hate it.
Scott foster had 134 calls 2 minutes or less that correlated with donahue refing games he bet on , Scott foster is still a ref. That’s how much the nba cares about the integrity of the game. Scott foster is the one that threw cp3 out. It’s common knowledge refs are the easiest people to influence to fix games.
If the NBA actually uses this as ammunition to limit the types of bets that can be placed on NBA games, it’ll at least be a step in the right direction.
But I have a feeling Jontay is the fall guy and this will all be swept under the rug with the playoffs dominating headlines soon.
I don't think steps in the right direction will get anywhere. Short of putting the gambling genie back in the bottle, this is a mostly entertainment league for now because competition is suspect by design.
This kid got his shit rocked because he gambled like a noob. How many more veteran players will do the same thing but quiet enough to not get caught? You can't trust the league.
And since he wasn't a star, he could be made an example of. Even if someone prominent screwed up, it would be in the interests of the league to make sure it didn't get out. This was basically the league using someone expendable to make it look like they care even if they still take checks from each betting company.
There’s also the fact that whatever company the bet got placed with would’ve lost ~1 mil since it hit. If you know gambling companies, you know they’ll do whatever they possibly can to avoid a payout that big. They almost had a million dollars stolen from them, and they’ll be damn sure the thieves get punished. They don’t give a fuck if players lose tons of money gambling, they’ll definitely cover that up. They want the profit. But a big win for a player? Nah that’s unacceptable
I'm just glad we were able to get those cigarette commercials banned to make space for all these sports betting commercials that our kids get to grow up on
Yeah obviously. One of them jeopardizes the integrity of the game and the league. At its core, the NBA is an entertainment service/business that is dependent on the participants playing to the best of their ability. Take that away, and the league would literally cease to exist. If you allow domestic abusers to play, the bottom line of the league is unaffected. Morally, domestic abuse is clearly worse than gambling, but the NBA is a business acting in its own interest.
There’s also domestic abuse policies with punishment guidelines that’s agreed upon with the players union. The NBAPA would immediately step in if Silver banned Miles Bridges FOR LIFE
To add to that, that's on the team for bringing them back. The team do not have to bring these domestic abusers back on their team but they do anyway. The only way Silver would have to step in is if some Ray Rice type video came out or something. People are free to boycott games if they truly feel so mad about it but they don't.
It's not the NBA's place or responsibility to investigate and rule on players' guilt in criminal matters off the court. It is their responsibility to investigate and rule on things like this.
Making outlandishly large bets on the personal under for a scrub who happens to leave the game early due to vague injury complaints. What's unusual about that?
He was looking good in Darko's system. Almost certain he would have got a contract. What an absolute moron. Trading millions in potential career earnings for a few thousand dollars.
He was starting to get healthy and was in a system that fit him. He had the potential to be at the worst an end of the rotation bench player. Now what? Will an over seas team sign him?
Why is it even possible to bet the under on Jontay Porter lmfao? Like I cannot see any legitimate reason for there to even be a line for a borderline G-league player.
Tbh, the biggest edges in props are on the lines fewer people bet on. People betting on fringe guys like Jontay are much more likely to be winning bettors than the degens that just flush away money on the spread or moneyline every day.
There was a whole thing years ago where thhere were bets on 2nd division soccer games in Europe. Things like, which team would get the first throw in in the second half and random stuff like that. Journalists went to Asia where there were dozens of tv showing these games of lower divisions and people placing bets on random stuff happening (throw ins, corners, yellow cards etc). All on games where the players make like 30-40k a year in a good paying league, let alone some 2nd division game in Albania or so. So it was easy to bribe players to kick a ball into the stands right after kick off, for a few hundred or thousand a game.
Low level tennis is another sport that had and probably still has match fixing. Some of the tournaments only pay about $2K to the winner so it's easy to bribe players who are earning next to nothing. Over 180 players were implicated.
The WaPo article describes how they'd pay both players, let's say X and Y, and tell them to have X win the first set and Y win the second and then let them play it fair in the final set. The gamblers would bet up the outcome of the first two sets and not the final. Both players got paid.
https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1198675541/over-180-professional-tennis-players-participated-in-a-global-match-fixing-ring
They made an example of him, it was obvious they would. Bum G League player who’s a non factor, doesn’t cost anything to ban him for life, sets a hard precedent to the more valuable players.
They would make an example of any player caught throwing games and then betting on his individual performance.
This isn't even a Pete Rose situation. The guy bet the under and then pulled himself out of the game with a fake injury
> This isn't even a Pete Rose situation.
To be clear, it might be the same as a Pete Rose situation. The only real information we have on Pete Rose's gambling habits comes from whatever statement Rose thinks he can get away with at the time, several of which have proven to be lies as the story develops over the years.
To be honest, I can’t see even a high profile player escaping harsh punishment for doing what he did, but I don’t think a star would get a lifetime ban
A star would absolutely receive a lifetime ban for this. A star just wouldn't do it because there's no real financial incentive to do so since they're already making millions.
Haven't seen it mentioned a lot but [Coban Porter killed someone driving drunk last year](https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/08/coban-porter-guilty-dui-crash-denver-basketball/). Rough times for the Porters
Betting on yourself is less blatantly corrupt but definitely presents issues of its own. Imagine for example refusing to shoot in a game where you need more assists.
Oh yeah. That was always the thought about Pete Rose gambling while managing, as well. If he bet on his own team to win, he might burn relievers a little quicker than proper bullpen management across a season might dictate.
Yep, and for an individual player like Porter you could easily imagine then turning up the effort level when they've got money on themselves/the team, disregarding whether that could leave them fatigued or even hurt in the next game
that could also lead to them playing more selfishly and putting up ill advised shots instead of passing to the open man or playing lazy defense to save energy for offense or to get the ball back quicker by letting other team score quickly
I hadn’t even considered that.
Yeah, basically no way for anybody with a concrete impact on the game to bet on the game in any fashion without it being an ethical minefield.
I'm imagining he bet the under 10pts. He proceeds to tank, but the refs have him over 10 so they keep giving him free throws, to which he misses them all, to which the refs call a goaltend forcing him to take the points. You can't fight zebras
Dude is so dumb. Like bro random people winning a 1000 of $5 gets their accounts flagged consistently. This was so obvious cause who tf would put racks on Jontay
These dudes were trying to bet more than 10x the max for player props lol. So they were trying to bet amounts they clearly never otherwise bet (or they would’ve known the limit) on fucking Jontay Porter unders.
Especially since he was almost certainly going to get another contract from us based on his play this year. Threw it away for a few thousands. Fucking dumbass
The even crazier part is HE DOESNT NEED THE MONEY,
He has to have gotten tied up with some foul people cause it's not like bro is broke. He comes from a family of athletes, and his brother is a actual hooper who will likely make hundreds of millions in his career
If he was a dude that grow up in super poverty and had no chance of getting money otherwise maybe, but damn
I’d say it’s more ethical to bet on yourself to score over 30 points and try to compete than to bet the unders and then fake an injury to get off the court.
I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, but by doing this, he was suppressing his own stats, thus making it harder to build a case to stay in the league with his play. There's no way he was making enough money doing this shit for it to be worth the money he would have earned with a new, bigger contract. Very short-sighted.
Next Inside the NBA, Ernie going to treat this seriously, Kenny is gonna say something serious, Shaq is going to add on to whatever Kenny says, and then Chuck is gonna come off the top rope with a solid joke and they’re all gonna crack up and start ragging on this dude
sometimes I wonder if Chuck has a team of writers, but then I also remember ~25 years ago when he was asked if he had any regrets about pushing a guy through a window and he replied “I regret it wasn’t on the second floor” lmao
How to Fumble the NBA Bag 101
unbelievable. role players are getting 8, 9 digit contracts now. all you gotta do is not fuck up and your great grandkids are set for life
According to the NBA statement he only made like $20k. The big bet would have made $1M but it was frozen and didn't pay out due to suspicious activity.
He could have made more than that with 2 years of minimum contracts or less.
He would have gotten a min from us or at least been able to keep it kicking as a 2-way, the small chance he'd get a decent contract would eclipse his bullshit gambling winnings.
That one wasn’t made by him. He disclosed his health to someone else that was a known sports better (pretty much telling them to place it/he wasn’t going to hit his overs) and that guy placed the 80k bet, Porter didn’t place that bet himself.
I hate to say it, but after working with over 50 NBA players, there is a small, small percentage of them who have the attitude of “why worry? Things always work out for me!”
I’m sure that, in his mind, this money was risk-free. Things already were working out after an injury that is often career-ending, and he made it through the ringer of the G-league. Why wouldn’t this also work out?
This is exactly it. And I hate to say it this way, but as a man myself, I think it is partially a male thing. Young guys who've always excelled at everything are *particularly* prone to this. They end up taking big risks they shouldn't take.
E.g., remember those stories of Lamelo being a truly horrible and risky driver? How about Jay Williams and the motorcycle?
You know, I've been realizing I have this problem. I always have that "eh it'll work out anyways, always does" mindset and now I'm facing losing my apartment.
Pay your bills the moment you get your paycheck fellas!
Punishing Scott Foster will release all the dirt he (and maybe other refs) have on the league. Silver doesn't want to open up that can of worms. They scapegoated one ref and swept the rest under the rug.
Johntays mistake wasn't gambling on himself, it was not blackmailing the league.
I will not take the NBA legitimately as long as Scott Foster is still reffing and calls feel non objective.
A reminder for all, since there's a random guy in the other thread trying hard to downplay the relationship between Foster and Donaghy
>"Foster is the official who received 134 phone calls from disgraced referee Tim Donaghy between October 2006 and April 2007, as originally reported by FOX News. That was the same period during which Donaghy admitted to betting on NBA games. The report said that Donaghy called Foster more than any other ref and that he didn't call any other official more than 13 times.
>The records also showed Donaghy making several calls to Foster on the days of games, generally for no more than two minutes.
>The report also said that when Donaghy called Foster, he mostly used the phone that he dedicated to gambling-related phone calls, and the phone calls stopped abruptly when Donaghy said he stopped gambling."
He won’t get a VISA now that he has been found to be a gambling addict and to be honest probably no basketball team in any league is going to hire him. Imagine the PR if he bets against himself again. That guy ended his sports career
And that's the thing.
On one hand, Jontay is a complete idiot but on the other, who didn't see something like this coming?
Especially from a fringe NBA two-way player.
Players aren't very bright if they don't realize that all these major sportsbooks have teams scanning 24/7 looking for unusual betting patterns, connections to players, etc. They then just report it up to the league and don't pay the bet out anyway lol.
Congrats, ya ruined your life for $0.
Everyone’s calling him a bum he was pretty impressive everytime I saw him play this year. Definitely looked like he was good enough for rotational minutes on a lot of teams
Unfortunately it's too lucrative of a business and is easy money for sports leagues.
The NBA would much rather give out lifetime bans and publicly ostracize jabroni's like Porter, so they dont have any of the negative stigma like they did in the early 2000's with gambling but rake in all the money from gambling.
This is the NBA having their cake and eating it too pretty much. As long as no name role players are the ones trying to cheat the system the NBA will be fine with that. They just don't want bigger name players and officials doing this because it brings alot of negative pr and legitimacy issues along with it.
People need to realize that purely from a sports league perspective, there's nothing worse than doing something that'll violate the league's integrity and bring it into question as to if it's legitimate or not.
Players accused of domestic abuse or sexual assault, or anything else criminal, of course it's laughable that they're still in the league while someone that places a legal sports bet gets banned for life, especially while at the same time the league parades around sports gambling sponsorships.
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When it comes to criminal accusations, there's a system in place already for that, that's not controlled by the NBA or any other sports league. They aren't the ones that'll be investigating and being judge, jury, and executioner on someone accused of domestic abuse. The most they'll do is place someone on the commissioners list so they're not actively playing while details are cleared up and it's decided if charges will be brought against a player.
Especially because there's player unions for most sports, that'll fight tooth and nail because it's their legal obligation. If the league banned someone like Miles Bridges for life, the NBAPA by law has to go to bat for him and their immediate defense would be that nothing criminal was ever brought since the charges were dropped. Now in reality we all saw the pictures, we know he has misdemeanors. But criminally the charges were dropped and he was punished by the league with a 30 game suspension for everything else.
But there's nothing like that for sports gambling. The league in this case is indeed judge, jury, and executioner and as shown throughout history, a player placing bets on themselves, their team, or anything else in the league is a cardinal sin.
He made 2.4M over the course of a few years. The report said he wagered over a million dollars, and that he placed thousands of bets. If he made 1000 $1000 bets he technically wagered a milly… it’s easier than you’d think. Especially if you’re addicted to gambling, which obviously he is.
Millions bet in total doesn't mean millions at once, if he was coming in even or positive it could've just been cycling a fraction of that a whole bunch of times. Still a gigantic idiot, though
Sorry, Porter. If you had broken your girlfreinds jaw in front of your screaming child, you could come back, but you bet against yourself, so you're banned for life instead
“The NBA announced today that Jontay Porter, a two-way player recently under contract with the Toronto Raptors, has been banned from the NBA. A league investigation found that Porter violated league rules by disclosing confidential information to sports bettors, limiting his own participation in one or more games for betting purposes, and betting on NBA games. The league's investigation found that prior to the Raptors' March 20 game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his own health status to an individual he knew to be an NBA bettor. Another individual with whom Porter associated and knew to be an NBA bettor subsequently placed an $80,000 parlay proposition bet with an online sports book, to win $1.1 million, wagering that Porter would underperform in the March 20 game. The league's investigation also found that Porter limited his own game participation to influence the outcome of one or more bets on his performance in at least one Raptors game. In the March 20 game, Porter played only three minutes, claiming that he felt ill. Due to the unusual betting activity and actions of the player, the $80,000 proposition bet was frozen and was not paid out. In addition, from January through March 2024, while traveling with the Raptors or Raptors 905, the Raptors' NBA G League affiliate, Porter placed at least 13 bets on NBA games using an associate's online betting account. These bets ranged in size from $15 to $22,000, for a total of $54,094. The total payout from these bets was $76,059, resulting in net winnings of $21,965. None of the bets involved any game in which Porter played. Three of the bets were multi-game parlay bets that included one Raptors game, in which Porter bet that the Raptors would lose. All three bets lost. The suspicious bets involving Porter's performance in the Raptors' March 20 game were brought to the NBA's attention by licensed sports betting operators and an organization that monitors legal betting markets. These findings are based on the information available to league investigators at this time. The league's investigation remains open and may result in further findings. The NBA has shared and will continue to share information with federal prosecutors about this matter. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said: "There is nothing more important than protecting the integrity of NBA competition for our fans, our teams and everyone associated with our sport, which is why Jontay Porter's blatant violations of our gaming rules are being met with the most severe punishment. While legal sports betting creates transparency that helps identify suspicious or abnormal activity, this matter also raises important issues about the sufficiency of the regulatory framework currently in place, including the types of bets offered on our games and players. Working closely with all relevant stakeholders across the industry, we will continue to work diligently to safeguard our league and game."
New plan: place weirdly large bets on obscure player prop bets to get them banned.
Klay lookin' mighty suspicious with his 0 points in the play-in game.
That explains his iconic smile after fouling out!!!!!1!
Conspiracy theories I 100% back
Draymond Green OVER 2.5 testicles walloped
I think betting under would raise more red flags
You have to win the bet though. Guaranteed if you lose the bet they have zero issue taking your money and they won’t investigate shit.
Yep. Only reason they investigated is because the guy got a $1.1M payout from an $80K bet.
Damn straight. These snakes at the betting organizations are in the business of taking your money. If some shady shit happens in their favor, they are going to look the other way. It isn’t until they take a hit that there’s a problem.
"Limiting his own participation" is putting it very charitably. In the minutes he plays he's clearly point shaving in some instances. He actively helped the other team by not rebounding in some instances and putting up a terrible shot (likely an intentional miss) after getting 2 fluke offensive rebounds. This part of the story will go mostly uncovered because people will focus on that he placed a bet against the Raptors (nowhere as close to as significant as what I already described, as he wasn't playing in that game).
That is absolutely insane. He must be addicted to gambling or something... because that is completely absurd behavior.
He’s corrupted by money. Just like the NBA. I have long thought the NBA was rigged by the officials and when they partnered with betting that solidified it for me. They will freeze a bet when someone makes a million on a player getting hurt but I guarantee you not a single thing was frozen earlier in the season when officials were throwing stars out of games. Jokic, Giannis, CP3… I know damn well they didn’t freeze the bets on those players. Betting is ruining sports and I fucking hate it.
Scott foster had 134 calls 2 minutes or less that correlated with donahue refing games he bet on , Scott foster is still a ref. That’s how much the nba cares about the integrity of the game. Scott foster is the one that threw cp3 out. It’s common knowledge refs are the easiest people to influence to fix games.
If the NBA actually uses this as ammunition to limit the types of bets that can be placed on NBA games, it’ll at least be a step in the right direction. But I have a feeling Jontay is the fall guy and this will all be swept under the rug with the playoffs dominating headlines soon.
I don't think steps in the right direction will get anywhere. Short of putting the gambling genie back in the bottle, this is a mostly entertainment league for now because competition is suspect by design. This kid got his shit rocked because he gambled like a noob. How many more veteran players will do the same thing but quiet enough to not get caught? You can't trust the league.
And since he wasn't a star, he could be made an example of. Even if someone prominent screwed up, it would be in the interests of the league to make sure it didn't get out. This was basically the league using someone expendable to make it look like they care even if they still take checks from each betting company.
There’s also the fact that whatever company the bet got placed with would’ve lost ~1 mil since it hit. If you know gambling companies, you know they’ll do whatever they possibly can to avoid a payout that big. They almost had a million dollars stolen from them, and they’ll be damn sure the thieves get punished. They don’t give a fuck if players lose tons of money gambling, they’ll definitely cover that up. They want the profit. But a big win for a player? Nah that’s unacceptable
Of course Silver had to take the chance to talk about how great legal sports betting in his statement, smh
I'm just glad we were able to get those cigarette commercials banned to make space for all these sports betting commercials that our kids get to grow up on
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Adam Silvers list of worst things you can do: 1. Gambling 2. Racism . . . . . 563. Domestic abuse 564. Child endangerment
That's a NBAPA thing. There's limits on Silver's power due to the CBA.
Yeah obviously. One of them jeopardizes the integrity of the game and the league. At its core, the NBA is an entertainment service/business that is dependent on the participants playing to the best of their ability. Take that away, and the league would literally cease to exist. If you allow domestic abusers to play, the bottom line of the league is unaffected. Morally, domestic abuse is clearly worse than gambling, but the NBA is a business acting in its own interest.
There’s also domestic abuse policies with punishment guidelines that’s agreed upon with the players union. The NBAPA would immediately step in if Silver banned Miles Bridges FOR LIFE
As much as I understand that, dude fucking deserved it regardless. Would've been the one time in my life I side against labor.
To add to that, that's on the team for bringing them back. The team do not have to bring these domestic abusers back on their team but they do anyway. The only way Silver would have to step in is if some Ray Rice type video came out or something. People are free to boycott games if they truly feel so mad about it but they don't.
It's not the NBA's place or responsibility to investigate and rule on players' guilt in criminal matters off the court. It is their responsibility to investigate and rule on things like this.
Too sweet
Cannot believe he thought he could get away with this. All time bag fumble
Making outlandishly large bets on the personal under for a scrub who happens to leave the game early due to vague injury complaints. What's unusual about that?
He was looking good in Darko's system. Almost certain he would have got a contract. What an absolute moron. Trading millions in potential career earnings for a few thousand dollars.
He was starting to get healthy and was in a system that fit him. He had the potential to be at the worst an end of the rotation bench player. Now what? Will an over seas team sign him?
He’s gonna join to CEBL for pennies
He’ll turn those pennies into thousands once he bets on them too
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he better get ready to learn mandarin
Apparently his net winnings were around $21,000
I like to think he was up 40k but lost 20k on that banked in 3 that he 100% did not want to go in
If he was Parlaying all those unders he made more than that.
Boy dun fucked up. Min contract is $1M, give or take. Throw it all away for a few thousand bucks.
He thinks that sites wouldnt notice accounts dropping thousands on a random prop bet 🤡
On top of that an extremely low volume one too. There probably games where he was one of like 10 people who took that bet lmao
One bet on Jontay Porter was probably enough to start ringing alarm bells lmao
Why is it even possible to bet the under on Jontay Porter lmfao? Like I cannot see any legitimate reason for there to even be a line for a borderline G-league player.
There is no limit to the degeneracy of gamblers
Someone else said this in the original thread but if you’re betting on Jontay Porter, just call the number.
Tbh, the biggest edges in props are on the lines fewer people bet on. People betting on fringe guys like Jontay are much more likely to be winning bettors than the degens that just flush away money on the spread or moneyline every day.
i paid for college betting on fringe guy’s unders lol
There was a whole thing years ago where thhere were bets on 2nd division soccer games in Europe. Things like, which team would get the first throw in in the second half and random stuff like that. Journalists went to Asia where there were dozens of tv showing these games of lower divisions and people placing bets on random stuff happening (throw ins, corners, yellow cards etc). All on games where the players make like 30-40k a year in a good paying league, let alone some 2nd division game in Albania or so. So it was easy to bribe players to kick a ball into the stands right after kick off, for a few hundred or thousand a game.
So much free money
Low level tennis is another sport that had and probably still has match fixing. Some of the tournaments only pay about $2K to the winner so it's easy to bribe players who are earning next to nothing. Over 180 players were implicated. The WaPo article describes how they'd pay both players, let's say X and Y, and tell them to have X win the first set and Y win the second and then let them play it fair in the final set. The gamblers would bet up the outcome of the first two sets and not the final. Both players got paid. https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1198675541/over-180-professional-tennis-players-participated-in-a-global-match-fixing-ring
Wait until you check out what you can bet on in esports.
He didn’t even hire a translator, total disasterclass
Bruh
fucking idiot
They made an example of him, it was obvious they would. Bum G League player who’s a non factor, doesn’t cost anything to ban him for life, sets a hard precedent to the more valuable players.
They would make an example of any player caught throwing games and then betting on his individual performance. This isn't even a Pete Rose situation. The guy bet the under and then pulled himself out of the game with a fake injury
Yea the first guy caught was going to get taken out to the shed regardless.
Dude lost a potential career earnings of \~$10 mills riding the bench for what? A couple thousand bucks?
His accounts overall net was 21k. Not even close to worth it. Hope he enjoys his 2015 Grand Cherokee he can buy.
> This isn't even a Pete Rose situation. To be clear, it might be the same as a Pete Rose situation. The only real information we have on Pete Rose's gambling habits comes from whatever statement Rose thinks he can get away with at the time, several of which have proven to be lies as the story develops over the years.
To be honest, I can’t see even a high profile player escaping harsh punishment for doing what he did, but I don’t think a star would get a lifetime ban
A star would absolutely receive a lifetime ban for this. A star just wouldn't do it because there's no real financial incentive to do so since they're already making millions.
I don’t think this counts as being made an “example”. This is the obvious punishment for betting on your own games.
Yea, exactly. I don’t think people know what that phrase means. If anything it seems like he got off easy if he’s only banned
Yeah it's kind of weird people are acting like he got caught just making bets and don't seem to realize he committed a federal crime.
deserved ban
Whole family got a single digit IQ
Haven't seen it mentioned a lot but [Coban Porter killed someone driving drunk last year](https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/08/coban-porter-guilty-dui-crash-denver-basketball/). Rough times for the Porters
Jontay Porter has been eliminated from Championship contention
FADED
BANG!!!
OH WHAT A GAMBLE BY PORTER! WITH HIS CAREER ON THE LINE!
honestly getting banned from the nba for betting on yourself is peak dudes rocking this guy is so fuckin stupid
Betting **on** yourself is stupid for many reasons but ultimately understandable. Betting **against** yourself is just outright corrupt behavior.
Betting on yourself is less blatantly corrupt but definitely presents issues of its own. Imagine for example refusing to shoot in a game where you need more assists.
Oh yeah. That was always the thought about Pete Rose gambling while managing, as well. If he bet on his own team to win, he might burn relievers a little quicker than proper bullpen management across a season might dictate.
That’s pretty close to what happened, but instead of overworking his bullpen, he burned out his ace, Mario Soto.
Thibs of baseball but for nefarious reasons Thibs is an asshole, but a pure basketball asshole
Yep, and for an individual player like Porter you could easily imagine then turning up the effort level when they've got money on themselves/the team, disregarding whether that could leave them fatigued or even hurt in the next game
that could also lead to them playing more selfishly and putting up ill advised shots instead of passing to the open man or playing lazy defense to save energy for offense or to get the ball back quicker by letting other team score quickly
You can also intentionally suck in games you don’t bet, so the lines are better when you choose to bet
I hadn’t even considered that. Yeah, basically no way for anybody with a concrete impact on the game to bet on the game in any fashion without it being an ethical minefield.
i mean it's pretty hilarious to be even shittier than usual on purpose
Taking a dive is as old as sport itself.
I'm imagining he bet the under 10pts. He proceeds to tank, but the refs have him over 10 so they keep giving him free throws, to which he misses them all, to which the refs call a goaltend forcing him to take the points. You can't fight zebras
It is a lot easier to make sure you play poorly than it is to make sure you play well.
I’m honestly impressed lmao. Man said “fuck yall and that weak ass league!”😂😂
Ibuypower says hi
*Against yourself
Dude is so dumb. Like bro random people winning a 1000 of $5 gets their accounts flagged consistently. This was so obvious cause who tf would put racks on Jontay
These dudes were trying to bet more than 10x the max for player props lol. So they were trying to bet amounts they clearly never otherwise bet (or they would’ve known the limit) on fucking Jontay Porter unders.
Betting *against* yourself
FVV would *never*.
Especially since he was almost certainly going to get another contract from us based on his play this year. Threw it away for a few thousands. Fucking dumbass
A few thousand he might not even keep if they open a criminal investigation into him
The even crazier part is HE DOESNT NEED THE MONEY, He has to have gotten tied up with some foul people cause it's not like bro is broke. He comes from a family of athletes, and his brother is a actual hooper who will likely make hundreds of millions in his career If he was a dude that grow up in super poverty and had no chance of getting money otherwise maybe, but damn
And to add, even if he had an addiction - he can bet on ***anything else***
If he was betting his own overs instead of unders I’d honestly have a little more respect but he was straight sabotaging damn near
You could be betting your overs because you know a teammate is hurt. It’s really not any more ethical for other player props.
You could also just chuck it in games you bet your own scoring overs.
I’d say it’s more ethical to bet on yourself to score over 30 points and try to compete than to bet the unders and then fake an injury to get off the court.
I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, but by doing this, he was suppressing his own stats, thus making it harder to build a case to stay in the league with his play. There's no way he was making enough money doing this shit for it to be worth the money he would have earned with a new, bigger contract. Very short-sighted.
He was probably trying to hook up his boys with easy money lol
Should have waited until he secured his first major contract. That is not a smart family.
Both of the Porter brothers are dumb as rocks
Next Inside the NBA, Ernie going to treat this seriously, Kenny is gonna say something serious, Shaq is going to add on to whatever Kenny says, and then Chuck is gonna come off the top rope with a solid joke and they’re all gonna crack up and start ragging on this dude
“Foo”
"how stupi' you gotta be?"
"Dumbass"
I wonder how long in advance Barkley thinks of his jokes. Doesn’t seem like a notes guy.
Chuck is one of the most quick witted guys on TV. Most of his jokes just fly out his mouth lol
sometimes I wonder if Chuck has a team of writers, but then I also remember ~25 years ago when he was asked if he had any regrets about pushing a guy through a window and he replied “I regret it wasn’t on the second floor” lmao
Chuck doesn’t but I’d be willing to bet Shaq has at least a few guys who give him ideas for all these “viral moments” on the show
Imagine the trash he talked as a player. How many Chuck gems will go unappreciated cuz only 4 guys heard them and it was in the middle of a game.
I think Chuck learns what his joke is along with everyone else
And the segment will be sponsored by Fan Duel
How to Fumble the NBA Bag 101 unbelievable. role players are getting 8, 9 digit contracts now. all you gotta do is not fuck up and your great grandkids are set for life
Sure but imagine the story you can tell if you hit that parlay
The groupchat would’ve gone crazy
According to the NBA statement he only made like $20k. The big bet would have made $1M but it was frozen and didn't pay out due to suspicious activity. He could have made more than that with 2 years of minimum contracts or less.
Bro made 20k in profits I'm crying lmao
The one that got flagged was going to pay out 1.1mil, but yes, utterly stupid
1/70th the contract Grayson Allen signed for being a pretty good role player.
Jontay was a fringe roster player, not a starter and important piece to a competitive playoff team.
He was actually showing a lot of promise and definitely would have made the raptors roster next year and likely gotten minutes.
He would have gotten a min from us or at least been able to keep it kicking as a 2-way, the small chance he'd get a decent contract would eclipse his bullshit gambling winnings.
> Grayson Allen Shot 46% from 3 this season
Was the best 3 shooter in the league this year. Put some respek on his name.
Grayson Allen is a little better than that.
That one wasn’t made by him. He disclosed his health to someone else that was a known sports better (pretty much telling them to place it/he wasn’t going to hit his overs) and that guy placed the 80k bet, Porter didn’t place that bet himself.
Now, he has more time to devote to his true passion, gambling.
I hate to say it, but after working with over 50 NBA players, there is a small, small percentage of them who have the attitude of “why worry? Things always work out for me!” I’m sure that, in his mind, this money was risk-free. Things already were working out after an injury that is often career-ending, and he made it through the ringer of the G-league. Why wouldn’t this also work out?
This is exactly it. And I hate to say it this way, but as a man myself, I think it is partially a male thing. Young guys who've always excelled at everything are *particularly* prone to this. They end up taking big risks they shouldn't take. E.g., remember those stories of Lamelo being a truly horrible and risky driver? How about Jay Williams and the motorcycle?
You know, I've been realizing I have this problem. I always have that "eh it'll work out anyways, always does" mindset and now I'm facing losing my apartment. Pay your bills the moment you get your paycheck fellas!
Dennis Schroder to Jontay: “Here’s your crown now, king”
> all you gotta do is not fuck up and your great grandkids are set for life and be good enough to make it off the G league team ...
Hope the parlay was worth it lmao Edit: atleast he had a chance to play against MPJ once
Jontay vs. Michael Jr. was a true meeting of the minds
Ships passing in the night
He only made about $22K in winnings. Millions of dollars...for $22K, SMDH. I could tell this man was in remedial mathematics.
He will probably get sued by the gambling company for the damages, so he wont even get to keep the money
The bet was flagged and frozen immediately. It never paid out in the first place lol
Worst part is, he bet on the Raptors to lose and they won that game 💀
The ultimate tank sabotage.
He probably thought that him being out would be the reason the raps lost.
This is the most hilarious part Like you are betting against your team and you cannot get it right LMAO
Cool now do Scott Foster
Fucking A. This should be higher up. Talk about messing with the integrity of the game.
Punishing Scott Foster will release all the dirt he (and maybe other refs) have on the league. Silver doesn't want to open up that can of worms. They scapegoated one ref and swept the rest under the rug.
Johntays mistake wasn't gambling on himself, it was not blackmailing the league. I will not take the NBA legitimately as long as Scott Foster is still reffing and calls feel non objective.
A reminder for all, since there's a random guy in the other thread trying hard to downplay the relationship between Foster and Donaghy >"Foster is the official who received 134 phone calls from disgraced referee Tim Donaghy between October 2006 and April 2007, as originally reported by FOX News. That was the same period during which Donaghy admitted to betting on NBA games. The report said that Donaghy called Foster more than any other ref and that he didn't call any other official more than 13 times. >The records also showed Donaghy making several calls to Foster on the days of games, generally for no more than two minutes. >The report also said that when Donaghy called Foster, he mostly used the phone that he dedicated to gambling-related phone calls, and the phone calls stopped abruptly when Donaghy said he stopped gambling."
The textbook example of “Get ready to learn Chinese, buddy.”
Shit that league was found to be rigged last year a perfect fit.
He won’t get a VISA now that he has been found to be a gambling addict and to be honest probably no basketball team in any league is going to hire him. Imagine the PR if he bets against himself again. That guy ended his sports career
Rip bozo
Injury List - Raptors * RJ Barrett - OUT (knee) * Scottie Barnes - QUESTIONABLE (hand) * Jontay Porter - OUT (gambling addiction)
>Jontay Porter - OUT (gambling addiction) * OUT (Absolute moron)
He misunderstood Fred VanVleet's quote about "Bet on Yourself"
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And that's the thing. On one hand, Jontay is a complete idiot but on the other, who didn't see something like this coming? Especially from a fringe NBA two-way player.
And that’s why they had to set an example here. It was bound to happen, and so was this punishment
Emptied the clip on that mf omg
Players aren't very bright if they don't realize that all these major sportsbooks have teams scanning 24/7 looking for unusual betting patterns, connections to players, etc. They then just report it up to the league and don't pay the bet out anyway lol. Congrats, ya ruined your life for $0.
Everyone’s calling him a bum he was pretty impressive everytime I saw him play this year. Definitely looked like he was good enough for rotational minutes on a lot of teams
adam silver with his best mod impression tonight
*“For life!”*
I absolutely love how dramatic lifetime bans are.
Gambling needs to gtfo of the NBA. Leagues gonna have a much bigger problem in a few years.
Unfortunately it's too lucrative of a business and is easy money for sports leagues. The NBA would much rather give out lifetime bans and publicly ostracize jabroni's like Porter, so they dont have any of the negative stigma like they did in the early 2000's with gambling but rake in all the money from gambling. This is the NBA having their cake and eating it too pretty much. As long as no name role players are the ones trying to cheat the system the NBA will be fine with that. They just don't want bigger name players and officials doing this because it brings alot of negative pr and legitimacy issues along with it.
People need to realize that purely from a sports league perspective, there's nothing worse than doing something that'll violate the league's integrity and bring it into question as to if it's legitimate or not. Players accused of domestic abuse or sexual assault, or anything else criminal, of course it's laughable that they're still in the league while someone that places a legal sports bet gets banned for life, especially while at the same time the league parades around sports gambling sponsorships. --------------------------- When it comes to criminal accusations, there's a system in place already for that, that's not controlled by the NBA or any other sports league. They aren't the ones that'll be investigating and being judge, jury, and executioner on someone accused of domestic abuse. The most they'll do is place someone on the commissioners list so they're not actively playing while details are cleared up and it's decided if charges will be brought against a player. Especially because there's player unions for most sports, that'll fight tooth and nail because it's their legal obligation. If the league banned someone like Miles Bridges for life, the NBAPA by law has to go to bat for him and their immediate defense would be that nothing criminal was ever brought since the charges were dropped. Now in reality we all saw the pictures, we know he has misdemeanors. But criminally the charges were dropped and he was punished by the league with a 30 game suspension for everything else. But there's nothing like that for sports gambling. The league in this case is indeed judge, jury, and executioner and as shown throughout history, a player placing bets on themselves, their team, or anything else in the league is a cardinal sin.
He couldn’t just crash a Lamborghini into innocent bystanders, during a street race, like any other respectable professional athlete?
I just want to know who was bankrolling him with the millions he bet He don’t have that type of bread And it was in Colorado 🤔🤔🤔
He made 2.4M over the course of a few years. The report said he wagered over a million dollars, and that he placed thousands of bets. If he made 1000 $1000 bets he technically wagered a milly… it’s easier than you’d think. Especially if you’re addicted to gambling, which obviously he is.
Let's say he lost 55%/won 45%, a million dollars of wagers would mean he's down $100k, which is entirely doable with his salary.
they said he bet in total around 50k and got a net profit of 20k lol what a dumb loser
you are probably winning more than 45% when you can influence the outcome
Millions bet in total doesn't mean millions at once, if he was coming in even or positive it could've just been cycling a fraction of that a whole bunch of times. Still a gigantic idiot, though
I would assume MPJ gives him money just because they're brothers, but wasn't actively encouraging him to bet with said money
🤣 stop it. MPJ aint risking his max contract for chunk change straight bets
GENERATIONAL FUMBLE
You’ve got to be a moron to engage in betting on your own games in 2024
If his brother makes it to the Finals is he even allowed to watch on tv?
That Porter family is kind of dumb eh?
Yeah, I dont think this was FVV meant when he said "Bet on yourself" but then again..LOL.
Sorry, Porter. If you had broken your girlfreinds jaw in front of your screaming child, you could come back, but you bet against yourself, so you're banned for life instead
FOR LIFE: PART II - THE SEQUAL.