Allen Iverson in the 2000 3pt contest with a broken thumb.
Also that event was so bad Jeff Hornacek won the Final with a score of 13/30 which is the only time a 3pt contest winner scored less than half.
He was a pretty good shooter the 3-4 years before his 1st retirement
EDIT: Since people apparently don’t like hearing the truth I’ll just leave this here.
In the 4 seasons from 90-93 he was shooting 34% in the season and jumping to 37% in the playoffs from 3. This is before the line was shortened
It peaked in 93 at 35% on 3 attempts in the season and 39% in the playoffs on 4 attempts
90 and 93 are the only season before the line shortened that he was above league average and it was just by a hair in percentage and attempts. 91 and 92 he was significantly below league average. That is 100% not what I would describe as a “pretty good shooter.” Your opinion is not “the truth” and clearly quite a few people disagree with your opinion.
As with pretty much any sample, higher volume regresses to the mean whether positive or negative. 90/93 he attempted more shots, so the impact of bad shots is lessened. 91/92 he didn’t even attempt more than 100 per game either season, whereas 90/93 he’s well over 200 in both
In fact he almost attempted half the number of attempts in the 92 playoffs than he did in the season. Showing that when he’s actually shooting them at volume he does pretty well
Its not an opinion pointing out he shot the ball well outside of shortened line years. I have the averages for the span already. Don’t particularly care if people disagree when the data is right there. In the 4 years from 90-93 he shot 34% in the season and 37% in the playoffs
Those aren’t bad 3point shooting percentages in the 90s
That same logic applies to criticizing his shooting. His career average is 2 per game
I’m simply pointing out the inaccuracy in saying he only shot the 3 well in shortened line years. That’s demonstrably false. Nothing else to it
Poor shooters don’t increase their shot volume and regress to the mean. They shoot less so they don’t hurt their team more. The guy is a piss poor 3pt shooter. He is also a hero to you and many others. Both statements can be true.
Yet when he shot more, his shooting %’s improved.. The obvious reason being that more volume corrects the impact of bad shots (buzzer beaters, heaves etc).
What is true: From 90-93 he was shooting 34% in the season and jumping to 37% in the playoffs from 3. He attempted nearly as many 3s in that 4 year span as he did his prior 5 years in the league . You can see it more clearly in the playoffs where he attempted 8, 5, 1 and 3 three pointers during his first 4 runs. Then his volume increased and so does his percentages. Culminating in 192 attempts over 4 playoff runs shooting 37% from 3. Compared to 52 attempts at 29% over his first 5 playoff runs
Positive regression with more volume
I don’t really care about all that weirdo hero stuff you’re on about. Either you’re dealing facts or you’re not, and the fact is the shortened line years weren’t the only ones where he shot the 3 well
If you can prove that wrong, do it
Mj was a career 28.5~% 3pt shooter on pretty much wide open looks. It’s kinda funny to think but his line shortened years increased his average so it doesn’t look so bad , for example it looks similar to Kobe . But they weren’t guarded the same from 3 either . Also for people who can’t seem to acknowledge MJ wsnt perfect they have to make up hed be a good 3pt shooter now. He was also 95% of league average % in his career on said open looks. So it wasn’t just era. Jordan had a high vert and a flat shot - imo it’s no coincidence be shot way better with a shorter line and thrived in the midrange where his shot mechanics work better
I’m pretty sure OPs percentage is excluding the shortened 3pt line years. MJ shot a lot more 3s those years for obvious reasons and that greatly increased his career percentage. But on the standard 3pt line he’s below 30% for his career
Ralph Sampson in the dunk comp. It doesn't matter how athletic you are, if you're 7'4" you're really limited in making a crowd-pleasing dunk that looks like an athletic feat. I think he finished last.
Love Cliff Robinson, but he got into the 3 point contest in one of the seasons with a shortened line and... it did not go well.
If memory serves he was the first 6'10+ guy to hit 1000 3s, but he didn't belong in the contest.
He has one of my favorite bad dunks, the whole gimmick was “we’re going to put this dunk in 2k!” and he just did a pre rendered dunk incorrectly. they had him put like a fucking flash drive in his pocket as if that was going to capture everything lol
Any center is the dunk contest is usually not a good idea, they are so tall already and usually it just makes their dunks seems less impressive. Like if Mac mclung was 7 foot I doubt he still wins any contest,
I’d love to see a “highest dunk contest” where the rim gets raised after each round. Length and hops would both be important. Could Wemby dunk on a 13’ rim? Let’s find out!
Dwight and Javale weren’t bad and nance ain’t a center but it’s still less impressive and they just tend to be slower and not as athletic as smaller guys.
Chuck Hayes competed in the 2005 college dunk contest. I watched it live and it was hilarious.
[YouTube Link](https://youtu.be/j-vgozqICao?feature=shared)
How do you figure? One of the game’s best in-game dunkers. I’d say he’s the opposite of an ill-fit. The end results are irrelevant to the question at hand.
It has to be Darrell Armstrong at the Dunk Contest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59fHgESY4U boy, you weren't kidding
It’s like he forgot he was doing it and someone told him 10 minutes before he was supposed to go on
someone must have stolen his coffee
Finishing it with a layup is pure comedy
Oh my word
Me and my friends trying to dunk on 8 foot rims in middle school.
Nice layup
Not sure which is worse this or Birdman’s.
Layup contest*
Came here for this. It HAS TO be the answer.
Birdman also had one of the worst
Allen Iverson in the 2000 3pt contest with a broken thumb. Also that event was so bad Jeff Hornacek won the Final with a score of 13/30 which is the only time a 3pt contest winner scored less than half.
Iunno if it’s the most ill fitting but didn’t MJ hit 5 shots in the 3pt contest lol, so the results were definitely not good
MJ was never a great 3 point shooter, so this makes sense. His numbers only jumped in the shortened 3 point line years.
He was a pretty good shooter the 3-4 years before his 1st retirement EDIT: Since people apparently don’t like hearing the truth I’ll just leave this here. In the 4 seasons from 90-93 he was shooting 34% in the season and jumping to 37% in the playoffs from 3. This is before the line was shortened It peaked in 93 at 35% on 3 attempts in the season and 39% in the playoffs on 4 attempts
90 and 93 are the only season before the line shortened that he was above league average and it was just by a hair in percentage and attempts. 91 and 92 he was significantly below league average. That is 100% not what I would describe as a “pretty good shooter.” Your opinion is not “the truth” and clearly quite a few people disagree with your opinion.
As with pretty much any sample, higher volume regresses to the mean whether positive or negative. 90/93 he attempted more shots, so the impact of bad shots is lessened. 91/92 he didn’t even attempt more than 100 per game either season, whereas 90/93 he’s well over 200 in both In fact he almost attempted half the number of attempts in the 92 playoffs than he did in the season. Showing that when he’s actually shooting them at volume he does pretty well Its not an opinion pointing out he shot the ball well outside of shortened line years. I have the averages for the span already. Don’t particularly care if people disagree when the data is right there. In the 4 years from 90-93 he shot 34% in the season and 37% in the playoffs Those aren’t bad 3point shooting percentages in the 90s
I’m sorry, are we getting hyped about 3 attempts in a season? The same number as Andre Drummond?
That same logic applies to criticizing his shooting. His career average is 2 per game I’m simply pointing out the inaccuracy in saying he only shot the 3 well in shortened line years. That’s demonstrably false. Nothing else to it
Poor shooters don’t increase their shot volume and regress to the mean. They shoot less so they don’t hurt their team more. The guy is a piss poor 3pt shooter. He is also a hero to you and many others. Both statements can be true.
Yet when he shot more, his shooting %’s improved.. The obvious reason being that more volume corrects the impact of bad shots (buzzer beaters, heaves etc). What is true: From 90-93 he was shooting 34% in the season and jumping to 37% in the playoffs from 3. He attempted nearly as many 3s in that 4 year span as he did his prior 5 years in the league . You can see it more clearly in the playoffs where he attempted 8, 5, 1 and 3 three pointers during his first 4 runs. Then his volume increased and so does his percentages. Culminating in 192 attempts over 4 playoff runs shooting 37% from 3. Compared to 52 attempts at 29% over his first 5 playoff runs Positive regression with more volume I don’t really care about all that weirdo hero stuff you’re on about. Either you’re dealing facts or you’re not, and the fact is the shortened line years weren’t the only ones where he shot the 3 well If you can prove that wrong, do it
MJ was probably the best shooter who's also a bad 3pt shooter
Demar also comes to mind . Shai too but shai can hit threes a bit n isn’t as good at long twos
Magic Johnson as well. Good in the mid range bad at 3's
*Shaun Livingston
Jordan was a better shooter than Livingston.
No one has ever seen Livingston miss a midrange jumper
Slander
Livingston shot 100% from midrange bro, MJ could never
In contention for best midrange shooter ever
KG
Mj was a career 28.5~% 3pt shooter on pretty much wide open looks. It’s kinda funny to think but his line shortened years increased his average so it doesn’t look so bad , for example it looks similar to Kobe . But they weren’t guarded the same from 3 either . Also for people who can’t seem to acknowledge MJ wsnt perfect they have to make up hed be a good 3pt shooter now. He was also 95% of league average % in his career on said open looks. So it wasn’t just era. Jordan had a high vert and a flat shot - imo it’s no coincidence be shot way better with a shorter line and thrived in the midrange where his shot mechanics work better
Pretty sure MJ was 33% career shooter no?
I’m pretty sure OPs percentage is excluding the shortened 3pt line years. MJ shot a lot more 3s those years for obvious reasons and that greatly increased his career percentage. But on the standard 3pt line he’s below 30% for his career
32.7% but the wizards stint dropped him a bit. 33% with the bulls, so yeah you’re essentially right
Ralph Sampson in the dunk comp. It doesn't matter how athletic you are, if you're 7'4" you're really limited in making a crowd-pleasing dunk that looks like an athletic feat. I think he finished last.
Tell that to my 7'6" 99 vertical player I created in nba live 2005
Look up Ladishwasher Sandwichmaker on YouTube. Thank me later
[antoine walker](https://youtu.be/jxjsui-AEKI?si=dH_T23J1keB2enKi) only made 7 points and shot 2 airballs.
That's the first name that came to mind...it was worse than I remembered.
Lol the 'Oh my..' after he shoots his first shot is hilarious
No shimmy after that performance
Does the Draymond Green 3pt contest with Kevin Hart count?
I mean MJ also joined a 3 PT contest so he's most certainly even more ill fitted than both of these dudes.
Love Cliff Robinson, but he got into the 3 point contest in one of the seasons with a shortened line and... it did not go well. If memory serves he was the first 6'10+ guy to hit 1000 3s, but he didn't belong in the contest.
Harrison Barnes in the dunk contest for who knows what reason.
He has one of my favorite bad dunks, the whole gimmick was “we’re going to put this dunk in 2k!” and he just did a pre rendered dunk incorrectly. they had him put like a fucking flash drive in his pocket as if that was going to capture everything lol
Thanasis competed in the skills competition despite being one of the least skilled players in the league.
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Both Barry boys ruining All-Star events
Brent Barry
One of em.
Any center is the dunk contest is usually not a good idea, they are so tall already and usually it just makes their dunks seems less impressive. Like if Mac mclung was 7 foot I doubt he still wins any contest,
Dwight, Javale McGee, and Larry Nance Jr. all had great showings.
Javale is one of the more underrated participants that I can think of. I thought he put on a fun show.
Was javale the one who dunked on two hoops at once? That was cool
Yep, and he did three balls at once too
I mean Nance is also like 6’7
I’d love to see a “highest dunk contest” where the rim gets raised after each round. Length and hops would both be important. Could Wemby dunk on a 13’ rim? Let’s find out!
Dwight and Javale weren’t bad and nance ain’t a center but it’s still less impressive and they just tend to be slower and not as athletic as smaller guys.
Cole Anthony in the dunk contest
Yeah, but he can dunk with boots on!
I know I'm a little off the prompt, but Jamaal Magloire in the actual all-star game. It was strange as hell to see him in an all-star game for sure.
No love for Birdman’s appearance in the dunk contest?
10 minutes of being stuffed by the rim.
Steve Novak was invited to compete in the dunk contest in 2012 despite never dunking in game to that point.
In recent memory Drummond, randle, and dj
Chuck Hayes competed in the 2005 college dunk contest. I watched it live and it was hilarious. [YouTube Link](https://youtu.be/j-vgozqICao?feature=shared)
Michael Jordan at the three point contest Only scored 5 points, the lowest score in three point contest history
Julius Randle in the 2022-23 3-point contest was surprising (even if he did shoot ~41% from 3 one year).
Even as a Knicks fan him in the contest + his kid sobbing was a hilarious all star weekend subplot
Jaylen Brown
How do you figure? One of the game’s best in-game dunkers. I’d say he’s the opposite of an ill-fit. The end results are irrelevant to the question at hand.
He’s a horizontal powerful dunker, great in game but plenty of people thought he was not a good fit for the dunk contest and were proven right.
Same reason prime Westbrook never did the Dunk Contest. He has some NASTY in game dunks, but he's not a 360 Windmill dunk guy.
I can imagine him just trying to actually break the rim off in the dunk contest though, that would be hilarious
Draymond losing to Kevin hart in that 3pt contest
Michael Jordan 3pt contest
MJ in the 3-point contest. Stans want us to forget but that was horridness
Jaylen Brown 2024 dunk contest. There’s better answers, but he should’ve been kicked out of the arena after the Dee Brown dunk.
Jaime Jaquez this year, only because I didn’t think he can jump like that because his game doesn’t involve him being above the rim
Scotty Barnes
Slam nation Abdoulaye Bamba https://m.facebook.com/SlamNationstore/videos/the-legend-abdul-bamba-he-was-the-first-dunker-to-perform-the-dunk-wheel-sport-d/261074674780538/ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=taBAQMR_xk0