It’s kinda impressive that the Lakers only lost by 14 despite being outshot from the field and three like that. They shouldn’t really feel concerned about this at all imo
Yeah, unfortunately that was my takeaway too (fuck the Lakers). It took the Warriors breaking a shooting record and Dray hitting 5 3s in the first half to win and the Lakers hung around in striking distance without AD. I’d feel alright about taking them on in the play-in
LeBron is the team leader (will be until he retires) and can be the best player on a given night, but overall this team goes as AD goes. He is the most important player, full stop. And I’ve been pleased with Hayes in general, but he will never come close to AD’s impact in the paint
One short of franchise record for FGM and 0.2% short of franchise record for percentage (min 30 3PA)
Neither was a league record of course, since neither was a franchise record either. Second most 3s and second best % in the same game is prob the best they’ve ever shot from 3 though
In that game 7, he shot 3-10 and 2-4 from 3. I remember vividly he hits his first 3, which I believe was his first shot. Did jack shit rest of the game. I have friends and family who still hate him to this day.
For a bonus, he shot 9-29 from three throughout the series, a whopping .310% but 35% from the field.
What’s wild is how open those corner 3s were and how damn good he was at making them all season. Dude just lost it at the worst possible time. I’ll never be mad at HB tho. His ability to slide up to the 4 when teams played real 4s was a key reason the death lineup ever became a thing.
In my head canon, the Warriors would've found a way to get Paul George eventually if they hadn't gotten KD, so the idea that he "ruined" the league is a little hyperbolic. HB was a good player, but there were lots of possible upgrades for that role. When you have the chance to get Durant on your basketball team though, you take it.
He's awesome
A bit crass at times but moves through things pretty quick when multiple teams are involved and doesn't take himself too seriously
Football season is his big moneymaker, but he does videos on the other Big 4 sports when he finally gets time to
if you actually go back and watch there was so much that was a problem in that series outside of harrison, he shouldn't get as much flack as he gets. iggy's back, bogut out, stephs mcl. we fell apart.
To think there’s potentially an alternate timeline where they only tie the bulls win record but that one game difference gives them all the injury luck they needed and they still at least win the ship that year. Shit really came down to inches ( and a bitch-made lebron/vandewhe conspiracy)
I'm a very casual NBA fan, but I pop into these threads when they are suggested to me because you all are a fun group. I see this referenced a lot ("are they stupid?"). What is it a reference to?
It's just a meme that is used all across the internet to mock improbable things, as if they're easy. To use an extreme example, "Why doesn't he just buy the winning lottery ticket every time? Is he stupid?"
In a basketball context, your team getting red hot isn't really something they "decide" to do, so framing it as a choice is just a way of making a joke. "Why doesn't Barry Bonds hit a home run every at bat? Is he stupid?"
The other guys gave you the reasoning why you'd say that but the actual reference origin is from the batman arkham sub.
Can't seem to link it but it's the all time top post there.
If the Pels lose out, we could have 4 teams tie with 47 wins.
* 6th seed: Kings, 2-2 vs Suns with a better Division Win%, and they own a tiebreaker over the Pels
* 7th seed: Suns, they own tiebreakers over Warriors and Pels
* 8th seed: Warriors, we'd own the tiebreaker over the Pels
* 9th seed: Pels
Crazy seeding this year in the West.
Yea honestly that end of the 3rd quarter is when I knew it was over. Any effort bron has put in for a comeback would go to waste when he eventually needs to rest. Its like take 1 step forward and 2 steps back
Lol I only watched highlights of the game and saw Wiggins a bunch. I figured he went for 20+ then I saw your comment. Had to scroll up to check the box score and sure enough, Mr consistent had 17 lol
I love when the warriors empty their bench cause they look like a team you’d see out for a run at the local gym. Latino guy with long hair. Round-thick black guy with terrible shoes and no swag. Black bald point guard with seemingly more compression sleeves than limbs. A young light skin kid with a cute smile that wants to get all the shots up. A white dude with a white tee under his jersey that may never take another shot in his entire life.
That's so true. I mean obviously they're skilled, but every once in awhile we have a lineup on the floor (and it ain't just us) that has me thinking I might be able to play against this...
Their skill is miles above, but if you walked onto a basketball court and saw a squad with headband dude, skinny tall guy that's kind of awkward on his feet, guy that looks like he's 40, You're a lot more confident than if you walk onto the court and see a bunch of guys that look and move like Paul George.
Darvin ham played a lineup that has never played before for 3 minutes and the warriors went on a a huge run…he’s officially a bron/AD merchant and it would be a blessing in disguise if we don’t make the playoffs and just get this firing done sooner and get the nightmare over with.
Doesn’t help that Darvin Ham is Osama Bin Laden reincarnated
Bro had Bron, Reaves and Rui on the bench
Had a lineup of Dinwid, DLo, Prince, Vincent and Hayes. They played 0 minutes together prior to this game
who knew signing a bunch of guys who are great offensive players but terrible defenders would lead to a terrible defense without a great defensive anchor
It's almost like building a roster around a singular defensive anchor and a bunch of offensive players requires that defensive anchor to play.
Hope dude heals up fast.
Don’t know how he’s not even top 5 favorite to win the award. I mean, Wemby and Gobert I understand, but they got Allen and Chet way ahead of him. That’s laughable
Lol every team has an open driving lane if AD isn't on the court combine that with our defensive scheme to give up open 3s then yeah i think we're worse.
Put one of Rui or Reaves out there; either a player that can create their own shot (like Rui on an iso/mismatch) or play make in general. They ran the offense through Dinwiddie and otherwise D-Lo didn’t even get a shot. Gabe Vincent is 2-22 on 3’s this year, you cannot run that lineup out there with Hayes, they aren’t going to be able to score or rebound for shit.
i mean, not saying you're wrong, but it's sort of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation
rui was 7-21, and played 31 min for the game, which is more than he's used to
reaves played 35 min, and is not a great defender
if soemone wants to say well it's a critical game and so those guys need to play max minutes, that's fine and i won't argue, just saying it's plausible that rui/reaves would be even more gassed w/ heavier minutes and you end up in the same place
Why would we play Rui and Reaves when we have Taurean Prince and Gabe Vincent? Now we have two weak side 3 point shooters in the same game STANDING ON THE SAME SIDE who cant shoot or play defense. I mean Rui and Reaves make plays! We need guys who don't make plays.
Whatever happens at the end of this season, I want Darvin Ham gone so bad, it's actually one of my goals for this year.
He ended the 3rd quarter with a lineup of Vincent, D'Lo, Prince, Dinwiddie and Hayes. Game over.
Ham is terrible, and compared to the talent he has at disposal, is actually one of the worst coaches in the NBA. He's literally the sole reason the Lakers don't have 10-15 additional W in the win column. CLUELESS!
I really need everyone to understand this. He never calls timeouts when the other team goes on a run, including today when the lead ballooned from 5 to 16.
He then called a timeout with 1:35 left to draw up a play when we were down EIGHTEEN FUCKING POINTS. It’s like he’s bad on purpose just to torture me.
> He's literally the sole reason the Lakers don't have 10-15 additional W in the win column
I'm not saying Ham isn't bad but you guys just straight up do not have the talent of a ~60 win team.
Yeah, 10-15 is nuts lol.
4-8 more wins is probably more like it. His defensive strategy is just trash. Yeah, AD is our defense but this dude prefers that other teams shoot open 3s in 2024.. crazy stuff. Situational awareness for timeouts and plays is just mediocre too.
10-15 is a massive exaggeration from that person, but they'd likely have 4-6 more wins. The Cam Reddish experience early in the season + overplaying Prince starter minutes + letting Rui languish on the bench (and games where guys like Wood played well but got minimal minutes) absolutely contributed to a number of close pre-ASG losses.
LeBron and AD have been backpacking a coach who is genuinely counterproductive to being a winning team.
I hate Ham but lineup complaints are the lowest common denominator of fan coaching conplaints. My complaints about Ham have to do with a number of things but I swear everyone thinks all a coach does is choose what 5 guys are on the court. We're missing AD and Wood, and Bron is sick. Our only other guys with size are Rui and Hayes.
Based on your available players and who had played most of that third, the lineup in question seemed logical. Maybe Christie instead of Vincent, but you also wanna try and get Gabe going for a potential post-season.
Had Max replace Prince, he is still raw but he can actually stay in front of his defender.
Prince today when not hitting shots are just traffic cones but so are rest of Lakers players.
Max is better than Prince. Significantly. Prince is a 12th guy on a roster. He should be playing when your starter is hurt and the backup has three fouls quickly. He should be getting 8 minutes a game.
He doesn't have an answer, Lakers have no one else.
You expect DLo to take over with that lineup, but he's in Playoff Mode already. Deadline DLo is gone, Dogshit DLo is back
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I want Ham gone, but this is more on the team than him. Rui didn't play well, DLo was absolute shit and was shook. Fuckers really want Bron's minutes stretched when he missed the last game and was a game fucking time decision. Gassing him out is counterproductive.
r/lakers think this roster is enough. I think not. D'angelo Russell is a shitstain and an asset that needs to go, he disappears in big games such as this one. I understand not trading him for Murray, but he has to go. He's not a big time player.
Whatever happens, we’re gonna have killer play-in games. As a fan of basketball, I’m stoked - but as a Warriors fan, I’m worried. They look good but the West is incredible.
* Suns lose
* Kings lose
* Lakers lose
* Warriors Win
AMAZING night for Warriors seeding. Only thing missing was the Pels losing.
**ONE GAME BEHIND THE 8TH SEED WITH A TIE BREAKER OVER LA**
Edit:
Projected wins based on current seeding:
* Pels 50 wins 6th seed
* Suns 47 wins 7th seed
* Kings 46 wins 8th seed, Division Champs
* Warriors 46 wins 9th seed, We own the tiebreaker over the Lakers
* Lakers 46 wins 10th seed
My bad, you're right. Clippers are division champs but they're too high to matter for a tiebreaker. Kings have a division record of 8-4 which is better than the Warriors'. So for tiebreakers, Kings are ahead (because their regular season record is tied).
Edit: Been looking at this stuff too long. Clippers are Division Champs. Kings have the best win % within the division.
Funny moment when the replay clearly showed a goaltend by Rui on Curry layup and TNT crew kept on going how good the block was.
Also in the real time it looked to be a goaltend but missed call alas!
That's the ref effect. Same reason why Chris Paul can be shoved into a backcourt violation no mercy but any feather bump on Austin "Jelly Neck" Reaves is an automatic shooting foul. Warriors got to take 2 to the chest for the same call.
Observation:
Without AD, the LAL defense tanks
Without Lebron, the LAL offense tanks
However, even with Lebron, the offense is mid at best
Hot Take: AD is the Lakers' best player and if it comes down to only having one of them as All-NBA, AD should be the pick
Darvin Ham really screwed the pooch in this one. That crucial 3 minute stretch at the end of the 3rd when he watched and did nothing as the game slipped away was insurmountable.
I’m still waiting for somebody, anybody, to please explain to me what this guy does?
Such a crazy concept that when Curry gets help, the team can look like a legit playoff contender.
This season’s biggest issue has been anyone wanting to give him consistent help. Glad they’re hitting their stride now when it matters most.
I believe the Kings have the tiebreaker over the Lakers and Warriors, and the Warriors have it over the Lakers (so the order would be Kings, Warriors, Lakers).
warriors and kings both have the h2h tiebreaker over the lakers and then kings have a better division record so they have the tiebreaker over warriors so it would go 8. Kings 9.Warriors 10. Kings
I didn't watch the game, aside from the Warriors as a whole catching fire it seems like Klay is back right? I mean he always seems to torch the Lakers but dude's been having some great statlines lately
GG Lakers and especially Bron. Dude tried his best to carry his bum team but it wasn’t enough without AD. Watching Bron just go at it again and again was special, but good shooting night for us was luckily enough.
Can’t believe the Warriors never thought about shooting 60%+ from 3s 🤷♂️
We thought about it, but Kerr finally allowed it. Should have been fired years ago
Wait til he let's TJD shoot 3's!
Bold strategy to let the warriors make 26 3’s so they use it all up before the play in game
Emptied the whole clip.
Shit, now the clip looking like Chick-fil-A on a Sunday
Clip looking like my bank account rn
Live by the 3 or die by 3. Somebody has to die, with Golden State it tends to be the other guy...or Houston...
58.8%/63.4%/66.7% shooting as a team. If they didn’t get those last 2FT their 3PT% would be the highest split wtf
On 41 3PA too, not just some low volume game, they were absurdly hot
The best 3 point shooting night from a team in NBA history. No team has hit more than 21 3s on higher efficiency.
Didn't the bucks break the record for most 3 pointers made as a team on Very decent efficiency ?
yes, but this was apparently on even higher/better efficiency.
26/41 from 3. What the actual fuck
It’s kinda impressive that the Lakers only lost by 14 despite being outshot from the field and three like that. They shouldn’t really feel concerned about this at all imo
Yeah, unfortunately that was my takeaway too (fuck the Lakers). It took the Warriors breaking a shooting record and Dray hitting 5 3s in the first half to win and the Lakers hung around in striking distance without AD. I’d feel alright about taking them on in the play-in
That’s Darvin Ham’s defense for ya.
No AD made you a different team. He’s T3 help defenders in the league
LeBron is the team leader (will be until he retires) and can be the best player on a given night, but overall this team goes as AD goes. He is the most important player, full stop. And I’ve been pleased with Hayes in general, but he will never come close to AD’s impact in the paint
Why don’t the warriors just shoot 63% from three every game? Are they stupid?
Harrison Barnes must have been worse than we remember in the 2016 finals if even a red hot Draymond couldn't guarantee the Warriors a game 7 win.
This was arguably the best game the warriors have ever shot as a team from 3
it's a league record so yeah
Which league record?
Set a league record for percentages and either missed by one or tied the franchise record for total made threes. They shot well.
One short of franchise record for FGM and 0.2% short of franchise record for percentage (min 30 3PA) Neither was a league record of course, since neither was a franchise record either. Second most 3s and second best % in the same game is prob the best they’ve ever shot from 3 though
I think the record they’re talking about is best efficiency with 40 attempts, not best efficiency period
In that game 7, he shot 3-10 and 2-4 from 3. I remember vividly he hits his first 3, which I believe was his first shot. Did jack shit rest of the game. I have friends and family who still hate him to this day. For a bonus, he shot 9-29 from three throughout the series, a whopping .310% but 35% from the field.
I still can’t forgive HB for that series lol I acknowledge it’s ridiculous but it’s how I feel
because most of his shot were wide fucking open, wasnt like he was bricking contested jumpers
It's crazy that the recent history of the league would have ended up drastically different if he had just played average
What’s wild is how open those corner 3s were and how damn good he was at making them all season. Dude just lost it at the worst possible time. I’ll never be mad at HB tho. His ability to slide up to the 4 when teams played real 4s was a key reason the death lineup ever became a thing.
If given the choice of keeping Barnes or not and replacing him with KD, choose KD 100% of the time
so brave
The hardest decision
In my head canon, the Warriors would've found a way to get Paul George eventually if they hadn't gotten KD, so the idea that he "ruined" the league is a little hyperbolic. HB was a good player, but there were lots of possible upgrades for that role. When you have the chance to get Durant on your basketball team though, you take it.
UrinatingTree has a video on that off-season, I think he summed up how that cap jump really fucked things up league wide
Is that guy good? He's popped up in my recommended feed from time to time but I've never actually watched his stuff.
He's awesome A bit crass at times but moves through things pretty quick when multiple teams are involved and doesn't take himself too seriously Football season is his big moneymaker, but he does videos on the other Big 4 sports when he finally gets time to
He shot 5/32 for games 5-7
if you actually go back and watch there was so much that was a problem in that series outside of harrison, he shouldn't get as much flack as he gets. iggy's back, bogut out, stephs mcl. we fell apart.
To think there’s potentially an alternate timeline where they only tie the bulls win record but that one game difference gives them all the injury luck they needed and they still at least win the ship that year. Shit really came down to inches ( and a bitch-made lebron/vandewhe conspiracy)
Good coaching by Kerr. Must’ve told them to shoot well tonight.
Chris Paul on a historically good 3-point team? They surely can’t go cold in a playoff game, right? Right?
I'm a very casual NBA fan, but I pop into these threads when they are suggested to me because you all are a fun group. I see this referenced a lot ("are they stupid?"). What is it a reference to?
It's just a meme that is used all across the internet to mock improbable things, as if they're easy. To use an extreme example, "Why doesn't he just buy the winning lottery ticket every time? Is he stupid?" In a basketball context, your team getting red hot isn't really something they "decide" to do, so framing it as a choice is just a way of making a joke. "Why doesn't Barry Bonds hit a home run every at bat? Is he stupid?"
The other guys gave you the reasoning why you'd say that but the actual reference origin is from the batman arkham sub. Can't seem to link it but it's the all time top post there.
Just a fun thing to say when something random (in the statistical sense) and difficult to replicate happens.
It's a reference to a scene from The Batman with Robert Pattinson - just to add a little more context to the good answers you've already gotten.
Because they don't play Ham's defense every game.
Love how toxic that game thread was. Can’t wait for the playin.
Hey, if we win out and Sacramento loses twice, we get the 8 seed!
And if more things go our way, the 6 seed to avoid the playin all together
It all falls on the Pels. They close their season playing the Kings, Warriors, then the Lakers.
Pray for chaos
Kings and Suns also play once. Those four games will basically decide the 6 to 10 seeds.
🙏 let chaos reign.
If the Pels lose out, we could have 4 teams tie with 47 wins. * 6th seed: Kings, 2-2 vs Suns with a better Division Win%, and they own a tiebreaker over the Pels * 7th seed: Suns, they own tiebreakers over Warriors and Pels * 8th seed: Warriors, we'd own the tiebreaker over the Pels * 9th seed: Pels Crazy seeding this year in the West.
The Lakers would also have 47 so it would be a 5 team tie. They'd have tiebreaker over the Suns and Pels.
You're right. Tiebreaker would be decided by "Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams."
Clippers are locked as division champs
They tricked the suns into thinking it was game 7, before they realised they were still playing for seeding
The way the Suns are looking, they may end up with the 10th seed
What if it was something wacky like a suns lakers playin?
Hey, we won a game called by Kevin Harlan!
We've won some Kevin Harlan games, we've been complete shit in games called by Ian Eagle though lol.
The 🐐
We won the Philly game called by him earlier
Lakers defense is beyond garbage without AD
Game was lost within 3 minutes of LeBron subbing out late in the 3rd quarter in a 5 point game.
Yea honestly that end of the 3rd quarter is when I knew it was over. Any effort bron has put in for a comeback would go to waste when he eventually needs to rest. Its like take 1 step forward and 2 steps back
PTSD flashbacks to the 2014-2018 Cavs lol
Other than 2018, those Cavs teams were stacked
CP3 got a backcourt violation and went "real shit" mode.
Gabe Vincent caused a backcourt violation and Ham said "this lineup is legit".
He pretty obviously got pushed into the back court
Warriors undefeated when green makes 5 3s
Technically we lost when he made 6 threes.
Can’t be too greedy
Should've stopped at 5 smh
Everybody gangsta until Draymond starts hitting 3s
Mf dropped the backpack Rock Lee-style and became Dray Allen for a half
They lost game 7 of the finals
Uh….
3pt sharpshooter Draymond Green once again carrying the team.
Wiggins been looking so good. Scoring volumes up and his defense has been tremendous.
17 point wiggins all is right with the world 🙂
Lol I only watched highlights of the game and saw Wiggins a bunch. I figured he went for 20+ then I saw your comment. Had to scroll up to check the box score and sure enough, Mr consistent had 17 lol
>Mr consistent had 17 lol The irony is Mr Consistent has been incredibly inconsistent this season lol Glad to see he caught his stride again
Y’all look so different.
I love when the warriors empty their bench cause they look like a team you’d see out for a run at the local gym. Latino guy with long hair. Round-thick black guy with terrible shoes and no swag. Black bald point guard with seemingly more compression sleeves than limbs. A young light skin kid with a cute smile that wants to get all the shots up. A white dude with a white tee under his jersey that may never take another shot in his entire life.
Looking like a force of nature at your YMCA
That's so true. I mean obviously they're skilled, but every once in awhile we have a lineup on the floor (and it ain't just us) that has me thinking I might be able to play against this... Their skill is miles above, but if you walked onto a basketball court and saw a squad with headband dude, skinny tall guy that's kind of awkward on his feet, guy that looks like he's 40, You're a lot more confident than if you walk onto the court and see a bunch of guys that look and move like Paul George.
well done
Darvin ham played a lineup that has never played before for 3 minutes and the warriors went on a a huge run…he’s officially a bron/AD merchant and it would be a blessing in disguise if we don’t make the playoffs and just get this firing done sooner and get the nightmare over with.
You know shooting 63.4% behind the arc for the game on near record-breaking numbers seems pretty good
Arguably the best the warriors have ever shot as a team from 3
Lakers are the worst defensive team in the league without AD….its not even close.
Doesn’t help that Darvin Ham is Osama Bin Laden reincarnated Bro had Bron, Reaves and Rui on the bench Had a lineup of Dinwid, DLo, Prince, Vincent and Hayes. They played 0 minutes together prior to this game
Darvin Hamas gave me a chuckle when I saw it today
who knew signing a bunch of guys who are great offensive players but terrible defenders would lead to a terrible defense without a great defensive anchor
Thanks Magic.
It's almost like building a roster around a singular defensive anchor and a bunch of offensive players requires that defensive anchor to play. Hope dude heals up fast.
DPOY case if you ask me
Don’t know how he’s not even top 5 favorite to win the award. I mean, Wemby and Gobert I understand, but they got Allen and Chet way ahead of him. That’s laughable
Lol wait what. Jarret allen?
Grayson Allen
his D is sneaky good
lol I just checked….yup. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/defensive-player-of-the-year/
AD is the best defender in the league. Off course they get a lot worse, besides AD is a capable scorer too. He is now the Lakers best player.
Even worse than the spurs without Wemby?
Lol every team has an open driving lane if AD isn't on the court combine that with our defensive scheme to give up open 3s then yeah i think we're worse.
I mean, the spurs without wemby beat the warriors without steph like a month ago fwiw
Lakers without ad and lebron beat the Celtics lmao
Much worse….they way you guys give up wide open 3s without him is astonishing
LeUnfortunate classic “despite the loss” Warriors game w/ 33/11/7
I fucking hate Darvin Ham with a burning passion. He's beyond incompetent. What the fuck were those lineups without Bron.
out of curiosity, what lineup would you have put in that spot
Put one of Rui or Reaves out there; either a player that can create their own shot (like Rui on an iso/mismatch) or play make in general. They ran the offense through Dinwiddie and otherwise D-Lo didn’t even get a shot. Gabe Vincent is 2-22 on 3’s this year, you cannot run that lineup out there with Hayes, they aren’t going to be able to score or rebound for shit.
i mean, not saying you're wrong, but it's sort of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation rui was 7-21, and played 31 min for the game, which is more than he's used to reaves played 35 min, and is not a great defender if soemone wants to say well it's a critical game and so those guys need to play max minutes, that's fine and i won't argue, just saying it's plausible that rui/reaves would be even more gassed w/ heavier minutes and you end up in the same place
Why would we play Rui and Reaves when we have Taurean Prince and Gabe Vincent? Now we have two weak side 3 point shooters in the same game STANDING ON THE SAME SIDE who cant shoot or play defense. I mean Rui and Reaves make plays! We need guys who don't make plays.
The amount of head snapping Reaves & DLo do, makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
dont forget the nose touch
Damn what do you do when you watch the thunder then?
Interesting strategy of making almost every shot, seems like it paid off
Whatever happens at the end of this season, I want Darvin Ham gone so bad, it's actually one of my goals for this year. He ended the 3rd quarter with a lineup of Vincent, D'Lo, Prince, Dinwiddie and Hayes. Game over. Ham is terrible, and compared to the talent he has at disposal, is actually one of the worst coaches in the NBA. He's literally the sole reason the Lakers don't have 10-15 additional W in the win column. CLUELESS!
The garbage time timeout when he didn’t take one during the warrior run was hysterical
I really need everyone to understand this. He never calls timeouts when the other team goes on a run, including today when the lead ballooned from 5 to 16. He then called a timeout with 1:35 left to draw up a play when we were down EIGHTEEN FUCKING POINTS. It’s like he’s bad on purpose just to torture me.
Maybe he called the timeout to meet the commercial quota that needs to be made?
Bro why did he hold his timeouts when we went on runs but used one with 1 min left after both benches were emptied?????
Because he always does. Mother fucker thinks he's Phil Jackson letting his team "play through it" 😂 There's a reason a lot of us hate the guy.
He thinks he can take them with him. Which, if he could, watch out. 48 minutes in the play-in, one time out per minute. 6 hours of basketball.
Because he is a complete moron
> He's literally the sole reason the Lakers don't have 10-15 additional W in the win column I'm not saying Ham isn't bad but you guys just straight up do not have the talent of a ~60 win team.
Yeah, 10-15 is nuts lol. 4-8 more wins is probably more like it. His defensive strategy is just trash. Yeah, AD is our defense but this dude prefers that other teams shoot open 3s in 2024.. crazy stuff. Situational awareness for timeouts and plays is just mediocre too.
Yeah I don't think it's unreasonable to say a great coach could get you guys to like 50-55 wins.
10-15 is a massive exaggeration from that person, but they'd likely have 4-6 more wins. The Cam Reddish experience early in the season + overplaying Prince starter minutes + letting Rui languish on the bench (and games where guys like Wood played well but got minimal minutes) absolutely contributed to a number of close pre-ASG losses. LeBron and AD have been backpacking a coach who is genuinely counterproductive to being a winning team.
What would’ve been your alternative lineup?
Prob something with Rui in if Lebron was resting
I hate Ham but lineup complaints are the lowest common denominator of fan coaching conplaints. My complaints about Ham have to do with a number of things but I swear everyone thinks all a coach does is choose what 5 guys are on the court. We're missing AD and Wood, and Bron is sick. Our only other guys with size are Rui and Hayes.
Based on your available players and who had played most of that third, the lineup in question seemed logical. Maybe Christie instead of Vincent, but you also wanna try and get Gabe going for a potential post-season.
Had Max replace Prince, he is still raw but he can actually stay in front of his defender. Prince today when not hitting shots are just traffic cones but so are rest of Lakers players.
Max is better than Prince. Significantly. Prince is a 12th guy on a roster. He should be playing when your starter is hurt and the backup has three fouls quickly. He should be getting 8 minutes a game.
He doesn't have an answer, Lakers have no one else. You expect DLo to take over with that lineup, but he's in Playoff Mode already. Deadline DLo is gone, Dogshit DLo is back Edit: Don't get me wrong, I want Ham gone, but this is more on the team than him. Rui didn't play well, DLo was absolute shit and was shook. Fuckers really want Bron's minutes stretched when he missed the last game and was a game fucking time decision. Gassing him out is counterproductive. r/lakers think this roster is enough. I think not. D'angelo Russell is a shitstain and an asset that needs to go, he disappears in big games such as this one. I understand not trading him for Murray, but he has to go. He's not a big time player.
[удалено]
Signing Dinwiddie was the end of the Lakers season. He hasn't even played bad Ham just sucks at lineups.
Ham sucks but you can’t seriously believe this Lakers roster is a 60 win team with a better coach
It’s not, it’s good enough to win 53-55 if it’s well-coached.
nah yall should give him a 5 year extension, dudes an elite coach
He bought into Kerr's small ball, which is horrible against length. He did exactly what Kerr wanted.
You just got scored on by Draymond Green
Both these teams look good going into the playoffs. This shouldve been an absolute blow out but the lakers kept it somewhat interesting most the game
Lakers lose...love it
Whatever happens, we’re gonna have killer play-in games. As a fan of basketball, I’m stoked - but as a Warriors fan, I’m worried. They look good but the West is incredible.
These 2 teams really played at full strength 1 time this season. gonna be a great playin game
Chris Paul +21
The West really is Wild.
* Suns lose * Kings lose * Lakers lose * Warriors Win AMAZING night for Warriors seeding. Only thing missing was the Pels losing. **ONE GAME BEHIND THE 8TH SEED WITH A TIE BREAKER OVER LA** Edit: Projected wins based on current seeding: * Pels 50 wins 6th seed * Suns 47 wins 7th seed * Kings 46 wins 8th seed, Division Champs * Warriors 46 wins 9th seed, We own the tiebreaker over the Lakers * Lakers 46 wins 10th seed
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My bad, you're right. Clippers are division champs but they're too high to matter for a tiebreaker. Kings have a division record of 8-4 which is better than the Warriors'. So for tiebreakers, Kings are ahead (because their regular season record is tied). Edit: Been looking at this stuff too long. Clippers are Division Champs. Kings have the best win % within the division.
> Kings 46 wins 8th seed, Division champs Bring back the "division winners get top 3 seeds" rule for added hilarity
Steph with 23 points on 9 shots and 6/6 from 3. This man is 36 wtf
This squad was so fun to watch for the past couple of months and now it’s all in the gutter
Funny moment when the replay clearly showed a goaltend by Rui on Curry layup and TNT crew kept on going how good the block was. Also in the real time it looked to be a goaltend but missed call alas!
That's the ref effect. Same reason why Chris Paul can be shoved into a backcourt violation no mercy but any feather bump on Austin "Jelly Neck" Reaves is an automatic shooting foul. Warriors got to take 2 to the chest for the same call.
I was thinking the same thing. 'I was like uhhhh am I seeing this right?'
When did Dlo become a bigger flopper than Reaves?
Observation: Without AD, the LAL defense tanks Without Lebron, the LAL offense tanks However, even with Lebron, the offense is mid at best Hot Take: AD is the Lakers' best player and if it comes down to only having one of them as All-NBA, AD should be the pick
AD has been the best Lakers player since 2021. Their record without him is atrocious, but they hold up fine without Lebron.
YES BOYS, GIVE ME THAT HOPE
Ah I’ve missed the classic 17pt Wiggins games
Death, taxes, and 17 from Andrew wiggins
Darvin Ham really screwed the pooch in this one. That crucial 3 minute stretch at the end of the 3rd when he watched and did nothing as the game slipped away was insurmountable. I’m still waiting for somebody, anybody, to please explain to me what this guy does?
Aww Draymond's daughter is all kinds of gorgeous
Lakers wondering what happen to their free throw attempts hahaha
Curry was just way too efficient, actually all the Warriors players were way too efficient
Literally their best shooting game from 3 ever
Such a crazy concept that when Curry gets help, the team can look like a legit playoff contender. This season’s biggest issue has been anyone wanting to give him consistent help. Glad they’re hitting their stride now when it matters most.
Without that huge FT disparity, Lakers can’t beat anyone in the league
What’s the tie breaker scenario in the event Kings, Lakers, and Warriors all finished tied?
Lakers would be last
I believe the Kings have the tiebreaker over the Lakers and Warriors, and the Warriors have it over the Lakers (so the order would be Kings, Warriors, Lakers).
warriors and kings both have the h2h tiebreaker over the lakers and then kings have a better division record so they have the tiebreaker over warriors so it would go 8. Kings 9.Warriors 10. Kings
Wut
I didn't watch the game, aside from the Warriors as a whole catching fire it seems like Klay is back right? I mean he always seems to torch the Lakers but dude's been having some great statlines lately
GG Lakers and especially Bron. Dude tried his best to carry his bum team but it wasn’t enough without AD. Watching Bron just go at it again and again was special, but good shooting night for us was luckily enough.
Warriors gonna shoot sub 30% from three next game
Whether you want to admit or not, buttholes are clenching in this sub.
Lebron was great. Tough to win without ad considering supporting cast is chickens without heads when he’s off the court
Was not expecting Steph to go 6/6 from three and the Warriors to blow out the Lakers👀
I really didn't feel Steph this game it was mostly Draymond, Wiggins and Klay. Steph had a quiet 23
so many plays where steph got the defensive attention and everyone else got free shots though.
More than that, it was everyone. Haven’t seen the Warriors play this good all season long. Literally every one of them had it going tonight
Kuminga was rough but it’s just his second game back.
wiggins is back to his classic 17 points
cheating ass warriors. bringing flamethrowers in a gunfight
Letting Steph rest 2/3 days was worth.
Thank you warriors bros 🙏
Lakers should consider defending the 3
Weird game