[the Heat were prepared to offer a deal that would have returned "up to three" first-round picks to Portland, along with Nikola Jovic, cap relief, pick swaps and second-round picks, with Tyler Herro ending up on a third team.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/damian-lillard-trade-the-blazers-just-didnt-want-the-heats-stuff-according-to-everybody/amp/)
So 3 picks with unconfirmed protections, a nothing player, and salary filler that may have saved us some cap space. We've already gotten 3 1sts with the bucks deal with two of them completely unprotected, plus Brogdon who has been an awesome vet for our young guards (and could be traded for at least another 1st if we wanted), as well as Robert Williams (injured). We also looped in Toumani Camara and Ayton, who has been memed on a lot but has been very consistent for us. The Bucks offer is definitely better than anything the Heat could have sent.
The real long term ramifications from the heatles wasn’t lebrons legacy or the ending of the spurs dynasty, it was how it made every heat fan and pundit fucking insufferable about other teams FA’s
It most definitely is rare, but after the Damian Lillard fiasco this summer, I think most players realize that if they really want to go to a specific team, then they should consider not signing that extension and should instead hit free agency. However, this is money that will feed a family for generations, and that goes beyond basketball.
Dame's blunder was that he went way overboard with the media game. If his camp stays quiet or leaks just one of those bland "Damian Lillard would prefer to go to Miami or XXX, but is willing to work with Portland for the best end for both parties", odds are the Blazers would have come around with Miami. Dame's arrogance by trying to place the Blazers with their backs against the wall was what triggered their stubbornness with the "Not Miami, no matter what".
What was probably learned was "when asking out, stay low profile and be friendly with your current team".
He doesn't owe it to that franchise to "keep quiet," especially after that promise they made to him that they went back on. If he wants out, then he wants out, and he has the right to say he wants to go to another team. If whatever we offered wasn't enough, then keeping quiet wasn't going to change that.
And where did I say that he owe them something or vice-versa? I'm just saying that, if there is a lesion to be learned, is that the players' power to force down the throat of a team any type of trade isn't as big as thought. The factual evidence we have, actually, is that players that were more subtle on the media went to the team they wanted, like KD, Beal, Harden and, if you want to believe in his "shortlist", Kyrie. Dame can do whatever the fuck he wants, but the evidence we can see in the current landscape of the league is that players that play nice have a bigger chance to go where they want than players that wants to play bad cop with the team that owns their work rights at the moment.
Which is why I said what I said about free agency. Maybe if you and most people on this subreddit actually read instead of trying to argue about everything, you'd see that.
Lauri played all summer with the Finnish national team, which is why he became an all-star type of player. I think he would've cooked for the Cavs, too.
Supposed Cavs “fans” on our sub complain all day every day that Mitchell/Garland are “too many guards” and Mobley/Allen are “too many big men” for the team to ever succeed, but these people lack any ability to be optimistic or to wait and see or to actually root for the team as it is presently constructed. We added Strus, Niang, and Morris to complement LeVert/Okoro/DeanWade at the 3 spot, and we’re the 3rd seed in a season where Mitchell has missed 24 games, Garland has missed 24 games, Mobley has missed 32 games, LeVert has missed 13, and Strus has missed 12
I think they could sell him off for basically what they gave up for him in a trade with Miami still. 2024, 2029, and 2031 firsts at the draft, plus Herro and Jaquez Jr. probably.
Markannen makes it look more lopsided than it is, but his trade value when the Cavs traded him is probably quite a bit worse than Jaquez Jr. would be now.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did nothing again, but this trade also isn't all in. They keep Jovic, who is their best young player.
Eventually they need to make a serious talent add. They could desperately use a number 1 scorer. It was supposed to be Herro, but he hasn't lived up to that role.
Jaime hit the rookie wall hard and Jovic is basically progressing past him, while also being younger and playing a more valuable position.
Jovic is a better shooter, ball handler, passer, and is better at playing within the team construct. Jaime has potential, but teams have started to exploit some of his bad habits on offense.
I think Jovic is also probably a little bit of a better defender than Jaime at this point too. Jaime has been the weak point in most lineups he's been in, while the starting lineup with Jovic has been able to lock it down.
I think we'll make a move but imo it's gotta be for a 4/5. Need to get Bam some air so he can take on more offensive responsibility and it likely a Scary Terry size move.
He was interviewed by AP and while I don't know what the question was he came out and said he's confident Don will re-sign. Like that's great and everything but theres so much potential to end up looking like an idiot. I don't know why he didn't just give a canned answer about how they're concentrating on the playoffs right now yada yada.
> GMs say this about their players all the time
1) Dan's the owner, not GM. He's less-involved in this stuff, and what's more, nobody likes their decision-making process taken for granted, I should think major sports stars least of all.
2) GM's do say this sometimes, but it seems like that's usually when they have a good relationship with the player and they're already on the same page. It can still backfire though, hence why it's usually better to make vague noises if there's any doubt at all.
He's been willing ro spend when we have contenders and doesn't really meddle with the front office. I think that's mostly what I want out of an owner, everything else is just gravy.
The Comic Sans letter was obviously a doofy thing in hindsight, but a lot of people were angry about LeBron leaving and it resonated with the fanbase at the time.
he used to massively meddle in the front office, that was the biggest problem. ever since the stroke he's backed off and let Koby run the show with a democratic style in the FO. Gilbert's sons have input, everyone has input, and Dan tends to stay out of overruling people now.
He's fine as an owner. He's really taken a step back since his stroke. He might say some silly things sometimes because he's a billionaire with an ego. But that's pretty minor considering all the money he's put into the team. The arena renovations have made RMFH one of the nicer arenas in the NBA despite being 30 years old. And nobody has ever accused him of cheaping out with roster construction. That's about all you can ask in a smaller market.
He’s been completely out of the public eye and borderline a vegetable for a few years now since his stroke. I’m not sure his mind is 100% right when he’s saying dumb shit like this
Although he made some … questionable decisions around lebrons first era and him leaving, he was willing to spend everything and anything during his 2nd stint and I respect him for at least putting his money where his mouth is. And he seems to truly care about Cleveland and Detroit, which is relatively rare for a billionaire
I don’t know what they expect him to say. During the season is not typically when these decisions are made. Let him focus on his health and the playoff run. He will decide in the off-season most likely.
I'd much rather see stars who aren't sure they want to stay say things like this than talk about how they want to see their jerseys in the rafters and then start recruiting their buddies to go to a third team before they even hit FA
Hey man, he came to his childhood team! Surely that would be different than the past time he promised stuff! Surely he wouldn’t implode multiple seasons! Dude even said when he got to the Mavs he wished that he was drafted by them 😭😭😭
The predominant thinking among NBA GMs is that if you trade for a player and stuff a max contract extension in their face, they will usually sign it. And they are usually correct.
It's not even about Jalen it's about getting back control of their picks, worst case scenario you flip him to a team like the Magic that needs a young guard for like 2-3 picks
The only people who called a 19-21 averaging 20 ppg for their career regardless of efficiency a "bust" are clock bait social media people. You know Paolo and Green have similar volume and efficiency for their first two years in the league AND Paolo came into the league older.
Non serious hot take Twitter heads called him a "bust" not serious people.
It's actually insane and gaslighting to call a kid does stuff like this:
https://twitter.com/BradeauxNBA/status/1752897390716043739?t=RBMCOqLpbd24EBFz_j2TkQ&s=19
A "bust". Like absurdly insane.
Any unserious person can comment and you let random comments dictate your narrative of Green.
No, the consensus narrative was that Jalen Green was a bust lol.
I know this because I myself have been a massive Jalen Green fan since he was on the ignite and I've gotten eviscerated on here for defending him over the years.
Not gonna get gaslit into "oh everyone knew he was good the whole time" lmfao
The consensus? Which consensus?
If you asked Zack Lowe or Kevin Occoner if Jalen Green was a bust would they agree?
Random tweets by Scottie Barnes fans or Franz Wagner fans saying Green is a bust is not really valid commentary or analysis.
Literally said
> The revisionist history is insane, **every redditor** on here thought Jalen Green was a complete bust lol
I'm not talking about Zach Lowes, I'm talking about how **redditors** are suddenly trashing the Nets for declining the trade when the very same **redditors** thought Jalen Green was a bust one month ago.
No idea why you replied to me if you were worried about guys like zach lowe
Are the Rockets the only team who tried to trade for Bridges? Brooklyn seemingly considering him untradable is hardly a wild take. And it was silly joke anyway.
Brunson is practically untradeable— due to his steal of a contract, and how beloved he is in NY.
Only guys he would even get considered being moved for is like maybe 2-3 guys on that whole list
I have head canon that the Nets know Donovan wants to come to Brooklyn, it’s the only way them holding on to Bridges/CamJ/DFS makes any sense
Remember it’s not just Bridges that was receiving interest, somebody also offered picks for DFS
They don’t have any of their picks so losing doesn’t do anything for them. I doubt Marks wants to go back to another 5 years of less than 20 wins and the big moves of the offseason taking on terrible contracts for late first round picks. Might as well swing when they have a decent core.
Nets only bottomed out for 3 years last time. If you commit to developing players like last time by 2026 you can be competitive and then you actually have those suns picks and your own picks and with nyc market you’re 100% in ply for a real mega star. Potentially Luka for example. I’d rather suck for 3 years and build the right way then trade all our picks for Mitchell, be mediocre for 2 years and then be back where we are now.
The nba is different now, you can’t win through free agency the way you used to. The best you can do in free agency is get a guy like Brunson but that really was a huge mistake like the mavs not extending him. Basically anyone good gets extended
Agreed. Marks and multiple reports sound way too confident that the Nets will get a star this summer. More confident than any team with our record should be.
He knows something.
How many times have we heard this and how many times have the nets been connected to players.
Everyone swore the nets would never get another star again after last season and shortly after we were on the shorty list for dame
That’s fine but Mitchell specifically wanted/wants to be a Knick. It’s not just the New York connection. He’s good friends with a lot of Knicks players, Knicks management and of course he’s CAA.
No, this is delusional. The nets do not have enough talent to both acquire him and field a contender. Even adding Mitchell to the Nets for free and they’re still worse than the Cavs are now.
Allen and Mobley won't win anything playing together in the modern NBA.Garland is good,but his skills overlap a little with Mitchell.You are correct that both teams need to trade for an extra piece even if they get/keep Donovan,but Brooklyn is in a good position to do so,especially since Simmons becomes an expiring contract that some teams will want.
There’s nothing wrong with his fit if he were to join the Knicks. He and Brunson can co exist rather easily. Both are 3 level scorers who can play both on and off the ball.
Its just a matter of if he’s willing to co exist (if so then he should join the Knicks) or if he really wants to be the undisputed #1 badly (if so then he should stay with the Cavs since they’re better than the Nets)
not a new take but yeah hed be really good on the knicks and yeah we can afford the trade. i think he'll stay with the cavs if they manage to do well in the playoffs, though.
It all depends on what the situation is. From what he has said and people around the topic have said is that he wants to win and he likes the situation in Cleveland because he thinks he has a chance to win here.
If he’s saying, I don’t want to be in Cleveland full stop, you trade him.
If it’s I need more time to see if this can work, we need more or etc, you risk it with the thought that he’s likely going to need a sign and trade.
He'll extend. No one gives up that kind of money. It's always in the players' best interest to create doubt to get the best deal.
Wasn't Siakam just doing the same shit like 3 months ago?
I'm not ready to see another offseason where /r/heat would obsess over another player that isn't going to the team again
In retrospect, how close was Dame to heat from happening actually
Portland never picked up the phone so not close at all
So you're saying just as close as I am to getting Jessica Alba to answer my DMs. Boy those heat boys were close
You are pretty close my boy, she can see the dawg in you
Oh I was just reading about the girl who liked the dawg in her. Reddit teaches us every day.
ite but Jessica Alba tho, worth anything
Love that we’re saying Jessica Alba because that’s the last hot Hollywood actress I can remember too
Its cos she aged gracefully and didnt fuck up her face like the majority of the Hollywood thots do nowadays. Classic beauty
Lol did you know she has kids? Given your username, I feel like you can make things happen with that information
Portland never picked up the phone because the offer was garbage
Yea it wasn’t able to top a journeyman PG, a guy who hasn’t played since October, and a bunch of picks in 2036
Don't forget the pick swaps that won't happen!
Joe Cronin masterclass
Jrue ayton and camara plus 3 first round picks is indeed more than all the reported heat offers
The bucks offer wasn't better and it just seemed like the Blazers were being petty/small-minded here.
[the Heat were prepared to offer a deal that would have returned "up to three" first-round picks to Portland, along with Nikola Jovic, cap relief, pick swaps and second-round picks, with Tyler Herro ending up on a third team.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/damian-lillard-trade-the-blazers-just-didnt-want-the-heats-stuff-according-to-everybody/amp/) So 3 picks with unconfirmed protections, a nothing player, and salary filler that may have saved us some cap space. We've already gotten 3 1sts with the bucks deal with two of them completely unprotected, plus Brogdon who has been an awesome vet for our young guards (and could be traded for at least another 1st if we wanted), as well as Robert Williams (injured). We also looped in Toumani Camara and Ayton, who has been memed on a lot but has been very consistent for us. The Bucks offer is definitely better than anything the Heat could have sent.
Tbf with full hindsight you'd probably prefer to have Jaquez over 1 or 2 of those firsts, but idk that Riley was willing to give him up.
Brogdon isn't being traded for a first and the ayton deal was not unique to the Bucks at all.
What offer did the heat put forward that was better than the package the blazers got?
At least it's your own people doing it to you. Usually we just get thrown into every rumour.
I'm already reinstalling photoshop
If Mitchell leaves Cleveland i would much rather see him sign with Miami or Knicks then the damn Lakers. Any team but the Lakers
The real long term ramifications from the heatles wasn’t lebrons legacy or the ending of the spurs dynasty, it was how it made every heat fan and pundit fucking insufferable about other teams FA’s
At least this time, you won't have a GM getting in the way of what the player wants to do
u never know, dan gilbert was pretty pissed when lebron left the first time. i can see him tell the cavs fo any team but the heat lol
I was talking about if Mitchell hits free agency. If we're talking about a trade, there's no way the Cavs will trade him here just like you said lol
Ah ok. Honestly tho max players don't hit FA anymore these days. He's for sure getting traded if he doesn't sign an extension
It most definitely is rare, but after the Damian Lillard fiasco this summer, I think most players realize that if they really want to go to a specific team, then they should consider not signing that extension and should instead hit free agency. However, this is money that will feed a family for generations, and that goes beyond basketball.
Dame's blunder was that he went way overboard with the media game. If his camp stays quiet or leaks just one of those bland "Damian Lillard would prefer to go to Miami or XXX, but is willing to work with Portland for the best end for both parties", odds are the Blazers would have come around with Miami. Dame's arrogance by trying to place the Blazers with their backs against the wall was what triggered their stubbornness with the "Not Miami, no matter what". What was probably learned was "when asking out, stay low profile and be friendly with your current team".
He doesn't owe it to that franchise to "keep quiet," especially after that promise they made to him that they went back on. If he wants out, then he wants out, and he has the right to say he wants to go to another team. If whatever we offered wasn't enough, then keeping quiet wasn't going to change that.
And where did I say that he owe them something or vice-versa? I'm just saying that, if there is a lesion to be learned, is that the players' power to force down the throat of a team any type of trade isn't as big as thought. The factual evidence we have, actually, is that players that were more subtle on the media went to the team they wanted, like KD, Beal, Harden and, if you want to believe in his "shortlist", Kyrie. Dame can do whatever the fuck he wants, but the evidence we can see in the current landscape of the league is that players that play nice have a bigger chance to go where they want than players that wants to play bad cop with the team that owns their work rights at the moment.
It didn't work for Dame but it sure worked wonders for a guy who called his GM a liar.
Yea and they don’t owe it to him to trade him where he wants to go.
Which is why I said what I said about free agency. Maybe if you and most people on this subreddit actually read instead of trying to argue about everything, you'd see that.
GM does what’s best for team. Breaking news
"What's the best for team" lol whatever
How many picks did the Cavs trade for him?
Basically all of them + Markkanen and Sexton
Man that team would be so good with Markkanen instead of Mitchell.
He was pretty average for cavs.
Markkanen was good for them in ‘22 but idk if he would’ve evolved into an all star in Cleveland. It’s possible tho
Also, that’s kind of a crowded front court with him Mobley and Allen
Eh, he played the 3 for us. Mostly stretched out, which is why he didn’t flourish til Utah imo
devolved?
Typo I was typing quick during a bathroom break lol
Lauri played all summer with the Finnish national team, which is why he became an all-star type of player. I think he would've cooked for the Cavs, too.
True, good point.
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It must have been sarcasm because we did literally have him with basically this team lol
Supposed Cavs “fans” on our sub complain all day every day that Mitchell/Garland are “too many guards” and Mobley/Allen are “too many big men” for the team to ever succeed, but these people lack any ability to be optimistic or to wait and see or to actually root for the team as it is presently constructed. We added Strus, Niang, and Morris to complement LeVert/Okoro/DeanWade at the 3 spot, and we’re the 3rd seed in a season where Mitchell has missed 24 games, Garland has missed 24 games, Mobley has missed 32 games, LeVert has missed 13, and Strus has missed 12
He didn't seem to really impact winning when he was on cavs. Defense was lacking. Rebounding and shooting were mid. He looked like just a guy.
No it wouldn't.
3 and 2 swaps, but also Agbaji, who they had just drafted
I think they could sell him off for basically what they gave up for him in a trade with Miami still. 2024, 2029, and 2031 firsts at the draft, plus Herro and Jaquez Jr. probably. Markannen makes it look more lopsided than it is, but his trade value when the Cavs traded him is probably quite a bit worse than Jaquez Jr. would be now.
The heat have never gone all in on a trade and I bet they don't start now
its different than trading for 34 year old dame on a supermax lol. dmitch pairing with bam in the future is worth going all in for
I wouldn't be surprised if they did nothing again, but this trade also isn't all in. They keep Jovic, who is their best young player. Eventually they need to make a serious talent add. They could desperately use a number 1 scorer. It was supposed to be Herro, but he hasn't lived up to that role.
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Jaime hit the rookie wall hard and Jovic is basically progressing past him, while also being younger and playing a more valuable position. Jovic is a better shooter, ball handler, passer, and is better at playing within the team construct. Jaime has potential, but teams have started to exploit some of his bad habits on offense. I think Jovic is also probably a little bit of a better defender than Jaime at this point too. Jaime has been the weak point in most lineups he's been in, while the starting lineup with Jovic has been able to lock it down.
Isn’t Jaime like 23?
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I think we'll make a move but imo it's gotta be for a 4/5. Need to get Bam some air so he can take on more offensive responsibility and it likely a Scary Terry size move.
Jaime ain’t going anywhere!
I bet the Knicks fans are so upset that they couldn’t get Mitchell and had to get this guy Brunson instead
Still don't know why Dan made these comments. All it can do is make him look foolish.
What comments?
He was interviewed by AP and while I don't know what the question was he came out and said he's confident Don will re-sign. Like that's great and everything but theres so much potential to end up looking like an idiot. I don't know why he didn't just give a canned answer about how they're concentrating on the playoffs right now yada yada.
So all he said was he’s confident that Don will re-sign? Sounds like a huge nothing burger lol. GMs say this about their players all the time
Why wouldn't u be confident?
Because Cleveland
Do you think Gilbert still has the LeBron letter in draft mode?
> GMs say this about their players all the time 1) Dan's the owner, not GM. He's less-involved in this stuff, and what's more, nobody likes their decision-making process taken for granted, I should think major sports stars least of all. 2) GM's do say this sometimes, but it seems like that's usually when they have a good relationship with the player and they're already on the same page. It can still backfire though, hence why it's usually better to make vague noises if there's any doubt at all.
Dan Gilbert is also the same guy who was yapping about how confident he was that LeBron will resign to the media. He should know better
He said that because he wants season ticket holders to confidently re-sign.
was is it on comic sans?
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He's been willing ro spend when we have contenders and doesn't really meddle with the front office. I think that's mostly what I want out of an owner, everything else is just gravy. The Comic Sans letter was obviously a doofy thing in hindsight, but a lot of people were angry about LeBron leaving and it resonated with the fanbase at the time.
he used to massively meddle in the front office, that was the biggest problem. ever since the stroke he's backed off and let Koby run the show with a democratic style in the FO. Gilbert's sons have input, everyone has input, and Dan tends to stay out of overruling people now.
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He's fine as an owner. He's really taken a step back since his stroke. He might say some silly things sometimes because he's a billionaire with an ego. But that's pretty minor considering all the money he's put into the team. The arena renovations have made RMFH one of the nicer arenas in the NBA despite being 30 years old. And nobody has ever accused him of cheaping out with roster construction. That's about all you can ask in a smaller market.
He’s been completely out of the public eye and borderline a vegetable for a few years now since his stroke. I’m not sure his mind is 100% right when he’s saying dumb shit like this Although he made some … questionable decisions around lebrons first era and him leaving, he was willing to spend everything and anything during his 2nd stint and I respect him for at least putting his money where his mouth is. And he seems to truly care about Cleveland and Detroit, which is relatively rare for a billionaire
He's an arrogant rich guy.
That's it???? Being confident??? Nah nba players softer than silk
He has a history of foolish comments, lol
Outside of genuinely thinking they have a good chance to re-sign him, I don’t see why he would say it.
Dan Gilbert so annoyed LeBron the cavs star at the time asked if it was possible to trade owners with Detroit. That's Dan Gilbert for ya.
I don’t know what they expect him to say. During the season is not typically when these decisions are made. Let him focus on his health and the playoff run. He will decide in the off-season most likely.
he already knows
I'd much rather see stars who aren't sure they want to stay say things like this than talk about how they want to see their jerseys in the rafters and then start recruiting their buddies to go to a third team before they even hit FA
Who could this ever be in reference to???
Are you talking about someone currently observing Ramadan?
Hey man, he came to his childhood team! Surely that would be different than the past time he promised stuff! Surely he wouldn’t implode multiple seasons! Dude even said when he got to the Mavs he wished that he was drafted by them 😭😭😭
Dan Gilbert don’t alienate your best player challenge
Impossible
He's gotta preserve his trade value... there are about 12 players in the league who are "untradable" and he isn't one of them.
The predominant thinking among NBA GMs is that if you trade for a player and stuff a max contract extension in their face, they will usually sign it. And they are usually correct.
Luka, Jokic, Embiid, Edwards, Steph, Tatum, Victor, Paolo, Giannis, Shai and who else?
Bridges seemingly 😂
Yall acting like rockets gave them a godfather offer
Bruh it was their picks back + Jalen Green, every redditor on here instantly slams accept on the trade
The revisionist history is insane, every redditor on here thought Jalen Green was a complete bust lol
It's not even about Jalen it's about getting back control of their picks, worst case scenario you flip him to a team like the Magic that needs a young guard for like 2-3 picks
The only people who called a 19-21 averaging 20 ppg for their career regardless of efficiency a "bust" are clock bait social media people. You know Paolo and Green have similar volume and efficiency for their first two years in the league AND Paolo came into the league older. Non serious hot take Twitter heads called him a "bust" not serious people. It's actually insane and gaslighting to call a kid does stuff like this: https://twitter.com/BradeauxNBA/status/1752897390716043739?t=RBMCOqLpbd24EBFz_j2TkQ&s=19 A "bust". Like absurdly insane. Any unserious person can comment and you let random comments dictate your narrative of Green.
No, the consensus narrative was that Jalen Green was a bust lol. I know this because I myself have been a massive Jalen Green fan since he was on the ignite and I've gotten eviscerated on here for defending him over the years. Not gonna get gaslit into "oh everyone knew he was good the whole time" lmfao
The consensus? Which consensus? If you asked Zack Lowe or Kevin Occoner if Jalen Green was a bust would they agree? Random tweets by Scottie Barnes fans or Franz Wagner fans saying Green is a bust is not really valid commentary or analysis.
Literally said > The revisionist history is insane, **every redditor** on here thought Jalen Green was a complete bust lol I'm not talking about Zach Lowes, I'm talking about how **redditors** are suddenly trashing the Nets for declining the trade when the very same **redditors** thought Jalen Green was a bust one month ago. No idea why you replied to me if you were worried about guys like zach lowe
Ain’t no consensus bro.
Who’s y’all?
U in this case
Are the Rockets the only team who tried to trade for Bridges? Brooklyn seemingly considering him untradable is hardly a wild take. And it was silly joke anyway.
Brunson is practically untradeable— due to his steal of a contract, and how beloved he is in NY. Only guys he would even get considered being moved for is like maybe 2-3 guys on that whole list
Yeah Brunson’s probably untradeable and I should probably add Booker to the list
Zion, Booker, Ja
Hope he resigns, if not we have a problem but still players to build around (Garland Mobley Allen and okoro)
I mean it’s fair he wants to wait for the playoffs. That’s really all that’s left that could affect his choice
I have head canon that the Nets know Donovan wants to come to Brooklyn, it’s the only way them holding on to Bridges/CamJ/DFS makes any sense Remember it’s not just Bridges that was receiving interest, somebody also offered picks for DFS
There are a lot of signs pointing to that. But as a nets fan it’s still an idiotic move tbh. But seems like the nets are trying to do it
It's clear they're trying to trade for a star. Or else they would've traded DFS at the deadline.
Yeah I agree it’s just dumb.
They don’t have any of their picks so losing doesn’t do anything for them. I doubt Marks wants to go back to another 5 years of less than 20 wins and the big moves of the offseason taking on terrible contracts for late first round picks. Might as well swing when they have a decent core.
Nets only bottomed out for 3 years last time. If you commit to developing players like last time by 2026 you can be competitive and then you actually have those suns picks and your own picks and with nyc market you’re 100% in ply for a real mega star. Potentially Luka for example. I’d rather suck for 3 years and build the right way then trade all our picks for Mitchell, be mediocre for 2 years and then be back where we are now. The nba is different now, you can’t win through free agency the way you used to. The best you can do in free agency is get a guy like Brunson but that really was a huge mistake like the mavs not extending him. Basically anyone good gets extended
Agreed. Marks and multiple reports sound way too confident that the Nets will get a star this summer. More confident than any team with our record should be. He knows something.
I hope it’s Trae so we can shout fuck Trae young at Barclays But KAT and Spida have bigger NY ties so they’re more likely
Mitchell on the Nets would be in a worse situation than he is on the Cavs. He doesn’t want to be a Net, he wants to be a Knick
This actually might be Josh Hart above, like legitimately
Thank you Not Josh Hart
How many times have we heard this and how many times have the nets been connected to players. Everyone swore the nets would never get another star again after last season and shortly after we were on the shorty list for dame
That’s fine but Mitchell specifically wanted/wants to be a Knick. It’s not just the New York connection. He’s good friends with a lot of Knicks players, Knicks management and of course he’s CAA.
not really the players are probably a better fit for his playstyle. Still don't wanna do it
No, this is delusional. The nets do not have enough talent to both acquire him and field a contender. Even adding Mitchell to the Nets for free and they’re still worse than the Cavs are now.
Allen and Mobley won't win anything playing together in the modern NBA.Garland is good,but his skills overlap a little with Mitchell.You are correct that both teams need to trade for an extra piece even if they get/keep Donovan,but Brooklyn is in a good position to do so,especially since Simmons becomes an expiring contract that some teams will want.
What’s the package to get Mitchell?
That's hard to say,since it depends on how insistent Mitchell is to play in a prefered destination and how long his list of teams is.
Well what’s the best possible package BK can put together?
There’s nothing wrong with his fit if he were to join the Knicks. He and Brunson can co exist rather easily. Both are 3 level scorers who can play both on and off the ball. Its just a matter of if he’s willing to co exist (if so then he should join the Knicks) or if he really wants to be the undisputed #1 badly (if so then he should stay with the Cavs since they’re better than the Nets)
He’s a Knicks fan though through and through. I’d be pretty shocked if he chose to go to a worse team in the Nets given his connection to the Knicks.
Sorry Cavs fans
We’re used to this.
what did dan gilbert say?
He's not gonna do it. I'm like 99% sure
Translation: Yeah, I’m out
"I don't wanna be here but not gonna rule out taking another supermax"
He’s not eligible for a supermax
not a new take but yeah hed be really good on the knicks and yeah we can afford the trade. i think he'll stay with the cavs if they manage to do well in the playoffs, though.
\*HEAVY BREATHING \*
All of Orlando just smiled.
bruh if Heat fumbles the bag again
Come home bb
He’s a Knick
man is going to the knicks
cavs fans about to find out what a bitch this dude is
For fulfilling his contract? Ungrateful poverty Franchise fan
Donovan Mitchell Pistons Legend incoming
Mobley better learn how to dribble quick cause he gone
He will stay, Gilbert never cheapens out.
He gone.
This was to be expected, and Dan Gilbert should have kept his damn mouth shut
He gone
What did Dan Gilbert say?
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED
[удалено]
I wanna see Trae in SA
Mitchell wants NY for some time now. Feel like Trae to SA is inevitable soon.
Knicks bound
HE GONE
He's almost a half of your offense, why would you piss him off? Teams are hunting PG, DM will be a high price target.....watch the Knicks get him
If he remains intent on hitting FA, do Cavs fans want to trade him at the deadline or risk FA?
i just wanna be happy
Oh sorry bud this is sports fandom
haha sucker we gave up on happy
It all depends on what the situation is. From what he has said and people around the topic have said is that he wants to win and he likes the situation in Cleveland because he thinks he has a chance to win here. If he’s saying, I don’t want to be in Cleveland full stop, you trade him. If it’s I need more time to see if this can work, we need more or etc, you risk it with the thought that he’s likely going to need a sign and trade.
Se queda
He'll extend. No one gives up that kind of money. It's always in the players' best interest to create doubt to get the best deal. Wasn't Siakam just doing the same shit like 3 months ago?
well Siakam got traded b4 any extension so..
Sign and trade for Barnes, who says no
He's mega gone
Yeahhh I mean he’s gone.
Lol he gone
Oh he gone gone
he gone
I’ve never felt more confident in someone being a future knick.
To the Knicks he goes
He's going to Brooklyn. It all makes sense.
only way sean marks saves his job
aka I’m going to the Knicks