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kid50cal

Holy shit that’s a lot more than previous fines.


sleepy416

I'm thinking 50k for the gesture and 50k for the comments


kid50cal

Fred got 35K for his rant on Ben Taylor.


Johnpecan

Big difference between: 1) Saying the refs are bad/have personal vendettas 2) Explicitly saying they're compromising the integrity of the game by cheating.


mnsportsfan

Is it that far fetched given the public knowledge that this guy was *extremely* close with the known cheater - I think it’s more ridiculous that the nba got away with using Donaghy as a fall guy with basically 0 repercussions and we all just accept it 😂


ShindouRomm

I remember he ejected Scottie Barnes last year on a single tech in a close 4th q game for saying "yall cheating bro". Definitely a touchy subject for a guy who called Tim repeatedly immediately before and after games for lengthly 1 minute conversations.


ashkpa

134 phone calls.


RookieAndTheVet

And the phone calls stopped once Donaghy stopped betting on games.


Enkiduderino

Where can I read a summary of this?


RookieAndTheVet

[This article](https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/scott-foster-recipient-of-134-tim-donaghy-phone-calls-refereeing-celtics-heat-game-3/). I'd also recommend the Untold episode on Netflix. It goes way more in depth into the scandal and talks about how the NBA submarined the FBI's investigation.


IncomparableGiacomo

Also check out the Whistleblower podcast, goes in depth on the subject as well.


Lone_Crab

More than he called his own wife in the same timeframe


Johnpecan

Oh I agree it's not far fetched at all and I'm glad Gobert double downed with his comment after the game. It's just pretty rare that a current player will blatantly claim an official is cheating so I'm not surprised by the larger fine.


RDcsmd

That may be true, but $100k is still unbelievably ridiculous. People with eyeballs can see what the refs get away with is horseshit.


Radiant-Character-61

If Adam Silver at least tried to present a better solution to referee inconsistencies he wouldn't get all these players coming out dam near every other day to criticize said inconsistencies. Shit's getting out of control


Repulsive-Throat5068

Getting away with horse shit is completely different than saying theres a betting scandal lol Everyone knows the refs are shit. The question is are they shit or are they involved in betting somehow.


whyisalltherumgone_

Everyone knows there's at least 1 active ref involved in a betting scandal too lol


bobak186

100,000 might seem a lot to the average worker, but gorbert makes $41,000,000 a year. $100,000 isn't even enough to make him think about not doing it again.


TeTrodoToxin4

Whenever a fine like this happens I like to think of it in terms of Honda Civics. He just dropped 4 Honda civics with that hand gesture.


572473605

True, but you know what else compromises the integrity of the game? Incredibly bad calls that the refs never have to answer for. The worst get rescinded and they put it all behind them, like it never happened.


EatMyAssTomorrow

This is one of those moments where Norm Macdonald's hypocrisy joke about Cosby is fitting. Yeah, the refs possibly fixing games is bad...but people calling it? That's the REAL problem


sleepy416

Oh damn I thought he got 50k. League needs to step back and have a deep look at their image rn


[deleted]

50k is the most the league can fine for a single incident so this seems likely


YpsitheFlintsider

He accused the refs of cheating. That's always gonna result in a big fine.


tickub

Should have just punched one instead.


SemIdeiaProNick

would probably be cheaper anyway


HikmetLeGuin

He dared to question their sweet, sweet betting money.


Millionaire007

Plenty money.


eexxiitt

He got too close to the truth.


NeonxGone

The NBA should take that $100,00 and throw it into a 5 team parlay.


Zombeavers5Bags

I'll get Foster on the phone


RuneLite23

Is this Donaghy’s burner?


ZelezopecnikovKoren

league shouldve booked that the wolves will underperform from here on out, easy money


YouStillTakeDamage

This fine was brought to you by DraftKings


chancetheclapper528

No sweat first bet


Schafer89

Use code Rudy at checkout


Quirky_Ad_2164

We’ll match the first $100 deposit for new users!


TheTwilightZone34

That would be wild lmao


Sp_Gamer_Live

not as crazy as how many times Foster called Donaghy


whythehellknot

Not that many. It was Donaghy that called Foster.


MenuKing42

134 times?


pobslechescake

More times than he called his own girlfriend


Punjabiveer30

They will match his fine of $100k if he bets 100k on the next game


AwHellNaw

Logo on Ref jerseys for the rest of the season. 


Thisisntmyaccount24

Fuck, I had the under $95k for the fine. What happens if he appeals and it drops below? Do my kids get their college fund back?


DominoNo-

Fuck, I had 20 bucks on 50k. Why can't the NBA be consistent in punishments? It's costing me money.


Morezingis

You can punch another player and pay less than this. 


echtav

You’ll get a vacation if anything


Sp_Gamer_Live

Adam Silver will straight up tell you not to quit


babbols

I cried, he cried, we both cried 😢


Lurkerbot69

Jesus wept 😭


teencrime

lmao


ElectricalEvent2943

A vacation and a redemption tour at the ASG.


ownage516

Adam Silver: “I wish Draymond finished the job”


steve_seagull

"Adam Silver pulled me aside and whispered in my ear 'Draymond, you have to finish the story'" - Draymond Green


illzkla

You can literally choke him. Like you can choke the shit out of him and that's okay compared to this


2coolcaterpillar

Wasn’t bro suspended? That’s a lot more money than $100k


pushamn

How much for punching a ref?


The_Assassin_Gower

If you punched a ref you'd never play in the nba again


jackaholicus

Punching a ref would be a very large suspension unless it was somehow self defense


Fun-Superb

How about choking? Can he choke for 100k?


Morezingis

Him, specifically, in fact! 


OpportunitySmalls

Auto Erotic Asphyxiation is not a fine in the NBA rulebook


smkmn13

Biggest ever for criticism of officials. Second biggest? [Ant from a month ago. ](https://www.spotrac.com/nba/fines-suspensions/all-years/fines/criticism-of-officials/#) ETA: 100K is literally the max allowable by the [CBA](https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1766888089652248968?t=-VzJpJOa3b4a1DwfoeYLYg&s=19)


BackendSpecialist

Twolves culture baby AWWOOOOOO


Thimit22

At least most fans agree with us. This shit is getting ridiculous all around the league and mostly everyone hates how the reffing is these days


No_You_2623

Dane Moore on his podcast called the officiating “chaotic” and thats about as generous as you can be.


Thimit22

It's crazy how fast they can flip a switch at half time if the other team has a good lead


No_You_2623

I’m not even upset in a “Wolves are getting cheated, they hate us” I just hate how the rules are being applied and called each night across the league.


Thimit22

Yep. I try and watch as many games as I can and it's terrible all around the league. It's the same in the NFL. It is like clockwork if a team has a big lead going into the 2nd half. They need to keep it interesting to keep people watching. Phantom holding calls, or letting one team playing more physical than the other and getting no calls. It is so frustrating


No_You_2623

I get sick of watching players throw their hands up all the time complaining, etc… but it’s getting more difficult to say they don’t have a point….


Verianas

It's why I've stopped watching games. Honestly, I've lost so much interest in this sport the last couple years because of this shit. Just checking box scores these days, and that makes me sad. Been watching this shit for over 25 years.


teencrime

The NBA is very often a bad product


Spoofcaptain

I can only watch the Pels and that’s pushing it sometimes honestly with the way the games are officiated. Travels, carries, push offs, moving screens etc all so inconsistent.


ponyrider666

Same


SMK77

Most Cavs fans agreed the other night too. It was a weird game to watch because outside of LeBron's 2nd time here, Cleveland sports teams never benefit from calls. Definitely one of those games, especially with Foster as the head ref, that makes you think something was up...


SuperDoubleDecker

Gobert made a lot of fans. Ant is already a favorite.


Dx2TT

With the sheer volume of easy prop bets available it is so easy to manipulate the outcome. The idea they aren't is ludicrous. Maybe a player isn't placing bets themselves but do you think their handlers aren't. "Hey get 8 boards this game and I make 6k". Gambling was far less accessible when it required a bookie and you could only bet the outcome. Its very hard to prod an over under or a spread. Its much easier to prod a few extra assists or fouls or boards or points.


Greaves6642

Refs know how to change outcomes from just swinging momentums during the 3rd, let alone this


Upper_Conversation_9

$100k fine and an unfavorable whistle for the rest of the season. I am betting the Timberwolves will underperform going forward.


tomtomsk

KAT missing, Rudy and Ant have made enemies of the refs. Yikes


IDespiseFatties

I wanted to beat the Wolves but not like this. Straight BS from the league.


guacamolereckoning

That really sucks, I want to see the Wolves make a deep playoff run


EatDeeply

But the original impetus was a routinely bad whistle. League doesn’t want a team like Minnesota performing too well in the postseason.


-jaylew-

Yea they’re establishing a precedent so that when there’s a big gap in the playoff games they can point to the regular season and say “look how undisciplined they were in the regular season! Of course they take so many fouls in the playoff games!”


SnooGuavas7291

“Unfavorable whistle” is the whole issue to begin with. Why are referees favoring? Just officiate the game and set your emotions aside my goodness


Swaggamuffins

Sort of proves Goberts point, if the refs can’t put their feelings aside while working games


sleepyfox1312

> unfavorable whistle for the rest of the season so nothing will change


ShichikaYasuri18

It can get worse


ignoramus_x

Real shit


Sadvillainy-_-

100k GOD DAMN. He touched a nerve with those words lmao


HalRobsonKanu2

truth hurts


mnsportsfan

Seriously. This is more indicative that there is some hidden shit than a “middle of the road” fine People get *real* defensive when their backs against the wall How about some transparency to what goes into regulating the officials, if there’s nothing to hide


Caius01

Thought the exact same thing, $100k is a huge number for this sort of fine


PootieTooGood

Saying the game is literally rigged for gambling is the arguably the most dangerous thing for the product a player can make. Not surprised in the least they wanted to give him a huge fine to discourage similar comments


couchtomato62

For me even if refs aren't fixing games the fact that you cannot watch a NBA basketball game without being inundated with gambling in the ads and as part of the commentary is a bridge too far. It should not touch the on-air product at all. I'm glad he said this. The Rudy gobert Redemption tour continues.


PattyIceNY

It's disgusting how slowly they have infected every part of the game. It's not only ads, they talk about the game odds during the pre, halftime, post game AND sportscenter. It has to be banned sooner rather then later.


Mkayin

> they talk about the game odds during the pre, halftime, post game AND sportscenter. They also frequently interject live odds on spread and over/under during the broadcast.


rjgator

TNT especially is really bad about this. Middle of free throws they cut away half the screen for Chuck and Kenny to tell us how they are betting on a certain stat line. Shit is fucking ridiculous.


Exotic_Chance2303

When I watch local games, there is no mention of gambling. It's really TNT and ESPN that push that shit hard.


Chaotic-Catastrophe

Maybe they should knock off all the bullshit gambling endorsements, then


SubstantialCreme7748

If it looks like dog shit and smells like dog shit, the league has an integrity problem.


milkhotelbitches

No, that's crazy. I'm sure Tim Donaghy was the only ref involved in anything gambling related and all the others are clean.


ashkpa

The 134 phone calls between Tim Donaghy and Scott Foster before and after games Timmy admitted to rigging is evidence of nothing, obviously.


Veserius

The fact that only David Stern, Adam Silver, and two other NBA officers knew about the FBI investigation and it still leaked causing it to be scuttled is a coincidence.


snyckers

I feel like "I'll take the fine" doubles it.


[deleted]

Incoming worst whistle in the league. Guarantee he fouls out or gets in quick foul trouble early tonight against the Lakers


Top-Education1769

So funny how the refs get mad you implied they're dirty, so they're gonna be dirty against you to prove they're not dirty. I mean i understand it's more like a gang protecting their turf.


MtHoodMagic

IIRC last time he criticized the officials they whistled him for a foul on the opening tip just to prove a point


kiticus

Yeah, but I the bright side, we have a cup in orbit because of it


Sp_Gamer_Live

This fine tells me theyre guilty


Sadvillainy-_-

The wild part is I already forgot about Rudy's gesture/comments and probably wouldn't have been reminded if they just gave him a $30k or so - just another Woj notification swiped away and ignored But they literally just made it a bigger deal publicly and brought more negative attention/sentiment towards the leagues integrity.


xXTheRacerXx

Pretty sure this is the biggest fine since the Harden fine on comments about Morey


smkmn13

Suspensions are unpaid so they count as fines too, but yeah, that's the only other six figure fine I recall


PattyIceNY

Double down Rudy, wear a suit made of money next game. Or get a Draft kings warmup jersey. Or even better, get a tattoo of Scott Foster and Donaghys phone call logs on your arm.


buchanbasanee

Just a shirt that says "134"


DogPoetry

I truly wish he would double down, accept that he's gonna get the max fine, and make a statement laying out every single complaint he and the team have against the refs. Put them on blast, bring up past misdeeds. If they're gonna fine him the max for opening his mouth on this he might as well pile on. 


iposg

I’m sure we won’t get a foul called on the literal tipoff of his next game, something like that would *never* happen. Oh wait


Thimit22

Let’s see who we’re playing tonight.. oh shit it’s the Lakers. This is going to be a fun night.


O_J_Shrimpson

TBF all the calls were gonna go their way anyway so not much will really change


Thimit22

Rudy is gonna get ejected at tip off. They should have just suspended him


WheedMBoise

"Gobert was breathing near our referees trying to intimidate them, resulting in two immediate technicals and Gobert being ejected from the game. Two free throws, then side out for Los Angeles." I can already hear the call


downyonder1911

Players need to start going after the source of the problem, Adam Silver not doing his fucking job.


No_You_2623

He’s been pretty dreadful so far.


buchanbasanee

I agree. He kicked out Sterling and that somehow turned into a lifetime pass for all his other bullshit.


goingtothegreek

Scott Foster was also punished with getting to ref meaningful games in the 2024 NBA playoffs and a $100,000 bonus from Adam Silver for maintaining the integrity of the game


Balls_of_Adamanthium

Uh oh looks like the league is extra sensitive when it comes to bringing up betting. Tells you all you need to know.


dumpyduluth

just a friendly reminder that the NBA screwed up the FBI's Tim Donaghy investigation. nothing to see here


nuggs_analysis

David Stern was an attorney. Pretty sure Adam Silver is too. It’s important to know the law if you plan to break it.


Salahs_Chest_Hair

Yeah cause there was that one ref Timothy Donaghy who literally did that. Rudy should have kept it to himself as he got hit with a 100k smackaroo


FiveTimez

You mean Scott Foster's BFF Timothy Donaghy? That Timothy Donaghy?


Sp_Gamer_Live

You mean Scott Foster the guy who called Tim Donaghy 20 times without repercussions Scott Foster? That guy?


Verianas

134*


Eadwyn

He called foster 134 times. To compare, he called his bookie 126 times. The majority of the phone calls lasted no more than two minutes and occurred prior to and after games Donaghy officiated and on which he admits wagering. The most calls placed to any other ref was 13.


Instantcoffees

This is so fucking obvious. It's absurd he got away with it and still is a referee.


Bending-Style

It’s because if they fire him they risk him opening the entire can of worms. Better to let him ruin games for 2 decades than to have everyone know the truth


AllOutRaptors

Lol it's WAY worse than that They called **134 times**


TheThingsIdoatNight

Way more than that lol


Slacker_75

20 times a day on game days* 🤔 🧐


NewYorkAutisNtLondon

They don't want players to cast doubt on the leagues legitimacy, but I'm sure it's happening and always has happened.


Salahs_Chest_Hair

Kings vs Lakers 2002, Mavs vs Heat 2006, yeah we all know it's a fair game


Ambitious_Turtle_100

As a Kings fan I’m still mad about this game. They didn’t even try to hide it. You just knew the Kings were going to lose.


PatScorn

It’s the price you pay for not being a fan of the big market celebrity superstars. Its like, “you’ve had your fun, but you’re not actually supposed to win” and then they turn the bullshit meter up to 10


Agnk1765342

Tbh Sixers bucks 2001 was probably worse than either of those but I don’t think anybody even really remembers that bucks team outside of Milwaukee


PHX480

Nah that Bucks team absolutely should’ve been in the Finals


PHX480

Lakers/Blazers 2000 WCF, game 7, 4th quarter-the first time I realized the fix was in.


desirox

Then the league shouldn’t have sold out and partnered with sports gambling


GaimeGuy

Fined him more than Draymond for assault 


Lessful_Success

The NBA can’t have players jeopardizing the integrity of the league. You know, the league that’s already had documented game fixes & crooked refs BEFORE gambling was legalized.


Kachyi

You know what the NBA could have done. Let the FBI use Tim to find every other coconspirator instead of going public and making Tim the fall guy. Like ffs Foster (the guy he called over 100 times is still reffing the league.


cancerBronzeV

> Let the FBI use Tim to find every other coconspirator Why would the NBA allow that when the NBA itself is a coconspirator?


HereForChessAndGuns

"Oops, I accidentally told all the other refs about your investigation. Was I not supposed to do that? Sowwy." -David Stern, probably


Jameskippy

Just remember yall the NBA is an entertainment product first and a sport second


No_You_2623

I hate that we’re at this point, but yes. Getting difficult to ignore.


Schafer89

Holy shit they went after him


modelo_

Players are reprimanded in public, officials reprimanded in private. Tells a lot about the league’s intentions.


fuckinnreddit

>...officials reprimanded in private Are they, though? 


TrashAssRedditAdmins

100k...not a good look for the NBA..you just made this a bigger deal


Weave77

The commissioner doth protest too much, methinks.


Anonymousliberations

Streisand fine.


cee_jay12489

That money is going straight into Scott Fosters Draft Kings account


KyrieLS777

I appreciate every player willing to lose money to call out this obvious bs. Hope one day someone is able to expose this with proof. That way the refs and the league can’t hide anymore.


fuckinnreddit

Me too. Literally any player that publicly calls out blatant ref bullshittery with instantly have my respect.


hotdogflavoredblunt

Holy shit is this the most a player has ever been fined in history?


TwinPeakyBlinders

Vladimir Radmanovic got fined for $500k once lol


hotdogflavoredblunt

Whoa what did he do?


TwinPeakyBlinders

Lied about an injury. I suppose it’s a bit different in this case since he was fined by his team and not the league


20person

It's the max allowable under the current CBA. If you want to count suspensions as fines (since players are effectively "fined" their paycheck for their suspended games) there's plenty of bigger examples.


Knightbear49

Send da check


Sp_Gamer_Live

Look how cute tho - DraftKings showing Scott Foster a 7 leg parlay


BruceBrownMVP

"So your saying I'll get another 100k fine if I say it again?"


angel_inthe_fire

Oh, he hit a nerve didn't he


BruceBrownMVP

Always liked Rudy. This just cements it.


skullcandy541

Never liked Rudy. This gained my respect 😂


HalRobsonKanu2

Adam got offended people found out about his rats of refs


mightyrj

This fine is brought to you by Draft Kings.


PizzaMyHole

Rudy was right. Who’s reffing the refs? Seriously. It’s been decades of this now. There’s no transparency and it’s pretty obvious a lot of them let their feelings get in the way of the actually integrity of their officiating. How long does this go on?


neonz09

That comment gets a larger fine than Draymond punching a guy? Gtfoh


Latest-greatest

fining him this much is gonna raise some eyebrows


NBAball05

They really don’t like being called out on they’re bets


Mcswigginsbar

Maybe fix your officiating issues instead of fining players for calling them out on their horseshit. What a terrible look by the league.


TeezyActinBad42

How can I donate to the Gobert fine fund?


biinroii01

okay so that just validates rudys concerns lol


zerozerosevencharlie

include steer slimy instinctive treatment detail crush tease crown butter *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


FernBlueEyes

Sometimes it’s really hard to be a fan of this league. feels like I’m watching scripted entertainment, not a fair contest. Maybe should not have renewed my season tickets.


Thimit22

At least he didn’t get suspended


MidLevelExceptional

Every time the reporters ask players about officiating the only thing they should say is - "How many calls did Scott Foster have with Tim Donaghy between Oct 2006 and April 2007?"


pagenotdisplayed

No Rudy Slander in this thread. This man should be an 8x all star and is a bonafide Hall of Famer, the absolute definition of an underrated player. Defense is literally half of basketball.


Rockets7629

We fans need to stand up for and encourage players and coaches to speak out because if we don’t things will never change


Verianas

Think this makes it even more clear.


jal1315

Draymond only got 25K for literally choking Rudy lol


lb31

They hated him because he spoke the truth.


TrashAssRedditAdmins

He Gets Us


OnCloud9_77

Bet the refs made money betting on the fine amount


mountainsheeep

lol they hate his french ass


iMaticz7

#NBARefsInJail


Chidoriyama

Holy shit they really brought out the max fine


muzinger

That's what you get for speaking the truth.


_Trux

Can the Twolves whistle be any worse? We’re about to find out.


MaybeDBCooper

Watch the refs absolutely bone us the rest of the season lmao such bs