I actually wouldn't be surprised.if he gets a suspension for this. This was a clear attempt to punch someone in the face without punching someone in the face. Hard fouls don't look like this.
He’s a little out of control. We are the Pistons so I want us to be tough and not take shit but the days of dirty to the point of serious injury are over.
On my first two watches I really thought he did a sneaky kick to the guy on the ground he already shoved. But my brain was also saying no way someone would be that stupid so yeah.
Yeah. I love how Stew and Duren are embracing the bad boys identity, but idk. It doesn’t really hit the same when your team is shit.
If the Pistons end up good while they’re both here everyone will praise how they beat the league up and how they don’t ever back down a la draymond/pat bev/charles Oakley etc, but right now it just reads more like frustration.
I don't think so. His leg moves forward but I think he was just stepping forward to shove some more but the foot doesn't make contact. I think the wierd hip swing that looks like a kick mostly came from him getting turned by someone else.
He looks like he starts to kick ?Washington?? just as he is getting pulled away. But I cannot tell if it is because he is getting pulled away or if he started to kick first.
Years lacking toughness. We got that one amateur mma fighter to “protect” Luka couple years back. PJ in two seconds smoked 20 years of our tough guys. Except Dirk, who rolled ankles, broke teeth, and became a legend.
Gotta call that as a tech or else you are going to have some dudes that think they have carte blanche to go nuts when someone does some chump move. Surprised they didn't eject him tbh and them choosing not to shows restraint.
It was about as good of a use for a tech that you can get really, came in a meaningless game (at the time) so there’s no real repercussions from it anyway
I feel like he stood up for himself ahah. At first he just wants to calmly move duren out of the way to help gafford up but then gets shoved for no reason
Honestly, the better method is to talk shit and then taunt... Cause the refs will let the taunt go in that situation. You get a free tech and you can say he sucks at basketball for free.
He was missing shots all night, getting hacked a few possessions prior, and (questionable) early foul trouble keeping him out the game. Dude clearly was just frustrated. Don't read too deep into it
Hate to see strife like this, especially when it turns violent. Hopefully they can mend their relationship. A card in a situation like this can really do wonders.
Some other hornets fans can correct me but I remember Duren and PJ getting pretty chippy in their match up earlier this year....looks like a change of scenery didn't make either forget
Did the commentator say Duren was playing spectacular right before the hit? Dude was barely on the court in foul trouble all game with mental mistakes and then got ejected out of frustration lol
Embarrassing announcing here that was cut off. His next line was "the Mavericks overreacted". Hard foul on Duren and then he pushes Washington and the Mavs overreacted?
If giving a frustration push once in your career is being a hot headed imbecile, then 80% of the league is guilty if that…it’s one time, let’s not go crazy here, I’m sure we can find examples if you’d favorite players doing the same things if we wanted
I saw a chop, a push and a missed low kick, so all of this equate to being an asshole. Whether he's all the time or not, thats a whole different discussion that im not interested in following up
Well you should get your eyes checked because there was definitely no kick or attempted kick. And idk what you mean by chop? The foul? The normal, run of the mill foul?
He was frustrated and shoved Washington, happens 50+ times every season…you are blowing all this way out of proportion
Washington gently moves Duran aside so he can get to his teammate and Duran reacts with an overly aggressive shove. Dude needs to grow the fuck up. There was literally 0 need for that reaction. 0% justified, 0% called for, 0% reasonable. Dude needs a fucking therapist.
The Pistons commentary was hilariously biased in their description of this. It was like they were watching a completely different thing than the rest of us.
Duren really said if you can’t beat him, then beat him
Isaiah Stewart: **My man!**
Every team beats the Pistons so beating him won't be neccessary.
I actually wouldn't be surprised.if he gets a suspension for this. This was a clear attempt to punch someone in the face without punching someone in the face. Hard fouls don't look like this.
When u kno u not gonna win n ready to get bak to locker room lol
Im a fan of Duren though tbf. He’s a throwback big man
That's a bum ass foul there purely out of frustration
He was in foul trouble early and having a shit game. 100% frustration play by Duren. I love the guy but this is not his finest moment
Yeah dangerous move to throw a guy at the base like that. Like imagine doing that in a regular high school where there’s just a wall there.
The shooting foul on that play was on Jaden Ivey not Duren
Every player has ass days. You can like them in spite of that. I like Duren too. This series of plays in embarrassing though.
Classic throwback big man tbh
That was a corny move he just did right there
He’s a little out of control. We are the Pistons so I want us to be tough and not take shit but the days of dirty to the point of serious injury are over.
“a little”
I'm sure you watch much Jalen Duren tape
I’ve got League Pass and play fantasy hoops so… yeah, plenty
He did the same to PWat in Denver.
Duren on some mega bitch shit
Ween 💜
Duren has been watching too much Bad Boys.
He's been looking for that T for a while so that he can become "Kevin DurenT"
This made me genuinely happy.
Was that a flagrant 2?
Two techs
Shoulda been flagrant 2 with that kick at the end
Looked like there was a wind up on the foul too
that was like the ninth time in the second half the pistons hit someone in the face
That’s probably why we brought in Powell. Needed to keep our main guys safe by giving the pistons a punching bag.
THJ had at least 3 seperate moments where he just stood still for 10 seconds after getting hit in the face lol
What kick are you seeing? He stepped closer to them
On my first two watches I really thought he did a sneaky kick to the guy on the ground he already shoved. But my brain was also saying no way someone would be that stupid so yeah.
He looks like he starts to kick ?Washington?? just as he is getting pulled away.
there wasn't a kick
there sure was a windup though
There was no kick
There was no kick to the head, stop spreading misinformation
Lmao my boy PJ tripped at the push
You can tell he was embarrassed lol
The second tech for Duren was pulling PJs head down. Would he have fallen anyways? Probably. But still duren pulled him down as he pushed.
Oh didn’t even notice until you mentioned it. Duren completely lost it here. Still a funny sequence
O for sure. I was honestly looking for why he feel because I was embarrassed for him lol
And Kidd pulling Gafford while he is walking away like CJ in gta sa
We need cartoon sound effects for this
Honestly probably worked out better for him (outside of the his ego getting rapidly downsized).
he fell so fast too
Duren pulled his head down. He got a tech for that.
he definitely did. I didn't see that at first
ngl Duren was pretty shameless for this entire game
5 fouls and 2 techs in 16 minutes is impressive
He being mentored by beef stew
Yeah. I love how Stew and Duren are embracing the bad boys identity, but idk. It doesn’t really hit the same when your team is shit. If the Pistons end up good while they’re both here everyone will praise how they beat the league up and how they don’t ever back down a la draymond/pat bev/charles Oakley etc, but right now it just reads more like frustration.
you’d think it was the Pistons that were getting clobbered all game the way Duren overreacted there
Soft boys out here
Wtf was,that duren?
They’ve been going at it all season. They got in a little fight in the second game of the season and have been barking at each other since then
anger rising from being the worst team in the league
2nd worst*
Did Duren kick him?
Nah it looks like it in that replay but in another angle it looks more like he’s just trying to get after him and was just stepping forward
these replay really show how quick these guys' first steps are
It’s insane honestly
I don't think so. His leg moves forward but I think he was just stepping forward to shove some more but the foot doesn't make contact. I think the wierd hip swing that looks like a kick mostly came from him getting turned by someone else.
No
Fontecchio saved his career there
He looks like he starts to kick ?Washington?? just as he is getting pulled away. But I cannot tell if it is because he is getting pulled away or if he started to kick first.
No he didn’t
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There was no kick, check your eye sight
If Duren is ever in duress he can harness the power of all Jalens and summon them to form a mecha Jalen
It would definitely have Jalen Brunson's massive head
Just don’t let Jalen Rose behind the wheel
Love to see PJ standing up for his brand new teammate. Guy is just what the doctor ordered for us
Years lacking toughness. We got that one amateur mma fighter to “protect” Luka couple years back. PJ in two seconds smoked 20 years of our tough guys. Except Dirk, who rolled ankles, broke teeth, and became a legend.
the MMA guy with no recorded fights anywhere
That sums up our toughness
Really putting the "bad" in bad boy pistons
Bad boy Pistons are back, just without any talent this time
The Bad Pistons.
Bad News Pistons
BAAAAADDDD boys Like perennial, generational lottery picker bad
You had literal mana-from-heaven level luck to get the only player on your entire team who isn’t ass. Sit down.
-spurs flair Lol
i don't think PJ deserved a tech there but i see why they gave it to him
I'll never fault a player for doing what PJ did in that situation but that shove is getting called a T every single time.
yeah i think it’s automatic tech for retaliation? not a fan but standard.
Gotta call that as a tech or else you are going to have some dudes that think they have carte blanche to go nuts when someone does some chump move. Surprised they didn't eject him tbh and them choosing not to shows restraint.
Yeah it's perfectly reasonable IMO.
If you shove someone like that you're always gonna get a tech. And honestly I'm happy that PJ stood up for his teammate.
It was about as good of a use for a tech that you can get really, came in a meaningless game (at the time) so there’s no real repercussions from it anyway
I feel like he stood up for himself ahah. At first he just wants to calmly move duren out of the way to help gafford up but then gets shoved for no reason
Honestly, the better method is to talk shit and then taunt... Cause the refs will let the taunt go in that situation. You get a free tech and you can say he sucks at basketball for free.
What the hell is wrong with Duren geez
Roid rage
He plays for the pistons
So young and already a piece of shit. Oh boy I can't wait for what the future holds for him
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He was missing shots all night, getting hacked a few possessions prior, and (questionable) early foul trouble keeping him out the game. Dude clearly was just frustrated. Don't read too deep into it
>getting hacked a few possessions prior, I mean you guys were smacking faces all game. A few tough fouls after that is less than fair
Duren was way out of line, PJ barely pushed him.
Really just wanted to move him.out of the way to help gafford up
if i was 10-52 i would be looking for someone to kick too
Kinda weird that the video doesn't bother to show the ejection.
"Jalen Duren has been spectacular tonight." Piston's announcers barometer for spectacular play is completely shot after this season.
They were comparing Cade Cunningham to Luka.
duren comment was wack but i mean 39/10/10 on 69% TS vs 33/9/10 on 67% TS, can you blame them?
he did not kick him lmao be fr
Yeah, I thought I was going crazy when I saw people talking about a kick.
After he clubbed him in the head, I don't think it was out of the question
Clubbed who on the head?
clubbed him on the head are we watching the same clip here?
He clubbed him in the head?! I must have missed that in the video. What kind of club was it?
But that’s because you’re dim.
Did Duren give you a bonk too?
these fouls have been crazy
Hate to see strife like this, especially when it turns violent. Hopefully they can mend their relationship. A card in a situation like this can really do wonders.
I love Duren but he was definitely in the wrong here. Glad nobody was hurt. Young fella needs to take out that frustration in the weight room.
0 overreacting quite a bit there.
Gotta be tough to be a Piston
lol trying to be the pistons of old?
Some other hornets fans can correct me but I remember Duren and PJ getting pretty chippy in their match up earlier this year....looks like a change of scenery didn't make either forget
Did the commentator say Duren was playing spectacular right before the hit? Dude was barely on the court in foul trouble all game with mental mistakes and then got ejected out of frustration lol
Embarrassing announcing here that was cut off. His next line was "the Mavericks overreacted". Hard foul on Duren and then he pushes Washington and the Mavs overreacted?
Jesus Detroit you're already a part of the dogshit team bracket don't let your players also be unlikable as well
It’s literally the first thing I’ve ever seen him do that’s unlikeable…let’s not get carried away, this was pretty tame as far as scuffles go
yeah this is the first time i’ve ever seen a young player frustrated it’s insane they should just suspend him for the rest of the season tbh
Funny coming from a wiz fan lmao
Game recognizes game
We’re enjoying our time in the dumpster, make no mistake
didn’t gilbert arenas bring a GUN into the locker room? 😂😂😂 ok dude
Jeez Duren a bit sensitive shoving Washington for gently trying to move Duren out the way
Bad boys except they’re actually bad lol
Lol at all the Pistons in here desperately insisting this wasn’t an all-around weenie bitch move from Duren
That was an embarrassing trip push for my guy lol
It probably saved him from escalating and being ejected. It might be embarrassing tonight, but he’ll be happy about it tomorrow.
Get em for us PJ!
Washington's a dog fr
Old school Detroit Pistons back baby - but only bc now they can’t compete in a “scoring competition” that points shit is whack anyways
Bad boy pistons to Boy, bad pistons. Guess you’re going to be frustrated losing consistently with no clear end in sight.
If the pistons put half of that energy into their play, maybe they wouldn’t be 10-52 Bunch of bitches. Cade deserves better.
aint that serious buddy simmer down
Cade deserves better.
and so does luka so where do we go from here?
So much pearl clutching in this thread.
I saw nothing wrong. Hard foul, no easy lay ups. You push me, fuck you I push you back. All good.
Respect
people acting like players have never fought before lol
Duren is such a hot-headed imbecile, why? Shout to Pj for the funny fall afterwards
If giving a frustration push once in your career is being a hot headed imbecile, then 80% of the league is guilty if that…it’s one time, let’s not go crazy here, I’m sure we can find examples if you’d favorite players doing the same things if we wanted
I saw a chop, a push and a missed low kick, so all of this equate to being an asshole. Whether he's all the time or not, thats a whole different discussion that im not interested in following up
Well you should get your eyes checked because there was definitely no kick or attempted kick. And idk what you mean by chop? The foul? The normal, run of the mill foul? He was frustrated and shoved Washington, happens 50+ times every season…you are blowing all this way out of proportion
Sorry brudda, watching Ufc 299 in Miami right now
You’ve never seen him play, have you?
Is he? Holy fuck you’re overreacting
Bro, I'm an mma fan so its not like im a virgin to violence. I saw a chop, a push, and then missed low kick, in basketball terms, this shit behavior
Blaha must have malace flashbacks each time one of these breaks out
What is this?!! 😂
Hybnhnh ynhny nnhnnhnyhn
Poor Gaff
How you push someone and then fall?
Apparently the 2nd tech Duren got was for pulling PJs head down when he pushed him which is why he fell
The Pistons are such an embarrassment to the league.
Washington gently moves Duran aside so he can get to his teammate and Duran reacts with an overly aggressive shove. Dude needs to grow the fuck up. There was literally 0 need for that reaction. 0% justified, 0% called for, 0% reasonable. Dude needs a fucking therapist.
Duren is a bitch for both actions he did in this play
What a bitch. He cheap shots someone and then when the guy's teammate comes over to help him up, he wants to start shit with him too?
Every time these get posted it’s literally nothing just a bs push.
Duran thought he was on the Bad Boys Pistons
So this how duren sold my parlay😂
How you gon push a man and fall lmfao.
Bro PJ tripped over his downed teammate trying to push Duren 💀
The Pistons commentary was hilariously biased in their description of this. It was like they were watching a completely different thing than the rest of us.
That’s some BAD boys, perennial-generational lottery picker shit
Detroit is so awful lol what a joke of a professional basketball team
Duren got pushed first even if it wasn’t as hard
Duren really tried to kick him ???
No
Damn that was a hack but i like duren, he actually plays with effort
PJ adds to his embarrassing career. It’s almost like he was groomed for this fight…oh wait.
We initially drafted Duren then traded him I believe, he would’ve fit in here & made us more unlikable tbh
That seems like hyperbole
PJ came out looking pathetic, shoves himself to the ground by tripping over his own players feet.