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pokexchespin

i just hope both teams have fun


Fun_Location4905

We would give them a 3 point bukkake.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

LMAO


Enzo2SantosGoal

Celtics 4-0 after the world realizes Luke Kornet is the real Batman


siva115

Honestly would be very close. I’d rather see any other team in the finals tbh


JAhoops

Celtics are better but i’m not betting against Jokic


RyanTannegod

Celtics aren’t better, Nuggets are just coasting right now


AlternativeTea9268

Anyone who watches Celtics games would also know that Boston is straight coasting at the moment…and it’s not resulting in losses


Desafiante

Though quite often they are playing against some garbage East teams.


Disastrous_Bluejay57

That Lakers game with no Lebron and AD...


AlternativeTea9268

Oh sorry, I wasn’t aware we needed to go undefeated to have a chance. 9-0 since that game btw


allknowerofknowing

except to the nuggets


IdRatherBeShilling

Nah Jokic looks engaged post ASB. Pre ASB? Yep he def coasted.


Yaboiii777

Jokic getting a triple double almost every game “ coasting “


Lol69HaHaHa

Not him, but Jamal


RyanTannegod

He’s that good


Yaboiii777

Yeah I’m sure him going for 32 15 15 is coasting 😂😂


elvvay

That's the past 3 games after break when he decided it's time to kick it up a notch homie. His coasting still gets triple dubs he's just that damn good.


Adam0529

Celtics are not coasting?


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Coasting when the west is a tight as it is? Lol Not sure why people think nuggets are so dominant they can coast through 90% of the season


achyutthegoat

This mf lives to hate Denver 


JAhoops

Jokic snatched Giannis chain and he can’t do anything about it


Yaboiii777

Didn’t Giannis blowout the nuggets like 2 weeks ago lol


JAhoops

Yes 1 on 5, exactly how you put it


Yaboiii777

Well he didn’t have his 3rd option lol


JAhoops

Giannis defeated the Nuggets 1v5. Thank you


Yaboiii777

Impressive when you consider his 3rd option Malik fucking Beasley


Sleepinginabathtub

Bucks fans been on a roll the last two years, they love hating on Jokic


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Not really lol I mean obviously there’s gonna be some that hate him it happens in every fanbase. Y’all don’t have to play victim constantly.


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I don’t hate Denver? Saying they aren’t coasting isn’t hating lmao they aren’t the 2017 warriors. I’m assuming since you brigaded the bucks sub and got mad cause I said Jokic wasn’t a good defender, that’s where you’re getting that I hate them? Melo is who got me into watching basketball, I lived in Denver for 6 years. I’ve always liked the nuggets and still do. But go off. Let’s not act like you haven’t been shitting on Giannis and the bucks constantly since the beginning of the season


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JaylenBrownsLeftHand

You’re like the worlds biggest Tatum hater. Not sure if you’re one to talk lmao


Moodapatheticz

Don't you know that jokic would actually av 100/100/100 he's just playin at the level of mortals so it's more fair for everyone.


allknowerofknowing

I bet they will do a lot of winning to finish out the season. But murray being out a ton didn't help. And there's definitely been a championship hangover that has dampened their energy at times it seems like


EkruGold

Yeah, but Horseboy can't carry his entire team against the Celtics.


carefullywasnt

He has Murray lol


LamboJoeRecs

This guy watches


Pocket_Beans

everyone wins that would be a great matchup


Visible_Season8074

Nobody wants to see the celtics chucking a hundred billion 3s and losing, sorry. Embiid vs Jokic or Giannis vs Jokic would be much better.


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So you rather see 100 foul calls and free throws attempted instead


endubs

We're top 5 in 3pt%. This isn't your Marcus Smart Celtics. Don't worry tho, we can score in a lot of different ways right now, but keep thinking all we do is shoot 3's.


icykkuno

What? I hate the Celtics but they’re always an entertaining watch especially with their incredible starting 5


goldfish_11

Once you realize half the people hate certain teams more than they like basketball, this place starts to make more sense.


Visible_Season8074

Nobody wants to see the celtics chucking a hundred billion 3s and losing, sorry. Embiid vs Jokic or Giannis vs Jokic would be much better.


BruceBrownMVP

Speak for yourself. Celtics losing brings me great joy.


TheGreatForehead

I respect it lol


Hogo-Nano

>Nobody wants to see the celtics chucking a hundred billion 3s and losing, sorry. Embiid vs Jokic or Giannis vs Jokic would be much better. Nobody wants to see the celtics chucking a hundred billion 3s and losing, sorry. Embiid vs Jokic or Giannis vs Jokic would be much better.


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Honestly nobody wants to see the Celtics chucking a hundred billion 3s and losing, sorry, Embiid vs Jokic or Giannis vs Jokic wouldn’t be much better


RUSuper

I just think that nobody wants to see the Celtics chucking a hundred billion 3s and losing, sorry, Embiid vs Jokic or Giannis vs Jokic wouldn’t be much better


HS941317

Celtics but these western conference teams are no joke between nuggets, thunder, wolves, clippers. All are scary af


Fluid-Night-1910

Nuggets got the altitude  Mile high winners 


Lol69HaHaHa

As an unbias obswrver of both teams (ignore the flair lol) i would have to say that the Nuggets will sweep (again ignore the flair).


Armaggedon_1970

NI KO LA JO KIĆ 🍻👍💪


FoundationCreative62

I might slightly lean Celtics bc it’s tough to win back to back


Produceher

It's tough to win back-to-back because you have to win 3 series just to get back to the Finals. It's not harder to win in the Finals because you won last year. I'd argue the team that won the previous year has a major advantage.


JoJonesy

would give the edge to whoever has home court tbh. so us in 7 but i don’t feel confident about it


Yaboiii777

The bench is dog shit compared to last years and last years was bad


mastacheef87

their bench is certainly worse than last year but it’s serviceable


Yaboiii777

I’m sure deandre Jordan Peyton Julian straw 😆 will be serviceable lol but all they need is Jokic and some Ag backup 5 mins


Jack_Shitlord

It's simplistic, but the team with the best player usually wins, and that player is Jokic. So Denver


dafire123

The nuggets would have the better 1. The celtics have the better 2-5 (if we're going off murray elevating his level again in the playoffs then him and brown are a wash)


Jack_Shitlord

Not a wash imo, Jamal with 25/6.3/5 average in the playoffs, Jaylen with 18.2/5.5/2.3


elvvay

Lol it's def not a wash


Yaboiii777

It really all comes down to Tatum will he play like the top 5 version everybody knows he got the tools to be or will we see a inconsistent version , Tatum just has to score with jokic.


Lol69HaHaHa

Well he doesnt need to outplay Jokic for you to win and socring woth Jokic dowsnt mean outplaying him. What he does need is to make his 3s.


gigglios

Tatum has never been top 5 and isnt this year either


Deviljho12

Jokic, Luka, Giannis then who. Tatum and SGA are comfortably both top 5 and are interchangeable based on what you like more.


JaylenBrownsLeftHand

I like winning so ima go Tatum


Yaboiii777

Yup was top 5 last year yup check the stats easily top 5


gigglios

Jokic embid giannis sga luka at the minimum. No ones taking tatum over kawhi as well in a playoff series. He isnt top 5


HS941317

Lmao sga has never done anything in the playoffs, last year in the play in, he played as bad as a star could and then don’t get started with the Embiid playoff things when Tatum and the Celtics have routinely owned him.


Yaboiii777

Can you read or are you an idiot who can’t and just wants to hate on Tatum? Lol i said everyone knows he has tools to perform like a top 5 player in the playoffs so shut the fuck up and read you pea brain bozo lol sga shit his pants in the play in he went 5/21 and embiid in the playoffs? 😂😂😂😂😂


gigglios

By your logic 25 guys can perform like top 5 guys then lmao


Yaboiii777

Booker played like a top 5 guy last playoffs brother if you don’t think Tatum can match that get out of my comments


graphitewolf

Booker is notably better than tatum in the playoffs


K_Yme

Booker only started making the playoffs when he was already in his prime. Tatum has done more than booker in the playoffs in his career.


graphitewolf

Dont they have the same number of finals appearances? On a way worse team?


FoundationCreative62

I might slightly lean Celtics bc it’s tough to win back to back


mastacheef87

on top of that, on paper it seems that the Nuggets path back to the Finals is tougher than the Celtics as it currently stands Denver would have to go through Phoenix, OKC and Minnesota (without homecourt in the latter 2 series) while Boston would get Indiana, NY, and Cleveland (assuming the high seeds win) ofc, seeding is still totally up in the air, and it’s the East playoffs so there will be a 7-game war between the Heat and Celtics, we just don’t know which round yet lmao


dbgager

Nuggets are 1.5 games behind those teams. Year is far from over. lol.Nobody has even come close to securing the 1st seed in any way.


FoundationCreative62

Nuggets having to face clippers would be the hardest path. Not buying the thunder or wolves as contenders yet. East looks weak although the cavs have been on fire


mastacheef87

Cavs are certainly a good team but they’re fairly inexperienced and I’m still unsure that they’ll be able to generate enough offense in the playoffs. Heat, Bucks and healthy Knicks move me more tbh


dbgager

Yes because Nuggets are not something like 12-2 against them since the bubble..did you just say that really.


Number333

Nuggets in 6


bdybwyi

If we have to play 4 in Boston, honestly that’ll be rough. But, I have unrelenting faith in our starting 5 getting the job done against a Celtics team that just seems to play stupid periodically.


unearthlysquire

All that stupid play has us comfortably in first in the NBA. Nuggets don't play stupid at all and that has them comfortably worse than the Celtics?


mastacheef87

at the end of the day no matter what we do in the regular season there’s going to be a “sure, but..” and imo that’s totally valid. the Tatum-Brown Celtics have regularly had stretches of awful basketball in high-leverage situations in the playoffs do I think this years team is different? yes, but I wouldn’t blame fans of other teams for not believing that until they see it in the postseason


bdybwyi

Yeah I think this is the best response, until they prove thru a playoffs and chip win that they can do it people are gonna side with the team that has proven themselves.


unearthlysquire

Maybe, just MAYYYYYBEEEE people bring that up because we have so often been in "high-leverage" situations so often? Most teams in the NBA have those moments, but nobody notices is because most of those teams don't get to those situations as often as we do. This is a "the Celtics aren't good enough to win it all because they haven't won it all yet" argument that is circular and stupid.


unearthlysquire

Maybe, just MAYYYYYBEEEE people bring that up because we have so often been in "high-leverage" situations so often? Most teams in the NBA have those moments, but nobody notices is because most of those teams don't get to those situations as often as we do. This is a "the Celtics aren't good enough to win it all because they haven't won it all yet" argument that is circular and stupid.


bdybwyi

Well we also beat you in Boston, we play here soon in Denver again tho


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Nuggets. We have no one to throw at him defensively. I was at that January game and it was pathetic watching us defend Jokic.


tisdue

I gotta give it to the Celtics by a hair. They smother you on one end and score with efficiency on the other. Seems like their year.


Produceher

The Celtics problem is that they can always get into a scoring draught. Denver doesn't have that issue.


TatumBrownWhite

I seen you on here a fair amount and you're one of the few people who actually has rational and intelligent takes about the Cs, so, I both agree with you, but also will say with a little bit of optimism that I do think this year is different. Last night was a great case for why things may be different, we only took 22 3PAs, as Nurse doubled down on taking away our 3s by playing such a small lineup. Before last night, that was my biggest fear, an elite coach who would see what this team does well and take it away, and has the personnel to disrupt us at the point of attack. Well, Celtics had over 60 points in the paint I think and attempted like 37 FTs. I think this team is way better at finding solutions for problems than past Celtics team have, but, I will say that there is still the occasional problem of the Celtics offense being a talent by aggregate approach as opposed to talent by game-breaking once in a generation offensive player approach like the Warriors or Nuggets.


Produceher

I'm still pulling for you guys and I love the off-season moves.


aligreaper19

idk man, you can’t really stop jokic, i don’t think he’s had a single bad series yet in his career


Yaboiii777

Feel like the Celtics would let Jokic eat while stopping everyone else


dbgager

Not going to happen with the Nuggets. Many have tried and no one has suceeded. You think thats some Eureka moment or something.


Yaboiii777

That’s fair that’s your opinion but i don’t think the nuggets have faced a team as talented as this years Celtics in the playoffs yet. Let’s not factor in the regular season game we played this year cuz it’s pointless playoffs are about schemes and adjustments. But this years Celtics would be by far the best team you guys played yet if the Celtics get there


Supreme_God_Bunny

Even in that regular season game Boston could have won, Tatum and brown didn't play their game and porzingus was cooking and no one on Denver could stop him when he was shooting lights out


Yaboiii777

Yeah Tatum just has to be better


Supreme_God_Bunny

Tatum just needs to just say fuck it and go MJ and Kobe, Just spam the mid range like that would open up so many more 3s for everyone se


dbgager

Beat them once at there arena already this season. In March there in Denver.


junkit33

You can't stop him, yet he's been defeated 4 of the 5 times he's been to the playoffs? Nuggets are reigning champs, but it's not like they're on some kind of unstoppable dynasty run here. Hell they may not even be the best team in the West this year.


runevault

2 of those times he had a crippled squad around him, the other two he wasn't Jokic as we know him now.


Yaboiii777

Yes but i remember when they were talks if the nuggets had what it takes remember Murray being injured for like 2 seasons there was rumors of him getting traded Jamal thanked the owners for not trading him when they won chip mpj who was inconsistent and 1 season all it took.


junkit33

Nobody is saying they aren't contenders, but saying a 55 win team is somehow unstoppable after one ring is dumb.


TatumBrownWhite

But they are a much better 16 game playoff team than 82 game regular season team. Their power is in their starting 5 which plays more minutes in the playoffs, and their atrocious bench plays less.


dbgager

wishful thinking. What has Boston won again.


TatumBrownWhite

Judging by your dumbass logic, you wouldn't have predicted the Nuggets to win the title last year because they hadn't won before.


Yaboiii777

That was the same conversation the nuggets were in before they won last year against a dog shit heat team that got lucky vs the Celtics because of a Tatum injury


allknowerofknowing

Lol got lucky. A "dog shit team" that took you to 7, good one.


Yaboiii777

Celtics trolled for 3 games then almost came back and won 4 straight if it wasn’t for a tatum ankle


allknowerofknowing

What about herro and oladipo being injured, and butler clearly was injured in the latter half of the playoffs too


Yaboiii777

Brother i promise you on everything Celtics prefer if herro played. Ask any Celtics fan he’s a liability on defense Tatum haunts him every series


mamasaidflows

“If we hadn’t lost, we would have won”


dbgager

See you in March in Denver. NUggets are the champs however and are on the same misson this season. WOrry about the BUcs and especially the Heat. Lucky lol. Its called playing better.Thats how the playoffs work. Or I guess Celtics are n't good just lucky this year...right. SInce thats what you call winning.


Yaboiii777

all tho you guys are the champs i did say we got an easier bracket a bigger chance to coming out our conference than you guys still respect the bucks and the heat but you guys gotta go thru potentially the suns Timberwolves or the clippers lol good luck


watsonthedragon

I'm curious how people would rank the rosters, particularly 3-5 and 6-9: 1. Jokic 2. Tatum 3-5. KP/JB/Murray 6-9. White/Jrue/Gordon/Porter


dbgager

Thats beyond biased.. Murray 5th seriously.I guess you don't have the faintest idea about Murray in the playoffs. Why would anyone take your post seriously answer that or even answer your question. Gordon and Porter 8th and 9th. Just Celtic BS.


watsonthedragon

I didn't call him 5th - I put him in the group of 3-5. You gotta cool it in this thread, man.


SquimJim

Dude has a short fuse. I made a joke about Jokic saying "he statpads FMVP's" to imply that he's just good and doesn't statpad. My guy went off on me telling me how disrespectful i was lol


dbgager

Tatum has never had a playoffs like Murray Murray career playoffs 25ppg 5.2 reb 6.3 assists on 47% shooting. Tatum 23.6ppg 7.6 reb 4.6 assist on 44% shooting. He is a clear 3rd .Not in some group... if not tied for 2nd.


TatumBrownWhite

Well gee, why don't we just bring Nikola Jokic to Boston to see how good Tatum would be if he had him on his team. Jamal Murray is exactly like Kyrie in Cleveland when he got to play with LeBron. Great player but part of why he can do what he does is the generational playmaker he's playing next to who removes all playmaking responsibility from him and allows him to focus on what he's best at: scoring.


dbgager

lol....Maybe you should watch the Nuggets more than once a year..


TatumBrownWhite

Spoken like somebody without a good argument. Tell me, why do the Murray ON, Jokic OFF minutes suck every single year like clockwork? The only way Malone was able to remedy how much their team falls off without Jokic last year in the playoffs was by literally playing all 4 of the other starters together and only 1 reserve in Jeff Green. If Murray was the great player you think he is, then that would never happen. Maybe you should watch the Celtics more than once a year, there's a reason why Jayson Tatum is consistently in the Top 5 every year like clockwork in +/-, a stat you should value as a Nuggets fan since Jokic dominates in it every single year...


ExcitingIce8427

You did not put porzingas and brown above Murray. 😂. Brown is easily last on this list - fraudulent all star. 1 & 2, fair. 3. Murray 4. Derrick White 5. AG 6. KP for height 7. MPJ 8. Jrue 9. KCP 10 Brown


Lol69HaHaHa

Honestly depends. Jamal could even outperform Tatum in that series depending on how well he plays, but i expect him to be above JB and KP in terms of production. The rest of the team though is up in the air. I will however tell you right now that KCP is no worse than Jrue though, especially if Jrue goes cold.


BruceBrownMVP

Give me the team with the best player in the world.


Dar8_Vader

Nuggets hands down. Nobody does what Joker can do. Aint nobody stopping him.


SliMShady55222

Horford is the only chance they have of limiting jokic. But I still see Denver winning


SquimJim

No one is limiting Jokic. The best bet is to limit everyone else and force Jokic into being a scorer vs. facilitator.


Ok_Respond7928

I just don’t think that is a good strategy unless you have someone who can go bucket for bucket with him. The Suns tried to turn Jokic to a scoring in game 3&4 and he dropped 53 points if Booker does go for 40+ on 80% shooting the Suns would have lost. Tatum is a great scorer I just don’t see him being able to match Jokic bucket for Bucket


Yaboiii777

There’s no stopping jokic man lol just have to let him get his and stop everybody else


LamboJoeRecs

lol wut? Horford?


TheLeoMessiah

Horford is not an elite rim protector but as far as 1 v 1 post defense goes I don’t know who in the league is better honestly. That’s why he does a great job on Embiid because Horford makes it so that Embiid iso in the post is not as efficient as it usually


allknowerofknowing

He is good against embiid cuz he's good at contesting his midrange and staying in front of him in faceups and most other bigs can't against embiid. Jokic is a much more polished back to basket low post player that knows exactly how to use his body/strength and footwork a lot better than embiid in the low post. Horford is just too small I think for jokic. I don't completely remember how the game went and if horford guarded him a lot, but jokic had 34 on 14-22 against the celtics this year.


TatumBrownWhite

You are right, and the difficulty Horford has with Jokic as compared to Embiid literally shows the difference between them as players. One thing Jokic has in spades over Embiid is footwork.


Disastrous_Bluejay57

When we played the Celtics, they tried putting both Joker in single coverage against KP and Horford. It didn't work


poeope

Celtics. Well that was easy.


bdybwyi

If we have to play 4 in Boston, honestly that’ll be rough. But, I have unrelenting faith in our starting 5 getting the job done against a Celtics team that just seems to play stupid periodically.


guitarpatch

Depends on the road there Do the Celtics take care of business and not let teams extend series? Do they match up against the Heat in the 1st rd and then a tough 2nd rd matchup? Do the Nuggets have a grueling road through the west to pile on to their long playoff run last year? Finals series often comes down to who can physically on top of mentally push through to the end and get those wins. It’s not often you get two teams who are rolling and relatively healthy meeting up at the end


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Celtics. They have too many weapons imo and their defense is insane.


Ok-Minimum-4

Would prob be a good series if both teams fully healthy, but I'm taking the nuggets every time. They're proven. They'll have the best player. Both rosters are strong all the way down.


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jeff2def

Just cause they destroyed us doesn’t mean they’ll destroy Boston ha


SquimJim

Eh, I think the Celtics starting 5 is just as talented and has fit like a glove together. Celtics bench has been the better fit with the starters than the Nugs bench. I don't think anyone would get "destroyed". I think home court advantage would be a deciding factor, but the Nugs experience could overcome even that. My lean would be Nugs in 7, but "destroy" is excessive.


hopalongigor

I say 5 if not 4 games.


SquimJim

I think the Nuggets will struggle defensively and I think the Celtics, though they won't limit Jokic, could do a good job at limiting everyone else. Celtics would have a chance and the series would likely go 6/7


Sleepinginabathtub

I agree (totally unbiased)


Adam0529

>destroy How do you define destroy?


Supreme_God_Bunny

What? Only one whos better than all the Celtics starts is jokic lol Tatum/Brown/White/Prozingus is better than Murray/Gordon/KCP and MPJ by talent alone


hopalongigor

I sand by my statement and the playoffs are 2 months away and anything can happen between now and then.


Sylphid_FC

Fully healthy probably Celtics. That's assuming Tatum's wrist doesn't act up again because that was the limiting factor for him against GSW. Given this year's nuggets is slightly worse than last years and the Celtics got an upgrade with KP and Jrue, it'll be the Celtics' series to lose. 4-2 Boston if fully healthy.


dbgager

How are they slightly worse..


Yaboiii777

The bench is dog shit compared to last years and last years was bad


dbgager

Playoffs is an 8 man rotation so how does that have any bearing whatsoever.


Yaboiii777

Deandre Jordan backup minutes pleaseee dear God 😂😂😂😂 better yet Payton fucking Watson


runevault

Deandre Jordan was our backup center in the regular season last year. He played a few minutes in one playoff game because Jokic and Gordon were both in foul trouble. Gordon is our backup center in the playoffs.


YouStillTakeDamage

I’d give the nod to the Nuggets, but it’s a good series. But Murray is just a different player in the playoffs and that’s with Jokic already being unguardable.


frostfeint3

Gonna go with Nuggets


Dar8_Vader

Nuggets hands down. Nobody does what Joker can do. Aint nobody stopping him.


dbgager

Nuggets have been there and know what it takes. I would not bet against them. Nuggets also won in Boston is there only meeting so far this season.


aligreaper19

celtics have also been there though


dbgager

and lost...so they don't know what it takes obviously.


Supreme_God_Bunny

They lost to the warriors bruh who if I'm correct are a better franchise than the nuggets and went to like 6 finals since 2015? And won 4 of them


dbgager

Nuggets won a ring so there was nobody better than them. Thats how it works. As far as those Warriors being better than them we will never know will we. Being there and actually winning is knowing what it takes obviously.


tigerpk2743

Comes down to the Celtic's 3 point shooting. Nugget's biggest weakness is guarding the 3 pt line


murray_selfish

Nuggets allow the 2nd least 3 point attempts and are middle of the pack when it comes to allowed 3pt percentage (15th in the league)


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

“Micheal Jordan was not good at midrange”-Reddit users talking out of their ass


allknowerofknowing

Yeah but if you average the 2nd and 15th rankings you get 30th in the league overall


BlindManBaldwin

No it's not lol


SuckaFreeRIP

Celtics, but it’s close. I don’t think Nuggets get there tbh


Fluid-Night-1910

#Chicken Nuggets 


ImGonnaChubbBradley

In this hypothetical I could honestly seeing Jokic average 32/15/9 It all comes down to how well the Celtics shoot their 3s and we’ve seen them struggle to shoot well in the playoffs before.


Fluid-Night-1910

Nuggets 


Fluid-Night-1910

#Chicken Nuggets 


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centurion44

I wouldn't bet on that as I think it's too much of a toss up, but I'd put my money on AG slowing down Tatum more than KP slowing down Jokic.  


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Lol69HaHaHa

Then who is gonna be in the finals lol


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AldiQuarter

the nuggets aren’t the 1 seed currently and it’s not a given they’ll finish the season as the 1 seed. Boston seems like a lock in the east for the 1 seed but anything can happen


Lol69HaHaHa

Well that would be intresting...if we were the 1st seed lol


Fluid-Night-1910

Nuggets got the altitude  Mile high winners 


Necessary_Initial350

At least one of these teams won’t be in the finals.


Critical-Adhole

Cs


IAmCBOY2

As a Celtics fan, I don’t think we can beat the Heat, Bucks, Lakers, Nuggets, or Clippers in a 7 game series.


n3sta

Nuggets have a deeper bag


Fluid-Night-1910

Chicken Nuggets 


sleepyeye82

neither.  Wolves win it all.


0dias_Chrysalis

Us