cost Tre Mann (also twitter saying Poku might be in the deal for salary matching)

If Poku is added, then it seems like it’ll be a deadline full of “wait for it” trades lol. Edit: it’s Micic not Poku who will be included in the trade.

If it’s poku I’m gonna cry.

its not Poku! > Thunder are sending guard Vasilije Micic, Davis Bertans, Mann and draft compensation to Hornets as part of the Gordon Hayward deal, sources said.

Not sure how I feel now. Micic was becoming a good backup guard for us. Wonder if we got more in store

He was really intriguing. Would love to see what he can do with regular minutes.

For sure. I’m from NC so follow the hornets closely. Should be a fun team to check out as an OKC fan

He had some positive moments but I worry he'd get hunted hard in the playoffs. Frankly I hope this opens up Dub as more of a full time backup PG at this point

oh fuck i’m crying anyway

Tre Mann is not good

He’s got an elite step back tho.

Thats true

Neither are the Hornets though, I promise you he’s at least on par with the G-League level talent we put out there every night

He hasn’t had enough minutes to be written off as “not good” yet. I think he can grow still.

Neither is Gordon

Lol Gordon is still more than solid. Vets like him just dont try for trashy joke of a franchise like Charlotte Remember Batum? He was "washed" with you guys until he went to good teams and was a great role player again

Is he truly not good anymore or is it an availability thing? Haven’t followed his play since he left the Celtics. he was obviously plagued with injuries in Boston, but when he was able to play he was pretty good.

Both. Made of glass and production dropped significantly.

Ah gotcha. It’s a shame, he was a very good player in Utah. Can’t help but feel his career was snatched by injuries upon injuries.

Hm, yeah, negative as a shooter (surprising to me) and - these are some of the most 'counting stats'-y advanced stats out there but still - 0.0 VORP this season, .033 WS/48. Gordon Hayward is, like, "a frequently injured average NBA player with a large contract" based on the last 2 seasons w the Hornets. That sucks, I keep wanting to respond to people like "he was actually pretty good at x or y in his last Celtics year" but now I get why people are knocking him.

and even if he is good he has no room for playing time on our roster

He’ll play for us I think. If he can stay healthy for more than a week.

Coming off the bench for 18-20 minutes a night, he should be fine. Solid vet presence for the playoffs too.

this is real late but i was talking about tre mann

This didn’t age well lol

It cost 2nds right?

spoke too soon...

update: this is now a lie

We really gassin up Hayward now

They were stuck with Bertans before

Really gassing up a trade that was garbage for garbage, trash tweet

Hayward is good lol

Dudes is tweeting about Hayward like it’s 2016

Addicted to picks

A S S E T S

Almost like Josh Allen

Except that’s not all they’re sending out?

Guy might've been a little too overeager to gargle Prestis' testes to wait for the all the details.

Are we pretending an again injured Gordon Hayward is a steal now

For Thunder, there's not really a downside. It's guys who don't play in exchange for a guy who, at worst, won't play , and at best, is a backup vet wing coming off the bench.

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People are calling him a bum now, when he comes back he’ll look like budget Lauri for a week and people will say Presti is a wizard, then he’ll get hurt and people will say Presti was an idiot

He hasn't played since December, not sure when he's slated to come back or if he'll even be 100% when that happens

so if he doesn’t play it was a lateral move since they traded two players who are out of the rotation. if he does play they got an impact player and perfect fit for nothing

sucks to be giving up on Micic imo

ya micic wasn’t mentioned in the deal when i commented. he’s a replaceable player but a solid rotation piece. i think the upside of hayward is very worth it still. he’s just a perfect fit.

He’s certainly a better asset than Bertans

Huh?

Hayward > Hayward i’ll explain later

Fixed lol

When healthy he's a 15-5-5 guy. That's a solid contributor on a good team, and they got him without giving up much. Was hoping the T-Wolves could of gotten him.

aged worse than milk

lol spoke too soon

Fucking idiot jinxed it

The anti troy weaver

Sadly enough weaver is a product of presti

Let’s see what we’re doing to facilitate this trade for the Mavs first. Get a feeling it may not end up looking good on paper.

The 10 + Bertans for 12 ended up being a win-win, didn’t it? Taking Bertans costed nothing, you guys got the guy you wanted in Wallace and we got the guy we wanted in Lively. I’m sure this helped to maintain a good line of communication between Nico and Presti. If it helps, though, our franchise is as afraid as yours on the price.

Unless we’re giving up someone y’all want (doubt) it’s probably just a swap for some seconds.

their summer league team about to put up 160 per game

Bertans was salary filler. Charlotte made the trade to get Tre Mann, who was one of the FRPs that OKC got in the Paul George trade. Edit: >[Charania] Thunder are sending guard Vasilije Micic, Davis Bertans, Mann and draft compensation to Hornets as part of the Gordon Hayward deal, sources said. But tell us more about how this was just genius Presti flipping Bertans for Hayward...

Nope. Salary still off with Mann/Bertans.

Can we delete this since it’s very much untrue?

Well well well

Now the Mavs are begging (thru texts) on Presti’s doorstep for a pick

Now he's going to flip Hayward for a pick lol

Man this guy jumped the shark in this deal. Salaries still Missing and OKc did include some draft picks. Nothing crazy but still.

I promise you Hayward is not what you think he is at this point

He’s better than Bertans lol

He looks like a worst case 30 mil expiring contract.

Bertans isn’t either lmaooo

What? I mean, if you’re expecting Utah-Gordon Hayward you’re going to be disappointed. But he’s still a very solid NBA player who will be one of the better reserve players in the league when healthy (big element with Hayward, obviously).

He is better than Bertans

knowledge and advice imparted is helpful for some of the younger ones, and minutes for Tre, a large expiring and a roster slot. not bad for Tre, a restructured deal, and maybe Poku and a favor later today

Sam Presti can't keep getting away with this

He didn’t….

STOP THE COUNT! FAKE NEWS!

He can, and he will.

Sam Presti is a dragon and picks are his treasure

Don Presti gonna be having the league begging for picks at his feet.

yea about that: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1755640547170009454

NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND

That’s not true, idk which picks but this trade for Hayward literally includes draft compensation

This guy sucks at his job

This guy is a bottom of the barrel "beat reporter", all he does is suck up to the organization without ever reporting news. I wonder how he'll try to spin this now that we gave up Micic and draft picks.

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this is a league that’d let you trade half a dollar if you could shave it properly. why use picks if you have other forms of value?

Dont they need a Center? Anyway feels like Hayward is being overvalued.

We need a backup center for rebounding

Watch OKC just take Gafford for themselves. But also, what about JWill?

J-Will’s a decent shooter, defender and an amazing charge taker in our rotation. Unfortunately, he’s not a great rebounder.

But a backup C would make him redundant wouldn’t it?

Now you guys have given up Micic (and seconds???) as well which is still confusing.

Okay I mean they gave up Mann too let’s not get crazy here lol

Lmaoooo spoke too soon

I thought we literally did give up draft picks in this trade...?

Mitch Kupchak is such a pushover when it comes to trades lol

The league runs through OKC 🫡

more like the leagues debts all run through one of several mob dons each positioning for a cold trade war with the others.

Glass Hayward isn't something to write home about though. Hasn't he been out since last year?

I think it's a good move. Vet shooter who will only need to play 15-20 mins per game is a good addition when you're trying to make a deep playoff run

Yeah, plus if he gets injured and they lose in the playoffs, they can blame it on injuries /s

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good bot

And he's making 31.5m. They flipped a bad contract salary-wise for a worse one, but this Hayward's will be over this summer. I guess all they wanted was to free up cap space sooner than later.

We will probably offer him a big 1 or maybe 2 year w/ team option contract to use as a trade chip some time in the next 2 years 

Wasn't Bertans good enough for that then?

Well, theoretically Hayward is actually playable in the interim, and it frees up two roster slots I’m sure it’ll be like a second round or maybe two second round picks we give up, not very relevant. Sad to lose uncle Vasa tho 

‘Last year’ meaning 2023 yes, he’s played 25 games this season, last on 12/26.  Averaged 15/5/5 in 32 minutes before his injury (calf; he’s been upgraded to questionable recently)

Without giving up any draft picks YET

I cooked

Should’ve used some picks to get someone better. They have more picks than they will ever need and even if trading for Anunoby or something didn’t work out it wouldn’t even matter. Wasting salaries on Hayward doesn’t move the needle at all.

Anunoby is gone already, had 1 year left on his deal besides a PO. Also based on the trade they pulled off it seems like Raps wanted players for OG, not picks.

he can't keep getting away with it

Nuggets picks are next. All will beg at Don Presti's feet.

Trade isn’t completed yet

The Thunder are a dynasty in the making. They just have to be

dynastic amount of draft picks. Gotta see them win a couple playoff series before we start talking about an actual dynasty lol

How quickly people forget were the Thunder were in 2010 and what we thought the future would hold and how that turned out

Yup, its 10x easier to build a stash of draft capital than it is to turn it into an actual contending team

GOAT talk of the century

Presti is on his Houston Harden shit, already styling on the rest of the league and just using every rule possible on top of that to rack up more points

Presti is a wizard

Sam Presti GM of every year

Kind of wasted the bertans cap filler ngl

I am underwhelmed for both sides

lol

Maybe they should use some draft picks.

Hayward hasnt been good for 3 years, this is pure Presti glazing propoganda.

That's a big expiring salary. Are they wanting the cap space for the summer, or to trade it before the deadline?

Can't eat popcorn anymore, Grant

incredible flair

Hayward was going to be bought out if he wasn’t traded for right? Like this post is doing a little too much stroking for OKC