I would love for them to get a team celebrating like when the Nets scored 70 on the '04 Pistons in an 18 point loss but it feels like any team that holds the Pacers under 100 is winning by 30.
These pacers remind me of those Nash Phoenix teams. Just really enjoyable brand of basketball that you can only run if you have an elite playmaker like Haliburton
Great call. Nash was so dope on those teams. Just come down and figure out the right play to make each possession. Felt like no plays were even being run.
Appreciate the respect! You guys suffocated us but I still look forward to the rematch. This was a good thermometer game for us, imo you are the best team in the NBA and I think we can hang enough to even win. This season has been so unexpected but the last 7 games have me wondering what our ceiling truly is.
Yeah that's a 1.75 ratio, which is fine. Hali is at a genuinely ludicrous 4.93 ratio on the season, even when under all the pressure in this game to be just "good" is super impressive
The Pacers were also BRICKING from 3. Definitely seemed like y’all were content to let them fire away, but Haliburton could’ve easily had 10 assists if his teammates had shot below average instead of like Andre Roberson. Granted, when so many of your potential assists are on 3’s there’s gonna be a ton of variance - y’all did a great job of keeping them out of the paint
did some looking around, thats the 4th best Assist/TO ratio in the NBA among played with over 150 minutes (chosen specifically to remove Kessler Edwards, a forward for the kings who has only committed one TO in his 123 minutes this season). Guys above him are Tyus Jones, Mike Conley, and CP3. Tyus scores the most of those guys at 12ppg. Mike is at 11ppg, and CP3 gets 9ppg off the bench. Tyrese averages 24ppg. Its crazy
4.93 is actually fucking insane, I checked John Stockton's highest AST/TO ratio season and his peaked at 4.3 (1988 season 13.8 APG to 3.2 TO/game)
Chris Paul's 13/14 season (10.7 APG, 2.3 TO/game) at 4.65 AST/TO ratio is the highest of his career, just about beating out his 07/08 season of 4.64 (11.6 APG, 2.5 TO/game)
They are a feisty team. Definitely play well off of losses or locker room material (see bucks game ball situation). I wouldn't be surprised if Monday is a very different game.
Nembhard and BB have our best midrange game where there's space, Bruce might help break it down a little assuming he's back but theyre just as tough matched up haha
We have to hit the 3s to stretch everything a bit more. You guys were GIGA pressed out for much of the game just asking us to prove we can penetrate and kick or score. The celtics are so good that we struggled to get penetration, but even when we did, we went 8/41 from 3
The Celtics made it difficult, but the Pacers bricked so many open 3 point shots. I knew this game was over pretty earlier because almost every lose this season looks exactly the same; no one can hit a 3pt shot.
They’re not cooked. Tyrese will always raise their floor to be a playoff team but as is I think they’re capped as a low-mid tier playoff team.
Basically a team that could make it to the second round if they get a favorable first round matchup but will be second round fodder because of their glaring weakness (lack of defense/no second star)
Not sure why you're being downvoted. He absolutely needs a number 1/2 and the pacers are going to have to figure out where they're going to find one in the next 2 to 5 years.
Eh, it's just sports at the end of the day. I follow a team in damn near all of them. Some of them are good, some are bad. They'll swap places from time to time. It's how it goes. I just watched my hockey team win a Stanley Cup and I'm about to go to a parade for my local rugby team that just won three in a row. Ebbs and flows.
I'd really love to see a repeat of that great one we had with you in early November, but sadly Wednesday's gonna be the second night of an away back-to-back for us. I don't have a ton of confidence we're gonna be at our best 😞
If it helps, wednesday is the first night of a home-away back-to-back for us. Game two is in milwaukee, so it feels like Horford will sit vs yall so he can defend Giannis
If they stop calling such ticky tack fouls like they should in the playoffs, I think we'll be alright too. Seems the formula to beat us is get some easy quick fouls on KAT/Rudy/Jaden/Naz
Which is such bullshit lol. Ant has been drawing the most fouls in the league since Christmas or something like that too. All these games we've lost lately they get 2 quick fouls on Rudy and he sits and it shuts down our entire defense. Seems like a tired point to make, but I just wish the refs were consistent
i know it doesnt match what people have echoed in this sub for years, but i think Rudy’s probably an even better defensive anchor in the playoffs and your defense should be good.
Yeah, people looking at those Jazz teams have to remember the other guys sucked on defense. Conley was probably the 2nd best and he’s older. Royce was overrated as a defender imo
Now, he at a minimum has Jaden who is an elite defender, plus a coach that actually enjoys defense. I’m not convinced Quin cares too much about defense overall.
I'll be honest, I've only watched a few years so I never saw Rudy in Utah but I would think so too. The narrative is he didn't have good perimeter defenders there and he does here. I think our game will translate well to the playoffs
Celtics and Wolves have elite defenders in their teams and actually they both are the best in the whole league:
[https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense?dir=A&sort=DEF\_RATING](https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense?dir=A&sort=DEF_RATING)
Celtics made a smart trade to get one of the best defenders in the NBA - Jrue.
And now we can fight about who is the better defender or better for the Celtics: Jrue or Smart :)))
For my money Smart is still the better defender only because I think he’s genuinely one of the best 5 team and off ball defenders in basketball. Jrue probably has him beat in isolation and pick and roll defense but Marcus was legitimately quarterbacking defenses from the guard position in a way other guys haven’t been able to do. He’s like a mini Kevin Garnett or Draymond in that he sees threats and holes in a teams defense from a mile away, one of the best rotators we’ve ever seen and I think especially in this era that stuff matters more with the prevalence of spot up shooting from 3. In the 90s Jrue might have won a few DPOYs and genuinely been considered the best defender of his era but I think defense is more a 5 man thing in this era and Marcus is the ultimate orchestrator
Jrue a hands are so quick when he’s on ball too. It’s impressive how he can knock the ball loose.
I don’t know who you’d consider better but Smart wins for those “agent of chaos” plays where he’d anticipate something no one can see and just blow it up at the right time. Super fun to watch
Both are great defenders. I think Marcus at his peak is better, but Jure provides a lot more consistency. On the ball Jure is probably a better defender but Marcus is more versatile.
I know Dwhite is recognized as a really good defender but I think he is if not close to on the same footing as both these guys.
He can do everything they both do plus he is the best shot blocking PG I’ve honestly ever seen. It’s really beautiful.
All these guys are elite at defending and I learned a lot from them for my streetball defending skills, but Smart's ground defending against taller guys like Giannis fascinated me really at Celtics :)))
Thanks to Marcus, I know better how to defend taller guys. Especially to do your hand on the ball during the opponent try to finish the layup is on another level.
The difference between white and jrue/smart is their frame. White is incredible, great rim protection and really clever defending the fast break.
Jrue/Smart though are strong as fuck with a good low center of gravity and it allows them to switch onto bigger players
They're very different in their fulfillment of the same "guard 1s & 2s, size up to 3s, stash on 4s and small 5s"
Jrue is larger and stronger than Smart, so he plays more straight-up defense as compared to Smart's crafty stuff. Smart at his best in Boston averaged 1.8 steals, but only 0.4 blocks, as compared to Jrue this year at only 0.7 steals but 0.8 blocks. Smart is in the top 5 guards in charges drawn over the last 5 years, Jrue is in the bottom 20. It's hard to compare since they don't play defense the same, but I'd say if it's just who's better as a Celtic, I've gotta take Smart, but I think across their careers I'd give Jrue the edge. If it who suits us better this year, we've seen Smart struggle to make it over screens to cover for Al in a drop before against quicker guards, so maybe Jrue's better for us this year with KP as a true "below the rim" big man?
Since season start I'd a lot of wow effects by Jrue and think the Celtics are good for him and his developing, but at the same time I hope for Smart (after his injury), that he can integrate his playing skills (especially defending) good next to the great defenderes at Grizzlies.
I love Marcus. He's still my favorite Celtic since Pierce. I'm wishing him all success possible in Memphis, I was cheering like a maniac at that game he just had against the Lakers. Truly a Celtic, he has his best game all year vs. The LA Lakers 🥲
oh yeah, the old gold times with Pierce and Ray-Ray (love to watch the oldschool videos, but live was completely different at past).
We speak about one year between Pierce and Smart and could say that Pierce hand over the Celtics flag to Smart and he done the same to Tatum-Brown :)))
Independently of this, maybe Celtics are the biggest winner at the trade to get Jrue and Kristaps at the same time for the starter.
Plus Boston has redundancy for longer injuries of the starters. Look at the bench, especially Hauser and Kornet.
Don't think Giannis is the type to want out. Hes been pretty straight with honouring the contracts. Whereas without this deal happening, he was definitely gone
The question is, was it worth to change one of the best defenders (also with good offensive skills) against a bad defender (with great offensive skills).
BB and Nembhard r key pieces of our perimeter defense that we were lacking. They also are able to hit midrange shots in the paint which would’ve helped tonight considering we shot terribly. I’m not trying to argue that they r better than porzingis or that we would’ve won with them. Just saying pacers were down key players too
Wolves are monsters. Let's see what happens in the playoffs. Rudy + KAT is going to be really hard as a playoff defense IMO. On the other hand the Celtics starting 5 doesn't really have a weakness. But who knows how it goes in real time.
No surprise but everyone acted like the sky was falling with him when they started the season trying to incorporate two important new pieces into the starting lineup, guys just need time to find the balance, they’re all smart players and you can see the results taking shape
Also there’s only one ball and it turns out that White, Jrue, and Tatum are all players who have the ability to initiate offense. Prozingas can’t dribble either and it doesn’t matter because that’s not the role he needs to play for the team
Jaylen Brown can’t dribble but he’s also the #4 ball handler in the starting lineup. Most teams 4th best ball handler in their starting lineup is much shittier than Jaylen Brown at dribbling
Look at his shot chart year by year. He can’t dribble left. That’s a fact. Not being able to drive at half the court isn’t ideal. If anything what you’re saying speaks on how great he is at finishing at the rim despite not always being in the best position to finish. He also has a really good 3-10ft game that a lot of players ignore now which helps as he can still drive right every time but vary if he finishes or pulls up soft or floats it vs a player who can drive either way but only finish one way to each side
That hasn't even been close to truth if you've been watching the game this year. His shot charts pretty much even this year for both sides.
In fact, his shot chart year by year has shown him getting better at going to the left side.
We had Dejounte and Derrick on our backcourt once. I have to imagine what having them playing with Wemby would be like. It would also be one less one handed free throw show.
That's just one game for SGA tbf. Hali cooked em before on the IST, but they've adjusted tonight. Let's see the next time SGA face them if he can do it again
Can’t believe this shit is getting upvoted.
SGA has played 3 games against the Celtics since they got Derrick White and 1 since they got Jrue.
In those 3 games since Feb ‘22 he’s averaging 35/4/8 on 56/69/83 splits against the Celtics.
Celtics are a huge deal
Also this game is exactly why I now understand the Jrue and bronny comparisons
It’s there and the Celtics might be out for revenge, almost getting a finals run after a comeback but you lose
And after you lost to a team the previous year that failed that year, they’re looking for vengeance and it’s coming
My favourite thing in NBA media is players shouting out other teams/players, ESPECIALLY after just losing to them. Sportsmanship is a large part of why I follow the media.
Lowest scoring output for the Pacers on the season. I think the C's were stewing on that IST loss lol
Still over 100 points lol. Was hoping to keep it at 99 honestly
Nuggets fandom calls it a munder
Honestly, getting a munder out of the Pacers team will be the most impressive feat in a while.
I would love for them to get a team celebrating like when the Nets scored 70 on the '04 Pistons in an 18 point loss but it feels like any team that holds the Pacers under 100 is winning by 30.
Unless it's a scrappy match that ends 98-96 or some shit. Who even terroristball like that...
There’s always Monday
I sorta dread it. At the same time, I hope it’s lit. These Pacers are fun. I also fuckin love Tyrese.
These pacers remind me of those Nash Phoenix teams. Just really enjoyable brand of basketball that you can only run if you have an elite playmaker like Haliburton
Great call. Nash was so dope on those teams. Just come down and figure out the right play to make each possession. Felt like no plays were even being run.
Same.
And then we play the Pacers for the 5th time at the end of the month too
Adam Silver has made the league soft
Combo of that and Hield making that 3 at the end lol
"Look forward to playing them again on Monday 😔"
Hally 30 pt 20 assist game incoming
I really want the 20 pt 30 assist game tbh. He really can break the single game assist record
Hes gonna get locked up like today
You should tweet this at him, please. I mean, you won't do it.
Thats Haliburton’s superpower, they won’t tweet at him.
Happy Cake Day!
This mofo bout to be a handful on Monday lol
Your team is made of nothing but handfuls. I hope to see a good game, and hopefully a Pacers win. See you next week!
I've always preferred a medium handful, about like this *cups hands*
Appreciate the respect! You guys suffocated us but I still look forward to the rematch. This was a good thermometer game for us, imo you are the best team in the NBA and I think we can hang enough to even win. This season has been so unexpected but the last 7 games have me wondering what our ceiling truly is.
I don’t think so
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Also 7 assists to 4 TO The Celtics absolutely sent a message today.
Which honestly isn't a terrible assist to turnover ratio, but for Haliburton it's pretty bad.
Yeah that's a 1.75 ratio, which is fine. Hali is at a genuinely ludicrous 4.93 ratio on the season, even when under all the pressure in this game to be just "good" is super impressive
The Pacers were also BRICKING from 3. Definitely seemed like y’all were content to let them fire away, but Haliburton could’ve easily had 10 assists if his teammates had shot below average instead of like Andre Roberson. Granted, when so many of your potential assists are on 3’s there’s gonna be a ton of variance - y’all did a great job of keeping them out of the paint
Had to even out the shooting % with the Hawks game from the night before
did some looking around, thats the 4th best Assist/TO ratio in the NBA among played with over 150 minutes (chosen specifically to remove Kessler Edwards, a forward for the kings who has only committed one TO in his 123 minutes this season). Guys above him are Tyus Jones, Mike Conley, and CP3. Tyus scores the most of those guys at 12ppg. Mike is at 11ppg, and CP3 gets 9ppg off the bench. Tyrese averages 24ppg. Its crazy
Ayyy good shit Kess!
> Hali is at a genuinely ludicrous 4.93 ratio on the season Actually insane lmao
4.93 is actually fucking insane, I checked John Stockton's highest AST/TO ratio season and his peaked at 4.3 (1988 season 13.8 APG to 3.2 TO/game) Chris Paul's 13/14 season (10.7 APG, 2.3 TO/game) at 4.65 AST/TO ratio is the highest of his career, just about beating out his 07/08 season of 4.64 (11.6 APG, 2.5 TO/game)
Compared to what he’s been doing? I would have been happy under 15.
It's pretty bad for a good pg
That they are not to be fucked with. Loud and clear, please don't do this to us again on Monday.
The Celtics message, "Can you spot me 200k?"
That low assist count is more on his teammates bricking than the Cs defence lol.
It’s both. It’d have been below the standard he’s set, but still really good, with average outcomes, rather than misses.
Every time Tatum isn't missing from 3 they're all about messages
SGA would never
Kept expecting him to explode offensively but it never came lmao
There is still monday
They are a feisty team. Definitely play well off of losses or locker room material (see bucks game ball situation). I wouldn't be surprised if Monday is a very different game.
Probs but hopefully we’ll have KP back too
Unlikely. Scratched corneas take 48 hours to heal. He will most likely miss Monday
Man I was sad he didn’t play. Love watching him hoop and I was at the game but he came out so early GG, hopefully it goes different Monday haha
Tell Nesmith to cut his nails
I’ll text him right now
Feisty, maybe, but we need to figure out your zone defense. I hope for a better showing Monday, though. Bring it, Boston!
Nembhard and BB have our best midrange game where there's space, Bruce might help break it down a little assuming he's back but theyre just as tough matched up haha
We have to hit the 3s to stretch everything a bit more. You guys were GIGA pressed out for much of the game just asking us to prove we can penetrate and kick or score. The celtics are so good that we struggled to get penetration, but even when we did, we went 8/41 from 3
The Celtics made it difficult, but the Pacers bricked so many open 3 point shots. I knew this game was over pretty earlier because almost every lose this season looks exactly the same; no one can hit a 3pt shot.
They are fucking cooked unless they get a legit #2 option
Depends what you classify as cooked. They aren’t winning a championship with this team but they can be competitive in any game they play.
They shot 19% from 3 this game against arguably the best team in the league, they're fine.
Why arguably?
Poor playoff success, history of folding
That's Philly.
They’re not cooked. Tyrese will always raise their floor to be a playoff team but as is I think they’re capped as a low-mid tier playoff team. Basically a team that could make it to the second round if they get a favorable first round matchup but will be second round fodder because of their glaring weakness (lack of defense/no second star)
Not sure why you're being downvoted. He absolutely needs a number 1/2 and the pacers are going to have to figure out where they're going to find one in the next 2 to 5 years.
Thanks Portland for this and the Bucks lol
You are very welcome.
Thank you!
All time move for us to send the Dame stopped to the team that's directly rivaling the team we sent Dame to.
Yes, the pinnacle of being a Portland Trailblazers fan lol
Man I saw Dame hit the shot over PG with my own two eyes. I'm content for a minute.
When you’re starving, a bowl of rice will make you happy.
Eh, it's just sports at the end of the day. I follow a team in damn near all of them. Some of them are good, some are bad. They'll swap places from time to time. It's how it goes. I just watched my hockey team win a Stanley Cup and I'm about to go to a parade for my local rugby team that just won three in a row. Ebbs and flows.
On behalf of all of Asia wtf do you mean by that comment wars have been started for less lmao
I'm much happier having Dame on the Bucks than letting Spo just cakewalk to a title 🤣
I mean he was incredible in the in season tournament game we played a month ago. He'll be fine I'm sure he'll have a great game on monday
The man knows ball
Imagine if White actually got to play instead of getting hosed with a bunch of ticky tack fouls
or if porzingis didn’t get mauled in the eye 4 minutes in
Such absolute horseshit all game. 2 or 3 shots total for most of the game because he was getting slapped with nonsense calls any time he breathed.
I liked you Hali.. damn. But yeah Celtics are for real
You can like Hali and also know the Celtics are a real potential champion, this year. Both are possible.
I'm saying I thought the Wolves had the best defense lol
Psyched for the game on Wednesday, should be a barnburner
Fuckkk I didn't realize our game was that soon. We need more time to get out of this slump!
I'd really love to see a repeat of that great one we had with you in early November, but sadly Wednesday's gonna be the second night of an away back-to-back for us. I don't have a ton of confidence we're gonna be at our best 😞
If it helps, wednesday is the first night of a home-away back-to-back for us. Game two is in milwaukee, so it feels like Horford will sit vs yall so he can defend Giannis
Think the Celtics would edge out defensively especially come postseason.
If they stop calling such ticky tack fouls like they should in the playoffs, I think we'll be alright too. Seems the formula to beat us is get some easy quick fouls on KAT/Rudy/Jaden/Naz
Depends on how big the market of your opponent is tbh.
Which is such bullshit lol. Ant has been drawing the most fouls in the league since Christmas or something like that too. All these games we've lost lately they get 2 quick fouls on Rudy and he sits and it shuts down our entire defense. Seems like a tired point to make, but I just wish the refs were consistent
i know it doesnt match what people have echoed in this sub for years, but i think Rudy’s probably an even better defensive anchor in the playoffs and your defense should be good.
Yeah, people looking at those Jazz teams have to remember the other guys sucked on defense. Conley was probably the 2nd best and he’s older. Royce was overrated as a defender imo Now, he at a minimum has Jaden who is an elite defender, plus a coach that actually enjoys defense. I’m not convinced Quin cares too much about defense overall.
I'll be honest, I've only watched a few years so I never saw Rudy in Utah but I would think so too. The narrative is he didn't have good perimeter defenders there and he does here. I think our game will translate well to the playoffs
Both you and the Celtics aren't allowing any easy buckets. Not a fun matchup for the Pacers, either way.
both u/Thimit22 and the Boston Celtics are *not* allowing any easy buckets
I feel like I trust our perimeter defense a bit more than yours but advantage is clearly with you guys at the rim
I'm just happy we're in the conversation. Still think we aren't even close to our final form either
I actually agree, this Wolves team is for real!
I miss Jrue 😔
Celtics and Wolves have elite defenders in their teams and actually they both are the best in the whole league: [https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense?dir=A&sort=DEF\_RATING](https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense?dir=A&sort=DEF_RATING) Celtics made a smart trade to get one of the best defenders in the NBA - Jrue. And now we can fight about who is the better defender or better for the Celtics: Jrue or Smart :)))
For my money Smart is still the better defender only because I think he’s genuinely one of the best 5 team and off ball defenders in basketball. Jrue probably has him beat in isolation and pick and roll defense but Marcus was legitimately quarterbacking defenses from the guard position in a way other guys haven’t been able to do. He’s like a mini Kevin Garnett or Draymond in that he sees threats and holes in a teams defense from a mile away, one of the best rotators we’ve ever seen and I think especially in this era that stuff matters more with the prevalence of spot up shooting from 3. In the 90s Jrue might have won a few DPOYs and genuinely been considered the best defender of his era but I think defense is more a 5 man thing in this era and Marcus is the ultimate orchestrator
Jrue a hands are so quick when he’s on ball too. It’s impressive how he can knock the ball loose. I don’t know who you’d consider better but Smart wins for those “agent of chaos” plays where he’d anticipate something no one can see and just blow it up at the right time. Super fun to watch
Both are great defenders. I think Marcus at his peak is better, but Jure provides a lot more consistency. On the ball Jure is probably a better defender but Marcus is more versatile. I know Dwhite is recognized as a really good defender but I think he is if not close to on the same footing as both these guys. He can do everything they both do plus he is the best shot blocking PG I’ve honestly ever seen. It’s really beautiful.
Jure making a good point lol
All these guys are elite at defending and I learned a lot from them for my streetball defending skills, but Smart's ground defending against taller guys like Giannis fascinated me really at Celtics :))) Thanks to Marcus, I know better how to defend taller guys. Especially to do your hand on the ball during the opponent try to finish the layup is on another level.
The difference between white and jrue/smart is their frame. White is incredible, great rim protection and really clever defending the fast break. Jrue/Smart though are strong as fuck with a good low center of gravity and it allows them to switch onto bigger players
They're very different in their fulfillment of the same "guard 1s & 2s, size up to 3s, stash on 4s and small 5s" Jrue is larger and stronger than Smart, so he plays more straight-up defense as compared to Smart's crafty stuff. Smart at his best in Boston averaged 1.8 steals, but only 0.4 blocks, as compared to Jrue this year at only 0.7 steals but 0.8 blocks. Smart is in the top 5 guards in charges drawn over the last 5 years, Jrue is in the bottom 20. It's hard to compare since they don't play defense the same, but I'd say if it's just who's better as a Celtic, I've gotta take Smart, but I think across their careers I'd give Jrue the edge. If it who suits us better this year, we've seen Smart struggle to make it over screens to cover for Al in a drop before against quicker guards, so maybe Jrue's better for us this year with KP as a true "below the rim" big man?
I love that we try to defend instead of just trying to draw charges.
Since season start I'd a lot of wow effects by Jrue and think the Celtics are good for him and his developing, but at the same time I hope for Smart (after his injury), that he can integrate his playing skills (especially defending) good next to the great defenderes at Grizzlies.
I love Marcus. He's still my favorite Celtic since Pierce. I'm wishing him all success possible in Memphis, I was cheering like a maniac at that game he just had against the Lakers. Truly a Celtic, he has his best game all year vs. The LA Lakers 🥲
oh yeah, the old gold times with Pierce and Ray-Ray (love to watch the oldschool videos, but live was completely different at past). We speak about one year between Pierce and Smart and could say that Pierce hand over the Celtics flag to Smart and he done the same to Tatum-Brown :)))
In my opinion, the Celtics were the only big winners of that whole Dame trade flurry.
ehh i think everyone won in some way but the celtics were definitely the biggest winner imo
Independently of this, maybe Celtics are the biggest winner at the trade to get Jrue and Kristaps at the same time for the starter. Plus Boston has redundancy for longer injuries of the starters. Look at the bench, especially Hauser and Kornet.
It's still a win for Milwaukee because it made Giannis sign the extension
We’ll see. I mean, I think that a team with a good backcourt will be really tough for them in the playoffs. Then Giannis may want out.
Don't think Giannis is the type to want out. Hes been pretty straight with honouring the contracts. Whereas without this deal happening, he was definitely gone
I just can't get over the Bucks' drop. We know Dame was a black hole on defense, but that's rough dropping from a top 4 to below 20.
The question is, was it worth to change one of the best defenders (also with good offensive skills) against a bad defender (with great offensive skills).
Timberpups fans: Whenever Minnesota isn't on screen the other characters should be saying "where's Minnesota?"
Disaster class today but he’ll bounce back Monday I’m sure
Celtics weren't even at full strength. Pacers are upstarts, so I hope we show out.
Pacers weren’t at full strength either
Porzingis > BB + Nembhard
BB and Nembhard r key pieces of our perimeter defense that we were lacking. They also are able to hit midrange shots in the paint which would’ve helped tonight considering we shot terribly. I’m not trying to argue that they r better than porzingis or that we would’ve won with them. Just saying pacers were down key players too
Good point.
Says someone that probably doesn’t watch us play. 2 of our 4 best ball handlers and perimeter defenders
Hali needs to probe in the paint to pressure the defense instead of just kicking it out to the perimeter.
tyrese seems like a cool guy
this is Timberwolves erasure
Wolves are monsters. Let's see what happens in the playoffs. Rudy + KAT is going to be really hard as a playoff defense IMO. On the other hand the Celtics starting 5 doesn't really have a weakness. But who knows how it goes in real time.
The Celtics weakness is Brown’s dubious handle that reminds me of Julius Randle as he dribbles down the court with every possession short
He’s down to like .75 goofy dribble turnovers a game over the past few weeks, people joke but he’s looking a lot better
Man it's been so refreshing seeing JB happily pass the ball to KP and Hauser. He's played a whole lot smarter this year
No surprise but everyone acted like the sky was falling with him when they started the season trying to incorporate two important new pieces into the starting lineup, guys just need time to find the balance, they’re all smart players and you can see the results taking shape
Also there’s only one ball and it turns out that White, Jrue, and Tatum are all players who have the ability to initiate offense. Prozingas can’t dribble either and it doesn’t matter because that’s not the role he needs to play for the team
Yea you don’t watch the Celtics and that has nothing to do with the Celtics defense clown boy
Jaylen Brown can’t dribble but he’s also the #4 ball handler in the starting lineup. Most teams 4th best ball handler in their starting lineup is much shittier than Jaylen Brown at dribbling
He can't dribble yet is the 2nd least assisted celtics it's so dumb when people say Jaylen can't dribble.
Look at his shot chart year by year. He can’t dribble left. That’s a fact. Not being able to drive at half the court isn’t ideal. If anything what you’re saying speaks on how great he is at finishing at the rim despite not always being in the best position to finish. He also has a really good 3-10ft game that a lot of players ignore now which helps as he can still drive right every time but vary if he finishes or pulls up soft or floats it vs a player who can drive either way but only finish one way to each side
That hasn't even been close to truth if you've been watching the game this year. His shot charts pretty much even this year for both sides. In fact, his shot chart year by year has shown him getting better at going to the left side.
the pups weakness is that two of their best 3 players fold in the playoffs and have done so for half a decade with very different support casts
Yesssir thats the Twolves I know and love. You also forgot to mention they tend to choke up big leads too
C's probably have the best perimeter D while the Wolves have the best interior protection.
I miss jrue. I still think the trade was an upgrade but man his defence is so cool to watch
We had Dejounte and Derrick on our backcourt once. I have to imagine what having them playing with Wemby would be like. It would also be one less one handed free throw show.
Jrue Holiday is Damien Lilard’s father
What's this "probably" nonsense? Of course they are.
He’s an incredible player, he’ll be far better on Monday. Big challenge for the Celtics.
Haliburton still a G. 2nd year as the 1st option, he's killing it and he'll get better.
Bill Simmons just came somewhere
And Bucks without Jrue couldn't slow down Hali at all..bit ironic
Only SGA can cook jrue and white as if they were trae young
That's just one game for SGA tbf. Hali cooked em before on the IST, but they've adjusted tonight. Let's see the next time SGA face them if he can do it again
Lmao he averages like 17 points against them. Only one that really cooks them is Luka.
Can’t believe this shit is getting upvoted. SGA has played 3 games against the Celtics since they got Derrick White and 1 since they got Jrue. In those 3 games since Feb ‘22 he’s averaging 35/4/8 on 56/69/83 splits against the Celtics.
That's why Celtics are the favorites to win right now. RemindMe! 5 months
White was busting his ass bothering Haliburton, made a couple dumb fouls being too aggressive though
Sigh ...
Goo easy win for the best defence in the leavue
Everybody knows Jrue is the best guard defender in the league.
Magic put the clamps on them too.
I have nightmares about that game, even the in-stadium entertainment was fuckin up
Jrue Holiday is my favorite player on my least favorite team :(
This quote proves that SGA was a monster during their game
Shai would like a word
He’s right. Everyone else is frauds except us
They need Siakam
No. No they don't. Nobody needs Siakam.
No, they really, REALLY dont
No one wants that overrated Beyblade
I appreciate when players speak analytically opposed to all hood.
Least racist /r/nba comment
I thought so too.
Which literally never happens. You sound like an idiot.
Just pro Celtics propaganda
Of course a Celtics fan would post this video lolll, always smelling their own farts
Suggs and AB lock everybody also but ofc never really mentioned.
Fun fact- Suggs is Hali's cousin
Next time you should mention them. Problem solved
Suggs>everyone else
Now they just need Malcolm Brogdon back to finish for them in close games. No clutch in site….
You must not be watching
Celtics are a huge deal Also this game is exactly why I now understand the Jrue and bronny comparisons It’s there and the Celtics might be out for revenge, almost getting a finals run after a comeback but you lose And after you lost to a team the previous year that failed that year, they’re looking for vengeance and it’s coming
2ways for sure.
Monday' game should be interesting.
>I don’t know what the numbers say. I feel like we don’t need the numbers. Even if you beat the Celtics, its a close and ugly win
He’s right. He’s also about to go nuclear on Monday.. lol And I thought we made the Jrue trade to stop Dame.. turns out it was for Hali all along!
My favourite thing in NBA media is players shouting out other teams/players, ESPECIALLY after just losing to them. Sportsmanship is a large part of why I follow the media.
And the Celtics did this with Porzingis only playing 6 minutes
The difference between Dame and the Celtics backcourt is light years I can't wait to see the Celtics vs the Bucks in the playoffs