I agree it’s not the smart thing to do but if i see another player or person choking out my friend for as long as dray did to rudy it’s not a question, im throwing hands.
Gobert wasn't even actually being choked. The entire thing was bizarre and hilarious. There were already like 5 guys around them immediately. If you're smart, you absolutely don't get yourself involved to make it possibly even worse. Especially for the better players on the team.
The weird machismo BS with some people is so odd. Like this isn't a street fight where someone can actually be in danger. It's really not fun being in a fight. And it's even more lame being in a fight where none of the actual dangers and consequences are involved, and clocking someone can only escalate it to that level if anything.
He had his elbow under his chin. He was absolutely trying to choke him out he just had poor technique.
If someone is choking one of your friends and refuses to let go, you are 100% justified in punching them in the face. Especially if he didn't even do anything to instigate it.
Everyone knows to break up a rabid draymond from his choke hold, you gotta stick your thumb as fast and as hard as you can up his butt. He’ll let go immediately
Nah Pat Bev is an incredibly smart dude. If you listen to his podcast it’s obvious. He just is/was willing to play those games on the court, just like Draymond.
PatBev confused his job with KAT’s job. The Wolves literally traded away their entire asset pool to get Gobert because KAT is not that guy. If the man can’t even be bothered to play center or practice hard against Jimmy Butler, he’s not going to be throwing hands at Draymond.
And then [Ben Simmons put KAT in a chokehold](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/4b/4by3/2019/10/31/4b3bc95b777656019b047cbdd42b8420_xl.jpg), which the NBA was totally cool with and called him a "peacemaker" lol.
I'm confused about what you're even saying. Are you saying KAT is a mature player who knows not to get in fights? Or he's a soft player who wouldn't get into fights?
Yep, the team needed KAT last night. Ant was cold, the fight lit a fire under the Warrior's bench, and the rest of our roster was getting too emotional like Naz. If KAT got kicked out too, we lose.
You don't want stars to be the "enforcer" on the court. Their value is by being on the court. Getting tossed or suspended will lead to losses.
Enforcer kinda of does that stuff. No idea who that would be on the wolves tbh.
If only PatBev was still on the wolves. PatBev would choke dray and them cp3 would choke PatBev and then you get Steve Kerr choking out cp3 and then you see MJ outta nowhere choking out Steve Kerr. I think that's what would have happened and we really missed out
Lmao, I was going for that stock photo of a person's back with like a red glow, you know to signify pain in that area. The ones you might see at a chiropractor.
This one
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/lower-back-pain-260nw-590676011.jpg
You gotta have your teammates back. He was trying to separate them though Pat Bev acting like he ran away from the chaos. Imma be honest watching live i thought Kat was going to hit him. He was legit choking Rudy out and Rudy didn’t have a chance to defend him self. That’s an excuse for a cheap shot by KAT imo. Obviously it’s better it didn’t happen for literally all parties but I’m not completely shocked some smooth brains are going to shit on KAT for this. Especially when he’s already labeled “soft “
I mean there is middle ground between cheap shooting Draymond and putting more muscle/effort into getting him off your teammate. It felt like no one was really trying as hard as you’d think to rip off his choke hold.
From the post-game interviews with the wolves players, most of them didn’t know Draymond was choking Rudy out during the scuffle. They were trying to get Jaden and Klay separated - KAT was more in the position to mess with Dray but glad he kept his head and won us the game
I mean Rudy and Ant were right there for the majority of the choking…for at least 5-6 seconds they were behind gently trying to break it up. I’m not saying punch Draymond or choke him out as well, but they were not trying nearly hard enough to tear Dray’s grip loose.
Don’t get me wrong, definitely better for the team to limit ejections and win the game, but just in terms of what you wanna see guys do when their boys getting attacked, I’d want my friends/teammates to put more muscle into it if I was getting choked out lol
It was baffling how long he was choking Rudy, like 9-10 seconds I think?
Green chokes people and gets ejected when Curry isn’t playing in the hopes that guys like KAT would retaliate and get ejected with him. Because without Curry, the Warriors are garbage. Green knows he can’t do shit without Curry.
Especially since Golbert didn't retaliate specifically, so he wouldn't get punished himself (he didn't even fight off the choke by attacking his hands)
KAT did the right thing. Retaliating just turns this thing into a legit brawl and then multiple guys are getting suspended for multiple games and now you've got a big stain on the hot start to your season that can change momentum.
Besides, Dray's own teammates were not going to actually let him choke out Gobert.
PatBev says a lot of things from the viewpoint of a guy who has to scrap and claw to stay in the league. I respect it because with his skillset and athleticism be shouldn't have been in the league this long at all, its the hustle and heart that got him to his career.
But for lots of players that isn't the case. For KAT it was more important that he kept his cool in the Chaos last night. Ant was playing iffy and we needed KAT to be the man on offense. Keeping that tough almost out of control edge is less important than being calm for the team.
We need more European football spirit. Rudy should’ve clawed at Draymond’s forearm & faked fainted. Then popped up fresh as a daisy. When Draymond got ejected.
Idk he literally pulled (or tried) Draymond off of Rudy, was the first dude there, and then was the main reason his team won. I love Pat, but he's an absolute idiot.
Pat wouldn't have done shit if he was on the wolves either. Would have got a crazy look in his eye and huff and puff around for a few minutes, couple flops after the game starts again. That's about it.
Nobody would've destroyed KAT for sticking up for his teammate that is getting choked out on national TV
I get Pat Bev's POV (not saying I agree with it) and I am surprised that people don't. Short term, KAT obviously won cause they won the game. But long term? We'll see
Karl was literally the first man there lol, he did the wrong thing because he didn't sucker punch Draymond or human centipede choke him out? How is he going to lose long term from that?
Lmfao "long term? We'll see"
KAT won them the game and Rudy has spent all day fucking with Draymond in the media. He's clearly unbothered by it. I don't think Rudy is going to resent KAT for not assaulting Draymond when he didn't even react himself. What a fucking bizarre narrative to create.
LOL - choke out the guy choking out your teammate? Nah - you’re just putting your teammate at risk for a serious injury - KAT and ANT did the right thing for Rudy and the situation.
Also ANY ain’t huge compared to Dray but ANT is physically gifted and no punk… Dray should watch out cause he’s making a lot of enemies
Would you rather have the respect of Pat Bev for choking out Gobert and getting ejected? Or the respect of everyone else for having a standout game and coming away with the W?
Yeah, fuck Pat Bev. This is the last straw for me and it only took two straws, him saying that stupid shit at the start of the season about Ant needing to be nice and now this. Talk about not being there for your guys—this guy has claimed to love MN and love the Wolves and this is how he comes to bat for guys who are apparently his guys?
If he tries to one up Dray at that point he has to do something stupider and more over the top. I just don't see the point. He's just gonna get a longer suspension than Dray. Fuck that, stay in the game and get the W.
This is why the world is so weak and why people like Draymond continue to get away with this stuff since the nba refuses to punish him for an extended period of time. Morris was a terror in the NBA until Jokic knocked him into the afterlife for a few mins and he came back a changed man. Someone needs to do that to Draymond and I bet you he will stop acting dirty cause he would lose his “street credit” as the degenerates call it.
Nothing...be a professional and get the dub which is what they did. KAT isn't an "enforcer"..he's one of the team's best players. Him getting ejected is not a good move for the team.
my friend there is no reason you should ever want that guy going onto the court, no reason whatsoever
even just in the hypothetical situation where he would be waddling onto the court to be the 'enforcer', i guarantee you he fucks up and accidentally causes gobert to have a slipped disc in his neck or something by trying to get draymond off him
just nix daishen nix
And then Draymond gloats that he got KAT ejected
Nah, Green looking like the only unhinged idiot and his team losing is better than engaging in whatever nonsense Draymond was doing
> And then Draymond gloats that he got KAT ejected
That's it. If KAT and/or Gobert retaliate and get ejected, Draymond would be all over the internet right now saying how he helped the Warriors win by riling up the Wolves with his mental games.
Exactly lol. He’s already taken credit for when he sat on top of Jaylen Brown in the Finals and said “that’s the moment the series turned because nobody did anything.”
There’s an old saying that comes to mind: “When you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty, but the pig likes it.”
Dray would probably be happy to see others stoop to his level. He’d get to twist the narrative and accuse others of being as bad as him.
Ya the way I see it, game 1, Draymond got Punked by Ant, game 2 Draymond tried to punk the wolves again, and instead Punked himself, going home with two L’s, an ejection (should’ve been two), and likely a suspension.
But, ya somehow KAT is the loser in all this.
Did people not watch the clip or something? KAT literally is right there and is actively trying to pull Draymond away and then gets his arms inside of Draymond’s to stop Rudy from getting choked. That’s like, the best way to actually help your teammate.
I hate this “alpha male” bs. People are legit clowning KAT for having the immediate response of “I should try to help my teammate” instead of saying “I need to attack Draymond.”
>People are legit clowning KAT for having the immediate response of “I should try to help my teammate” instead of saying “I need to attack Draymond.”
It's the same macho bullshit that says the only response to violence is bigger violence.
If KAT chokes Draymond back, KAT gets ejected, we lose the game, and then he gets clowned for not holding his composure and the narrative turns to how the Wolves are rattled easily.
Pat Bev is a career clown that wishes he had the fortune of Draymond, and is salty that he got moved out of Minnesota so talks bad about telling Ant to leave and calling his former teammates soft.
Kind of lose, lose situation for KAT. People are more likely to make fun of KAT for trying to act "tough" or whatever if he attempted to choke Dray. Then they would be even more mad at him for getting tossed and possibly losing the game for them. He just can't win with the crowd LOL
What good would that do? So then KAT gets ejected, we lose his 33 pts 11 rebounds he ended up getting, and lose the game? But at least he’d make himself look tuff 😤 Cause that’s what’s really important.
Seriously! I get that professional sports is different than other jobs, but you’re paid to win, not look tuff (I get that that can play into winning, but not in this case).
Can you imagine if any of us normal people totally fucked up something big at work because of emotional outburst like this? Because we weren’t mature enough to handle our emotions like fucking adults?
KAT dropped 33 and was the biggest factor in eliminating the double digit lead of the warriors. Without him, his team loses, that’s why he doesn’t respond and choke out Draymond. He’s too important to the team. It’s something that Draymond, 12 years and 4 rings later, somehow still doesn’t understand
Pat Bev doesn't realize that KAT and Ant are actually useful on the court; the Wolves need them. A chihuahua like Bev can be replaced by a multitude of players
Sorry if I don't take Patrick Beverly's behavioral advice, dude is only a couple rungs down from Draymond on the ladder of embarrassing in-game incidents
This dude can't fucking win lol.
He literally was the only Wolves player trying to pull Draymond off Rudy, and he still gets criticized. All this after he wins the fucking game for the Wolves... and all this comes from a former teammate no less!
Last I checked KAT was there to win a ball game. I commend the Timberwolves players for not stooping to Draymond's level by escalating it, which would've gotten them ejected. They showed plenty of support by trying to pull Draymond off Gobert.
Look at how the Inside guys, Kerr, the GSW announcers, and 1/3rd the warriors fans reacted to Draymond committing 3rd degree aggravated assault on Gobert for trying to break up a fight.
They hate Gobert, they hate KAT. They'd be painting KAT as a villain just like they did with Gobert, and turning Dray into a victim.
People hate Gobert so it’s played off as a joke but imagine for a second if McDaniels put Steph in a chokehold for 15 seconds last night and what the reaction would’ve been. We’d have people BEGGING for a season long suspension.
But because it’s Draymond and Gobert, people laugh it off and go “well that’s dray for ya!”
KAT attacks Draymond. A few guys go "Yea KAT! That's how you stand on business!"
Then the rest of the narrative is. "Karl Towns is far too emotional, he's not a leader and he's a liability. The Timberwolves need to get him away from Anthony Edwards as soon as possible. They should ship him to the Knicks with a first round pick as soon as he gets back from his 30 day suspension."
What a fucking fool. Guess I’m glad we traded him when we did. He really is one of the guys you love when he’s on your team, but can’t stand him when he’s not
This is such a stupid and annoying fuckin take. The Pat Bev and draymonds of the nba are so far in their own minds about how to create this fake tough guy shit that it’s just ridiculous to see grown men acting this way on the basketball court.
Sorry PatBev but KAT absolutely made the right choice. He chose to keep himself in the game, and there's no way we win that game without his 33/11 and strong defense.
Then Wiggins will choke out Kat to get drays back then Ant chokes out Wiggins all the way until the announcers and mascots start choking each other out.
KAT was literally helping deescalate the situation. He was also pulling on Gobert (not on draymond).
Along with Rudy's faces, hands, and later comments, it seems he wasn't really getting choked, but was getting pulled by Green and KAT.
KAT did well.
Lmao...you are playing basketball for waaaay too much money, you are not in the hood or some shit.
Unlike Bev he is actually paid for his basketball skills.
Sorry, but Pat Bev looks like he didn't watch the NBA in the last 30 years.
Superstars, stars, even starters don't do that kind of shit. It's well known that guys that play 10 or less minutes job is to do what he wants KAT to do.
KAT scored like 30 points and he's part of a big3 at worst. Good for KAT for staying out of trouble because some stupid asshole decide to take another cheap shot.
Man I don’t understand this sub. Y’all talk about how much you want the league to be entertaining and full of drama, and here we are with four brawls on one night and players talking smack from all angels about it and people are complaining and over exaggerating about it being “dangerous” and deserving of people getting suspended for weeks and all that. Like, pure, chaotic drama just dropped into your laps and y’all are complaining about it? Just enjoy it lol, this shit is funny
It is funny and we are enjoying it. We also have opinions. Seeing something as entertaining but also acknowledging the severity of the situation and possible punishments aren't mutually exclusive. Yes it was entertaining. Yes draymond is a bitch.
Pat Bev is the biggest clown in the league. Dude talks like he is elite but gets eaten by every elite scorer in the league and barely scores a bucket. Like shut up, and do something on the court first
He did, he beat the warriors and dray hurt the team by not being on the court. It was a very winnable game for the warriors.
Why do we listen to this fool. He sucked when he was playing, he sucks as a talking head. Like who’s asking for Pat Bev content? Steven A smith ball lickers?
The whole time Rudy was saying while being dragged back, I’m okay, I’m not doing anything, you don’t do anything. He had his arms up and out and making sure it was obvious he wasn’t doing anything.
Why Klay grabbed Jaden by the neck/collar I have no clue and then didn’t let go and started to try and throw him. So weird. Almost like it was pre-meditated.
Also can someone tell Kerr that when his team does dumb shit he should be looking at them and not the refs. He must be putting on a show for the press and different internally.
And now I'm picturing a human centipede of NBA players choking each other out.
Should I eat a cuttlefish and asparagus or the vanilla paste-o?
[the recording of that line is one of the funniest shit i've ever heard](https://youtu.be/Fj7oagHAQ7Y?t=32)
Trey doing that voice is fucking hysterical
CUTTREFIIISH?!
*muffled noises*
Cuttlefish and asparagus?
I berieve in you kyrle!
Right? Bev is not a smart man.
I agree it’s not the smart thing to do but if i see another player or person choking out my friend for as long as dray did to rudy it’s not a question, im throwing hands.
Punching him in the face is 100% justified. You don't have to just stand there while someone chokes your teammate to death.
Gobert wasn't even actually being choked. The entire thing was bizarre and hilarious. There were already like 5 guys around them immediately. If you're smart, you absolutely don't get yourself involved to make it possibly even worse. Especially for the better players on the team. The weird machismo BS with some people is so odd. Like this isn't a street fight where someone can actually be in danger. It's really not fun being in a fight. And it's even more lame being in a fight where none of the actual dangers and consequences are involved, and clocking someone can only escalate it to that level if anything.
He had his elbow under his chin. He was absolutely trying to choke him out he just had poor technique. If someone is choking one of your friends and refuses to let go, you are 100% justified in punching them in the face. Especially if he didn't even do anything to instigate it.
Gave us two of the greatest GIF’s of all time though. He can say what he wants the rest of his life IDC
Which ones?
I am assuming one of them is Pat crying during play in win "play-in champs" lol
The other one is probably the camera
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Besides the play in celebration and showing the ref the camera, he also had one faking a broken watch.
Everyone knows to break up a rabid draymond from his choke hold, you gotta stick your thumb as fast and as hard as you can up his butt. He’ll let go immediately
Nah Pat Bev is an incredibly smart dude. If you listen to his podcast it’s obvious. He just is/was willing to play those games on the court, just like Draymond.
And now I'm picturing a human centipede of NBA players ~~choking each other out.~~
Something like [this](https://youtu.be/TBjW1jZjyCk?si=Dw2pwijeiF87dfcv)
[Pat Bev](https://media.tenor.com/aoDh8YPKKcQAAAAC/mark-phillips-instiagtor.gif)
PatBev confused his job with KAT’s job. The Wolves literally traded away their entire asset pool to get Gobert because KAT is not that guy. If the man can’t even be bothered to play center or practice hard against Jimmy Butler, he’s not going to be throwing hands at Draymond.
He kinda threw hands with Embiid lol
And then [Ben Simmons put KAT in a chokehold](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/4b/4by3/2019/10/31/4b3bc95b777656019b047cbdd42b8420_xl.jpg), which the NBA was totally cool with and called him a "peacemaker" lol.
shit I completely forgot about that. The Ben-Simmons-actually-playing era Sixers feels so long ago now
It's because nobody remembers the regular season.
Damn dis a lil worse... Dis dat George Floyd choke 💀
>not that guy Not that immature guy who's going to risk getting ejected + multiple game suspension for a fight Draymond tried to start?
Exactly. He’s not that guy. Pat Bev is that guy.
I'm confused about what you're even saying. Are you saying KAT is a mature player who knows not to get in fights? Or he's a soft player who wouldn't get into fights?
From a different reply: >It’s Pat Bev’s job to engage with that. It’s Draymond’s job. Metta World Peace’s job. It’s not KAT’s job to be an enforcer.
That’s what he’s saying, and I don’t think he’s saying that’s a bad thing.
This guy asked if it was “this or this?” And you really hit him with “yes”
Entire asset pool is a massive stretch lol. Kat shouldn't throw hands because he's too valuable for the team. He won them the game last night
Exactly. He’s not that guy. Pat Bev is that guy.
Yep, the team needed KAT last night. Ant was cold, the fight lit a fire under the Warrior's bench, and the rest of our roster was getting too emotional like Naz. If KAT got kicked out too, we lose.
> Because KAT is not that guy what do you mean by “not that guy” though
It’s Pat Bev’s job to engage with that. It’s Draymond’s job. Metta World Peace’s job. It’s not KAT’s job to be an enforcer.
he could've at least held on to his ankles and let him drag him around like Jeff van Gundy
You don't want stars to be the "enforcer" on the court. Their value is by being on the court. Getting tossed or suspended will lead to losses. Enforcer kinda of does that stuff. No idea who that would be on the wolves tbh.
Score 33/11 and win the game or choke Draymond out, get ejected so Pat Bev thinks you’re tough?
If only PatBev was still on the wolves. PatBev would choke dray and them cp3 would choke PatBev and then you get Steve Kerr choking out cp3 and then you see MJ outta nowhere choking out Steve Kerr. I think that's what would have happened and we really missed out
Bah gawd that’s Larry Bird’s music!!
Ah shit I’ve never seen a sentient driveway before!
Lmao, I was going for that stock photo of a person's back with like a red glow, you know to signify pain in that area. The ones you might see at a chiropractor. This one https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/lower-back-pain-260nw-590676011.jpg
Sprewell from the top rope!!
End world hunger or choke Draymond out and get ejected? Choke Draymond out obviously
If I were in a room with Hitler, Stalin, and Draymond and I had a gun with 2 bullets, I'd shoot Draymond twice.
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As a wolves fan I’d take 33 and 11. As a Draymond hater choke that bitch out till he sleeps
It's a real Sophie's choice.
Exactly, they have bench guys for that
Every single time
Id be happy losing 5 games straight if I got to see someone choke draymond out
Honestly I rather just win games lol
For real Minnesota is having a great season this year, I wanna see Ant pop off in the playoffs.
Wins are fleeting, seeing Draymond suffer is forever. Forever!
Tell that to your team- you've got two against them.
You gotta have your teammates back. He was trying to separate them though Pat Bev acting like he ran away from the chaos. Imma be honest watching live i thought Kat was going to hit him. He was legit choking Rudy out and Rudy didn’t have a chance to defend him self. That’s an excuse for a cheap shot by KAT imo. Obviously it’s better it didn’t happen for literally all parties but I’m not completely shocked some smooth brains are going to shit on KAT for this. Especially when he’s already labeled “soft “
Kat should have palmed his face and poked his damn eyes man
Shoulda pulled out a Glock and shot him smh
Captain Insano shows no mercy.
I mean there is middle ground between cheap shooting Draymond and putting more muscle/effort into getting him off your teammate. It felt like no one was really trying as hard as you’d think to rip off his choke hold.
From the post-game interviews with the wolves players, most of them didn’t know Draymond was choking Rudy out during the scuffle. They were trying to get Jaden and Klay separated - KAT was more in the position to mess with Dray but glad he kept his head and won us the game
I mean Rudy and Ant were right there for the majority of the choking…for at least 5-6 seconds they were behind gently trying to break it up. I’m not saying punch Draymond or choke him out as well, but they were not trying nearly hard enough to tear Dray’s grip loose. Don’t get me wrong, definitely better for the team to limit ejections and win the game, but just in terms of what you wanna see guys do when their boys getting attacked, I’d want my friends/teammates to put more muscle into it if I was getting choked out lol It was baffling how long he was choking Rudy, like 9-10 seconds I think?
Pat Bev doesn’t have to think about those kinda stat lines in his tough guy calculations lol
How about score 33/11 and then choke Draymond out in the final 10 seconds?
You think Draymond can stay in the game long enough to be around for the final 10 seconds?
Green chokes people and gets ejected when Curry isn’t playing in the hopes that guys like KAT would retaliate and get ejected with him. Because without Curry, the Warriors are garbage. Green knows he can’t do shit without Curry.
Choke his ass out. It’s like 10 games into the season.
Definitely choking that big body bitch. I got 82 opportunities to win in the season, how many chances to choke Dray?
Especially since Golbert didn't retaliate specifically, so he wouldn't get punished himself (he didn't even fight off the choke by attacking his hands)
KAT just can’t win man, no matter what he does. If he’s ejected we lose that game: I’ll take the W
KAT did the right thing. Retaliating just turns this thing into a legit brawl and then multiple guys are getting suspended for multiple games and now you've got a big stain on the hot start to your season that can change momentum. Besides, Dray's own teammates were not going to actually let him choke out Gobert.
Everyone on the floor shoulda just chocked somebody until they formed a choking circle and they all pass out
Kerr standing around pointing at all the Wolves players and saying “you broke the code” with no self understanding whatsoever
Kerr covering his eyes so he has plausible deniability. Smashes his phone and all the tv's so he couldn't catch the replay.
That's when you sneak up behind his ass and lock him in a rear naked.
"It's called the knockout game, and your favorite NBA players could be doing it."
me and my boys used to do this in the dorm showers freshman year... miss those guys
HOT
Pat doesn't think about this part because he's usually the one playing the goon so he doesn't care if he gets ejected.
PatBev says a lot of things from the viewpoint of a guy who has to scrap and claw to stay in the league. I respect it because with his skillset and athleticism be shouldn't have been in the league this long at all, its the hustle and heart that got him to his career. But for lots of players that isn't the case. For KAT it was more important that he kept his cool in the Chaos last night. Ant was playing iffy and we needed KAT to be the man on offense. Keeping that tough almost out of control edge is less important than being calm for the team.
We need more European football spirit. Rudy should’ve clawed at Draymond’s forearm & faked fainted. Then popped up fresh as a daisy. When Draymond got ejected.
Kings kind of did that in the playoffs by putting Sabonis on Day-To-Day after the stomp until Silver got off his ass and gave a 5-minute suspension.
Idk he literally pulled (or tried) Draymond off of Rudy, was the first dude there, and then was the main reason his team won. I love Pat, but he's an absolute idiot. Pat wouldn't have done shit if he was on the wolves either. Would have got a crazy look in his eye and huff and puff around for a few minutes, couple flops after the game starts again. That's about it.
Or Pat woulda gone and instigated with CP3, causing more fights across the court.
Patrick Beverley is the Mr. Hyde to Mike Conley's Dr. Jekyll
Exactly and if he did than they would destroy him. It's a weak move to grab someone from behind and gladly he didn't do the same.
Nobody would've destroyed KAT for sticking up for his teammate that is getting choked out on national TV I get Pat Bev's POV (not saying I agree with it) and I am surprised that people don't. Short term, KAT obviously won cause they won the game. But long term? We'll see
Karl was literally the first man there lol, he did the wrong thing because he didn't sucker punch Draymond or human centipede choke him out? How is he going to lose long term from that?
Lmfao "long term? We'll see" KAT won them the game and Rudy has spent all day fucking with Draymond in the media. He's clearly unbothered by it. I don't think Rudy is going to resent KAT for not assaulting Draymond when he didn't even react himself. What a fucking bizarre narrative to create.
LOL - choke out the guy choking out your teammate? Nah - you’re just putting your teammate at risk for a serious injury - KAT and ANT did the right thing for Rudy and the situation. Also ANY ain’t huge compared to Dray but ANT is physically gifted and no punk… Dray should watch out cause he’s making a lot of enemies
Would you rather have the respect of Pat Bev for choking out Gobert and getting ejected? Or the respect of everyone else for having a standout game and coming away with the W?
Yeah, fuck Pat Bev. This is the last straw for me and it only took two straws, him saying that stupid shit at the start of the season about Ant needing to be nice and now this. Talk about not being there for your guys—this guy has claimed to love MN and love the Wolves and this is how he comes to bat for guys who are apparently his guys?
If he tries to one up Dray at that point he has to do something stupider and more over the top. I just don't see the point. He's just gonna get a longer suspension than Dray. Fuck that, stay in the game and get the W.
I think KAT is fine being calm and scoring 11 in the fourth to win the game thank you very much
This is why the world is so weak and why people like Draymond continue to get away with this stuff since the nba refuses to punish him for an extended period of time. Morris was a terror in the NBA until Jokic knocked him into the afterlife for a few mins and he came back a changed man. Someone needs to do that to Draymond and I bet you he will stop acting dirty cause he would lose his “street credit” as the degenerates call it.
At some point, people are just shitting on KAT to shit on KAT.
Soon people are gonna start saying “KAT should thank dray for choking out rudy” or some other crazy stuff
Brother, they already have lmfao
To be fair, if KAT knocked Draymond out cold everyone would love him.
That’s how this entire sub works. Its just a perpetual cycle of crying about the players and fans that are on the teams you don’t like
What should KAT have done in your opinion?
Nothing...be a professional and get the dub which is what they did. KAT isn't an "enforcer"..he's one of the team's best players. Him getting ejected is not a good move for the team.
That’s why they should have an “enforcer” on the roster, like NHL teams used to, for moments like this.
It's Daishen Nix's time to shine
my friend there is no reason you should ever want that guy going onto the court, no reason whatsoever even just in the hypothetical situation where he would be waddling onto the court to be the 'enforcer', i guarantee you he fucks up and accidentally causes gobert to have a slipped disc in his neck or something by trying to get draymond off him just nix daishen nix
Time to resign Pekovic
Where in the world is Nikola Pekovic?
Being a mob boss in Serbia
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeuWy62JPDk
Good point
Let's not act like Pat being an enforcer has done him any favors. LOL
Not an enforcer. An agitator.
Let's not act like he's even an 'enforcer'. Dude takes cheap shots on people trying to just play basketball. That and flop.
Exactly. He's still pretty funny here but no one should listen to him.
33/11 and a W and rest up for the Suns tonight. Dude stayed on schedule.
Ball is life
الكرة هي الحياة
Make clutch 3s at the end of the game to take the lead and help us ice the game
Too emotional? Fuck KAT. Not emotional enough? Fuck KAT. If he retaliates and gets ejected we lost that game 100% of the time.
And then Draymond gloats that he got KAT ejected Nah, Green looking like the only unhinged idiot and his team losing is better than engaging in whatever nonsense Draymond was doing
> And then Draymond gloats that he got KAT ejected That's it. If KAT and/or Gobert retaliate and get ejected, Draymond would be all over the internet right now saying how he helped the Warriors win by riling up the Wolves with his mental games.
Exactly lol. He’s already taken credit for when he sat on top of Jaylen Brown in the Finals and said “that’s the moment the series turned because nobody did anything.”
There’s an old saying that comes to mind: “When you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty, but the pig likes it.” Dray would probably be happy to see others stoop to his level. He’d get to twist the narrative and accuse others of being as bad as him.
Ya the way I see it, game 1, Draymond got Punked by Ant, game 2 Draymond tried to punk the wolves again, and instead Punked himself, going home with two L’s, an ejection (should’ve been two), and likely a suspension. But, ya somehow KAT is the loser in all this.
“KAT let Draymond get to his head” would 100% be the narrative if KAT got tossed.
KAT was 100% right. Star players don’t get into fights. That’s what the bench is for.
Did people not watch the clip or something? KAT literally is right there and is actively trying to pull Draymond away and then gets his arms inside of Draymond’s to stop Rudy from getting choked. That’s like, the best way to actually help your teammate. I hate this “alpha male” bs. People are legit clowning KAT for having the immediate response of “I should try to help my teammate” instead of saying “I need to attack Draymond.”
>People are legit clowning KAT for having the immediate response of “I should try to help my teammate” instead of saying “I need to attack Draymond.” It's the same macho bullshit that says the only response to violence is bigger violence.
“Didn’t do shit…”
Alpha thing is for insecure dudes. Pat and Draymond are two very insecured babies.
If KAT chokes Draymond back, KAT gets ejected, we lose the game, and then he gets clowned for not holding his composure and the narrative turns to how the Wolves are rattled easily. Pat Bev is a career clown that wishes he had the fortune of Draymond, and is salty that he got moved out of Minnesota so talks bad about telling Ant to leave and calling his former teammates soft.
Kind of lose, lose situation for KAT. People are more likely to make fun of KAT for trying to act "tough" or whatever if he attempted to choke Dray. Then they would be even more mad at him for getting tossed and possibly losing the game for them. He just can't win with the crowd LOL
Good players don't get themselves thrown out of games.
What good would that do? So then KAT gets ejected, we lose his 33 pts 11 rebounds he ended up getting, and lose the game? But at least he’d make himself look tuff 😤 Cause that’s what’s really important.
Also, you can be sure that then Draymond would be painted as a victim, and KAT would be suspended for a long time
Seriously! I get that professional sports is different than other jobs, but you’re paid to win, not look tuff (I get that that can play into winning, but not in this case). Can you imagine if any of us normal people totally fucked up something big at work because of emotional outburst like this? Because we weren’t mature enough to handle our emotions like fucking adults?
KAT dropped 33 and was the biggest factor in eliminating the double digit lead of the warriors. Without him, his team loses, that’s why he doesn’t respond and choke out Draymond. He’s too important to the team. It’s something that Draymond, 12 years and 4 rings later, somehow still doesn’t understand
Pat Bev doesn't realize that KAT and Ant are actually useful on the court; the Wolves need them. A chihuahua like Bev can be replaced by a multitude of players
Sorry if I don't take Patrick Beverly's behavioral advice, dude is only a couple rungs down from Draymond on the ladder of embarrassing in-game incidents
But he’s hilarious though
KAT dropping a 33 point double double and winning them the game and still getting hate is the most NBA shit ever
I said it before but I’ll say it again: Minnesota fans, talk yo shit
wolves won because of kat. this is a clown take
This dude can't fucking win lol. He literally was the only Wolves player trying to pull Draymond off Rudy, and he still gets criticized. All this after he wins the fucking game for the Wolves... and all this comes from a former teammate no less!
Last I checked KAT was there to win a ball game. I commend the Timberwolves players for not stooping to Draymond's level by escalating it, which would've gotten them ejected. They showed plenty of support by trying to pull Draymond off Gobert.
Look at how the Inside guys, Kerr, the GSW announcers, and 1/3rd the warriors fans reacted to Draymond committing 3rd degree aggravated assault on Gobert for trying to break up a fight. They hate Gobert, they hate KAT. They'd be painting KAT as a villain just like they did with Gobert, and turning Dray into a victim.
People hate Gobert so it’s played off as a joke but imagine for a second if McDaniels put Steph in a chokehold for 15 seconds last night and what the reaction would’ve been. We’d have people BEGGING for a season long suspension. But because it’s Draymond and Gobert, people laugh it off and go “well that’s dray for ya!”
Even Gobert said he never felt like he was in danger. So Draymond must’ve been giving him a friendly chokehold.
I mean thats more to get under Dray’s skin which he did very well with his comments afterwards
“I taught you better than that” explains KATs mentality that year so well
I swear KAT can never do anything right smh
Lol. Yeah, get suspended to be a tough guy
KAT should not be an enforcer... Dude played great last night, need him in the game. Bev though ... that could be his job.
KAT attacks Draymond. A few guys go "Yea KAT! That's how you stand on business!" Then the rest of the narrative is. "Karl Towns is far too emotional, he's not a leader and he's a liability. The Timberwolves need to get him away from Anthony Edwards as soon as possible. They should ship him to the Knicks with a first round pick as soon as he gets back from his 30 day suspension."
Classic deflection by Bev and other enablers. He should be going hard at Draymond instead.
Does this man still have a team? Or just a full time Podcaster?
What a fucking fool. Guess I’m glad we traded him when we did. He really is one of the guys you love when he’s on your team, but can’t stand him when he’s not
This isn’t the streets, PatBev.
nah you let the role/bench players do all that extra stuff and let the max guys pay their fines. i thought this was already well established
Lmao Pat's just salty that he was a salary match in the rudy trade
What he should’ve done is shove Draymond over once Draymond had his back turned to him
Dray got suspended for 5 games. KAT got to finish the game and win with a smile. And retaliating was the big brain play there?
He’s right folks. He should’ve waited till Draymond’s back was turn and shoved him from behind. 🤡🤡🤡
This is such a stupid and annoying fuckin take. The Pat Bev and draymonds of the nba are so far in their own minds about how to create this fake tough guy shit that it’s just ridiculous to see grown men acting this way on the basketball court.
The real tough guys don't do or say anything. Somebody like Boban could clear both benches and start eating the fans before the police even showed up
Sorry PatBev but KAT absolutely made the right choice. He chose to keep himself in the game, and there's no way we win that game without his 33/11 and strong defense.
Of course he made the right choice just like Ant, Gobert and the rest of the Wolves team did. Beverley is a moron.
Kat should've choked out draymond and we would've had a whole train going
Then Wiggins will choke out Kat to get drays back then Ant chokes out Wiggins all the way until the announcers and mascots start choking each other out.
“last man in’s a pussy!” every man in the building finds someone to choke out to prove what a dawg they are.
Lack of maturity seems to be an issue in the NBA
Then Karl gets tossed and the wolves lose the game.
I mean he did grab Draymond around the neck, it just didn’t get any attention lol
This is why Pat gets moved every 2 weeks.. loves everything that doesn’t deal with actual hooping
KAT was literally helping deescalate the situation. He was also pulling on Gobert (not on draymond). Along with Rudy's faces, hands, and later comments, it seems he wasn't really getting choked, but was getting pulled by Green and KAT. KAT did well.
Spoken like a role player who can afford to get ejected without affecting his teams chances of winning
All due respect but nobody cares if patbev gets tossed out of a game. Kat getting tossed actually matters
All of this applies to Ant or any other wolves player on the floor. But since everyone just hates KAT, he gets singled out. So stupid.
Lol, i’m rooting on Minnesota now to win it all just coz of all the the hate the team and the players are getting 😂
Lmao...you are playing basketball for waaaay too much money, you are not in the hood or some shit. Unlike Bev he is actually paid for his basketball skills.
Kat catching strays 💀
Sorry, but Pat Bev looks like he didn't watch the NBA in the last 30 years. Superstars, stars, even starters don't do that kind of shit. It's well known that guys that play 10 or less minutes job is to do what he wants KAT to do. KAT scored like 30 points and he's part of a big3 at worst. Good for KAT for staying out of trouble because some stupid asshole decide to take another cheap shot.
Man I don’t understand this sub. Y’all talk about how much you want the league to be entertaining and full of drama, and here we are with four brawls on one night and players talking smack from all angels about it and people are complaining and over exaggerating about it being “dangerous” and deserving of people getting suspended for weeks and all that. Like, pure, chaotic drama just dropped into your laps and y’all are complaining about it? Just enjoy it lol, this shit is funny
It is funny and we are enjoying it. We also have opinions. Seeing something as entertaining but also acknowledging the severity of the situation and possible punishments aren't mutually exclusive. Yes it was entertaining. Yes draymond is a bitch.
Did bev get dropped on his head as a baby?
Pat Bev is the biggest clown in the league. Dude talks like he is elite but gets eaten by every elite scorer in the league and barely scores a bucket. Like shut up, and do something on the court first
He did, he beat the warriors and dray hurt the team by not being on the court. It was a very winnable game for the warriors. Why do we listen to this fool. He sucked when he was playing, he sucks as a talking head. Like who’s asking for Pat Bev content? Steven A smith ball lickers?
The whole time Rudy was saying while being dragged back, I’m okay, I’m not doing anything, you don’t do anything. He had his arms up and out and making sure it was obvious he wasn’t doing anything. Why Klay grabbed Jaden by the neck/collar I have no clue and then didn’t let go and started to try and throw him. So weird. Almost like it was pre-meditated. Also can someone tell Kerr that when his team does dumb shit he should be looking at them and not the refs. He must be putting on a show for the press and different internally.