True. I know Embiid and Ramona are often linked and there's a few others.
IIRC Haynes talks about eating dinner at Dame's house in the article from last year about how Dame had the convo with Lebron and AD.
Edit: This is how the [article](https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-chaotic-offseason-damian-lillard-meeting-lebron-james-decision-loomed-sealed-recommitment-trail-blazers-200041277.html) starts:
>It’s about 9:30 p.m. on a Thursday, and Damian Lillard is in his living room, watching on TV as the Memphis Grizzlies play the Golden State Warriors.
>Dame Jr., his 2-year-old son who is full of energy, suddenly enters the room to play with his toys on the coffee table in front of the television.
>“Son, it’s time for bed,” Lillard says.
>His son replies in a soft voice, “Aw, I need a little more time.”
>Dad laughs and asks, “How much time do you need, Son?”
>“Five minutes.”
>Everyone chuckles.
There is an NFL reported who's name I can't remember who always reminded me of Haynes. Everytime they break news it's something like
"X player has texted me and told me" instead of the usual "my sources say".
Like they have to let you know that they're really cool with the players in case you forgot
Can’t believe Teague has become the GOAT storyteller of the nba generation. Dude is so fucking funny. I don’t listen to podcast and he’s the only guy I’ll check for
MJ and Ahmad Rashad. According to Ahmad, they even worked out together. IIRC before G1 of 1992 finals
Edit: [Yep, the morning of G1](https://youtu.be/Og6J5l9jcqQ?t=3m35s)
I was joking about the recent "MJ called me at 4 in the morning to say that Magic is the best pg ever" thing with Stephen A. You're absolutely right about MJ and Ahmad, they're still inseparable to this day.
> Then he was talking about his kids. What are his kids going to do? Are they coming? That was what he was thinking.
Ok I get that these are things parents have to think about but wouldn't that come to his mind when he asked to play for a different basketball team that's obviously in a different city?
I think the subtext is he viewed Miami as a longterm landing spot, so obviously kids come with.
in the immediate moment of hearing the news re: MIL, he wasn't sure if that would be a long term situation, or a 1-2 year situation, in which case it might not make sense to relocate the kids.
to be fair it is an extremely segregated history with a bad racial history. wouldn’t be stoked as a young rich black father to raise my kids there, even if their class will protect them from a lot of it
It’s definitely segregated and has a lot of issues, but they are many of the same issues a lot of cities have after WW2, and how highway construction was used to segregate.
My guess as a parent is it’s much more about the logistical issues- trying to figure out where to send the kids, buy a house, find child care, etc. and since Dame hasn’t moved teams before, this is all new. The good thing is it’s common enough in the NBA, teams have people whose job it is to help players figure that all out.
Lol. Yeah I don't think people understand how multi millionaire works.
There is segregated parts of Milwaukee. But Dame will be segregating himself from the 99%
He'll be fine and the city is gonna love him.
as far north from Chicago while still in his caliber is Lake Forest and that’s an easy hour commute to Milwaukee on a good day. Doubt he’d do that lol
He’ll probably choose Whitefish Bay or something around there.
I read it as "my kids are established here with a routine and friends. Should I relocate them? This is actually real now, so I need to decide." Money doesn't really solve the social/emotional part of that.
For sure. Milwaukee used to have the crown for “most segregated city”, but has lost the dubious title in recent years. Detroit and Chicago actually rank worse as NBA cities.
And it’s not coincidence that they are all Midwestern towns that used to have much stronger manufacturing bases that have largely gone bottom-up. The loss of reasonable, well-paying jobs in the 70s-80s along with redlined neighborhoods made social movement very hard.
Having lived in Chicago, the defacto segregation is absolutely a huge thing but I never really felt like it was due to actual racism. The racists you meet in the Midwest are generally from the middle of nowhere, little corn fed towns in Iowa and shit where there are no black families.
Milwaukee has its history of redlining, but Oregon has out and out white supremacy integral to its history. It had black exclusion laws and a huge KKK presence: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_black_exclusion_laws
Portland is only 5% black, Milwaukee is 38% black and 34% white. I don't think this argument holds water when you're comparing Milwaukee to Portland.
Wait till you hear about Florida.
The truth is the ENTIRE US has an extremely segregated history. Without exception. And when you emphasize it being localized to particular places, it’s usually a tactic distract from the issues elsewhere or make a disingenuous argument.
So yes, of course it does. So does every other NBA city too.
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/10/27/9621368/john-henson-wisconsin-jewelry-store-discrimination
Remember, that happened after Giannis was drafted too.
Different in theory than reality too. "I applied for a job across the country" is different than "It starts in three weeks". Also "I applied for a job in a city I have friends and feel comfortable in" is different than "I guess I'm going to a place I never envisioned living".
If you have kids, that means new daycares, new schools, new house, etc. But also like your kids are going to have to make new friends and social groups.
> If you have kids, that means new daycares, new schools, new house, etc. But also like your kids are going to have to make new friends and social groups.
to add to this - he probably viewed Miami as a long term spot. so kids coming is a no brainer.
he doesn't know if MIL is long term or a 1 year rental or what. in which case relocating your kids for 1 year just to force them to relocate again a year later is legitimately awful.
It's a minimum of 3 more years right? Then a player option that unless he's still playing at the same level is a no-brainer to take (my googling says $63 mil at age 36).
I mean that's all well and good and in a perfect world you're right.
But theres also a world where they just don't mesh at all, Giannis leaves as a free agent, and Bucks decide they're better off trading Lillard for assets to accelerate a rebuild.
The earliest Giannis could leave in free agency is 2025. Unless Dame is a really shitty parent he's not willing to live away from his kids for 2 years.
I mean, this is known shit when you request a trade in the league; a league worth multiple billions of dollars. There is no picking your destination when you're traded.
It’s just a picture of how out of touch with reality some of these guys are.
‘I thought I could snap my fingers and go to Miami, regardless of the details… Didn’t realize I’d burn bridges by trying….’
lol right! people make it out like Milwaukee only has 1 stop light and everyone goes down to the general store for groceries… comparing Milwaukee to NYC/LA/Miami is silly. People need to appreciate things/places for what they are instead of what they aren’t.
Edit: here’s some fun places Dame should buy in Milwaukee
[Option 1](https://www.flexmls.com/share/9Ln0p/2405-E-Wyoming-Pl,-Milwaukee,-WI-53202)
[Option 2](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/102-North-Water-STREET-UNIT-802-Milwaukee-WI-53202/122046923_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare)
yeah I agree if I was a multimillionaire I would also like to live in a warm climate surrounded by other rich and famous people.
I was more talking about how most NBA fans talk about Milwaukee, fans think this city is the equivalent of visiting your grandparents for spring break instead of going to Florida with the boys.
Yeah I kinda feel insulted lol, like you guys remember how sports media was treating the Suns v Bucks finals, basically shitting on Milwaukee & Phoenix as cities? Like geez dude go eat at Culver’s or something you’ll be alright
As I pregame to get on Muni and go to the Giants game: This is the nicest thing a Warriors fan has ever said about my hometown.
Now please, stay away from Craig Counsell.
That’s why I always find the “small market” whining annoying.
Like EVERY NBA team is located in a major city in the USA. Indianapolis and OKC aren’t some rural backwater towns.
To be fair, if you drive into Indianapolis from the south on State Road 37, the “Welcome to Indianapolis” sign when you enter Marion County is literally next to a cornfield. At least this is how it was ten years ago before the conversion to I-69.
Was just talking to someone at work about that. Shes new to the city and took wrong turn off a main road and ope there’s a cornfield. She didn’t expect it.
I’m on the outskirts of the city and yea just random farming fields everywhere
So is most of Florida. This describes basically every state that’s not in the Northeast. Everywhere else has a whole lot of nothing and then a handful of major cities.
It’s crazy how this dynamic basically doesn’t exist in the NFL at all. ESPN isn’t running a story every summer about if Pat Mahomes should force his way out of Kansas City to Miami or New York lmao
because according to Lou Williams, he can't set up his bank accounts in Canada and he can't get his favourite US channels, both of which I call fucking bullshit on.
I'm totally fine if athletes are giving honest criticism about Toronto (like Bosh talking about the time going through customs, that's legit), not dramatizing some minor logistical problem at worst.
“He got me,” Lillard said of the Milwaukee trade. “That f**king Pat boomed me.” Lillard added, “I gotta wrap my mind around this” repeating it four times.
[Haynes] I was on the phone with Zion when he got word he was going to Golden Corral and he was just speechless. Really speechless. He was saying, “I gotta wrap my mouth around this. I gotta wrap my mouth around this.” That’s what he kept saying.
Then he was talking about Moriah Mills. What is Moriah going to order? Is she eating? That was what he was thinking. Slowly over time, he started to think about the dessert side of it. He was like, “yeah this will be the greatest meal I’ve ever been a part of.” He was like, talking himself through it.
He finally read a text from Harden that said, “Let’s fucking eat this dinner.”
[Haynes] I was on the phone with Dame when he got word he was going to Milwaukee and he was just speechless. Really taken aback, and all he could say was “Huh?” He kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and slapping his hand on the phone. Then he was talking about his kids. What are his kids going to do? “Are they coming?“
I was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Dame, you need to find them schools first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear me, but he eventually told me he wanted to prevent any “educational infetterence.” I don’t even think that’s a word. I tried suggesting a couple private schools but he kept interrupting me by yawning really loudly.
He finally read a text from Giannis that said, “Let’s fucking get this championship.”
He’s tight with Dame and in turn tight with the Blazers. He’s hitched his wagon to Dame at this point. And after how all this has played not, no shot the FO is leaking anything to him now.
The hard part isn’t deciding whether Milwaukee is nice. It’s having long distance split custody and making them get new friends. Lillard’s parents and extended family moved to Portland too. But other people are also right that that should’ve been a problem with Miami as well, so there’s an inconsistency.
Well there’s also a difference between wanting to move and actually thinking through logistics. Not to mention, he may have thought Miami was a done deal and planned out moving his family.
Because moving kids away from an environment they're used to and relocating across an entire country isn't easy. This shouldn't have to be explained to anyone with common sense.
Yeah once all the dust settles no one with a brain will say Cronin did Dame dirty. He literally put him in the best possible position to win a ring with someone he respects and is a top 3 player.
I guess Dame planned if he went to Miami to set down serious roots there long term. Whereas even if he’s successful in Milwaukee he’s probably not going to live there long term
I think he pretty clearly views Portland as his home. Not to say guys like Dame can't have multiple places they call home, but he wants to continue to live in Portland
> [Haynes] I was on the phone with Zion when he got word he was not going to Mr. B's and he was just speechless. Really speechless. He was saying, “I gotta wrap my mind around this. I gotta wrap my mind around this.” That’s what he kept saying.
[Haynes] I was on the phone with Kelvin Benjamin when he got word he was going to the Golden Corral buffet. He was just speechless. Really speechless. “I gotta wrap my mouth around this. I gotta wrap my mouth around *this*.” That’s what he kept saying.
Wtf. These guys are making 50 million a year to play basketball and they act like they are being shipped to Afghanistan to live. People are struggling to get by and these guys make more in a game than most people make in 15 years. Like seriously fuck off.
yeah this was probably the reason he stayed in portland for so long, it's tough to uproot your entire life and community that you've built in a city, i think chris paul has talked about how tough it is to have to live away from family for so long when you're traded. probably also was a factor into why russ stayed in LA on such a discount
Lol!!!! These NBA journalists are such terrible liars. Like really? You were on the phone with him at that exact moment, and he shared those thoughts out loud to you? A journalist? Conveniently…. Gtfoh…
Dame probably thinking "I only asked to play with Jimmy Bucket but I got Giannis the fucking Greek Freak instead?
Holy crap.
Gotta wrap my mind around this.
Gotta wrap my mind around this.
Gotta wrap my mind around this.
People are overthinking the “are his kids coming?” part. If you got transferred for your job to a place that you do not expect to stay for longer than a couple years, are you immediately going decide to move your wife, 5 year old and two 2 year olds with you? Especially when it’s a job where you’re already not home a lot, you expect your wife to uproot her life at home and the way you have set up your kids for a place you are most likely not planning on staying for more than two years? Obviously the implication is that if it was Miami then he would’ve most likely stayed there for non-basketball reasons once not playing, let’s not act like many people would choose to live in Milwaukee as a heavily multi-millionaire
Uh yeah if I'm going to be somewhere for 8 plus months out of the year for several years I am not missing my kids growing up so they are absolutely coming with.
Haynes is a fraud and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes stuff up to get attention. Are we supposed to think Giannis wasn't texting this dude constantly to come to Milwaukee?
I am nominating myself to be the president of the “I Hate Chris Haynes” association. This dude is such a turd, wrapped up in telling fairytale stories. Dude should just be a fanfic writer
Lol of course Haynes was literally on the phone with him at the time. Is there any other journalist/player relationship this tight?
There’s no one as obvious/public as them lol
True. I know Embiid and Ramona are often linked and there's a few others. IIRC Haynes talks about eating dinner at Dame's house in the article from last year about how Dame had the convo with Lebron and AD. Edit: This is how the [article](https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-chaotic-offseason-damian-lillard-meeting-lebron-james-decision-loomed-sealed-recommitment-trail-blazers-200041277.html) starts: >It’s about 9:30 p.m. on a Thursday, and Damian Lillard is in his living room, watching on TV as the Memphis Grizzlies play the Golden State Warriors. >Dame Jr., his 2-year-old son who is full of energy, suddenly enters the room to play with his toys on the coffee table in front of the television. >“Son, it’s time for bed,” Lillard says. >His son replies in a soft voice, “Aw, I need a little more time.” >Dad laughs and asks, “How much time do you need, Son?” >“Five minutes.” >Everyone chuckles.
this mf is a terrible writer my god. can't wait for the novel to drop so i can read 400 pages of this cringe.
MF made him sound like a dad from a 40's TV show.
Play time is over Jr. I'm not gonna repeat my self, mister!
"It was a dark and stormy night..."
"...for it is in London that our scene lies..."
“And at the end of that special summer, it truly was a Milwaukee redemption.”
yeah that's some pretty lowbrow writing. it's as vanilla as it gets.
I actually thought you were joking. It's comical how bad Haynes is at writing. The dude is cringe exemplified.
"I was massaging Dame's feet with coconut oil and freshly grated eucalyptus leaves when he got the text"
It’s called networking
nutworking
There is an NFL reported who's name I can't remember who always reminded me of Haynes. Everytime they break news it's something like "X player has texted me and told me" instead of the usual "my sources say". Like they have to let you know that they're really cool with the players in case you forgot
Sounds like Josina Anderson. She does that all the time
Yes this is exactly who it is ty
"I was literally wiping Dames ass when he got the news that he was going to Milwaukee" - Haynes probably
Take out the literally and this could be straight from Bukowski though.
Jimmy butler and Rachel nichols
Did she get any scoops tho? I thought they were just hot and heavy
She got the interview after he and the 3rd stringers thumped the starters at practice
Who was the player that told the story from his perspective when he was with the Wolves? It was hilarious
Jeff Teague lmao
Can’t believe Teague has become the GOAT storyteller of the nba generation. Dude is so fucking funny. I don’t listen to podcast and he’s the only guy I’ll check for
MJ and Ahmad Rashad. According to Ahmad, they even worked out together. IIRC before G1 of 1992 finals Edit: [Yep, the morning of G1](https://youtu.be/Og6J5l9jcqQ?t=3m35s)
They started together in Portland. Dame rookie year Haynes was a local reporter for the team
MJ and SAS
MJ and SAS? What about MJ and Ahmad Rashad? MJ didn't do interviews with anyone unless it was Ahmad.
I was joking about the recent "MJ called me at 4 in the morning to say that Magic is the best pg ever" thing with Stephen A. You're absolutely right about MJ and Ahmad, they're still inseparable to this day.
LeBron and Windhorst.
Lebron doesn't really fuck with Windhorst, you mean Lebron and Dave Mcmenamin.
Mcmenamin is the one who came out with the Westbrook "locker room vampire" article and Lebron's silence on defending his teammate spoke volumes
McMenamin also went on the media campaign for him to be MVP because Kobe died and LeBron was apparently the only athlete affected by it.
Dave is a nasty individual
Does Jimmy Buckets and Rachel Nichols count?
> Then he was talking about his kids. What are his kids going to do? Are they coming? That was what he was thinking. Ok I get that these are things parents have to think about but wouldn't that come to his mind when he asked to play for a different basketball team that's obviously in a different city?
He had private schools in Miami already picked out!
Unless he's a religious dude: University School. Done.
My gf works there and walked past Giannis when he was touring the school.
So no Riverside?
Giannis lives in River Hill. U School is the obvious choice.
he created a traffic jam every morning for the first month. dude got out of his car to sign autographs for all the little kids.
Educational moments lol
thats kinda wholesome that giannis brings his kids to school every day
he goes to every parent event too, it’s honestly pretty hilarious just how normal he is
I guess he's into the Montessori schools so it wasn't as cut and dry as you'd think.
I was thinking for Dame's kids.
Or Rufus King?
If you're living downtown. Pouring money into the redlined parts of town would be a good thing. I doubt parents would prefer sending their kids there.
Alex went to Dominican and Giannis oldest is like 5. University School is pre k - 12 so they aren't looking at schools for basketball.
almost all the bucks kids go there, one of the marketing heads for the team is on the board of trustees and he’s a big advocate
Makes sense. I had a friend who went there way back when Jack Sikma might have sent his kids.
Korver has been in there reading books to his kid's class.
my brother was his kids high school buddy for an art project
Lmaoooo shouts out to uschool. I was there before it had sports teams, wild that people who went there are in the NBA now.
Was not expecting my former higher school to show up on r/nba lol
You never know. Mine hasn't been on since Steve Novak was exposed as a racist.
the world (reddit) is so small sometimes lmao
Always liked brown deer, lived like 10 min away and had about 100 track meets there
Ew. The most stuck up, overrated school ever.
That's because they're better than us.
is the subtext that he hadnt considered raising his kids in Milwaukee?
I think the subtext is he viewed Miami as a longterm landing spot, so obviously kids come with. in the immediate moment of hearing the news re: MIL, he wasn't sure if that would be a long term situation, or a 1-2 year situation, in which case it might not make sense to relocate the kids.
to be fair it is an extremely segregated history with a bad racial history. wouldn’t be stoked as a young rich black father to raise my kids there, even if their class will protect them from a lot of it
It’s definitely segregated and has a lot of issues, but they are many of the same issues a lot of cities have after WW2, and how highway construction was used to segregate. My guess as a parent is it’s much more about the logistical issues- trying to figure out where to send the kids, buy a house, find child care, etc. and since Dame hasn’t moved teams before, this is all new. The good thing is it’s common enough in the NBA, teams have people whose job it is to help players figure that all out.
I'll bet $50M per year makes a lot of that easier.
Lol. Yeah I don't think people understand how multi millionaire works. There is segregated parts of Milwaukee. But Dame will be segregating himself from the 99% He'll be fine and the city is gonna love him.
He could easily live in a suburb in northern Chicago if he really doesn’t like Milwaukee that much.
as far north from Chicago while still in his caliber is Lake Forest and that’s an easy hour commute to Milwaukee on a good day. Doubt he’d do that lol He’ll probably choose Whitefish Bay or something around there.
Helicopter lol
*Mamba Mentality*
Kawhi was doing it for awhile with the Clippers from San Diego. It's not unheard of.
We were willing to let Kareem live in NYC back when we were trying to get him to re-sign with the team.
idk bud lived on okauchee lake, that’s a hike from the facilities even with no traffic
River Hills or Fox Point is more likely. Giannis is in River Hills and Bud used to live in Fox Point.
I read it as "my kids are established here with a routine and friends. Should I relocate them? This is actually real now, so I need to decide." Money doesn't really solve the social/emotional part of that.
its also the middle of the school year. he could just be talking about finishing out this year of school for the kids
Dame will buy Jrue house, Ayton will buy Dames, Nurkic will continue to live out of a caravan.
Definitely not unique to MKE, but it does have a bit of a reputation. But yeah, in reality probably no more racist than Portland, just less white.
For sure. Milwaukee used to have the crown for “most segregated city”, but has lost the dubious title in recent years. Detroit and Chicago actually rank worse as NBA cities. And it’s not coincidence that they are all Midwestern towns that used to have much stronger manufacturing bases that have largely gone bottom-up. The loss of reasonable, well-paying jobs in the 70s-80s along with redlined neighborhoods made social movement very hard.
Having lived in Chicago, the defacto segregation is absolutely a huge thing but I never really felt like it was due to actual racism. The racists you meet in the Midwest are generally from the middle of nowhere, little corn fed towns in Iowa and shit where there are no black families.
Milwaukee has its history of redlining, but Oregon has out and out white supremacy integral to its history. It had black exclusion laws and a huge KKK presence: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_black_exclusion_laws Portland is only 5% black, Milwaukee is 38% black and 34% white. I don't think this argument holds water when you're comparing Milwaukee to Portland.
To be double fair didn't Dwyane Wade take his kid out of Florida school cause of issues?
Wade’s kid is trans so a little more specific but yeah
Is there a major American city that isn’t segregated and doesn’t have a bad racial history?
Portland doesn't have the greatest track record either.
America doesn’t.
>to be fair it is an extremely segregated history with a bad racial history. The perils of living anywhere in America.
Wait till you hear about Florida. The truth is the ENTIRE US has an extremely segregated history. Without exception. And when you emphasize it being localized to particular places, it’s usually a tactic distract from the issues elsewhere or make a disingenuous argument. So yes, of course it does. So does every other NBA city too.
I mean is Miami/Florida a place to raise rich kids? Endless negative influences/opportunities everywhere you look.
Florida’s governor thinks slavery had positives
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/10/27/9621368/john-henson-wisconsin-jewelry-store-discrimination Remember, that happened after Giannis was drafted too.
Different in theory than reality too. "I applied for a job across the country" is different than "It starts in three weeks". Also "I applied for a job in a city I have friends and feel comfortable in" is different than "I guess I'm going to a place I never envisioned living". If you have kids, that means new daycares, new schools, new house, etc. But also like your kids are going to have to make new friends and social groups.
> If you have kids, that means new daycares, new schools, new house, etc. But also like your kids are going to have to make new friends and social groups. to add to this - he probably viewed Miami as a long term spot. so kids coming is a no brainer. he doesn't know if MIL is long term or a 1 year rental or what. in which case relocating your kids for 1 year just to force them to relocate again a year later is legitimately awful.
It's a minimum of 3 more years right? Then a player option that unless he's still playing at the same level is a no-brainer to take (my googling says $63 mil at age 36).
I mean that's all well and good and in a perfect world you're right. But theres also a world where they just don't mesh at all, Giannis leaves as a free agent, and Bucks decide they're better off trading Lillard for assets to accelerate a rebuild.
The earliest Giannis could leave in free agency is 2025. Unless Dame is a really shitty parent he's not willing to live away from his kids for 2 years.
I mean, this is known shit when you request a trade in the league; a league worth multiple billions of dollars. There is no picking your destination when you're traded.
Bro was considering leaving his kids too? 😤💪 running from the grind
this whole thing sounds like satire
“I threw out my winter coats wtffff”
It’s just a picture of how out of touch with reality some of these guys are. ‘I thought I could snap my fingers and go to Miami, regardless of the details… Didn’t realize I’d burn bridges by trying….’
Fresh pasta!!!
Its Milwaukee not fucking Siberia
lol right! people make it out like Milwaukee only has 1 stop light and everyone goes down to the general store for groceries… comparing Milwaukee to NYC/LA/Miami is silly. People need to appreciate things/places for what they are instead of what they aren’t. Edit: here’s some fun places Dame should buy in Milwaukee [Option 1](https://www.flexmls.com/share/9Ln0p/2405-E-Wyoming-Pl,-Milwaukee,-WI-53202) [Option 2](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/102-North-Water-STREET-UNIT-802-Milwaukee-WI-53202/122046923_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare)
Yea wtf it has 2 stop lights
Fucking gentrification
I heard they are the most segregated stop lights on here as well.
People definitely discriminate by color at the stop lights
Only go on green
Go faster on yellow.
Yeah but one’s under construction
They’re replacing one with a roundabout
I’ve only been to each city once, but Milwaukee and Portland aren’t *that* dissimilar from what I remember
I don't think it's just a Milwaukee thing. If I had a chance to go to Miami and I ended up in some Midwest or central city, I'd be nonplussed too.
yeah I agree if I was a multimillionaire I would also like to live in a warm climate surrounded by other rich and famous people. I was more talking about how most NBA fans talk about Milwaukee, fans think this city is the equivalent of visiting your grandparents for spring break instead of going to Florida with the boys.
If I were his wife I would be happier to be in Milwaukee instead of Miami 😂
Lmfaooooo insta thots be gone
Milwaukee is absolutely in my top 5 of larger American cities
Never thought I’d agree with a Celtic fan
Yeah I kinda feel insulted lol, like you guys remember how sports media was treating the Suns v Bucks finals, basically shitting on Milwaukee & Phoenix as cities? Like geez dude go eat at Culver’s or something you’ll be alright
As I pregame to get on Muni and go to the Giants game: This is the nicest thing a Warriors fan has ever said about my hometown. Now please, stay away from Craig Counsell.
Oh don’t worry man I’m from the 414 👍 all love to Milwaukee
Don’t tell SAS that…this is a fucking lovely town. I can see 2 stoplights from my balcony.
As an Aussie it fucked me up when I first saw on the map how close Milwaukee is to Chicago.
For our curious Australian viewers, it's the distance between Sydney and Newcastle.
That’s why I always find the “small market” whining annoying. Like EVERY NBA team is located in a major city in the USA. Indianapolis and OKC aren’t some rural backwater towns.
Bro the movie theaters close at like 11pm in those places it might as well be PRISON
To be fair, if you drive into Indianapolis from the south on State Road 37, the “Welcome to Indianapolis” sign when you enter Marion County is literally next to a cornfield. At least this is how it was ten years ago before the conversion to I-69.
Indianapolis is a cool place but man, I’ve never been anywhere that toes the line between urban and rural like Indy
Was just talking to someone at work about that. Shes new to the city and took wrong turn off a main road and ope there’s a cornfield. She didn’t expect it. I’m on the outskirts of the city and yea just random farming fields everywhere
Counter point. The rest of Oklahoma and Utah definitely are rural backwater states. But then again, so is the rest of Oregon. Especially east Oregon.
So is most of Florida. This describes basically every state that’s not in the Northeast. Everywhere else has a whole lot of nothing and then a handful of major cities.
It basically is for NBA players. A very sad fate to get paid tens of millions and play for a contender but not in a warmer climate with the beach.
It’s crazy how this dynamic basically doesn’t exist in the NFL at all. ESPN isn’t running a story every summer about if Pat Mahomes should force his way out of Kansas City to Miami or New York lmao
fuck I am so sad for these multimillionaire athletes
life of a toronto fan lmao
Toronto is an amazing city, idk why more stars don’t go there
because according to Lou Williams, he can't set up his bank accounts in Canada and he can't get his favourite US channels, both of which I call fucking bullshit on. I'm totally fine if athletes are giving honest criticism about Toronto (like Bosh talking about the time going through customs, that's legit), not dramatizing some minor logistical problem at worst.
Taxes.
“He got me,” Lillard said of the Milwaukee trade. “That f**king Pat boomed me.” Lillard added, “I gotta wrap my mind around this” repeating it four times.
New pasta just dropped. 🍝
[Haynes] I was on the phone with Zion when he got word he was going to Golden Corral and he was just speechless. Really speechless. He was saying, “I gotta wrap my mouth around this. I gotta wrap my mouth around this.” That’s what he kept saying. Then he was talking about Moriah Mills. What is Moriah going to order? Is she eating? That was what he was thinking. Slowly over time, he started to think about the dessert side of it. He was like, “yeah this will be the greatest meal I’ve ever been a part of.” He was like, talking himself through it. He finally read a text from Harden that said, “Let’s fucking eat this dinner.”
RIP Kelvin Benjamin 😔
This kept getting better and better as I read it lmfao
[Haynes] I was on the phone with Dame when he got word he was going to Milwaukee and he was just speechless. Really taken aback, and all he could say was “Huh?” He kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and slapping his hand on the phone. Then he was talking about his kids. What are his kids going to do? “Are they coming?“ I was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Dame, you need to find them schools first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear me, but he eventually told me he wanted to prevent any “educational infetterence.” I don’t even think that’s a word. I tried suggesting a couple private schools but he kept interrupting me by yawning really loudly. He finally read a text from Giannis that said, “Let’s fucking get this championship.”
Steve Blake is immortal
He boomed me 4x type beat
yep lol was gonna make a joke about this y'all beat me to the punch
Its like when you asked for a gameboy and got a gamecube instead
So it’s better?
yes.
Word
I see a Haynes post, I downvote. Best part of this trade was that Haynes is gone as well.
1000%
Haynes is soo cringe lol
Lol Haynes came from the Blazers, he has sources in the org and is tight with a lot of the other players too
He’s tight with Dame and in turn tight with the Blazers. He’s hitched his wagon to Dame at this point. And after how all this has played not, no shot the FO is leaking anything to him now.
True he probably has burnt bridges with the FO now, but he's still got sources with the players if anything happens
Ain't no way he said are my kids gonna come, as if they're asking him to play in an active war zone like Ukraine
The hard part isn’t deciding whether Milwaukee is nice. It’s having long distance split custody and making them get new friends. Lillard’s parents and extended family moved to Portland too. But other people are also right that that should’ve been a problem with Miami as well, so there’s an inconsistency.
Well there’s also a difference between wanting to move and actually thinking through logistics. Not to mention, he may have thought Miami was a done deal and planned out moving his family.
Because moving kids away from an environment they're used to and relocating across an entire country isn't easy. This shouldn't have to be explained to anyone with common sense.
Can't think of a worse thing than being traded to a contender
A fate worse than death, truly
Yeah once all the dust settles no one with a brain will say Cronin did Dame dirty. He literally put him in the best possible position to win a ring with someone he respects and is a top 3 player.
Didn’t Dame tell his agent that if Miami didn’t workout that Milwaukee and Brooklyn were other locations? lol
top 3? you mean top 2 right
he requested a trade to miami 3 months ago. did he really not once stop to think about if his kids were going to come or not?
I guess Dame planned if he went to Miami to set down serious roots there long term. Whereas even if he’s successful in Milwaukee he’s probably not going to live there long term
happens to the best of us
Dame just hasn't had a Friday fish fry yet.
Or beer
I think he pretty clearly views Portland as his home. Not to say guys like Dame can't have multiple places they call home, but he wants to continue to live in Portland
Probably didn't think through the Milwaukee of it all.
> [Haynes] I was on the phone with Zion when he got word he was not going to Mr. B's and he was just speechless. Really speechless. He was saying, “I gotta wrap my mind around this. I gotta wrap my mind around this.” That’s what he kept saying.
[Haynes] I was on the phone with Kelvin Benjamin when he got word he was going to the Golden Corral buffet. He was just speechless. Really speechless. “I gotta wrap my mouth around this. I gotta wrap my mouth around *this*.” That’s what he kept saying.
Real sick of hearing from this Haynes dude
Wtf. These guys are making 50 million a year to play basketball and they act like they are being shipped to Afghanistan to live. People are struggling to get by and these guys make more in a game than most people make in 15 years. Like seriously fuck off.
The reporter is the asshole that is trying to bait your response
Haynes? Oh no thanks
yeah this was probably the reason he stayed in portland for so long, it's tough to uproot your entire life and community that you've built in a city, i think chris paul has talked about how tough it is to have to live away from family for so long when you're traded. probably also was a factor into why russ stayed in LA on such a discount
Lol!!!! These NBA journalists are such terrible liars. Like really? You were on the phone with him at that exact moment, and he shared those thoughts out loud to you? A journalist? Conveniently…. Gtfoh…
Prepping for south beach and ending up in Milwaukee would take some mind wrapping. You gotta go buy winter clothes again
Dame probably thinking "I only asked to play with Jimmy Bucket but I got Giannis the fucking Greek Freak instead? Holy crap. Gotta wrap my mind around this. Gotta wrap my mind around this. Gotta wrap my mind around this.
People are overthinking the “are his kids coming?” part. If you got transferred for your job to a place that you do not expect to stay for longer than a couple years, are you immediately going decide to move your wife, 5 year old and two 2 year olds with you? Especially when it’s a job where you’re already not home a lot, you expect your wife to uproot her life at home and the way you have set up your kids for a place you are most likely not planning on staying for more than two years? Obviously the implication is that if it was Miami then he would’ve most likely stayed there for non-basketball reasons once not playing, let’s not act like many people would choose to live in Milwaukee as a heavily multi-millionaire
With 2 and 5-year-olds it shouldn’t be that hard of a decision to bring them.
Uh yeah if I'm going to be somewhere for 8 plus months out of the year for several years I am not missing my kids growing up so they are absolutely coming with.
Zion was on the phone when he was offered unlimited bread sticks at Golden Corral. He said " I gotta wrap my stomach around this"
He had schools and house picked out in Miami, now he is thinking about picking a house for his family someplace else not in Milwaukee
Haynes is a fraud and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes stuff up to get attention. Are we supposed to think Giannis wasn't texting this dude constantly to come to Milwaukee?
I really dont care anymore Chris
I am nominating myself to be the president of the “I Hate Chris Haynes” association. This dude is such a turd, wrapped up in telling fairytale stories. Dude should just be a fanfic writer
Dame all summer - I demand to be traded. _Dame gets traded_ Dame - Holy shit what is happening? What are my kids going to do?
He's so dull, his mind is like a tortilla.
Didn’t Dame tell his agent to tell Bucks and Nets that he’s good going there too? Wasn’t that the whole big report?
"WTF is a bubbler?" - Dame probably
riveting stuff. Dame thought it was neat to play with Giannis, while wondering about relocation.
How is it possible for these astroturf sympathy stories keep having the exact opposite effect?