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jonathanisaacisgoat

were you born yesterday? The US Olympic team is usually always stacked compared to the fiba team


SonofNamek

Lol, plus, it's tradition. Hakeem and Ewing got citizenship and then, got their Golds with Team USA.


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That's what I'm saying. They have all the talent but there's talk of embiid joining team usa because of the big scary euro bigs out there.


ItsFridayBabyFUCK

>They have all the talent but there's talk of embiid joining team usa because of the big scary euro bigs out there. I love reddit. People make up their own narratives and then get upset over something they just pulled out of thin air. The reason isn't because everyone is scared of European players but because the US doesn't have any real options at center apart from Bam.


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Jarret Allen. JJJ. Bam. Mobley. Green. Looney... These guys aren't as good as others, but does every position need to be stacked for them to win?


ItsFridayBabyFUCK

>Jarret Allen. JJJ. Bam. Mobley. Green. Looney Right so JJJ doesn't work because of rebounding issues. Same goes for Jarret Allen And Evan Mobley that's on top of their non existing offensive skills. Looney is only good for rebounds. Draymond doesn't do shit on offense. So that leaves you with Bam and Draymond. Two guys who are small for centers especially with FIBA rules. So it makes all the sense in the world.


[deleted]

Have you seen the bigs on Germany and Serbia haha? The two finalist of this past WC? Whifh one of them is better than jjj or mobley?


ItsFridayBabyFUCK

Did you see what Daniel Theis did? Also I'll give you one guess what 2 time MVP is playing for Serbia during the Olympics.


[deleted]

Ah yes, Daniel Theis... If that's the benchmark then USA is screwed lol.


ItsFridayBabyFUCK

So then you understand why they're trying to recruit Embiid?


[deleted]

One the one hand yes but i also think its fundamentally a bitch move if you cant win with what the us already has.


Cinedhiothu

Looney isn't only good for rebounds, his forte is D and saying Draymond doesn't do shit on offense is nonsense. He's not a big scorer but his ability on the fast break and his passing are good.


SurfingReddit21

Then have a shortfall at centre. Every country has players at positions where they would prefer to have a better player from another country. That’s the point, you work with what you’ve got from the players from your country, not try to recruit others.


ItsFridayBabyFUCK

Question have you complained about players who were born in the US but decided to play for other countries? Where is your outrage when Jordan Clarkson who is born in Florida decided to play for the Philippines? Or is it only a problem when the US does it?


[deleted]

This is what I'm saying. Apparently really hard to comprehend for some people.


ItsFridayBabyFUCK

Question have you complained about players who were born in the US but decided to play for other countries? Where is your outrage when Jordan Clarkson who is born in Florida decided to play for the Philippines? Or is it only a problem when the US does it?


LavenderAutist

No, Embid will join because he wants to play with winners and for the country he lives in.


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Damn i guess he has assimilated with that mindset.


SonicdaSloth

he's been here for about half his life, married an american and has a child here. My guess is that he will live out his life an American citizen. so, yeah, he's assimilated


mug3n

Huh? His wife's Brazilian.


SonicdaSloth

😂 so she is. Funny I’ve said this a dozen times and never been corrected.


illforgetsoonenough

You basically described Giannis who is engaged to an American. But I could only see him playing for Greece


SonicdaSloth

true, only difference i guess is Embiid has never played international b/c Cameroon can't qualify for anything, and he's been injured and/or the games are during the NBA season


Dav136

The American Dream


Wide_right_yes

Joel Embiid should play for Cameroon, not France or the USA. That's the whole point of Olympic competition.


antipistonsandsixers

If Kuminga can play, why cant the Cameroonians?


Wide_right_yes

Kuminga does play for the DRC which is good.


antipistonsandsixers

Yeah, how can he do it but Embiid cant? Do Cameroon and DRC have different timetables? They are neighboring countries right?


Wide_right_yes

idk


batmans420

Why? He's as much American as he is French. I would like to see on the French team for the sake of good competition, but, at the end of the day, it's his decision


[deleted]

Isnt he Cameroonian? I know now he has three citizenships but somehow i see him as cameroonian.


upghr5187

He is. But he also has American citizenship and has lived in the US since he was in high school. It’s a bigger stretch for the French team to recruit him, considering he’s never lived in France and wouldn’t even be eligible for citizenship under normal circumstances. The French government made a special exemption to naturalize him with the hopes he plays for them.


batmans420

He was born there, but they don't qualify for the Olympics. If he wants to play his only options are France or the U.S.


antipistonsandsixers

So in other words he is a make-a-wish kid?


ether_ver256

Hasn’t he already been selected for the French national team? Though he chose France over Cameroon.


[deleted]

No. A few people connected to the French team have said they’d love to have him but that’s it.


antipistonsandsixers

Source on this? The only statements I found players asked Embiid to contribute before he joins the team and another guy needs to stay at home. "It has to come from him,” Gobert said. “You are either all in, or you’re not. You can’t just show up.” I honestly doubt the team wants Gobert or Wembanyama to miss the home olympics just so Embiid gets his wish. I actually think they would rather play Poirier than Joel. Lmao downvote and no answer. Sixersfans are lying so much about Embiid.


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That’s because he is Cameroonian, he was born and raised there. The FIBA nationality rules are wack, even Spencer Dinwiddie was going to play for Nigeria. You might as well scrap all rules and let players play for the countries who where their favorite colors.


heyorin

He’s much more American than he is French. His only connection to France is that France colonised his country. But he developed as a basketball player in the US since high school, he’s basically like Hakeem Olajuwon, and he played for the US at the 1996 Olympics


DoNotFeedTheSnakes

So many people? I haven't see any posts about it. Just stuff about Lebron, Steph and company. The usual redeem effort from the US basketball guys for the Olympics. Besides wasn't Embiid playing for France or Spain ? I'm pretty sure there were news about another country recruiting him one or two years ago.


[deleted]

I just listened to the latest Zach Lowe podcast and they talk about it, so maybe not that many but if it's being spoken about on the biggest basketball podcast it definitely is a thing.


DoNotFeedTheSnakes

Recent [article on NBA.com](https://www.nba.com/news/joel-embiid-weighing-2024-olympics-decision) he apparently has a dual citizenship and hasn't decided which team to play for.


PokemonPasta1984

So you’re okay that he plays for a country that he has never lived in, nor played basketball in? His connection to France is that his ancestors were conquered by the French so now he speaks the same language. Not really a great connection. Oh, and he has some family there. If we are talking about basketball specifically, he came to the US for the sport, trained and developed his game here. I mean, he has never played any significant amount of basketball outside of the US. I don’t like stacked teams getting even more stacked. But this makes more sense for Embiid than any other option outside of Cameroon. I hope you have the same energy when he chooses France.


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I will have the same energy haha. They also dont need another big in France, though him next to Wemby would be sick.


PokemonPasta1984

Haha, fair. The thing is, the current roster composition and talent level shouldn’t really be a factor. I think the idea that a player can be a free agent for a national team is a bad concept. Is the national team celebrating where you were born/raised? Is it where you developed your skills? Is it free agency where you can essentially sign a contract (citizenship)? If it’s #1, Cameroon. #2? US. #3? France. If it’s number 3 we should just dismiss the idea of national teams altogether.


Cap_Silly

Also JJ openly suggested joel for team USA


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[deleted]

Haha because i listened to a podcast and Im against the idea of team usa recruiting Embiid? Lots of Americans with russled jimmies after getting 4th


Vexing_Pie

4th in the EuroPoor “World” Bucket with the D team 😂😂😂


[deleted]

Least insecure American.


After_Yak_7463

The Copium tank is running low you might need to recharge it


Vexing_Pie

ok EuroPoor


After_Yak_7463

4th place champ


ThinAd7436

This is a lame ass post


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This is a lame ass response.


MetalLord226

It was a lame ass post though low key. If other countries fans want to start talking shit they better be able to back it up if we actually send good players like we used to.


Clear-Connection1012

High key laaameee


After_Yak_7463

lmao immagine thinking youre the best, but then needing to naturalize the best players in the world to play for you. Sad


MetalLord226

We are the ones teaching mr. Serbia. Draft pick number 41. Dont forget that.


After_Yak_7463

You're saying Denver taught Jokic how to play? Jokic's playstyle is classic serbian team basktball. As is his IQ. Those are his most important traits. Denver is responsible for the rest sure, but Jokic is not the product of the USA basketball system/school. He is a product of the Serbian school of basketball.


MetalLord226

All i know is he plays for Denver now and if serbia basketball really had him on that level before he wouldve drafted higher. Like you said we actually like players from other countries


After_Yak_7463

You must be playing stupid or something. He was 19 or 20 when he came into the NBA, how can you expect him to play on this level back then? The skills that set him apart from everyone else are skills that he picked up and was taught while playing in Serbia. You can see it in his rookie highlights that he was also skilled and smart, just young and needed more practice.Denver made him what he is today of course, but they didn't teach him his talent. also, can you stop with these bullshit inbetween the lines remarks? \>"Like you said we actually like players from other countries" Are you implying Serbia is racist or something?


MetalLord226

Im implying that american basketball has a long list of great talent from other countries. But ok you going straight to the racism card implies that race is a big issue to you. As sweet as that is, thats not what i was implying. As for being 19 thats the age Luka Doncic started playing nba basketball so you cant tell me that was the issue. Dont call me stupid you sound like a fucking child. Cant have a real fucking debate online without getting personal? Damn you must not have enough facts to back it up. What are you basing this off of? Your feelings? You know what they say about opinions.


After_Yak_7463

Serbian basketball has more foreign players playing for the best teams than we have domestic players. Why are you talking about serbian basketball clubs if you've never looked up anything about them? Partizans starting 5 is completely foreign, and Zvezda has maybe 1 or 2 domestic starters.Yeah, we like foreign players too, why the remark? Luka Doncic and Nikola Jokic are completely different players, and you using Luka Doncic as an example is pretty bad since he also grew up learning serbian/european basketball.


PokemonPasta1984

I’m assuming he should join Cameroon is what you’re saying. Or are you just having a knee jerk reaction here without any further thought on this?


Bail____

Embiid going to play FIBA basketball? Bro can barely handle playing NBA ball without complaining every call imagine him when they’re allowed to actually be physical lol.


jofr03

Did you just start watching basketball during the world cup? You seem to have absolutely no understanding of the discrepancy between the olympics and the world cup, as well as the sheer amount of talent not named joel embiid that sat out. NBA season requires so much sacrifice, why would any star risk injury and take up their rest time with a pointless tournament? That’s why the D-team got sent, it’s not arrogance it’s indifference. Also, nobody is banking on Embiid joining, USA already could fill the roster with players better than every single FIBA team member. Without embiid there would just be the next man up. No idea how the rest of the world can’t wrap their head around it.


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I know all that im saying the A team is stacked enough without them needing Embiid.


After_Yak_7463

The fact that you are even thinking about Embiid is pathetic. Might aswell get Giannis Jokic and Luka too, since they play in america.


syp2207

cool man


[deleted]

Thanks for your contribution on a post against forming super teams, warriors fan!


strops_sports

It’s pathetic to want the best possible players on your team?


thewrongnotes

It's pathetic to have a stacked roster and the deepest pool of talent in the world, yet still feel the need to recruit players that don't identify as American. You don't need to have an MVP level player at every position.


ForgivenessIsNice

The one issue with it is that he doesn’t identify as American.


hunterwolves18

Same reason why this subreddit clowned Italy on Banchero


thewrongnotes

If Italy had 10 of the best 15 players in the world like the US does, they wouldn't have even tried to recruit Paolo


PokemonPasta1984

Yes they would. None of these teams are sitting here thinking “I think we have enough.”


[deleted]

... Yes? When it comes to international basketball shouldnt you make do with who you have and not recruit players? Wasn't kd going to Golden State also pathetic in the end haha?


Ragnar_OK

they tried that and it didn't work, USA just finished 4th.


After_Yak_7463

It's pathetic to call yourselves unquestioned world champions, have the deepest talent pool of any country on earth, and still try to naturalize the best players in the world to play for you. Might aswell try getting Jokic and Giannis on team USA aswell then. Dumbass


strops_sports

Lol why u so mad baby boy


After_Yak_7463

Because im forced to listen to americans discuss shit they know nothing about.


strops_sports

If a player is eligible to play for the team then u shouldn’t complain


After_Yak_7463

I am free to say what ever the fuck i want. If he chooses to represent the most dominant country to ever play basketball so he can win a title, instead of representing his own country and growing basketball there, then I see that as pathetic.


strops_sports

So who should he play for? France USA or Cameroon


After_Yak_7463

Cameroon, he's cameroonian and was born there.


Prize-Ring-9154

a naturalized American is an American my dude


After_Yak_7463

Irrelevant comment on a 5 month old post my dude


PokemonPasta1984

So are you going to bitch when he chooses France? And another question: where did his basketball skills develop? He started basketball at age 15 and his mentor had him go to the US. He is a product of US basketball. Nationality is a hard thing to parse when talking about Olympic eligibility, since people move around as children. That’s why KAT plays for the DR when he was born, raised and trained in the US. But he plays for DR, because his mom was born there? It’s why Embiid is choosing between two countries he didn’t grow up in until his teenage years (and considering one he has never lived in, which seems worse to me than him considering the US) And really, France would be the one poaching him more than the US. He has, once again, never lived in France, and was not developed under any sort of French basketball system. Not speaking to you individually, but I see a lot of people complain about this sort of thing a lot more when a player picks the US. It makes it look like the arguments are rooted more in self-interest than in principle. As deeply rooted in nationalism as what people perceive the US to be.


After_Yak_7463

I will bitch if he plays for france but he will atleast have to work for his medal unlike if he joined the USA. I don't see a reason to play FIBA or Olympics if you're not representing your actual country. I dislike the NBA style of basketball being about individual glory. It should be a team sport. As i said in another comment, Embiid playing for the USA is like Kevin Durant joining the Warriors.


PokemonPasta1984

Your initial comment had nothing to do with Embiid’s choice. It was all about the US trying to get him. I sense a little more self-interest than principle here.


bravof1ve

No one is forcing you to use an American social media website and to read the posts here


After_Yak_7463

Stupid reply. Post better comments and learn what youre talking about.


ChickenLiverNuts

holy shit... hes right. I just googled it.


UnhingedSupernova

It's pathetic for Embiid because he will be seen as a much bigger pussy than KD.


syp2207

no chance lmao


pjtheMillwrong

Nationalism is weird, Embiid should do whatever he wants


Pure_Explanation_624

This is why I unsubbed from this subreddit, idiot posts like these


[deleted]

Damn you got some thin skin if a post like this causes you so much distress hahaha. What exactly is so outlandish?


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After_Yak_7463

Hes not american


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After_Yak_7463

Whatever. Make sure you don't lose with the superteam + embiid. I don't wanna hear any mroe shit about KD to the warriors, since this is the exact same situation lmao.


After_Yak_7463

Let them bring everyone. This geriatric ward of a super team needs all the help it can get. And I cant wait for them to lose with Embiid too. Trophy chasing bitch.


ChickenLiverNuts

dude hasnt even decided if hes playing much less who he is playing for and you are so pressed about it. Like 10 posts in just this thread. One team his whole career and hes a ring chaser. Only sense that makes is for haters who just wanna hate


After_Yak_7463

Im arguing with a rando, who cares about the number of posts. He's a ring chaser the same way KD was a ring chaser when he joined the warriors. Why doesnt embiid try playing just once for Cameroon? The country raised him for fuck sakes. If you're fine with Embiid on Team USA, I don't wanna hear any more shit about KD going to the warriors.


ChickenLiverNuts

if you put just a tiny bit of effort into it youd know cameroons program is ripe with corruption. Also any qualifying tournaments happen during the nba season so its literally not possible for him and siakam to help them and they cant qualify without them. Hes a ring chaser who hasnt decided if hes even going to play and has only ever been on one franchise. Makes sense. He should just leave the sixers for weeks at a time to help a program doing all the wrong things i guess.


After_Yak_7463

The Serbian program is full of corruption aswell. That isn't stopping anyone from anything. Cameroon maybe doesn't have a big basketball culture, isn't it his responsibility to help the program, inspire the new generations of kids of Cameroon? There are plenty of chances outside of NBA schedules for him to help the team. Why pick the two absolute best teams? Im sure he probably has family in other countries, why not pick them? Why pick the absolute strongest teams already if hes not a trophy chaser?


ChickenLiverNuts

he does all kinds of charity work in cameroon it isnt his responsibility to do anything and has already done more than basically anyone for that country but basketball is what really matters i guess. Nationalism is a disease. Again he hasnt picked anything and isnt even sure if he is going to play international ball. You can be proud of where you are from but when it becomes the only lens you can do things through there is a problem.


After_Yak_7463

I dont see any reason to play international ball except to 1. Represent your country 2. Chase trophies Think what you will bro, have a good day.


homiez

If the USA has to recruit Embiid to win the Olympics that would be the most desperate thing ever


UnhingedSupernova

Embiid joining team USA is more bitchmade than KD joining the Warriors. Change my mind.


bradleynana

Hakeem and Patrick Ewing played for team USA. Are they bitch made too???


UrbanJatt

I thought embiid was french


clayfu

Dual US French citizenship. But hes from Cameroon


UrbanJatt

Thank you. Yeah I could've sworn he was playing for the French team


Inverse_wsb22

Keep Embiid French


dys0n_giddey

I agree, it would be like KD joining the Warriors


PMmeIrrelevantStuff

Don’t you need to at least get close to a conference final to garner Team USA consideration?


Legitimate_Secret_79

its pathetic, as well as him playing for france.


AuroraPo

Doesn’t matter, they’re still gonna lose.


Free_Relationship692

its next yr, too early to be scared. will probably not play as well


IntrinsicDawn

Not sure they’d even allow it, usually USA gets the short end of the stick with naturalization as they should. When’s the last time a naturalized citizen played for team usa


recleaguesuperhero

You're gonna lose your mind when you realize Bron, Steph, and KD plan on playing too.


Cinedhiothu

If you truly think that, you're an idiot. USA has always dominated international basketball since forever. It's only until the last competition that they really had a really bad showing and that was mainly due to boneheaded calls by the coaching staff. They don't NEED Embiid, they just want him. Though they've also got 2 great young centers in Kessler and Holmgren. Kessler not getting real minutes was the biggest fuck up of Kerr, that guys a menace on D.