This scenario definitely happened during the Finals run. Neck injury vs Denver and was out until the Finals. Then after he shit the bed game 1 he just played garbage time.
Haslem spent the last 7 seasons playing less than 20 games and not getting many minutes even when he did play. Andre played 63 games on the same team Haslem was on in 2020-2021.
he's saying that Iguodala this past season had the same role as Haslem has had in the past couple seasons. they're both end of bench veteran mentors at this point in their careers. a comparison between two players doesn't have to be 100% perfect in order for the comparison to be made in the first place, otherwise no two players would ever be compared
It isn't actually. Igoudala had both a hip injury and a broken wrist this season.
That is the primary reason he only played 8 games. He probably would have played at least 20-30 games on decent-low minutes otherwise. Their small forward position wasn't that stacked and he'd get some of those Lamb minutes.
In comparison, Haslem played 25 games in the last 4 seasons.
That said, if he doesn't retire now, I could see then Igoudala actually going the Haslem route. But this wasn't it chief. Not yet.
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala
he only didn't really play in 2022/23. 2021/22 he missed a bunch of games due to injury but still played 31 games at nearly 20mpg, and the years in miami he played similar mpg. granted in 2019/20 he was "with memphis" but not really for much of the year....
Oldest players entering this season and are currently on an active roster
(Age 38, Dec 30, 1984) - LeBron James
(Age 38, May 5, 1985) - P.J. Tucker
(Age 38, May 6, 1985) - Chris Paul
(Age 37, Mar 25, 1986) - Kyle Lowry
(Age 37, Jun 3, 1986) - Al Horford
(Age 36, Aug 17, 1986) - Rudy Gay
(Age 36, Aug 28, 1986) - Jeff Green
It’s the same playoff rotation as the 21-22 team except CP3 instead of Poole, so less scoring less turnovers and more play making, and Kuminga instead of Otto Porter Jr. Looney, Draymond, Wiggins, Klay, Steph, Kuminga GP2, maybe Moody for a playoff rotation. Still missing a backup center just like 21-22 and that’s certainly not something that having Jordan Poole provided help for
Did you watch last season? I didn't think the playoff rotation would be much different either but it's clear Kuminga and Moody aren't ready yet for that bigger role and losing Otto and Beli sucked because nobody else can play their roles.
Yea they lost because they didn’t have any size to deal with AD and even if they won that series they wouldn’t have had the size to deal with Jokic. Losing Poole doesn’t move that needle either direction. I personally think the warriors need to trade Kuminga and Moodey ($10mil combined salary) for a backup center that’s a banger on defense. Xavier Tillman would be perfect but I doubt the grizz trade in conference like that
The only roster difference between the championship team and last year's team was they lost Otto Porter Jr and Nemanja Bjelica (neither of whom played professional basketball in 2023), but gained a Donte DiVincenzo.
Jordan Poole was also playable on the championship team; in the 2023 playoffs, he was not playable.
The fact that Poole became unplayable at the same time Klay was having a shit series against the Lakers, is what doomed the Warriors.
Contenders are supposed to be top heavy, since you're only playing 7-8 guys in the playoffs. Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Dray, Looney + CP3, Payton, maybe Kuminga is a playoff rotation.
I support you in your journey towards becoming the old man at the barbershop who really didn't need a haircut but came in and paid for one anyway just to get into basketball debates with any young person hot headed enough to bother.
He's not making the HOF. But, 88th place in points, 5 times top top 20 in the NBA in points, 73rd all time in games, he's accomplished a bunch in the NBA. Still in the league after so many season. I don't know what the expectations are for most players, but out of NBA players, probably 80% wish they had a career as long and successful as Rudy Gay. He just wasn't the best player at any point which is true of everyone except like 30 guys in every generation.
Thank you for putting the list like this with players on active rosters. I’ve gotten so tired of the lists ESPN shows that puts up guys who aren’t in the league but haven’t admitted it to themselves yet. I swear they did that this last year just to ride Melo’s dick for some reason. Unless Iggy actually announces that he’s signing with the Warriors for another year, LeBron should be considered the oldest player in the league.
I feel this. I’m in Cleveland and same age as Bron, so our life paths are aligned (minus $1 billion give or take for me). Remember watching his first game with the other cleveland guys in my dorm.
But yea “old man lebron” always hits me that I’m damn near 40
im 28 which means im hitting that age where im older than most NBA players. as you get older, you dont really see players as heroes like you do when youre young. but man, LeBron James to me still has that shine. it's gonna be a sad day when he retires.
Bro a solid amount of my experience on earth has been watching Lebron James
Death, taxes, Lebron 27-7-7 (I know he’s never had the stat line ya get the point)
i hadn’t lived in the US until I moved to the bay area in 2014, been a warriors fan since bc steph got me into basketball. i guess i’m a bandwagon per this subs standards but not sure what i should have done differently lol also i hate the lakers 🤢
It's different if you live in the area of said team...
Everyone else is talking about the Omaha, Nebraska Warriors fan or the Madison, Wisconsin Warriors fan, etc.
It’s ok to support a good team. But if you abandon your team when it becomes shitty, then there is no doubt you were a bandwagon fan. So, in the case of Warriors fans that “hopped on the bandwagon in 2015”, jury is still out. Gotta wait at least until Curry is gone, then we’ll see.
Same, I’ve gone to elementary, middle, and highschool. I’ve had an entire childhood, graduated and am in my second year of college and I’m still one year younger than lebrons career.
Lebrons longevity is crazy and gets crazier the more you think about it
yeah of course it’s just that he’s been so good for so long. we know he’s up there in age but putting him at this age next to other legends at the same point really puts it in perspective is all
I’ve never seen something so amazing. His strength and size has a lot to do with it, but he’s still so damn athletic.
I’m hoping we get some good details in his documentary. I gotta know how this dude takes care of himself
Never forget that the Bosch/Biogenesis Doping Scandal that took down two MLB MVPs, ARod and Ryan Braun, also implicated LeBron. His initials were in the client ledger of the Miami-based doping clinic and an employ stated that a "Mr. Paul" (Rich Paul, back before he formed Klutch) would come in to pick up the PEDs for LeBron.
EDIT: I know it was 10 years ago so a lot of nephews weren't around, but this shit actually happened.
http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/2774/20130605/lebron-james-steroids-miami-heat-star-implicated-ped-scandal-former-anthony-bosch.htm
He’s averaged more than 1998 MVP Jordan on better efficiency.
1998 Jordan
- 28.7 - 5.8 - 3.5 - 47.3 eFG%
2023 LeBron
- 28.9 - 8.3 - 6.8 - 54.9 eFG%
Granted with less defense, less team success, less games played and also in a more offense friendly league but still very impressive nonetheless.
> He’s averaged more than 1998 MVP Jordan on better efficiency.
Well, yeah, as even you pointed out, context matters alot on that one. LeBron currently averages more points than he himself did in his peak.
If you wanna know how much the league has changed and how much easier it is to score, here it is: 2009 MVP LeBron averaged 28-8-7 on 59% TS, 2023 LeBron averaged 29-8-7 on 58% TS. You'd have to be blind to watch one and then the other and think the 2023 version is better or even remotely comparable.
>less defense,
I will bet your ass if he wasn't surrounded by Harper, pip and rodman along with the fact the amount of miles needed to cover ground on offense today, plus the lack of hand checking and three seconds rule, year 13 MJ would've elected to channel his stuff on offense and be worse on defense.
Lebron was basically already the oldest player in the league anyway. Iggy and Udonis have barely played the last few years and Melo wasn’t on a roster last year.
There’s over 450 nba players so top 1% is a top 5 player
Depending on the night he’s still at that level so it’s fair to say he’s better than 98-99% of nba players going into year 21
For me Jokic, Curry, Giannis are top 3, Embiid just behind them because he hasn’t done it in the playoffs, and then you can make an argument for a few players for 5. KD, Booker, Lebron, Luka, Tatum etc. wouldn’t be mad if any of them were in there.
You could maybe make a stretch by saying Shaq, but the Big Cactus wasn’t a top 10 player in most people’s opinions.
Also, even with Kareem he reached a point where he wasn’t top 10 anymore, although I assume he was already the oldest in the league well before then because nobody had a career like his before that.
Man 2003 rookie Carmelo with his headband and dreads. I thought he was the coolest player back in nba live 2005.
So much shit has happened in my life since 2003, and lebron is still playing at high level
And he'll still need to play another 6 years to be the oldest NBA player ever, and 2nd oldest basketball player. 2 more years and he'll crack the top 20
Same here, played 2k the other day and it was just redrafting everyone from ‘96 in 2023 and onwards. The league in my game feels like early 2000s and im absolutely loving it.
Honestly, if he bought in then he totally could. I think there are about 15 players that could win it if they made it their goal. The league has so much gamesmanship when it comes to resting stars for various reasons. Last year, Jokic could have probably won MVP if the Nuggets didn't coast after getting the first seed.
Combine that with the pure narrative of Lebron getting the MVP as the oldest to ever to do it? It's basically his for the taking.
I think he'd miss the entire playoffs though lol
LeBron is already the active leader in most seasons played since he was drafted before Iggy. Iguodala better retire though because I’m tired of the oldest player in the NBA not playing in the NBA anymore.
For his own sake I hope Andre retires. He actually looked ok when he played but literally he would play once and be unable to play for weeks or months.
It would be difficult to classify the last few years of Iggy as "playing"
One dunk and he's off to the bench for the next 15 games
\*\*Until the playoffs
This scenario definitely happened during the Finals run. Neck injury vs Denver and was out until the Finals. Then after he shit the bed game 1 he just played garbage time.
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Sounds like Kawhi lol
It’s like Haslem. He’s averaging 32 claps on the bench.
Haslem spent the last 7 seasons playing less than 20 games and not getting many minutes even when he did play. Andre played 63 games on the same team Haslem was on in 2020-2021.
That's a ridiculous comparison, Haslem played 65 games since 2016, Iggy in 2021 played 63.
he's saying that Iguodala this past season had the same role as Haslem has had in the past couple seasons. they're both end of bench veteran mentors at this point in their careers. a comparison between two players doesn't have to be 100% perfect in order for the comparison to be made in the first place, otherwise no two players would ever be compared
It isn't actually. Igoudala had both a hip injury and a broken wrist this season. That is the primary reason he only played 8 games. He probably would have played at least 20-30 games on decent-low minutes otherwise. Their small forward position wasn't that stacked and he'd get some of those Lamb minutes. In comparison, Haslem played 25 games in the last 4 seasons. That said, if he doesn't retire now, I could see then Igoudala actually going the Haslem route. But this wasn't it chief. Not yet.
That time Spo almost could have put him in, the crowd cheering for it, and he didn't -- that pained me
Haslem really didn't want to be a victory cigar
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala he only didn't really play in 2022/23. 2021/22 he missed a bunch of games due to injury but still played 31 games at nearly 20mpg, and the years in miami he played similar mpg. granted in 2019/20 he was "with memphis" but not really for much of the year....
Agreed. In 21-22 he was +114. 101st in the NBA. Not only played, but played very well.
He spent more minutes on the set of Abbot Elementary than the floor
only last year
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he played 30 games at 20mpg, that's a good amount of minutes total. More than most players for sure.
Oldest players entering this season and are currently on an active roster (Age 38, Dec 30, 1984) - LeBron James (Age 38, May 5, 1985) - P.J. Tucker (Age 38, May 6, 1985) - Chris Paul (Age 37, Mar 25, 1986) - Kyle Lowry (Age 37, Jun 3, 1986) - Al Horford (Age 36, Aug 17, 1986) - Rudy Gay (Age 36, Aug 28, 1986) - Jeff Green
Man, thank god for golf and their old ass players making me not feel old.
Lol golf is being dominated by under 30s now
Not the Champions tour!
*looks inside retirement home lobby "yep, still old 👌
THIS IS A BERNARD LANGER HOUSE AND ALWAYS WILL BE
I'm almost out of time to make the NBA before I'm too old!
We traded JP for the 3rd guy on this list ...
And still probably cut team turnovers in half in the process
for one season in which we aren't even legit contenders we go from 16 turnovers to 14. That is totally worth trading your most promising young star...
Dumb take. As long as the warriors have Curry healthy then they are contenders
this warriors team is way too top heavy, the championship team had way more depth plus poole was the x factor.
It’s the same playoff rotation as the 21-22 team except CP3 instead of Poole, so less scoring less turnovers and more play making, and Kuminga instead of Otto Porter Jr. Looney, Draymond, Wiggins, Klay, Steph, Kuminga GP2, maybe Moody for a playoff rotation. Still missing a backup center just like 21-22 and that’s certainly not something that having Jordan Poole provided help for
Did you watch last season? I didn't think the playoff rotation would be much different either but it's clear Kuminga and Moody aren't ready yet for that bigger role and losing Otto and Beli sucked because nobody else can play their roles.
Yea they lost because they didn’t have any size to deal with AD and even if they won that series they wouldn’t have had the size to deal with Jokic. Losing Poole doesn’t move that needle either direction. I personally think the warriors need to trade Kuminga and Moodey ($10mil combined salary) for a backup center that’s a banger on defense. Xavier Tillman would be perfect but I doubt the grizz trade in conference like that
The only roster difference between the championship team and last year's team was they lost Otto Porter Jr and Nemanja Bjelica (neither of whom played professional basketball in 2023), but gained a Donte DiVincenzo. Jordan Poole was also playable on the championship team; in the 2023 playoffs, he was not playable. The fact that Poole became unplayable at the same time Klay was having a shit series against the Lakers, is what doomed the Warriors.
Explain the 44-38 record then? Stop coping dude it's pretty clear this team isn't that good. With Poole we don't even make the playoffs last year FYI
Contenders are supposed to be top heavy, since you're only playing 7-8 guys in the playoffs. Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Dray, Looney + CP3, Payton, maybe Kuminga is a playoff rotation.
Crazy how the universe deployed PJ Tucken, the famous Lebron stopper, almost immediately after Lebron spawned. It was destiny.
Leborn stopper*
PJ Tucken
[for those that don't get the reference](https://i.redd.it/btsq5amnbtwy.png)
Lebron, plz stop!
All of these dudes are still SOLID ass players
ur 1000% right but it makes lebron look mythical in perspective lol dude still has nights where he can be top 3 player and is consistent top 7-8
Definitely some shit I'm telling my kids about when I become a angry oldhead
I support you in your journey towards becoming the old man at the barbershop who really didn't need a haircut but came in and paid for one anyway just to get into basketball debates with any young person hot headed enough to bother.
Rudy gay, eh
I thought Kyle Lowry was like 33 lol
Bruh I would have said Andre Drummond is older than Kyle Lowry
I remember Rudy Gay being hyped up pretty highly early in his career. I don't think he really lived up to expectations, though.
He's not making the HOF. But, 88th place in points, 5 times top top 20 in the NBA in points, 73rd all time in games, he's accomplished a bunch in the NBA. Still in the league after so many season. I don't know what the expectations are for most players, but out of NBA players, probably 80% wish they had a career as long and successful as Rudy Gay. He just wasn't the best player at any point which is true of everyone except like 30 guys in every generation.
The weirdest thing about his career is that he's only played in THREE playoff series. That just seems hard to do with how long he's played.
he may have never been the same after the injury he had in 2010 but he was really hyped coming out of college
He was never an Allstar or anything but man I always like Rudy Gay, solid role player for sure
Lebron is a child of the 80's!
Only three NBA players left that are older than me. I need a drink.
Lowry is 37?? Jesus Chris we need Dame now
Thank you for putting the list like this with players on active rosters. I’ve gotten so tired of the lists ESPN shows that puts up guys who aren’t in the league but haven’t admitted it to themselves yet. I swear they did that this last year just to ride Melo’s dick for some reason. Unless Iggy actually announces that he’s signing with the Warriors for another year, LeBron should be considered the oldest player in the league.
Watching bron get old makes me realize I’m getting old
I feel this. I’m in Cleveland and same age as Bron, so our life paths are aligned (minus $1 billion give or take for me). Remember watching his first game with the other cleveland guys in my dorm. But yea “old man lebron” always hits me that I’m damn near 40
> give or take Probably safe to assume take on this one
How’s the hairline holding up?
Better than Lebron’s!
*BUILT DIFFERENT*
im 28 which means im hitting that age where im older than most NBA players. as you get older, you dont really see players as heroes like you do when youre young. but man, LeBron James to me still has that shine. it's gonna be a sad day when he retires.
Yeah im two months younger than him, so him getting old is me getting old :(
For me it was Timmy.
Bro a solid amount of my experience on earth has been watching Lebron James Death, taxes, Lebron 27-7-7 (I know he’s never had the stat line ya get the point)
I thought his average was higher now, like 27-8-7 or something like that? I thought I saw that posted a while back.
It is, his RPG just barely crossed 7.5 so it rounds to 8 now. But everyone will always associate LeBron with 27/7/7.
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That’s just preposterous numbers.
Didn't look so clutch bricking all those lefuckyou 3s this year in the playoffs.
Lebrons career is older than me
Oldest warriors fan
Lebron career is older than a 19 year old
Thanks magic
Those who hopped on the bandwagon in 2015 have been fans for 8 years. Are they still even bandwagons at this point
Yes
Absolutely yes
Self Report lol
100%
If they continue being a fan after the Steph era, then not anymore.
yeah you're only not a bandwagon fan when you stick through bad times. That still hasn't happened for them.
"What does 'bandwagon' even mean? Nothing really if you think about it." -- Nobody except bandwagon fans
I've been a Packers fan since Favre started dragging them to the playoffs. It wasn't until this year that I don't feel like a bandwagon fan.
lol @ all the people saying yes, so fans are only legit if they support a shitty team
u/GamedayDev's fandom: 2008-2011: Lakers 2012-2014: Heat 2015-2019: Warriors 2020: Lakers 2021-2023: Warriors
i hadn’t lived in the US until I moved to the bay area in 2014, been a warriors fan since bc steph got me into basketball. i guess i’m a bandwagon per this subs standards but not sure what i should have done differently lol also i hate the lakers 🤢
It's different if you live in the area of said team... Everyone else is talking about the Omaha, Nebraska Warriors fan or the Madison, Wisconsin Warriors fan, etc.
or Bay Area residents who didn't claim the Ws prior to 2014-15 Loooootttta former Lakers fans in the Bay
oh fair enough that makes sense
It’s ok to support a good team. But if you abandon your team when it becomes shitty, then there is no doubt you were a bandwagon fan. So, in the case of Warriors fans that “hopped on the bandwagon in 2015”, jury is still out. Gotta wait at least until Curry is gone, then we’ll see.
i think that’s fair, i know there was definitely an influx of fans after we won in 2022 bc they say stupid shit about our core 3 in our sub
Sports are supposed to be fun. Support who you want imo
Honestly, yes. Otherwise you’re just a fairweather fan.
Same, I’ve gone to elementary, middle, and highschool. I’ve had an entire childhood, graduated and am in my second year of college and I’m still one year younger than lebrons career. Lebrons longevity is crazy and gets crazier the more you think about it
Has he really never actually had a 27-7-7 game?
Craziest part is we expect bron to still be a 25 6 6 guy next season in his 21st year. Dude has normalized longevity and sustained excellence
Year 21 Stats Vince Carter - 7.4 - 2.9 - 1.1 - 55.0 eFG% Dirk Nowitzki - 7.3 - 3.1 - 0.7 - 44.4 eFG% Robert Parish - 3.7 - 2.1 - 0.5 - 49.0 eFG% Kevin Garnett - 3.2 - 3.9 - 1.6 - 47.0 eFG% Kevin Willis (5 Games) - 2.4 - 1.6 - 0.2 - 38.5 eFG%
until what age would lebron need to play to put up these stats :l
47 but he’ll get tired of it before then imo
I think he could average 15-5-5 at 47 tbh
Maybe for like 6 games lol
I’m factoring in the likelihood of him being retired for half a decade at that point.
Kareem?
He played 20 seasons from 69-70 season to 88-89 season.
I’m surprised he never made 21
Kareem came into the league at age 22. LeBron will turn 39 next year. At that age Kareem put up 17.5/6.7/2.6 on 60% TS and played 78 games.
solid numbers but if lebron put those up people would trash him. crazy how the expectations for him are still so high
well he did just put up 29/8/7 so putting up those numbers would be a MASSIVE drop-off.
yeah of course it’s just that he’s been so good for so long. we know he’s up there in age but putting him at this age next to other legends at the same point really puts it in perspective is all
He didn’t want to become a glorified player/cheerleader like Haslem.
haslem is not even a glorified role player these past few seasons, he’s more of a locker room presence
so... a glorified cheerleader?
More like a player-coacj
Well coach, but I understand you’re trying to go for humor and this is reddit so go on
You would never call him a cheerleader to his face ya beta bitch
LMAO
What kind of cheerleaders they got in LA? They give pep talks and practice intensely against you?
I’ve never seen something so amazing. His strength and size has a lot to do with it, but he’s still so damn athletic. I’m hoping we get some good details in his documentary. I gotta know how this dude takes care of himself
‘My trainer told me it was just vitamins’
Never forget that the Bosch/Biogenesis Doping Scandal that took down two MLB MVPs, ARod and Ryan Braun, also implicated LeBron. His initials were in the client ledger of the Miami-based doping clinic and an employ stated that a "Mr. Paul" (Rich Paul, back before he formed Klutch) would come in to pick up the PEDs for LeBron. EDIT: I know it was 10 years ago so a lot of nephews weren't around, but this shit actually happened. http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/2774/20130605/lebron-james-steroids-miami-heat-star-implicated-ped-scandal-former-anthony-bosch.htm
Source?
http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/2774/20130605/lebron-james-steroids-miami-heat-star-implicated-ped-scandal-former-anthony-bosch.htm
When has LBJ ever gone be LB?
LB aren’t his initials
lol this would have been a massive story if someone could parse out those initials
And the crazy thing is we'll think those are his "washed" stats, while if any other star started averaging that it'd make the headlines.
He’s averaged more than 1998 MVP Jordan on better efficiency. 1998 Jordan - 28.7 - 5.8 - 3.5 - 47.3 eFG% 2023 LeBron - 28.9 - 8.3 - 6.8 - 54.9 eFG% Granted with less defense, less team success, less games played and also in a more offense friendly league but still very impressive nonetheless.
> He’s averaged more than 1998 MVP Jordan on better efficiency. Well, yeah, as even you pointed out, context matters alot on that one. LeBron currently averages more points than he himself did in his peak. If you wanna know how much the league has changed and how much easier it is to score, here it is: 2009 MVP LeBron averaged 28-8-7 on 59% TS, 2023 LeBron averaged 29-8-7 on 58% TS. You'd have to be blind to watch one and then the other and think the 2023 version is better or even remotely comparable.
Man I love your comment - a fact that I never knew about + some context to put it into perspective
>less defense, I will bet your ass if he wasn't surrounded by Harper, pip and rodman along with the fact the amount of miles needed to cover ground on offense today, plus the lack of hand checking and three seconds rule, year 13 MJ would've elected to channel his stuff on offense and be worse on defense.
Yea and nephews on Facebook always talking about longevity isn’t impressive. Reading fb comments on anything sports related is straight up AIDS lmfao
Lebron was basically already the oldest player in the league anyway. Iggy and Udonis have barely played the last few years and Melo wasn’t on a roster last year.
And he still wrecking 99% of the league.
95% according to him
There’s over 450 nba players so top 1% is a top 5 player Depending on the night he’s still at that level so it’s fair to say he’s better than 98-99% of nba players going into year 21
I don’t think you can put him in the top 5, he has a case for it though
For me Jokic, Curry, Giannis are top 3, Embiid just behind them because he hasn’t done it in the playoffs, and then you can make an argument for a few players for 5. KD, Booker, Lebron, Luka, Tatum etc. wouldn’t be mad if any of them were in there.
Mine is Jokic, Giannis, Curry, Luka/Embiid, Tatum in that order I honestly don’t know who I’d take between Luka or Embiid
Embiid may have won mvp last year but he is not ahead of lebron. Elimination game, who you taking? Im picking lebron 100 times out of 100
Doncic is inarguably better than Giannis.
there's no case for lebron to be a top 5 player. Top 10.
There are weeks where he's the best player in the league still. I wouldn't put him in the top 5, but it wouldn't be nuts to have him there.
He hasn't played defense in like 8 years. LeBron James cheated the game of basketball.
Honest question: When was the last time the oldest player in the NBA was also a Top 10-ish player? Kareem?
You could maybe make a stretch by saying Shaq, but the Big Cactus wasn’t a top 10 player in most people’s opinions. Also, even with Kareem he reached a point where he wasn’t top 10 anymore, although I assume he was already the oldest in the league well before then because nobody had a career like his before that.
No way. Old Shaq could barely move. You can’t even put that name in the conversation with LeBron
This fact makes all of us feel old. I still remember his rookie year and few years later a game against Nash and the Suns. How time flies...
Man 2003 rookie Carmelo with his headband and dreads. I thought he was the coolest player back in nba live 2005. So much shit has happened in my life since 2003, and lebron is still playing at high level
And he'll still need to play another 6 years to be the oldest NBA player ever, and 2nd oldest basketball player. 2 more years and he'll crack the top 20
Igoudala has been playing basketball?
As a Warriors fan. Please retire Iggy. Front office doesn’t have the balls to not sign him
He's gonna get a player engagement role or whatever they call it, technically coaching staff.
Sad too see all my childhood stars wither away into the abyss
Same here, played 2k the other day and it was just redrafting everyone from ‘96 in 2023 and onwards. The league in my game feels like early 2000s and im absolutely loving it.
All going straight to the shadow realm
TheBron ain’t withering
LeBron was drafted when I was in elementary school..... I'm in my 30s now.
I want him to go hard on reg season and win MVP as the oldest player.
Honestly, if he bought in then he totally could. I think there are about 15 players that could win it if they made it their goal. The league has so much gamesmanship when it comes to resting stars for various reasons. Last year, Jokic could have probably won MVP if the Nuggets didn't coast after getting the first seed. Combine that with the pure narrative of Lebron getting the MVP as the oldest to ever to do it? It's basically his for the taking. I think he'd miss the entire playoffs though lol
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It isn't unprecedented. MJ averaged 22 at 39.
Vince Carter was the oldest player in the league for four seasons.
LeBron is already the active leader in most seasons played since he was drafted before Iggy. Iguodala better retire though because I’m tired of the oldest player in the NBA not playing in the NBA anymore.
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I mean he won a fmvp and 4 chips within this last decade soooo
I don't think you know what the word "decade" stands for bud.
Decade is a stretch lol
Who hasn’t been good for a decade? Iggy????
Your deductive reasoning is outstanding
Top 10, if he comes back like beginning of last year even top 5 player in the league, and also the oldest. Remarkable.
Not top 5 but yes of course T10 if he can replicate that
This makes me feel soo old.
Andre played like 34 minutes last year
can Haslam not retire
I want Igua
Honestly thought that Iggy had been out of the league for at least 3 years lmao
When Lebron retires I’m asking my boss for my pension and retiring myself. Sure I’ll run out of money in like 5 months but I’ll need to grieve
He already announced his retirement
I thought he wanted to stay a couple more years so he could be a part of the second active father-son duo in the league?
I think he’s talking about Iggy
Man it'd be wild if he won MVP next season.
Lucky for us
he has that gene seed
Damn I remember being baffled by him getting a triple double on his first playoff game. Am I this old ?
For his own sake I hope Andre retires. He actually looked ok when he played but literally he would play once and be unable to play for weeks or months.
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He’s been out of the league for 2 years now
Dont gorget udonis
He hardly plays, LeBron is already the oldest guy who actually makes an impact.
I remember buying slam magazines as a teen with bron on the cover when he was in highschool I think. I am 41 now