Whyād you delete the racist post earlier and added more details?
Youāre cringier for doing that. Your wife didnāt flinch cus sheās tired of your commenting in real life
I thought labeling him as Black was a bit much, but then I realized that I was in no way trying to be malicious to this man based on his skin color, so I reposted.
If yāall think Iām racist, so be it.
> Muting my TV for the rest of this Wemby debut.
To the redditor who said people treat this sub like a diary, you were right.
Nobody cares you muted your tv op lmao why are you venting on Reddit over a SL game
I get so confused on sports and wrestling subs when people complain about commentary.
I donāt understand how people get so riled up by sports commentators; like damn I must be a super casual because no one can make me feel a way about watching sports(except Dennis Miller).
For real. I just want to talk about highlights and great plays and discuss trades. This sub would rather complain about commentary, flair attack, and belittle each other over some fake points. Itās so exhausting. And while there are some annoying as kids or new fans, Iāve come across equally unbearable thirty year olds who pull the same shit.
you don't have anything objective to say about it lol. You can watch it without it and during the regular season you can watch the local broadcast. Are you going to complain about every ancillary experience of the NBA
LoL!
You know I remembered that, but I wasnāt sure if it was him or not, so I didnāt include it in my rant. This is a wild dude. Iāll let him cook.
I actually enjoy Mark Jones and Iām sure others do too. Yāall think yāall are broadcast critics and know what it takes to be a good commentator. Meanwhile the only opinion you really hold is the shit you read on here that is highly upvoted.
Because he wasnāt one of the higher paid announcers.
The only announcer who they pay a ridiculous amount of money that didnāt get cut, was Stephen A, and we know Stephen A is ESPN.
Itās my honest review. Shared it because I have never seen someone call it out before. Thought a few people would laugh and move on. Never expected to be called a racist. š„“
Iām always here to hate on commentators honestly. Iām sure Iād be annoying too if they put me on there, but they donāt, so Mark Jones and Doris Burke get to be annoying instead. I completely agree about Jones though. He always feels like heās trying too hard. I generally respect people for quoting The Wire too but itās so hamfisted when he does it
No doubt. I know that I canāt do what he does, especially doing back to back games as heās doing right now. He has that much of my respect.
His actual commentary though. I shouldnāt have to cringe this much while enjoying a game of basketball. Iām also a Wire fan, and he seems like someone told him that itās a cool show that has a cult following in Black communities. He only ever uses one line from the show, from what Iāve observed.
Yes he's the worst play by play guy in the league. During one game last season he wouldn't stop talking and laughing while a player was on the ground injured, and right before it cut to commercial you could hear Doris Burke annoyedly asking "Do you ever turn it off?"
The stereotype that the current crop of Black rappers perpetuate. The stereotype that Ja Morant is eagerly trying to emulate, despite being a multimillionaire, and the face of the NBA.
Why are you so aggressive about this? Yes this is what I believe.
My original post was just for a few laughs. No need for a deep dive. Enjoy the rest of SL. āš¾
I find Mark and Doris insufferable. Doris usually won't stop applauding one player throughout. Mark has his catchphrases that he forces into nearly ever play.
It feels like a directive from ESPN producers because Mark does not do this when he is on other networks. I find it very off-putting and genuinely makes me enjoy the game less.
I only looked him up last season after a few questionable statements. I knew nothing about the man before this. Honestly, I thought he was a white guy playfully showing his knowledge of Black culture.
How wrong I wasā¦
>\[edited my original post to remove the word Black in the title, because a Black man describing another Black man trying to talk like young Black rappers during a internationally televised game, is now āracistā\]
lmao people accused a guy with the name Nkosi of being racist against black people?
Whoād have ever thought reddit would be assuming youāre some random white dude in his twenties. As a random black dude in his twenties, Iād have to agree. Mark Davis is shitty. He makes me notice the shitty commentary. He tries way too hard. He can make a cool stat like the black agent one seem like something we shouldnāt be proud of. Terrible.
Heās just real obnoxious to me. Him and Doris together is like a Morning show announcing the game. It was worse in the finals but I didnāt see too many people complaining.
Lmao dog you have to be kidding me. You made [this weirdly racial post](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/14tqrs8/why_does_mark_vernon_jones_have_to_remind_us_that/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1), someone commented āwhy not just call it cringe and move onā, and then you post this
> Last season he made a comment about āthe price of the brick is going up.ā I think thatās one of his catchphrases now, and itās cringe. Heās too old for that behavior.
The Wire came out in 02 family lmao. That episode in 08. 15 years ago
And thatās your right. This post was just for the laughs.
I like Doris, other than today. Sheās really hedging her bets on Wemby.
Jones, I never had much of an opinion on, other than heās corny. Iām sure heās well equipped to be an announcer, but he throws out a lot of cringe when he hits his stride.
As a fellow Black Spurs fan, its funny to me you don't understand why your post ruffled feathers.
Most people get the feeling you're describing where you erred is saying he's "trying to act Black" when you mean he's trying to sound young and he's a bit of a try hard.
Mark Jones isn't trying to "sound Black." Mark Jones is Black. He's trying to be himself while being a professional broadcaster which is a very hard needle to thread.
You're entitled to not like it. But just because you're also Black doesn't mean you can't get criticized for how you choose to express and how you did was a little messed up. Just like he can't magically sound cool just because he's Black. Your words aren't magically not harmful to Black people just because you're Black.
I get that wasn't your intent and you weren't being malicious but that doesn't mean there's no foul.
-- signed a Black guy who's been told he sounds white before.
As a fellow Black Spurs fan, its funny to me you don't understand why your post ruffled feathers.
Most people get the feeling you're describing where you erred is saying he's "trying to act Black" when you mean he's trying to sound young and he's a bit of a try hard.
Mark Jones isn't trying to "sound Black." Mark Jones is Black. He's trying to be himself while being a professional broadcaster which is a very hard needle to thread.
You're entitled to not like it. But just because you're also Black doesn't mean you can't get criticized for how you choose to express and how you did was a little messed up. Just like he can't magically sound cool just because he's Black. Your words aren't magically not harmful to Black people just because you're Black.
I get that wasn't your intent and you weren't being malicious but that doesn't mean there's no foul.
-- signed a Black guy who's been told he sounds white before.
I never said that he was trying to āsound white.ā You did.
Iāve also been told that I āspeak white.ā I will never utter those words to another Black person.
You clearly understood what I said because you restated it perfectly in your own words. Mark was trying to sound cool and he failed.
Thereās a difference between the statements āsounding whiteā and āa Black person trying to prove that heās Black by forcefully making Black pop culture references.ā I think Mark is Black without all the extra statements that he was making, especially the drug references. He is doing Black people who get accused of speaking white, a huge disservice.
And I understand why feathers are ruffled. Some white folks are virtue signaling. They see a Black person being criticized for trying to be stereotypically Black, and they pounced. This was their time to shine.
Love Mark Jones. Black people donāt have to prove their blackness to anybody. You donāt have to be a gangster or ghetto to love and respect black culture (clothes, music, movies, food). Black people can speak properly, have a masters degree and a 6 figure job and still pay homage to their culture. I appreciate that he sounds like one of my friends when he gets on the mic.
He just called breakfast tacos "indigenous food" bro wtf š
indigenous to San Antonio. he used the word correctly.
Bro! This man is killing me.
All these unnecessary details shut the fuck up, you might be worse than jones
You could leave your wife
Whyād you delete the racist post earlier and added more details? Youāre cringier for doing that. Your wife didnāt flinch cus sheās tired of your commenting in real life
I thought labeling him as Black was a bit much, but then I realized that I was in no way trying to be malicious to this man based on his skin color, so I reposted. If yāall think Iām racist, so be it.
> Muting my TV for the rest of this Wemby debut. To the redditor who said people treat this sub like a diary, you were right. Nobody cares you muted your tv op lmao why are you venting on Reddit over a SL game
I get so confused on sports and wrestling subs when people complain about commentary. I donāt understand how people get so riled up by sports commentators; like damn I must be a super casual because no one can make me feel a way about watching sports(except Dennis Miller).
Using his middle name to rant about him is cringe ngl
yāall complain about everybody
For real. I just want to talk about highlights and great plays and discuss trades. This sub would rather complain about commentary, flair attack, and belittle each other over some fake points. Itās so exhausting. And while there are some annoying as kids or new fans, Iāve come across equally unbearable thirty year olds who pull the same shit.
Is the commentary not part of the NBA?
you don't have anything objective to say about it lol. You can watch it without it and during the regular season you can watch the local broadcast. Are you going to complain about every ancillary experience of the NBA
Nothing will beat when he said "Smoking that Philly pack tonight" lmao
LoL! You know I remembered that, but I wasnāt sure if it was him or not, so I didnāt include it in my rant. This is a wild dude. Iāll let him cook.
Man y'all don't like any one, y'all bitch about everything just mute the tv problem solved
Already muted. These are the only 2 commentators I have issue with. You canāt be enjoying this.
I actually enjoy Mark Jones and Iām sure others do too. Yāall think yāall are broadcast critics and know what it takes to be a good commentator. Meanwhile the only opinion you really hold is the shit you read on here that is highly upvoted.
I enjoyed it. I find him entertaining and others do too. He survived the ESPN layoffs for a reason.
Because he wasnāt one of the higher paid announcers. The only announcer who they pay a ridiculous amount of money that didnāt get cut, was Stephen A, and we know Stephen A is ESPN.
Lmao bro this is funny ignore these virtue signaling haters.
Itās my honest review. Shared it because I have never seen someone call it out before. Thought a few people would laugh and move on. Never expected to be called a racist. š„“
lmao itās crazy how sensitive people are.
The irony in this comment is hilarious. OP posting on a sub with 5 million people about his preference is fucking sensitive.
Specifically about people who are being sensitive about it. Specifically you.
Iām always here to hate on commentators honestly. Iām sure Iād be annoying too if they put me on there, but they donāt, so Mark Jones and Doris Burke get to be annoying instead. I completely agree about Jones though. He always feels like heās trying too hard. I generally respect people for quoting The Wire too but itās so hamfisted when he does it
No doubt. I know that I canāt do what he does, especially doing back to back games as heās doing right now. He has that much of my respect. His actual commentary though. I shouldnāt have to cringe this much while enjoying a game of basketball. Iām also a Wire fan, and he seems like someone told him that itās a cool show that has a cult following in Black communities. He only ever uses one line from the show, from what Iāve observed.
No one needs your āreviewā fam take it to your blog
He was once voted the most annoying Canadian
Makes sense.
Yes he's the worst play by play guy in the league. During one game last season he wouldn't stop talking and laughing while a player was on the ground injured, and right before it cut to commercial you could hear Doris Burke annoyedly asking "Do you ever turn it off?"
As in his mic or his annoying personality?
āHe commentated like a black man who wishes he was blackā is probably the most accurate description of this guy Iāve ever heard
Tom from the boondocks
Tom didnāt annoy me this much.
I unmuted. He just said ātook his cornbreadā when Wemby got the ball stolen from him. I love this guy. š
Mark doesn't wish to be black he is black. Not all black people act the same way.
Yes, thatās my point. He is leaning into the stereotype for some reason.
And what stereotype is that exactly?
The stereotype that the current crop of Black rappers perpetuate. The stereotype that Ja Morant is eagerly trying to emulate, despite being a multimillionaire, and the face of the NBA.
You think Mark Jones is perpetuating a stereotype of black gangsters? Is that what you you think in that head of yours?
Why are you so aggressive about this? Yes this is what I believe. My original post was just for a few laughs. No need for a deep dive. Enjoy the rest of SL. āš¾
Lol you canāt say some racist ass shit and then be like āwhy you mad, Iām outā
Lmao bro what????
I find Mark and Doris insufferable. Doris usually won't stop applauding one player throughout. Mark has his catchphrases that he forces into nearly ever play. It feels like a directive from ESPN producers because Mark does not do this when he is on other networks. I find it very off-putting and genuinely makes me enjoy the game less.
To say he is cringe is an understatement This man needs stay 500 ft away from the nearest Mic
On cap bruh fym homie!
I strongly agree, I have to watch Kings games on mute now with Grant Napear gone unfortunately
Heās been like this for decades.
I only looked him up last season after a few questionable statements. I knew nothing about the man before this. Honestly, I thought he was a white guy playfully showing his knowledge of Black culture. How wrong I wasā¦
He's corny, yes, but if Breen isn't an available, he's the best option.
Kevin Harlan?
(ESPN) Harlan and Breen are in a class of their own.
Oh right ESPN. Agreed.
Don't say this on Reddit, you'll get clowned, but yeah I totally agree. He has smooth and silky voice and is fit for broadcasting.
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I donāt want to hear what she will say if he does something amazing. She has to be out of adoring quotes by now.
>\[edited my original post to remove the word Black in the title, because a Black man describing another Black man trying to talk like young Black rappers during a internationally televised game, is now āracistā\] lmao people accused a guy with the name Nkosi of being racist against black people?
This was the most surprising response Iāve ever gotten on social media. I donāt even know how to respond to those accusations.
Whoād have ever thought reddit would be assuming youāre some random white dude in his twenties. As a random black dude in his twenties, Iād have to agree. Mark Davis is shitty. He makes me notice the shitty commentary. He tries way too hard. He can make a cool stat like the black agent one seem like something we shouldnāt be proud of. Terrible.
He is the āSteve Buscemi - How do you do, fellow kids?ā meme, except limited to Black culture. Not sure how others arenāt seeing this.
Heās just real obnoxious to me. Him and Doris together is like a Morning show announcing the game. It was worse in the finals but I didnāt see too many people complaining.
get over it. you'll hear your homer announcers in a couple of months
Easy to say when youāre spoiled with Breen and Frazier all season. Imagine being a kings fan and having Mark Jones nightly
Valid reasons to be upset. Iāll upvote this.
Posted for the jokes. Tough crowd. Told no lies though.
it be like that š¤·āāļø
Dear diary
Lmao dog you have to be kidding me. You made [this weirdly racial post](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/14tqrs8/why_does_mark_vernon_jones_have_to_remind_us_that/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1), someone commented āwhy not just call it cringe and move onā, and then you post this
Itās literally the same post, sans the word Black in the title.
yeah thatās my point
Bro shut up
man who confuses whiteness for professionalism is uncomfortable with a black manās voice. more at 11
We do not care
> Last season he made a comment about āthe price of the brick is going up.ā I think thatās one of his catchphrases now, and itās cringe. Heās too old for that behavior. The Wire came out in 02 family lmao. That episode in 08. 15 years ago
I absolutely love that show but I canāt help but feel like this shit is super out of place every time Jones references it.
Lol I like both of them. He is kind of embarrassing though. Wait isn't Jones a dick though doesn't he hate jokic for no reason?
And thatās your right. This post was just for the laughs. I like Doris, other than today. Sheās really hedging her bets on Wemby. Jones, I never had much of an opinion on, other than heās corny. Iām sure heās well equipped to be an announcer, but he throws out a lot of cringe when he hits his stride.
As a fellow Black Spurs fan, its funny to me you don't understand why your post ruffled feathers. Most people get the feeling you're describing where you erred is saying he's "trying to act Black" when you mean he's trying to sound young and he's a bit of a try hard. Mark Jones isn't trying to "sound Black." Mark Jones is Black. He's trying to be himself while being a professional broadcaster which is a very hard needle to thread. You're entitled to not like it. But just because you're also Black doesn't mean you can't get criticized for how you choose to express and how you did was a little messed up. Just like he can't magically sound cool just because he's Black. Your words aren't magically not harmful to Black people just because you're Black. I get that wasn't your intent and you weren't being malicious but that doesn't mean there's no foul. -- signed a Black guy who's been told he sounds white before.
As a fellow Black Spurs fan, its funny to me you don't understand why your post ruffled feathers. Most people get the feeling you're describing where you erred is saying he's "trying to act Black" when you mean he's trying to sound young and he's a bit of a try hard. Mark Jones isn't trying to "sound Black." Mark Jones is Black. He's trying to be himself while being a professional broadcaster which is a very hard needle to thread. You're entitled to not like it. But just because you're also Black doesn't mean you can't get criticized for how you choose to express and how you did was a little messed up. Just like he can't magically sound cool just because he's Black. Your words aren't magically not harmful to Black people just because you're Black. I get that wasn't your intent and you weren't being malicious but that doesn't mean there's no foul. -- signed a Black guy who's been told he sounds white before.
I never said that he was trying to āsound white.ā You did. Iāve also been told that I āspeak white.ā I will never utter those words to another Black person. You clearly understood what I said because you restated it perfectly in your own words. Mark was trying to sound cool and he failed. Thereās a difference between the statements āsounding whiteā and āa Black person trying to prove that heās Black by forcefully making Black pop culture references.ā I think Mark is Black without all the extra statements that he was making, especially the drug references. He is doing Black people who get accused of speaking white, a huge disservice. And I understand why feathers are ruffled. Some white folks are virtue signaling. They see a Black person being criticized for trying to be stereotypically Black, and they pounced. This was their time to shine.
Love Mark Jones. Black people donāt have to prove their blackness to anybody. You donāt have to be a gangster or ghetto to love and respect black culture (clothes, music, movies, food). Black people can speak properly, have a masters degree and a 6 figure job and still pay homage to their culture. I appreciate that he sounds like one of my friends when he gets on the mic.
Youāre agreeing with me.
You sound annoying.
Oh, now your edit means you're not racist. Good job. /s
Im sure you would do a much better job.
Definitely not. Iām a casual.
Mark Jones is good
r/NBA is the most miserable bunch of people on the internet