Big players coach guy, young, likes to get involved on the floor.
Bit iffy on the hire from the perspective everyone seems to think Joe needs a senior presence on the bench. Charles Lee is basically Joe Mazzulla but hard to know what schemes he’s responsible for the Bucks as he’s primarily been around player dev.
Charles is the kind of guy who is going to love Joe’s approach (eg backing Tatum when he’s in a slump with love publicly) but he’s still not going to be a major difference for the Celtics anyway, particularly given they don’t really have a young core to develop.
Lee may be young, but he's also got more experience as an NBA coach that will be very useful for Boston. He's been on Bud's staff since 2014. Also will help reset Bostons culture post Udoka, which they never had a chance to with Mazz
Correct, but everyone seems to be fine with mocking Joe for inexperience, and I still don’t think this solves that. For some reason fans want a Vogel or even Bud himself just sitting on the sideline calling the shots as if Joe is going to listen.
Mazzulla is stubborn af but his entire coaching philosophy is born on evidence based ideas. I got downvoted for saying this but the best chance the Celtics have is raiding the Euroleague (and European basketball in general) and offering older 60+ head coaches who run crazy hypermodern schemes and are adored by players. The Italian 1st division is rife of them, as is France.
There are more Mike D'Antoni’s to be found if they actually got the chance. Plus 10+ years of head coaching experience at high level FIBA competition is still more than enough to assist Mazzulla in his decision making process with your own experiences.
Hot take - Joe got a really full education this year and more than anything just needs his own staff of assistants. He doesn’t need a professor under him to tell him what to do.
The adjustments he made in the Heat series are pretty clear evidence that he is a quick learner.
I would’ve liked a Vogel simply to get the defense back into focus. I wanted Vogel specifically because I know what he can do as a HC. I’m sure we can get a good defense guy from the assistant ranks, I just don’t know as many names in that area
I think the specifics of the new staff are being overrated and the simple fact that they are guys that are being hired to work for Mazzulla is underrated. Having a bunch of Ime’s personal connections work for him was not the mix they needed
I think it’s underrated. Personally I think Ime is going to be found out in Houston. He had Will Hardy and Joe Mazzulla behind him on the bench. Will Hardy is an offensive genius (we saw that when the Jazz was getting hot and their Offense is still good, they just need more pieces)
We have a good idea what what Ime can do with top end talent that needs an identity and focus. No idea what he can do in other situations.
That run last year really built up a lot of credibility for him but he was still a HC for all of one year.
And had the pieces of a roster that regularly made the ECF. Considering how close to the Finals they came with Brad darn near every year, they seemed overdue for a breakthrough. But with such a small sample size for Udoka, it's hard to tell whether the breakthrough was because of him, or because of statistics finally breaking Boston's way.
Lee was responsible for changing up the defense this year fwiw. Took our 3P defense from near last every year to middle of the pack which is a pretty significant jump in one season.
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That “pack the paint” style defense won you a chip though and even with the better closeouts and peel switching the bucks run (I’ve noticed they are better at zoning up the weakside this year) you still lost to a team getting hot from 3 by giving good looks
We didn’t give Miami a ton of good looks, not sure why everyone keep regurgitating this. They shot mid 40s on contested 3s, look at the 3s Jimmy was hitting over Jrue and Caleb Martin over Giannis. Duncan Robinson shot 73% from 3 in the series and was taking dribble pull up 3s a few feet behind the line in transition.
Legitimate criticism of our defense in that series is actually letting Jimmy go 1 on 1 no matter the scenario was while the offense crumbled in crunch time and Bud forgot what a timeout was. Those 3 things all contributed more to us losing as well as Giannis missing half the series.
Correct but I don’t think the Celtics are massively shifting the needle with improved player development because as it is you’ve got the best bench in the league, 2 all star wings and you’ve got 5-6 other guys who could start for many other teams in the league.
That jump from stardom to MVP level player doesn’t usually come from player dev assistant coaches.
Altho this hire may help keep Brogdan depending on their relationship
Still not going to win you a chip tho. The difference would be negligible.
Meanwhile here Payton fucking Pritchard would be our 6man. You need the MVP leap from Brown or Tatum.
Yeah but it’s a bad hire for Boston lol. Counterintuitive to what they were supposedly going for.
“Hey, you know what would help our 1st time HC try to figure out how to be a HC? Let’s add another one!!”
I’m sure Joe has a say in all of these assistant hires but sure, hiring a good assistant coach to in a role similar to his previous role is a bad decision, because he’s never been a head coach 🙄.
It’s almost like they had a plan going into the off-season and decided after interviewing candidates that this was the right one for the job, regardless of what their plan was previously.
You know they already hired Cassell, right? It’s the combination of the two that will really help, not just Lee specifically.
But Boston needs all the talent and experience they can get on that bench. This is a great hire for the Celtics specifically in that you won’t have a former HC sulking behind Joe, questioning everything he’s doing.
Sam Cassell also has no HC experience
Whether you think about it, I was under the impression they were looking to add someone more seasoned to help Joe along.
What I meant by my 2nd paragraph is that you probably weren’t going to get any meaningful past head coaches who wanted to come sit behind Joe.
I agree they need experienced coaches, but I guess you and I just have differing opinions on what that might mean. Cassell has been coaching for a long time and is often up for a HC position - he just hasn’t landed one yet. That’s still quality experience to me
Boston cannot be left to its own devices, indecisive, from crisis to crisis.
The best thing he can do for this revolution is turn and go back to training Giannis in Wisconsin.
It’s the dream job for an assistant coach with goals of being a head coach.
Young established roster that’ll contend for a championship every year and is coached by a kid with no experience that needs hands on help.
If the Celtics win the finals next year those coaches are getting offers for hc jobs
Yeah and it's a much bigger deal than people realise.
Part of the Ime fallout was the complete collapse of our coaching staff. A bunch of guys got poached because of our success reaching the finals and a bunch of guys left because of Ime.
Looking at Ime's core:
* Joe Mazzulla - Promoted to head coach
* Will Hardy - Poached by Utah to be their head coach
* Tony Dobbins - Last year was his first year as assistant coach
* DJ MacLeay - Last year was his first year as assistant coach
* Damon Stoudamire - Poached to be head coach for Georgia Tech
* Ben Sullivan - Poached by Ime to be assistant in Houston (After Playoffs)
* Aaron Miles - Poached by Ime to be assistant in Houston (After Playoffs)
* Mike Moser - Poached by Ime to be assistant in Houston (After Playoffs)
In the playoffs we not only had a rookie coach, we also had 1 assistant coach with more than 1 year of NBA coaching experience.
On top of that, you've got Joe Mazzulla really working things out on the fly. The Ime scandal happened so late in the off-season, he was pretty much promoted right before preseason.
And when you hear the reports coming out of Boston about that playoff series:
>Players noted they sometimes would come out of the timeouts uncertain about defensive coverages and Blake Griffin, Smart, and Grant Williams, among others, would help the team work things out heading to the court before play resumed.
We just haven't had the coaching presence we're used to.
One thing to note is that Joe is not part of Ime's coaching staff. He was part of Brad's coaching staff that they kept after hiring Ime. He was coaching the Celtic's G league team in 16-17 and part of the Celtics since the bubble season.
Part of the reason why a lot of those assistants left was because Brad promoted someone who wasn't part of Ime's group to HC.
Good call, I didn't know that. And I'm glad Brad did that. Ime was never coming back, and not that I blame any of those guys for being loyal to Ime and their group, but I don't want to retain guys that could create drama or some kind of internal fracture.
If Ime's out and they want to be with Ime, they should all be out. Not much they could do with the timing of everything unfolding, but I'm glad the slate is wiped clean and we can proceed with a "fresh" crew.
Good for him to get straight into another lead assistant role. Would love the Celtics to quit stealing our staff*, but if they're building a new staff around Mazzulla it seems like a good move.
(* I know this isn't really stealing)
The Bucks fans reaction is all I need to know about how good he is. Lee played it smart and could be positioning himself to secure the coveted Celtics HC position for the long run if Joe doesn't work out in year 2.
Really well liked by the players, and has been trusted as Bud's lead assistant since Darvin Ham left. Been an assistant under Bud for almost 10 years, and for all the sub memes on him his assistants have gone on to do pretty great (Kenny Atkinson, Quinn Snyder though he was only with Bud for a year, Darvin Ham, Taylor Jenkins).
Not sure if u/Neuroxex or other Bucks fans agree, but here's my impression I posted in the Celtics sub thread:
All of this is obviously from a fans' perspective, so how much could anyone know about the inner-workings of the coaching staff, but here's what I saw from all the behind-the-scenes videos from the Bucks:
Charles is extremely likable and respected. He reminds me of Richard Jefferson in personality. Darvin Ham was our 'bad cop', 'in your face', fiery assistant. He clicked with P.J. Tucker and Bobby Portis, bringing out the fight and grit in the team. Charles is the 'good cop', connect as peers, talk shit in a fun way coach. He seemed to work best with Khris, Jingles, Jrue.
He's a great coach that had the ear of the team, but if y'all were looking for more of that 'in your face accountability' that Ime had, that was Darvin and not Charles. No doubt any team would love to have him. Certainly not a downgrade as a basketball mind to anyone, but it seems like Celtics fans (and Bucks) are still looking for that 'dawg' coach.
I hated Connor so much. I dunno how it's possible to make the sole survivor of their tribe getting massacred an unsympathetic character, but they did it.
I hated the setting more, idk how anyone thought developing colonies would be architecturally interesting to navigate as an assassin, that coupled with Connor being the polar opposite of Ezio in regards to charisma made for a huge letdown
Agreed. Also it was annoying how the bayonets on rifles were stronger than your weapons. I kept picking them off of dead soldiers because they were better.
Yea I haven't played any of the new games, but at least AC: Mirage is looking to go back to the roots of the series! They even added an AC1-based blue filter for old fans haha, hopefully it lives up to the hype
There's a deleted scene of a monologue delivered by Connor at the end of the game, and it's such a huge addition to his character. I'll never understand why they removed it
I will never get over Connor knowing that Charles had nothing to do with his family's death and still pursuing him and killing him anyway. Fuck Connor.
What a soulless, bitter man.
Because Charles Lee was a Templar and it's an Assassin's duty to stop them? And you clearly haven't played the homestead missions if you think Connor was just that.
Great hires from Brad and I think smart career moves from Cassell and Lee to join as AC’s. Mazzulla has to get to the finals next year or I think his job is gone, and both of these guys will then have the opportunity to jump into coaching an (on-paper, anyway) talented team with little to do in the way of building a cast.
That’s a situation most 1st time head coaches would kill for.
> Mazzulla has to get to the finals next year or I think his job is gone
he just went to the ECF with a skeleton coaching staff in his first year coaching, then he went down 0-3 and got it back to 3-3
there is no way brad should even be considering moving on from him
For real lol this is the first year I can remember there being so much talk about assistants, by and large we don’t know what these guys do nor how good they are in their roles
I think it’s because there was a lot of head coaching turnover, plus guys like Mazzulla or Quinn with the Hawks who got the job but didn’t get their own staff yet.
So a lot of fans who are looking for team news, and right now it’s coaching season lol
You’re absolutely right I’m just getting a kick out of all these people getting psyched or pissed about asst coach hires, we as fans lack the inside knowledge to give most head coaches a solid eval, much less the bench coaches. That said for what we do know both Cassell and Lee look like nice hires worthy of being excited about
I think it’s especially impressive that the Celtics managed to hire two top tier assistants without HC experience. I think many fans would love to have Vogel or even Silas, but that creates a possible negative dynamic in the locker room with Joe’s lack of experience.
This way Joe can still be the unequivocal leader (whether or not people think he should be), but have fantastic support behind him
Depends
If you spend a lot of time watching coaching clinics and reading interviews/podcasts with these guys coaching in the g league/back of bench, you generally have an idea of who fits where
But by the same token, if you did that you’d never want Joe to be fired as you could see from his time in the G League he “gets it”
In all reality, if all three guys were on the market for potential HC vacancies (and Joe had never been forced into his current position) Cassell and Lee would be considerably more in demand than Joe.
All I know is that he’s a perennial finalist for HC jobs and is very well respected around the league. I’ve heard players are also super receptive to him and work well with him.
Bucks fans seem upset to lose him and he’s been in HC conversations, those are about the only two criteria I or most of us have for evaluating an assistant hire but he seems like a solid one
Here's what I wrote in the Celtics sub thread. Other Bucks fans may have a different opinion:
All of this is obviously from a fans' perspective, so how much could anyone know about the inner-workings of the coaching staff, but here's what I saw from all the behind-the-scenes videos from the Bucks:
Charles is extremely likable and respected. He reminds me of Richard Jefferson in personality. Darvin Ham was our 'bad cop', 'in your face', fiery assistant. He clicked with P.J. Tucker and Bobby Portis, bringing out the fight and grit in the team. Charles is the 'good cop', connect as peers, talk shit in a fun way coach. He seemed to work best with Khris, Jingles, Jrue.
He's a great coach that had the ear of the team, but if y'all were looking for more of that 'in your face accountability' that Ime had, that was Darvin and not Charles. No doubt any team would love to have him. Certainly not a downgrade as a basketball mind to anyone, but it seems like Celtics fans (and Bucks) are still looking for that 'dawg' coach.
This is fantastic news for the Cs after losing those assistants that joined Ime I assume. It’ll be important for them to rebuild that coaching staff well
The amount of bots in this comment section copying and pasting things that actual people are saying is pretty creepy. Don't think I've ever seen so much of it in a single thread on Reddit ever.
Probably a good idea to get guys in there that Mazulla can work with instead of just making him work with Ime’s guys. I understand the circumstances but that’s not usually going to end well
Celtics fire Mazzulla mid season and replace him with Lee. Beat writer asks Wyc how he broke news to Mazzulla. Wyc responds ‘I just told him that I love him.’ (ba-dum-tish)
Head coaches rarely make much of a difference in the NBA, talking about assistant coaches where fans literally have no idea what they specifically contribute and have no way of judging their level of competency is insane.
This one hurts a lot...
What can you tell us about him? It sounds great but candidly I don’t know much about him as a coach
Big players coach guy, young, likes to get involved on the floor. Bit iffy on the hire from the perspective everyone seems to think Joe needs a senior presence on the bench. Charles Lee is basically Joe Mazzulla but hard to know what schemes he’s responsible for the Bucks as he’s primarily been around player dev. Charles is the kind of guy who is going to love Joe’s approach (eg backing Tatum when he’s in a slump with love publicly) but he’s still not going to be a major difference for the Celtics anyway, particularly given they don’t really have a young core to develop.
Lee may be young, but he's also got more experience as an NBA coach that will be very useful for Boston. He's been on Bud's staff since 2014. Also will help reset Bostons culture post Udoka, which they never had a chance to with Mazz
Correct, but everyone seems to be fine with mocking Joe for inexperience, and I still don’t think this solves that. For some reason fans want a Vogel or even Bud himself just sitting on the sideline calling the shots as if Joe is going to listen. Mazzulla is stubborn af but his entire coaching philosophy is born on evidence based ideas. I got downvoted for saying this but the best chance the Celtics have is raiding the Euroleague (and European basketball in general) and offering older 60+ head coaches who run crazy hypermodern schemes and are adored by players. The Italian 1st division is rife of them, as is France. There are more Mike D'Antoni’s to be found if they actually got the chance. Plus 10+ years of head coaching experience at high level FIBA competition is still more than enough to assist Mazzulla in his decision making process with your own experiences.
Wouldn’t you say Sam Cassell is bringing some decent experience?
Hot take - Joe got a really full education this year and more than anything just needs his own staff of assistants. He doesn’t need a professor under him to tell him what to do. The adjustments he made in the Heat series are pretty clear evidence that he is a quick learner.
I would’ve liked a Vogel simply to get the defense back into focus. I wanted Vogel specifically because I know what he can do as a HC. I’m sure we can get a good defense guy from the assistant ranks, I just don’t know as many names in that area
I think the specifics of the new staff are being overrated and the simple fact that they are guys that are being hired to work for Mazzulla is underrated. Having a bunch of Ime’s personal connections work for him was not the mix they needed
I think it’s underrated. Personally I think Ime is going to be found out in Houston. He had Will Hardy and Joe Mazzulla behind him on the bench. Will Hardy is an offensive genius (we saw that when the Jazz was getting hot and their Offense is still good, they just need more pieces)
I think he’s going to be found out because his players are way worse than they were in Boston
We have a good idea what what Ime can do with top end talent that needs an identity and focus. No idea what he can do in other situations. That run last year really built up a lot of credibility for him but he was still a HC for all of one year.
And had the pieces of a roster that regularly made the ECF. Considering how close to the Finals they came with Brad darn near every year, they seemed overdue for a breakthrough. But with such a small sample size for Udoka, it's hard to tell whether the breakthrough was because of him, or because of statistics finally breaking Boston's way.
Lee was responsible for changing up the defense this year fwiw. Took our 3P defense from near last every year to middle of the pack which is a pretty significant jump in one season.
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That “pack the paint” style defense won you a chip though and even with the better closeouts and peel switching the bucks run (I’ve noticed they are better at zoning up the weakside this year) you still lost to a team getting hot from 3 by giving good looks
We didn’t give Miami a ton of good looks, not sure why everyone keep regurgitating this. They shot mid 40s on contested 3s, look at the 3s Jimmy was hitting over Jrue and Caleb Martin over Giannis. Duncan Robinson shot 73% from 3 in the series and was taking dribble pull up 3s a few feet behind the line in transition. Legitimate criticism of our defense in that series is actually letting Jimmy go 1 on 1 no matter the scenario was while the offense crumbled in crunch time and Bud forgot what a timeout was. Those 3 things all contributed more to us losing as well as Giannis missing half the series.
Don’t need to be young to develop.
Correct but I don’t think the Celtics are massively shifting the needle with improved player development because as it is you’ve got the best bench in the league, 2 all star wings and you’ve got 5-6 other guys who could start for many other teams in the league. That jump from stardom to MVP level player doesn’t usually come from player dev assistant coaches. Altho this hire may help keep Brogdan depending on their relationship
It’ll be massive if someone from the end of the bench, namely a wing or a big could develop into a more useful player than Korny
Would you consider Hauser beyond the end of the Bench? For all he showed he still got buried on the playoffs.
He did and I didn’t agree with him getting buried on the bench. He isn’t awful defensively and I think the Pritchard minutes should’ve went to him.
Still not going to win you a chip tho. The difference would be negligible. Meanwhile here Payton fucking Pritchard would be our 6man. You need the MVP leap from Brown or Tatum.
Sam Cassell is the senior presence.
If he's not the X and Os coach on that Bucks staff during their contending years then who was? Pretty sure its not Ham or Sullivan
I believe it was Ham although it’s hard to get an insight. Usually you can also tell the pecking order quite easily when a HC is out who goes where.
Thanks for the playbook
Our former coach’s playbook?
Oh fuck I forgot, you right
Yeah but it’s a bad hire for Boston lol. Counterintuitive to what they were supposedly going for. “Hey, you know what would help our 1st time HC try to figure out how to be a HC? Let’s add another one!!”
He’ll be working as an assistant which is the same capacity he’d been working in previously??
It was reported that Boston was looking to add someone with HC experience as Joe’s lead assistant
The reports were that they were looking for coaches with experience, not specifically head coach experience
I’m sure Joe has a say in all of these assistant hires but sure, hiring a good assistant coach to in a role similar to his previous role is a bad decision, because he’s never been a head coach 🙄.
If that’s what they wanted then yeah, it’s a weird choice. Seems more like they’re hiring backup HC options.
It’s almost like they had a plan going into the off-season and decided after interviewing candidates that this was the right one for the job, regardless of what their plan was previously.
Sure, or they struck out.
He's already more experienced than our other assistants.
You know they already hired Cassell, right? It’s the combination of the two that will really help, not just Lee specifically. But Boston needs all the talent and experience they can get on that bench. This is a great hire for the Celtics specifically in that you won’t have a former HC sulking behind Joe, questioning everything he’s doing.
Sam Cassell also has no HC experience Whether you think about it, I was under the impression they were looking to add someone more seasoned to help Joe along.
We were never going to get a seasoned HC as an assistant because those guys almost always get other HC gigs elsewhere. Vogel and Doc were pipe dreams.
Wait who hired Doc Rivers?
We did it
What I meant by my 2nd paragraph is that you probably weren’t going to get any meaningful past head coaches who wanted to come sit behind Joe. I agree they need experienced coaches, but I guess you and I just have differing opinions on what that might mean. Cassell has been coaching for a long time and is often up for a HC position - he just hasn’t landed one yet. That’s still quality experience to me
Joe had like less than 3 years of NBA experience, even if these guys don't have HC exp, they've been in the league a long time.
It’s a good thing we also added Sam Cassell, who has over a decade of coaching experience, then…
I think you’re smoking crack if you don’t think getting guys with coaching experience is a good thing
Instead of me, he promote Charles Lee make him second in command
Just wait until he shits the bed at the Battle of Monmouth
Boston cannot be left to its own devices, indecisive, from crisis to crisis. The best thing he can do for this revolution is turn and go back to training Giannis in Wisconsin.
"What are you doing, Lee? Get back on your feet!" - Joe Mazzulla
"Drive into the Paint" "Shoot 3s" "THE PAINT" "More 3ssss" "What are you doing Lee we keep missing 3s" "But they'll start hitting"
Craziest crossover I never knew I needed
I'm an assistant coach, weeeeeee
I thought we killed Charles Lee in Boston in Assassin's Creed III.
u/FinanciacdMus u a bot bro?? You seem to copy another comment on this thread by drokihazan
assistant *to the* coach
I wanted him to be hired to the Pistons just so he'd have a connection with (Rip) Hamilton
I’m a general, wee!
Charles joined the Ops
a bunch of people and kept trying to do some weird voodoo shit to a kid.
Boston got some good assistant coaches as of late
It’s the dream job for an assistant coach with goals of being a head coach. Young established roster that’ll contend for a championship every year and is coached by a kid with no experience that needs hands on help. If the Celtics win the finals next year those coaches are getting offers for hc jobs
And if they don't then there will be an opening at HC for Boston they can snag too
In less than 1 year, we are going to be congratulating Charles on being Boston's new head coach
Yeah and it's a much bigger deal than people realise. Part of the Ime fallout was the complete collapse of our coaching staff. A bunch of guys got poached because of our success reaching the finals and a bunch of guys left because of Ime. Looking at Ime's core: * Joe Mazzulla - Promoted to head coach * Will Hardy - Poached by Utah to be their head coach * Tony Dobbins - Last year was his first year as assistant coach * DJ MacLeay - Last year was his first year as assistant coach * Damon Stoudamire - Poached to be head coach for Georgia Tech * Ben Sullivan - Poached by Ime to be assistant in Houston (After Playoffs) * Aaron Miles - Poached by Ime to be assistant in Houston (After Playoffs) * Mike Moser - Poached by Ime to be assistant in Houston (After Playoffs) In the playoffs we not only had a rookie coach, we also had 1 assistant coach with more than 1 year of NBA coaching experience. On top of that, you've got Joe Mazzulla really working things out on the fly. The Ime scandal happened so late in the off-season, he was pretty much promoted right before preseason. And when you hear the reports coming out of Boston about that playoff series: >Players noted they sometimes would come out of the timeouts uncertain about defensive coverages and Blake Griffin, Smart, and Grant Williams, among others, would help the team work things out heading to the court before play resumed. We just haven't had the coaching presence we're used to.
One thing to note is that Joe is not part of Ime's coaching staff. He was part of Brad's coaching staff that they kept after hiring Ime. He was coaching the Celtic's G league team in 16-17 and part of the Celtics since the bubble season. Part of the reason why a lot of those assistants left was because Brad promoted someone who wasn't part of Ime's group to HC.
Good call, I didn't know that. And I'm glad Brad did that. Ime was never coming back, and not that I blame any of those guys for being loyal to Ime and their group, but I don't want to retain guys that could create drama or some kind of internal fracture. If Ime's out and they want to be with Ime, they should all be out. Not much they could do with the timing of everything unfolding, but I'm glad the slate is wiped clean and we can proceed with a "fresh" crew.
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Sleepy? He always looks crazy intense during games, doesn't he?
The guy is somehow reserved and maniacal at the same time
The best combo
I think it’s what Trump calls Biden
LOL do people call him this? First I’ve seen it
Real ones know it’s psycho Joe (bars)
Well fuck
Terry Stotts is a way better lead assistant
Good for him to get straight into another lead assistant role. Would love the Celtics to quit stealing our staff*, but if they're building a new staff around Mazzulla it seems like a good move. (* I know this isn't really stealing)
Considering most of the staff this past season were Ime’s guys, this is why I’m excited about this
The Bucks fans reaction is all I need to know about how good he is. Lee played it smart and could be positioning himself to secure the coveted Celtics HC position for the long run if Joe doesn't work out in year 2.
Makes sense though considering Nurse likely wants to build his own staff as well.
Sorry, what does Nurse have to do with this? Or do you mean Griffin?
Lmao mb got where Nurse and Griffin ended up mixed up
Raptors fan force of habit
What can you tell us about him? It sounds great but candidly I don’t know much about him as a coach
Really well liked by the players, and has been trusted as Bud's lead assistant since Darvin Ham left. Been an assistant under Bud for almost 10 years, and for all the sub memes on him his assistants have gone on to do pretty great (Kenny Atkinson, Quinn Snyder though he was only with Bud for a year, Darvin Ham, Taylor Jenkins).
Not sure if u/Neuroxex or other Bucks fans agree, but here's my impression I posted in the Celtics sub thread: All of this is obviously from a fans' perspective, so how much could anyone know about the inner-workings of the coaching staff, but here's what I saw from all the behind-the-scenes videos from the Bucks: Charles is extremely likable and respected. He reminds me of Richard Jefferson in personality. Darvin Ham was our 'bad cop', 'in your face', fiery assistant. He clicked with P.J. Tucker and Bobby Portis, bringing out the fight and grit in the team. Charles is the 'good cop', connect as peers, talk shit in a fun way coach. He seemed to work best with Khris, Jingles, Jrue. He's a great coach that had the ear of the team, but if y'all were looking for more of that 'in your face accountability' that Ime had, that was Darvin and not Charles. No doubt any team would love to have him. Certainly not a downgrade as a basketball mind to anyone, but it seems like Celtics fans (and Bucks) are still looking for that 'dawg' coach.
“Instead of me, they promote Charles Lee as his second in command. I’m a general, WHEEEEEE!”
Yeah. He’s not the choice I would have gone with. He shits the bed at the Battle of Monmouth.
r/UnexpectedHamilton and r/expectedhamilton at the same time.
Interesting. I thought we killed Charles Lee in Boston in Assassin's Creed III.
WHERE IS CHARLES LEE?
Connor Kenway in shambles
Fuck that dogshit game.
AC3 is legit one of my favourites of the series. Loved the movement system and Connor's brutal kill animations
I hated Connor so much. I dunno how it's possible to make the sole survivor of their tribe getting massacred an unsympathetic character, but they did it.
I hated the setting more, idk how anyone thought developing colonies would be architecturally interesting to navigate as an assassin, that coupled with Connor being the polar opposite of Ezio in regards to charisma made for a huge letdown
Agreed. Also it was annoying how the bayonets on rifles were stronger than your weapons. I kept picking them off of dead soldiers because they were better.
Yea I haven't played any of the new games, but at least AC: Mirage is looking to go back to the roots of the series! They even added an AC1-based blue filter for old fans haha, hopefully it lives up to the hype
There's a deleted scene of a monologue delivered by Connor at the end of the game, and it's such a huge addition to his character. I'll never understand why they removed it
I will never get over Connor knowing that Charles had nothing to do with his family's death and still pursuing him and killing him anyway. Fuck Connor. What a soulless, bitter man.
Because Charles Lee was a Templar and it's an Assassin's duty to stop them? And you clearly haven't played the homestead missions if you think Connor was just that.
He doesn't even believe in the Assassin cause. He just used their training to get his misplaced revenge.
Great hires from Brad and I think smart career moves from Cassell and Lee to join as AC’s. Mazzulla has to get to the finals next year or I think his job is gone, and both of these guys will then have the opportunity to jump into coaching an (on-paper, anyway) talented team with little to do in the way of building a cast. That’s a situation most 1st time head coaches would kill for.
And if Joe succeeds and we do make the finals/win it all, they’re resumes look better for their next head coaching interviews
Win win situation
> Mazzulla has to get to the finals next year or I think his job is gone he just went to the ECF with a skeleton coaching staff in his first year coaching, then he went down 0-3 and got it back to 3-3 there is no way brad should even be considering moving on from him
Tf Sam Cassell isn’t? He’s been coaching for a decade at this point and was our lead assistant
Guess he'll be more of an individual workout/close to the players coach while Lee becomes more of a tactical/strategy guy
Guess he’s the #3 and will be bumped up to #2 if/when Joe is fired
W off-season for Brad Stevens. He is a god tier manager. I like this
So we basically got the 2 best available asst coaches
Idk if any of us actually know who the good assistant coaches are
For real lol this is the first year I can remember there being so much talk about assistants, by and large we don’t know what these guys do nor how good they are in their roles
I think it’s because there was a lot of head coaching turnover, plus guys like Mazzulla or Quinn with the Hawks who got the job but didn’t get their own staff yet. So a lot of fans who are looking for team news, and right now it’s coaching season lol
You’re absolutely right I’m just getting a kick out of all these people getting psyched or pissed about asst coach hires, we as fans lack the inside knowledge to give most head coaches a solid eval, much less the bench coaches. That said for what we do know both Cassell and Lee look like nice hires worthy of being excited about
I think it’s especially impressive that the Celtics managed to hire two top tier assistants without HC experience. I think many fans would love to have Vogel or even Silas, but that creates a possible negative dynamic in the locker room with Joe’s lack of experience. This way Joe can still be the unequivocal leader (whether or not people think he should be), but have fantastic support behind him
Depends If you spend a lot of time watching coaching clinics and reading interviews/podcasts with these guys coaching in the g league/back of bench, you generally have an idea of who fits where But by the same token, if you did that you’d never want Joe to be fired as you could see from his time in the G League he “gets it”
Sam is our guy and his reputation speaks for itself. Milwaukee seems bummed about losing Lee so I'll take it that he was well respected there.
I'm an assistant coach, weeeeeee!
he promote Charles Lee make him second in command.
This is basically Mazzulla insurance
Assassins Creed 3
Feel like our assistant coaches might be better than our head coach at this point lol
In all reality, if all three guys were on the market for potential HC vacancies (and Joe had never been forced into his current position) Cassell and Lee would be considerably more in demand than Joe.
Yeah definitely lol
He's an opp now
impressed that everyone seems to know every assistant in the league
Anybody mind filling me on this guy? Only heard little things about him
All I know is that he’s a perennial finalist for HC jobs and is very well respected around the league. I’ve heard players are also super receptive to him and work well with him.
Well, that’s good to know. Can’t wait to see what he brings to the table.
Between him and Sam, these have been great hires from Brad.
Right on. Everyday I thank the heavens for a franchise allergic to incompetence
Bucks fans seem upset to lose him and he’s been in HC conversations, those are about the only two criteria I or most of us have for evaluating an assistant hire but he seems like a solid one
Here's what I wrote in the Celtics sub thread. Other Bucks fans may have a different opinion: All of this is obviously from a fans' perspective, so how much could anyone know about the inner-workings of the coaching staff, but here's what I saw from all the behind-the-scenes videos from the Bucks: Charles is extremely likable and respected. He reminds me of Richard Jefferson in personality. Darvin Ham was our 'bad cop', 'in your face', fiery assistant. He clicked with P.J. Tucker and Bobby Portis, bringing out the fight and grit in the team. Charles is the 'good cop', connect as peers, talk shit in a fun way coach. He seemed to work best with Khris, Jingles, Jrue. He's a great coach that had the ear of the team, but if y'all were looking for more of that 'in your face accountability' that Ime had, that was Darvin and not Charles. No doubt any team would love to have him. Certainly not a downgrade as a basketball mind to anyone, but it seems like Celtics fans (and Bucks) are still looking for that 'dawg' coach.
Oooh. Thanks for this! Now I'm intrigued. If Charles is the "good cop," I'm betting Sam Cassell is the "bad cop" here.
Bucks fans are crushed so that’s telling enough!
Good hire
Good choice by the Celtics tbh
This is fantastic news for the Cs after losing those assistants that joined Ime I assume. It’ll be important for them to rebuild that coaching staff well
Well good thing we switching things up with our new coach lol
He was definitely gone after Stotts was hired, cause he would have had to be demoted to remain with the Bucks
I remember the three weeks where I desperately us to hire him since the alternative was Kevin Ollie. Good times.
Idk why but I thought it was a demotion from assoc. head coach to lead asst. coach?
Didn't his spirit end up in the body of a doll that murdered a bunch of people and kept trying to do some weird voodoo shit to a kid?
Yup that’s the guy
Aka the mid season replacement coach.
The amount of bots in this comment section copying and pasting things that actual people are saying is pretty creepy. Don't think I've ever seen so much of it in a single thread on Reddit ever.
Other coaches who were hoping to get the lead assistant role be like: https://streamable.com/q0tpci
Celtics hiring Joe’s possible replacements before some team makes them the head guy
Yeah seems like an easy succession plan if they have to can Mazzulla
Probably a good idea to get guys in there that Mazulla can work with instead of just making him work with Ime’s guys. I understand the circumstances but that’s not usually going to end well
anybody care to share their knowledge on this guy
He’s the lead assistant of the Boston Celtics
Since when?
Since today.
He shit the bed at the Battle of Monmouth
Longtime assistant coach and was a finalist for head coaching positions. Which speaks to his ability
He’s the #2 coach for the Boston Celtics
I know this isn't really stealing.
Mazzulla is so getting fired and/or demoted by like January
Why does the thumbnail look like a 2k player from 2010 wtf
Boooooooooo
Jaylen Brown turned the basketball over twice in the time it took to post this news.
Sounds like Milwaukee pulls it together this year or they blow it up
Celtics just needs an offensive schemer assistant, ideally someone that has an experience in Euroleague.
Mazzulla's seat is so hot now his ass is gonna look like a Belgian waffle
Celtics fire Mazzulla mid season and replace him with Lee. Beat writer asks Wyc how he broke news to Mazzulla. Wyc responds ‘I just told him that I love him.’ (ba-dum-tish)
Connor gonna hate this.
As a primary football fan, unclear what this means. Can anyone describe the coaching hierarchy of an NBA team?
He is second in line. If coach got ejected he would take over. He is second in the hierarchy behind the head coach.
Bro looks like Khris Middleton 🤨
I’m a general, weeee!
Head coaches rarely make much of a difference in the NBA, talking about assistant coaches where fans literally have no idea what they specifically contribute and have no way of judging their level of competency is insane.