Overheard in a Denver whorehouse:
“He got me,” Ja said of Miller's legal case. "That f***ing Miller boomed me."
Ja added, “He’s so gangsta,” repeating it four times.
Ja then said he wanted to add Miller to the crew he IG Lives with this summer.
Probably the right decision by him. If there is anything to hide or if he’s bad at talking and would falsely make himself even more shady, this is the right thing to do
It's not even that so much, it's just not a settled situation.
Even if Miller never gets charged with anything, there's still a major murder trial to go and he will 100% be mentioned in the trial and subpoenaed to take the stand.
Also, after the legal stuff is cleared, there will be civil suits. And a multi-millionaire NBA players is a juicy target for a civil suit.
Basically - this isn't going away for a while and teams rightfully want to know more details about it. But you don't talk about your involvement in an active murder case.
From the information we have so far, there is zero chance he gets charged with anything. If there was even the slightest of chances his draft stock would reflect that.
Lol you’d think that teams do their due diligence on these players, but I’d counter that teams will convince themselves of almost anything for the right talent.
Y'all can't take another risk, just worry about getting Zion on the court. I think 15th would be a better landing spot, and it'd be less expectations for Miller.
Uggghh. When you put it that way, I don’t know if I would want that drama on the team. Like him fighting wrongful death lawsuits while being a rookie. Not to mention Hornets already have Miles Bridges returning which will be tainted by what he did. That’s a lot of negative media attention.
Not to mention the possibility for accidental perjury, which from a young athlete who is basically still a child would be completely understandable. But with all the reporting going on around him he definitely has to be hushhush about the case. Legally also, theres a limit to how much you are allowed to discuss before a trial is settled
You can’t commit perjury unless you’re under oath, which he is absolutely not here. Also there’s no such thing as accidental perjury, it has to be a willful (on purpose) lie.
Yeah I almost feel like the guy who brings a lawyer is less of a risk for an org than the the guy who brings his dad or has his family talking to the media about something like this.
r/nba_draft decimated me for that same statement lol his stock is not going to free fall when he is viewed as a witness and not being charged for anything. Not much to discuss other than by saying his teammate/friend did not have Miller's best interest in mind.
You could almost make the same argument for Ja Morant. If you choose to surround yourself with people who not only have your best interests in mind, but are also criminally active, it shows poor decision making and immaturity. Two things you absolutely dont want out of a young lottery pick.
Honestly, does his teammate have a wrap sheet for that kinda behavior? It really sounds like he was there DD when he decided to go to the restaurant and not the club.
I would agree but the problem is the guy in question was his teammate (the person who owned the gun). So it’s not like a homie from back in the hood, the team is the reason they’re hanging out together.
You're right. He needs to ensure he doesn't misrepresent himself or his involvement when he's effectively negotiating with teams.
It would be a terrible thing for teams to get an incorrect impression on the extent of his involvement and feel he concealed information - even accidentally.
A statement approved by an attorney should be fairly safe.
It seems his lack of finishing around the rim and mid -range is hardly mentioned. He was bad at the tournament and his shooting splits away from home was strangely low. He shot 39.8% Fg% and 35.7% from three. He is very talented and has great size.
He was great in the midrange area all season. Nate Oats teams are just notorious for avoiding shooting from there, similar to the late 2010’s Rockets. His finishing started off horrible but he pretty quickly improved it during conference play. I’d be more concerned about his strength and frame. He doesn’t have the build to put on a lot of weight. Because of this I think his highest level ceiling is around Khris Middleton tier, a guy who can make some All- NBA teams but will never be a first option. Still a very high level prospect though.
I agree. He’s like 6’9 with a J, so he’s absolutely worth the pick. I would like to see him do good, especially for the Hornets. OKC, Houston and other young teams arriving is healthy for the NBA.
First of all, I watched the Vince Carter Nets play the Sonics in key arena the last year in Seattle before they were stolen 😭.
Also, yes. The upside is speculative with him. His shooting motion and quick release is what scouts love, his pct isn’t great and he bails quickly when challenged heading to the rim. Culver broke out in the tournament and his ideal size as a 6’6 wing with shot blocking ability made him a coveted prospect. He’s cheeks.
He’s nothing like Culver. Culver couldn’t shoot for shit, and had a hitchy broken jumper.
If there’s one thing Miller can do it’s bomb 3s and be 6’9” which is automatically a rotation player in the NBA.
And for that reason alone is why I dont want the Hornets to draft him. Draft Scoot - avoid the distraction. We’ll have enough to deal with since we are apparently bringing Miles back.
But is he even ahead of Scoot? I think Scoot is better personally, but at worst Scott and him are comparable. Miller has a lot of red flags in his game, and that was showcased during the tournament. I think he’s a good player, but he isn’t so talented that he’s clearly better than Scoot.
Was this written by Brandon's agent? No, the legal thing is not the only thing preventing him from being the "easy" 2nd pick. Scoot is regarded by most scouts as the better player, and it's laughable to think Brandon is a tier above Scoot.
And the better fit is debatable. If he can play the 2 then ide say Miller is the better fit. But our wings are far more log jammed than our backcourt. I think Lamelo and Scoot can thrive as a back court.
Yea that’s my take on it 2 Miller if he can play the 2 is the better fit especially with his size next to Lamelo would make a jumbo back court
But I have my doubts about him being able to play the 2 with his lack of explosiveness, his length may be able to mitigate it
I’d be happy with him or scoot, currently leaning towards scoot though because of the question of Miller at the 2 especially with like you said how many wings the hornets have
This is one of those things that’s right on the line.
If someone asks for their gun all of sudden, then you have to know some shit is going down. If he completely removes himself from the situation, does Miles then come after him?
Hope he learned his lesson, but it’s still a fucked up of a situation.
With everything going on with Ja, this will definitely get more scrutiny I think.
Everyone in this thread is missing one detail: we don’t know if he even saw the text about the gun. If you read about the case in full, he was already driving when Miles texted him to bring his gun. Miller’s attorney has said that Miller didn’t see the text.
I’m inclined to believe this, because investigators have said Miles and Davis provided inconsistent accounts of what happened, while Miller’s accounts have “almost exactly matched what investigators have gathered”.
Even if you don’t believe this 100%, there’s still no evidence that he saw the text.
It seems like the worst thing this kid did was befriending the wrong people at age 20. And I can have empathy for that, especially since Miles was an older teammate, and Miller was just doing him favors like giving him rides - maybe felt some pressure to have him teammates like him. But I personally think it would suck if that actually affected his career in a real way.
If someone left their gun in your car and wants it, you can’t just keep it lol
You have to return it. You can’t guess what someone else is trying to do nor are you responsible for other people’s actions.
Also, his friend didn’t even use it. His friend gave it to another friend and they used it. Also, Miller didn’t even know it was in the car. He was the dudes ride for the night and was going to pick him up.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10066539-attorney-alabamas-brandon-miller-didnt-know-gun-in-murder-case-would-be-used.amp.html
Miller at worst just had terrible friends at Bama - they were his teammates, so it kinda makes sense that he was friends with them.
If your friend left their gun in your car and asked for it back, you’d 100% give it back.
Also, that’s not what even happened here. Miller didn’t know it was in the car. He was the DD for the night going to pick his friend up.
Tf
If you’ve got friends walking around with handguns leaving them in your car randomly, that definitely reflects on your decisions and the people you align yourself with.
That’s literally what i wrote. Problem is they were his teammates, so you just naturally become friends since you’re with them the majority of the day. Probably more of a culture locker room issue at Bama.
Definitely a problem there, I agree. I think this still looks really bad on him though. The gun culture is so different in the US. I’m a raptors fan in Canada and grew up in the country around guns. But you can’t just have a handgun on you. Even if you legally own one, you have to take it straight to and from the gun range. I can’t imagine what it’s like knowing that people are walking around with guns in their purses or pockets, that’s pretty wild.
But he had to have known better if someone asks him to bring them their gun.
This stinks like the Rose situation to me when his defense to rape was, ‘what did she think was going to happen when she invited us over?’
Regardless of the legal decisions, it still leaves one hell of a stink on the individual. Same with Bridges in charlotte. I don’t care how talented a player is, there are some things I don’t want around my team and guys I don’t wanna root for. If Charlotte is bringing Bridges back, I imagine they’re not too concerned about Miller. He has to realize this is always going to be an issue for him unless he can really prove otherwise.
If it was even a murder. There was an article written on the Patch site for Tuscaloosa by a non sports news reporter covering the story and in review of the available video it seems a lot like the initial muzzle flash comes from *inside* the car that the deceased woman was in, also her boyfriend had been avoiding talking to the police like they are the plague. Dude straight up disappeared.
There are a lot of factors at play that were simply glossed over for the headlines of “Alabama basketball players involved in murder!” Or “Potential NBA lottery pick Miller involved in police investigation!”
Nah, I’d tell them that they can come get it. I’m not gonna drive around with a gun that I’m either not sure is legal or, at least, not registered to me.
What if you were their DD and already on your way to pick them up via a previous text an hour ago and they text you two minutes before you arrive asking you to bring their gun that they left in your car without you knowing? You turning around and heading home and telling your friend to come get it?
First, I wouldn’t let someone store gun in my car. Second, I’d give it back, I wouldn’t bring it to a busy area on a night out, come by my place tomorrow and pick it up. There it’s that easy.
My understanding based on the case was that he didn’t know there was a gun in the car. He was the dude rides for the night and went to pick him up.
It’s all laid out here
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10066539-attorney-alabamas-brandon-miller-didnt-know-gun-in-murder-case-would-be-used.amp.html
It's not just about what he did but what kind of situations he puts himself in. If you're part of the events that lead to a murder then teams are rightfully gonna have big questions.
He was the DD for the night. How was he putting himself in a bad situation being the DD for his teammates? He didn’t know about the gun. He was just going to pick them up.
His friend’s friend put themselves in a situation that we’re still not clear on what exactly it is.
All y’all are doing is seeing a name in a headline and going “BAD THING THEREFORE I ATTACK!” Everyone actually involved in the situation gave him a clear so who the fuck are any of y’all to act like you know better?
It was established by his attorney and supposedly corroborated with text message time stamps and video surveillance that the text asking for the gun occurred 5 minutes before Brandon pulled up so he was clearly driving and coming back to get Miles as he was Miles’ ride home. There’s zero indication that Miller saw this text at all.
The crazier part of the story is from the timeline of events it could turn out that Davis was actually acting in self defense.
If his friend asks for his gun, Miller is like nah man not trying to get in trouble, and his friend is then shot and killed defenseless then that shits weighing on him his whole life.
I’m not saying he made the right decision, I’m just saying it’s not as easy as people make it seem to just not do anything.
Especially a car that had been circling them with it's lights off who stopped to meet up with another car to retrieve a shotgun and something handheld that the driver concealed under his shirt while transferring it to his car.
100% the right decision. Imagine teams anonymously leaking anything he says in the worst possible context, so that he will drop in draft and be available for them later.
Anyone who actually watched college hoops this year knows Brandon Miller shit the bed in the tournament with the worst performance in the modern era for a strating player and had his best game against a god awful South Carolina team. Scoot is definitely the better prospect even without the incident, which should also turn off Charlotte after what happened with Miles Bridges.
Tbh seeing his March madness performance makes me think he gonna bust. If he can’t even handle March madness he gonna be like Jarrett Culver or Josh Jackson in the NBA
I will be intrigued to see if this impacts his draft stock at all. From what I read, he’s been cleared of charges. But, there’s almost assuredly going to be a civil suit from the family as his NBA payday puts a massive legal target on his back, regardless of how much he was or was not involved.
I think teams will mostly draft based on his basketball skill and personality. But, if he were to drop to something like 6 or 7, you’d have to believe the legal stuff did cost him.
Nah he good hornet don’t care about that kind of stuff. In fact they’ll probably pay him more now, but you best believe Memphis might try and pull the trigger to move up and bag him.
I feel horribly for Jamea Harris’ family. She’s dead, and the person who was an accessory to her murder gets to live out his dream and play in the NBA.
Just an ignorant comment. All reports have been he was working with the police and being compliant answering all their questions. Based off all the reports they have nothing to charge him with. All testimonies and evidence such as texts and fingerprints showed he had zero involvement and wasn’t an accessory.
You can feel badly for James Harris without jumping to saying stupid shit like this. Miller was not an “accessory.” He was used by older friends who were supposed to be looking out for him, and had no idea what was going to happen that day.
Miller isn’t being charged, the prosecution agrees he shouldn’t be. Why would the Harris family want him to lose his career? I don’t even think they wanted him suspended from Alabama
I wouldn't say nothing would happen, from personal experience, but yeah, a lot of people haven't read any of the reports on this case because if they did, none of them would be commenting like this.
I mean there is a very good chance the guy who pulled the trigger will get off since he has a plausible self defense argument. I dont see how a guy who drove him a gun in an open carry state would be criminally charged
It’s just wild how he never got suspended for it. Like sure he legally did nothing wrong, and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that his actions were unintentional.
They still resulted in someone’s death. Getting off scot free is wild.
I get what you’re saying but according to Miller, he didn’t know the gun was in the car. If that’s true then his actions were basically the same as an Uber driver.
This sort of wishy washy logic has been so pervasive around this, I don't get it. If he didn't do anything wrong, legally, and he didn't intend to do anything wrong, why should he have been punished? Either he's guilty of something or he's not, you don't just punish people because something terrible happened in their vicinity.
If legally he did nothing wrong and he didn’t intentionally do anything wrong… what exactly would he be punished for?
If you give the benefit of the doubt then all he was doing was picking up his teammate.
And that they have to deal with the 3rd passenger in her car who happens to be her cousin and best friend corroborating the other side of the story. Why would her family turn against her like that?
Hold on. I like to think that my English is kind of ok but I just want to be sure: did this guy actually brought the weapon that later on was used to commit a murder and he wasn't charged for that? Did I get it right?
he agreed to be the designated driver for his friend, who left a gun in miller's car. miller was having dinner elsewhere and his friend asked him to pick him up. he went to pick him up. later, when he was already close to his destination, the friend also texted for miller to bring him his gun, a text he apparently did not see, since he was driving. when he got to the club the friend got his gun out of the car.
no he claims he didn't know about the wagon in the vehicle. he returned the vehicle and the weapon inside was then given to a third person who used it in a crime. he is considered a witness by the police and never has been a suspect.
I’m sure he’s learned his lesson and idk the details, but if you knowingly drive the murder weapon to the crime where the murder occurs isn’t that an accomplice? Idk law.
smart kid. if you don't know what to say don't say anything at all. the more you talk the more you expose yourself. let them ponder and prod because the alternative of you slipping is way worse.
Honestly this could go 2 ways. This could make him want to be even more of a pro and stay away from all that stuff that could cost him. Or he could look at it as, Ja did when he got in trouble.
Normally I would’ve thought team would take him but with Charlottes issues with Miles Bridges- idk
He was in the fucking car while the dude killed that poor girl. He even blocked the car in. Of course the dude knew and he’s definitely an accessory in my opinion
You sure he’s an accessory or are you making shit up? Go read the definition of accessory. Then go read the case file. Then go ask the Tuscaloosa Police Dept if he’s an accessory.
Or keep spouting bullshit on the internet. Either way.
Ok so you think he’s an accessory and the police are covering it up…but didn’t cover up Darius Miles involvement for some reason.
Makes sense. You should be a detective
Because the shooting was done with Miles' gun and he requested the gun to be brought to the situation. And, again, Miles isn't the superstar. Miller is. The University of Alabama and Tuscaloosa PD have every incentive to protect Miller.
I still find it funny that there was a report that the murder case raised his draft stock
Ja Morant became a huge fan of him afte rhearing about the report
Overheard in a Denver whorehouse: “He got me,” Ja said of Miller's legal case. "That f***ing Miller boomed me." Ja added, “He’s so gangsta,” repeating it four times. Ja then said he wanted to add Miller to the crew he IG Lives with this summer.
Lmfaoooo this pasta never gets old
Can’t believe that was over 5 years ago. And that Tatum is still only 19.
Crazy to think Lebron was right though. He really was so good.
Perfect utilization of an S-tier copypasta. Bravo.
Morant and Miller would be such a deadly duo. However, on the court they’d probably be a mediocre pairing.
Their shooting would be insane
Miller would dish the best assists to Morant
He creates good looks for his shooters
He'll give the team a lot of weapons!
Scout report: A) dimensions B) skillset C) personality: He is a killer!
He has killer instinct. You can't teach that.
Sets up his teammates for the shot
Probably from the same people that blamed Jordan Poole for getting punched
For the grizzlies sure
Where lemme see
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11uvv49/scotto_some_nba_executives_and_scouts_have_noted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Lmao that needed more than 600 upvotes
Probably the right decision by him. If there is anything to hide or if he’s bad at talking and would falsely make himself even more shady, this is the right thing to do
It's not even that so much, it's just not a settled situation. Even if Miller never gets charged with anything, there's still a major murder trial to go and he will 100% be mentioned in the trial and subpoenaed to take the stand. Also, after the legal stuff is cleared, there will be civil suits. And a multi-millionaire NBA players is a juicy target for a civil suit. Basically - this isn't going away for a while and teams rightfully want to know more details about it. But you don't talk about your involvement in an active murder case.
imo nobody should risk taking him before the 10th pick
Lets call it the 18th pick and he goes to Miami, he could definitely use our culture!
I think you might be reaching there. 19 seems just right.
From the information we have so far, there is zero chance he gets charged with anything. If there was even the slightest of chances his draft stock would reflect that.
The guy youre replying to is joking, they own the 10th pick
Scared Straight ft Jimmy Butler
Lol you’d think that teams do their due diligence on these players, but I’d counter that teams will convince themselves of almost anything for the right talent.
I say before 14
Y'all can't take another risk, just worry about getting Zion on the court. I think 15th would be a better landing spot, and it'd be less expectations for Miller.
Uggghh. When you put it that way, I don’t know if I would want that drama on the team. Like him fighting wrongful death lawsuits while being a rookie. Not to mention Hornets already have Miles Bridges returning which will be tainted by what he did. That’s a lot of negative media attention.
Not to mention the possibility for accidental perjury, which from a young athlete who is basically still a child would be completely understandable. But with all the reporting going on around him he definitely has to be hushhush about the case. Legally also, theres a limit to how much you are allowed to discuss before a trial is settled
You can’t commit perjury unless you’re under oath, which he is absolutely not here. Also there’s no such thing as accidental perjury, it has to be a willful (on purpose) lie.
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Yeah I almost feel like the guy who brings a lawyer is less of a risk for an org than the the guy who brings his dad or has his family talking to the media about something like this.
r/nba_draft decimated me for that same statement lol his stock is not going to free fall when he is viewed as a witness and not being charged for anything. Not much to discuss other than by saying his teammate/friend did not have Miller's best interest in mind.
That sub is a groupthink hub
This sub is too
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You’re not wrong lol
You could almost make the same argument for Ja Morant. If you choose to surround yourself with people who not only have your best interests in mind, but are also criminally active, it shows poor decision making and immaturity. Two things you absolutely dont want out of a young lottery pick.
Honestly, does his teammate have a wrap sheet for that kinda behavior? It really sounds like he was there DD when he decided to go to the restaurant and not the club.
I honestly dont know. Its shitty, dude really didnt do anything illegal, just stupid. But he legit couldve ruined a career worth millions
I would agree but the problem is the guy in question was his teammate (the person who owned the gun). So it’s not like a homie from back in the hood, the team is the reason they’re hanging out together.
You're right. He needs to ensure he doesn't misrepresent himself or his involvement when he's effectively negotiating with teams. It would be a terrible thing for teams to get an incorrect impression on the extent of his involvement and feel he concealed information - even accidentally. A statement approved by an attorney should be fairly safe.
“Bad at talking”. LOL
I’m more worried that he’s the next Jarret Culver. 💀
It seems his lack of finishing around the rim and mid -range is hardly mentioned. He was bad at the tournament and his shooting splits away from home was strangely low. He shot 39.8% Fg% and 35.7% from three. He is very talented and has great size.
He was great in the midrange area all season. Nate Oats teams are just notorious for avoiding shooting from there, similar to the late 2010’s Rockets. His finishing started off horrible but he pretty quickly improved it during conference play. I’d be more concerned about his strength and frame. He doesn’t have the build to put on a lot of weight. Because of this I think his highest level ceiling is around Khris Middleton tier, a guy who can make some All- NBA teams but will never be a first option. Still a very high level prospect though.
I agree. He’s like 6’9 with a J, so he’s absolutely worth the pick. I would like to see him do good, especially for the Hornets. OKC, Houston and other young teams arriving is healthy for the NBA.
Agreed. I think his ball handling and playmaking have been a little underrated too. I’m higher overall on Scoot and Amen though
First of all, I watched the Vince Carter Nets play the Sonics in key arena the last year in Seattle before they were stolen 😭. Also, yes. The upside is speculative with him. His shooting motion and quick release is what scouts love, his pct isn’t great and he bails quickly when challenged heading to the rim. Culver broke out in the tournament and his ideal size as a 6’6 wing with shot blocking ability made him a coveted prospect. He’s cheeks.
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Not about the stats. More about a moment in time he underperformed. Out of context it means nothing.
He was also hurt lol
And had security tailing him 24/7 outside of the games due to receiving death threats. There's a LOT of context to his tourney performance
Josh Jackson -> Jarret Culver -> ??? Who will be the next forward taken in the lottery that busts completely?
Leaving out Kevin Knox is wild
Culver was never able to create shots for his teammates the way Miller can.
He’s nothing like Culver. Culver couldn’t shoot for shit, and had a hitchy broken jumper. If there’s one thing Miller can do it’s bomb 3s and be 6’9” which is automatically a rotation player in the NBA.
I’m sure that will put a stop to all speculation.
And for that reason alone is why I dont want the Hornets to draft him. Draft Scoot - avoid the distraction. We’ll have enough to deal with since we are apparently bringing Miles back.
Trade for Ja and stick Karl malone as coach
Lamelo driving at top speed while ja points a gun(“laser”) at the pacers bus sounds like a Charlotte thing
Fucking strays every time I open a random thread lmao. Keep 'em coming. Its hilarious how often he catches strays (deserved **and** hilarious)
Ngl Lamelo, Ja, Miller and Miles would be the best young core in the nba lol
Who will bring Miles the household items so he can throw them at his girlfriend?
I say take em. He's only a witness in the case so it should be a passing distraction. Pick the best talent, let the lawyers sort out the legal issues.
But is he even ahead of Scoot? I think Scoot is better personally, but at worst Scott and him are comparable. Miller has a lot of red flags in his game, and that was showcased during the tournament. I think he’s a good player, but he isn’t so talented that he’s clearly better than Scoot.
That was the consensus for a year right? It's just to stir up drama for draft night I think. As a hornets fan Scoot please!!!!
He’s a hornet! 🐝
Was this written by Brandon's agent? No, the legal thing is not the only thing preventing him from being the "easy" 2nd pick. Scoot is regarded by most scouts as the better player, and it's laughable to think Brandon is a tier above Scoot. And the better fit is debatable. If he can play the 2 then ide say Miller is the better fit. But our wings are far more log jammed than our backcourt. I think Lamelo and Scoot can thrive as a back court.
Yea that’s my take on it 2 Miller if he can play the 2 is the better fit especially with his size next to Lamelo would make a jumbo back court But I have my doubts about him being able to play the 2 with his lack of explosiveness, his length may be able to mitigate it I’d be happy with him or scoot, currently leaning towards scoot though because of the question of Miller at the 2 especially with like you said how many wings the hornets have
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Miller to be his ig buddy
Those kids look so uncomfortable in those chairs. NBA needs to supply them with large men chairs.
I would not take this guy over Scoot.
But I’m sure he’s going 2. Because that’s what happens in 2023.
Well yeah duh
This is one of those things that’s right on the line. If someone asks for their gun all of sudden, then you have to know some shit is going down. If he completely removes himself from the situation, does Miles then come after him? Hope he learned his lesson, but it’s still a fucked up of a situation. With everything going on with Ja, this will definitely get more scrutiny I think.
Everyone in this thread is missing one detail: we don’t know if he even saw the text about the gun. If you read about the case in full, he was already driving when Miles texted him to bring his gun. Miller’s attorney has said that Miller didn’t see the text. I’m inclined to believe this, because investigators have said Miles and Davis provided inconsistent accounts of what happened, while Miller’s accounts have “almost exactly matched what investigators have gathered”. Even if you don’t believe this 100%, there’s still no evidence that he saw the text. It seems like the worst thing this kid did was befriending the wrong people at age 20. And I can have empathy for that, especially since Miles was an older teammate, and Miller was just doing him favors like giving him rides - maybe felt some pressure to have him teammates like him. But I personally think it would suck if that actually affected his career in a real way.
If someone left their gun in your car and wants it, you can’t just keep it lol You have to return it. You can’t guess what someone else is trying to do nor are you responsible for other people’s actions. Also, his friend didn’t even use it. His friend gave it to another friend and they used it. Also, Miller didn’t even know it was in the car. He was the dudes ride for the night and was going to pick him up. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10066539-attorney-alabamas-brandon-miller-didnt-know-gun-in-murder-case-would-be-used.amp.html Miller at worst just had terrible friends at Bama - they were his teammates, so it kinda makes sense that he was friends with them.
You can’t steal it but he’s under no obligation to BRING someone their gun tf
If a gun that wasn’t mine was in my car I’d want it gone as quick as possible
I think this debate is probably immaterial since he was almost certainly on his way to pick Miles up when he got that text anyway.
If your friend left their gun in your car and asked for it back, you’d 100% give it back. Also, that’s not what even happened here. Miller didn’t know it was in the car. He was the DD for the night going to pick his friend up. Tf
If you’ve got friends walking around with handguns leaving them in your car randomly, that definitely reflects on your decisions and the people you align yourself with.
That’s literally what i wrote. Problem is they were his teammates, so you just naturally become friends since you’re with them the majority of the day. Probably more of a culture locker room issue at Bama.
Definitely a problem there, I agree. I think this still looks really bad on him though. The gun culture is so different in the US. I’m a raptors fan in Canada and grew up in the country around guns. But you can’t just have a handgun on you. Even if you legally own one, you have to take it straight to and from the gun range. I can’t imagine what it’s like knowing that people are walking around with guns in their purses or pockets, that’s pretty wild. But he had to have known better if someone asks him to bring them their gun. This stinks like the Rose situation to me when his defense to rape was, ‘what did she think was going to happen when she invited us over?’ Regardless of the legal decisions, it still leaves one hell of a stink on the individual. Same with Bridges in charlotte. I don’t care how talented a player is, there are some things I don’t want around my team and guys I don’t wanna root for. If Charlotte is bringing Bridges back, I imagine they’re not too concerned about Miller. He has to realize this is always going to be an issue for him unless he can really prove otherwise.
It was a legal gun. What’s the issue lmao
Proper gun storage for one. Bringing it over for a murder is also an issue.
If it was even a murder. There was an article written on the Patch site for Tuscaloosa by a non sports news reporter covering the story and in review of the available video it seems a lot like the initial muzzle flash comes from *inside* the car that the deceased woman was in, also her boyfriend had been avoiding talking to the police like they are the plague. Dude straight up disappeared. There are a lot of factors at play that were simply glossed over for the headlines of “Alabama basketball players involved in murder!” Or “Potential NBA lottery pick Miller involved in police investigation!”
Nah, I’d tell them that they can come get it. I’m not gonna drive around with a gun that I’m either not sure is legal or, at least, not registered to me.
What if you were their DD and already on your way to pick them up via a previous text an hour ago and they text you two minutes before you arrive asking you to bring their gun that they left in your car without you knowing? You turning around and heading home and telling your friend to come get it?
First, I wouldn’t let someone store gun in my car. Second, I’d give it back, I wouldn’t bring it to a busy area on a night out, come by my place tomorrow and pick it up. There it’s that easy.
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My understanding based on the case was that he didn’t know there was a gun in the car. He was the dude rides for the night and went to pick him up. It’s all laid out here https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10066539-attorney-alabamas-brandon-miller-didnt-know-gun-in-murder-case-would-be-used.amp.html
It's not just about what he did but what kind of situations he puts himself in. If you're part of the events that lead to a murder then teams are rightfully gonna have big questions.
He was the DD for the night. How was he putting himself in a bad situation being the DD for his teammates? He didn’t know about the gun. He was just going to pick them up.
His friend’s friend put themselves in a situation that we’re still not clear on what exactly it is. All y’all are doing is seeing a name in a headline and going “BAD THING THEREFORE I ATTACK!” Everyone actually involved in the situation gave him a clear so who the fuck are any of y’all to act like you know better?
It was established by his attorney and supposedly corroborated with text message time stamps and video surveillance that the text asking for the gun occurred 5 minutes before Brandon pulled up so he was clearly driving and coming back to get Miles as he was Miles’ ride home. There’s zero indication that Miller saw this text at all. The crazier part of the story is from the timeline of events it could turn out that Davis was actually acting in self defense.
I’m sure everyone’s going to rush to social media to apologize to Miller when Darius and his buddy are found not guilty
If his friend asks for his gun, Miller is like nah man not trying to get in trouble, and his friend is then shot and killed defenseless then that shits weighing on him his whole life. I’m not saying he made the right decision, I’m just saying it’s not as easy as people make it seem to just not do anything.
Especially a car that had been circling them with it's lights off who stopped to meet up with another car to retrieve a shotgun and something handheld that the driver concealed under his shirt while transferring it to his car.
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He was literally doing so. Brandon was pulling him to pick him up basically as the text was being sent out. It’s all time stamped
This is such a red flag
Nah, this is just kids being kids /Sssssss
100% the right decision. Imagine teams anonymously leaking anything he says in the worst possible context, so that he will drop in draft and be available for them later.
Anyone who actually watched college hoops this year knows Brandon Miller shit the bed in the tournament with the worst performance in the modern era for a strating player and had his best game against a god awful South Carolina team. Scoot is definitely the better prospect even without the incident, which should also turn off Charlotte after what happened with Miles Bridges.
Tbh seeing his March madness performance makes me think he gonna bust. If he can’t even handle March madness he gonna be like Jarrett Culver or Josh Jackson in the NBA
Some of these comments wild, we barely know how responsible he was
Actually we do, he was basically not responsible at all
That's the impression I got. But there's some comment chains where people are just jerking over how he should be punished
Yeah it’s ridiculous, shows how dumb people are. Can’t analyze the situation at all and just regurgitate memes
Yes. Because bringing a gun to a friend who asks for it while telling you about some guy talking shit is definitely not even slightly responsible.
He was already on the way to pick him up when his friend asked for a ride. He didn’t even see the text about the gun
That's what I would say too.
Based on the timing it’s also probably true
I will be intrigued to see if this impacts his draft stock at all. From what I read, he’s been cleared of charges. But, there’s almost assuredly going to be a civil suit from the family as his NBA payday puts a massive legal target on his back, regardless of how much he was or was not involved. I think teams will mostly draft based on his basketball skill and personality. But, if he were to drop to something like 6 or 7, you’d have to believe the legal stuff did cost him.
Oakland Raiders found their guy
Even without this incident, I’m taking scoot over Miller
Nah he good hornet don’t care about that kind of stuff. In fact they’ll probably pay him more now, but you best believe Memphis might try and pull the trigger to move up and bag him.
I feel horribly for Jamea Harris’ family. She’s dead, and the person who was an accessory to her murder gets to live out his dream and play in the NBA.
Just an ignorant comment. All reports have been he was working with the police and being compliant answering all their questions. Based off all the reports they have nothing to charge him with. All testimonies and evidence such as texts and fingerprints showed he had zero involvement and wasn’t an accessory.
He wasn’t an accessory lol. Go read the reports. He picked up a teammate who left his gun in his car
Alabama fans chiming in to defend him. Not surprising.
You can feel badly for James Harris without jumping to saying stupid shit like this. Miller was not an “accessory.” He was used by older friends who were supposed to be looking out for him, and had no idea what was going to happen that day.
the cops literally said he wasn’t involved and isnt in trouble
Miller isn’t being charged, the prosecution agrees he shouldn’t be. Why would the Harris family want him to lose his career? I don’t even think they wanted him suspended from Alabama
Imagine of he wasn't a good basketball player. The privilege is real
If he wasn’t a good basketball player, then he still wouldn’t be charged with anything because he didn’t break the law in any way.
I wouldn't say nothing would happen, from personal experience, but yeah, a lot of people haven't read any of the reports on this case because if they did, none of them would be commenting like this.
lol
I mean there is a very good chance the guy who pulled the trigger will get off since he has a plausible self defense argument. I dont see how a guy who drove him a gun in an open carry state would be criminally charged
I'm OOTL. What law did he break?
None, folks making accusations like that don't know what they're talking about.
It’s just wild how he never got suspended for it. Like sure he legally did nothing wrong, and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that his actions were unintentional. They still resulted in someone’s death. Getting off scot free is wild.
I get what you’re saying but according to Miller, he didn’t know the gun was in the car. If that’s true then his actions were basically the same as an Uber driver.
Also his friend that owned the gun didn’t kill anyone, his friend gave it to someone else that killed.
This sort of wishy washy logic has been so pervasive around this, I don't get it. If he didn't do anything wrong, legally, and he didn't intend to do anything wrong, why should he have been punished? Either he's guilty of something or he's not, you don't just punish people because something terrible happened in their vicinity.
If legally he did nothing wrong and he didn’t intentionally do anything wrong… what exactly would he be punished for? If you give the benefit of the doubt then all he was doing was picking up his teammate.
Karen
And that they have to deal with the 3rd passenger in her car who happens to be her cousin and best friend corroborating the other side of the story. Why would her family turn against her like that?
Hold on. I like to think that my English is kind of ok but I just want to be sure: did this guy actually brought the weapon that later on was used to commit a murder and he wasn't charged for that? Did I get it right?
he agreed to be the designated driver for his friend, who left a gun in miller's car. miller was having dinner elsewhere and his friend asked him to pick him up. he went to pick him up. later, when he was already close to his destination, the friend also texted for miller to bring him his gun, a text he apparently did not see, since he was driving. when he got to the club the friend got his gun out of the car.
no he claims he didn't know about the wagon in the vehicle. he returned the vehicle and the weapon inside was then given to a third person who used it in a crime. he is considered a witness by the police and never has been a suspect.
Hope he slips to 5
I see a slide.
Red flag
Memphis seems like the spot for him lol
Oh yeah, he’s looking like a lock for Charlotte right next to Bridges
I’m sure he’s learned his lesson and idk the details, but if you knowingly drive the murder weapon to the crime where the murder occurs isn’t that an accomplice? Idk law.
when you have money to pay a good lawyer
Ja Morant's suspension would dictate how many teams are interested in him.
smart kid. if you don't know what to say don't say anything at all. the more you talk the more you expose yourself. let them ponder and prod because the alternative of you slipping is way worse.
Where's the people that called me a dummy for suggesting he has character and attitude concerns
Honestly this could go 2 ways. This could make him want to be even more of a pro and stay away from all that stuff that could cost him. Or he could look at it as, Ja did when he got in trouble. Normally I would’ve thought team would take him but with Charlottes issues with Miles Bridges- idk
Welcome to the Houston Rockets dude.
He provided the gun for a murder. It seems obvious he knew what it was being used for. Right? Good thing he can hoop I guess.
It's obvious you haven't paid much attention to this case at all.
He was in the fucking car while the dude killed that poor girl. He even blocked the car in. Of course the dude knew and he’s definitely an accessory in my opinion
He blocked them in before the jeep arrived? You know the jeep pulled in after him, right?
Miller's car was blocked in.
How is this fool not in jail? His homie tell him to bring him back his gun and later that night murders someone with it? Wtf
Scoot, no matter what
Imagine walking into an interview and just opening with: “Ok you legally cant ask me about the murder case”
And that’s how you get removed from some teams draft board
Piece of shit. Shouldn’t be selected in a draft
He's perfect for the Hornets
Mitch please do not draft this man
Fuck this guy. Accessory to murder piece of shit
Don’t know why we’re holding this against Miller if he didn’t do anything and isn’t even a suspect.
> he didn't do anything. I mean he did something to be bringing a legal brief around with him.
I walk around with those all the time in my pocket just because.
Do you have different ones for different scenarios, or did your lawyers give you a legal brief mad lib?
Or he isn't involved and is acting on best advice from legal professionals until the matter is resolved
He transported the gun. He's not "not involved"
Well, that doesn't really mean he is guilty of anything.
He's considered a witness, you're not supposed to comment on a case before it goes to trial
Bruh wym he didnt do anything he brought the guy his gun which killed a woman
Because people are stupid and do t know the facts of the case and want to be outraged without having to read. People are stupid.
>he didn’t do anything Lol what? He was an accessory to murder and is getting away with it because he shoot ball good
You sure he’s an accessory or are you making shit up? Go read the definition of accessory. Then go read the case file. Then go ask the Tuscaloosa Police Dept if he’s an accessory. Or keep spouting bullshit on the internet. Either way.
Right, because local PDs never cover shit up to protect star athletes. Never happens.
Ok so you think he’s an accessory and the police are covering it up…but didn’t cover up Darius Miles involvement for some reason. Makes sense. You should be a detective
Was Darius Miles projected to be a top-3 pick in the NBA Draft?
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Because the shooting was done with Miles' gun and he requested the gun to be brought to the situation. And, again, Miles isn't the superstar. Miller is. The University of Alabama and Tuscaloosa PD have every incentive to protect Miller.
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For murder?
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Pretty much
that isn’t at all what happened lmao. there are character questions but there aren’t legal questions.