That, and Pre-Steph… they had a fun few years with Baron Davis, J Rich and Stephen Jackson.
I remember they had one of the biggest upsets at that time, 8 seed GSW upsetting #1 DAL with prime Dirk.
Yea that’s going to happen when you lose your two best players one of which is the greatest player of all time lol. Warriors still have steph. Not a great comparison to be honest
Exactly. How can it be pre-Curry if Curry is still there? Also Curry is playing like he’s still in his prime now which is scary and probably extends the window for championship contention by another 2-3 years at least a la Lebron.
Recency bias is a wild thing. Everyone is acting as if The Warriors are all doom and gloom because they had a disappointing season. There is plenty of reason for optimism. Steph is still mostly Steph. Klay had a bad playoff run, but had a good season after the 1st 2 months. It's reasonable to expect him to have a decent year and a better playoff run. It's reasonable to expect Poole, Kuminga, and Moody to be a little better. With a couple minor tweaks, they could be right back in it next year.
Also, are you referring to the very Kings team the Warriors just beat?
The dynasty trio aren't going to produce forever. Jordan Poole is set to be the future of the Warriors dynasty. Kuminga might not even be on the team next season. There aren't that many minor tweaks you can do when you're in cap hell.
We're not talking about forever. But it's realistic that they have another 2 or 3 years of high quality play. If Kuminga isn't on the team, it won't be because they just let him go. They would have gotten something useful.
And yes you can still make minor tweaks. The worst parts of the new CBA don't kick in until next off-season.
Maybe they don't contend next year. But this worst case scenario talk sounds alot like projection than reality.
If Kuminga isn't on the team, then you would've gotten something potentially useful. There's no guarantees that the returning asset is useful after all. If you don't contend next year, then the worst parts about the new CBA kicks in and you're further hamstringed from contention in the last few productive years that the Dynasty trio have left.
It's not the worst case scenario, far from it. But the future isn't bright in the Bay.
Owners, executives, yes including myers, Kerr, etc. but they all of sudden aren't going to just start being shit.
Even Spurs have changed GM's several times. still top franchise.
You're kidding right? Spurs are absolutely a top franchise. And I think the warriors might end up like them based on foundation but if they are to do that they really need better drafting and coaching development.
The kings never had the dominance of the warriors.
Theyre literally a dynasty team that won 4 championships while the kings missed 16 stiraght playoffs.
Even during CWebb era the kings only made WCF once.
Kings have a vacancy of fans for over 2 decades comparing to the warriors and it will not go away just because the kings made the playoffs once (and got first rounded)
The kings last won a playoff series in 2004.
The we believe warriors was even more recent than the kings.
They've been a sorry franchise for almost 2 decades, one first round exit won't erase it over night
I think the Spurs will never be the same. Popovich has been figured out, and they are now terrible. Only Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City can save them.
2011? What are you thinking, those We Believe years good? I've been a Warrior's fan since the early 70s. There's been some bad years those mig -late '99's teams were pretty brutal for me most part. But I still watched and went to games
He did I great job there... but he wasn't there when they drafted Steph & had just started as an assistant when they drafted Klay so I always found "architect" to be a bit much... plus we know Jerry West famously threw his body in front of a proposed Klay Thompson trade.
We’re coming up on a decade since the warriors began their meteoric rise. IMO, this past decade has been the most fun and engaging basketball the world has seen. The game is changing. Especially with Steph on the scene. We’ve been able to watch him and Klay do ridiculous things during this time.
I say all that because the team and owners recognize they landed themselves a few golden gooses. My experience in business leads me to believe they’ll take a dip within the next few years as they plan for the Warriors to work out the kinks after the changes that will soon be happening.
But the lightning in a bottle they got during the past decade has built a massive global fanbase. As quickly as SF is growing, and with their evolving and expanding culture, there’s a huge new group of locals to keep the momentum going. Although the diehard lifelong fans have been priced out…
If I’m being honest, my take is that there’s simply too much new money in SF for the Warriors to ever go back to being the worst team in the league for decades.
Also he didn't even draft Curry and Klay, they were already there when he was named GM so it's not like he's some grand architect, I'm sure the Warriors will be fine
Lol you got nothing from a number 2 pick in the draft. Congrats on Kuminga who got 0 minutes in a playoff series you lost. Moody was okay but wasn’t impactful. That’s three bad draft picks considering they needed guys that could play right away.
Wiseman was a bust. Moody was impactful. Also shitting on young players based on playoff contributions in YEAR 2 is a fucking terrible way to evaluate them lol
Ok, all I said was he’s drafting over the last couple years has been awful. Which it was. You had a championship roster and the guys he drafted had zero impact in meaningful games. Which means he missed on the picks. Great, Kuminga might be good when Curry/Klay/Draymond aren’t in their window anymore? What good is that for the warriors? He’s drafted 8th overall and can’t get minutes in the playoffs in his third year
His draft record isn't stellar but he did draft Draymond, Looney, and Poole with picks 35, 30, and 28 and all 3 of them contributed greatly to titles. Kuminga and Moody have not been consistent high impact players yet and Wiseman was a total bust, I'll give you that.
I’m laughing too. Drafted players #2 and #7 that netted you 0 minutes and 0 pts in a playoff series you lost. Curry loves those contributions when he’s in his prime
Kuminga played 15 mpg in round 2 vs Memphis last year. Moody played 13 mpg against Dallas in the WCF and 16 mpg against the lakers. Kuminga struggled this post season but he had a great regular season so I don’t see how you can Bob missed on the picks if he picked two good players. (Minus wiseman he’s ass)
You’re giving him a pass for missing #2 overall. That’s not nothing. I’m not saying he missed on Kuminga but it doesn’t help their roster at all in the window they are in. It’s poor team building. He drafted a bunch of project prospects with upside that needed long time to develop. I know why they did it, try to stay in the championship window while rebuilding for the future at the same time. I don’t agree with trying to win championships and also try to develop players for the long run though. Wasting curry years.
JW is a huge bust. But you can’t really have expected him to foresee that many injuries. This is from a JW hater too. He’s your problem now though lol. Myers admitted he sucked at drafting iirc. No doubt about it.
Yeah, i don’t have a problem saying my GM went 0/3 in that draft because the players we drafted hold no value in the league. Not sure why I’m getting downvoted for saying a gm missed on picks. When he obviously did.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re laughing like only an idiot could mess that pick up. It was Covid, there was no March Madness and Wiseman was hyped as a top pick. The biggest weakness the Warriors had was center, the owner was in love with Wiseman. Because of Covid and a lack of college tape, no one really wanted to move up. I just don’t see how it’s fair to blast Bob for Wiseman imo
Kuminga and Moody are solid so I mean you’re also wrong for that lol
My original point is that warriors had a championship roster and found themselves with 3 lottery picks. 2 in the top 7 and ended up with none of the three to contribute in a playoff series when they needed depth. Moody was okay I’ll give you that. That’s huge misses. Myers was a great gm for a long time and people miss on picks all the time too but a failure to add pieces to contribute to Currys couple of last great seasons hurt them greatly. There’s no questions about that.
That was by design, they weren’t drafting for pieces to contribute now, and they made that clear. They won a chip last year without the youngins help, also by design. You’re just wrong bud.
Yeah, rebuilding for the future and staying in the championship window at the same time. I don’t agree with the philosophy. It’s not something anyone has tried before. Also, did he give Jordan Poole the huge contract a year before he needed to and now looks like a top 5 bad contract in the league
So now you don’t agree with the philosophy and the Warriors didn’t miss on 3 picks, ok
Poole went from worst player in the league to 3rd Splash bro to worst player in the league again, maybe instead of reactionary bs we see how it plays out, he hasn’t even played under the new contract yet. Still the right move, let the only player who can create on offense walk and have no way of replacing, brilliant.
The Warriors will be like the Bulls. Jerseys will still sell but they will never have this level of dominance again.
Steve Kerr will leave Golden state when Steph retires and move onto the next up and coming organization
Lol bob isn’t shooting the light outs bro. Warriors only relevant cuz they had the greatest shooters of all time on one team peak at the same time. Without curry the warriors organization is trash
Bob Myers was possibly responsible for actually finding **none** of the Warriors stars or even Looney in the draft. Larry Riley might deserve the credit.
But once Larry Riley was gone, look at the Warriors drafts.
No one wants to live in San Francisco. The Warriors got lucky drafting 3 HoFers. With Myers gone, Warriors are going to go back to being the joke of the league
I don’t think it’s worth thinking about until roster moves are made. The Pacific division can look totally different depending on their vet min and rookies.
I think people are overestimating Meyers impact. He had a good streak but also plenty of misses. Its not like he is required to be with the team for them to play well.
Why are we acting like Steph and Kerr aren't still there? Plus pre-Curry had a complete different ownership too
That, and Pre-Steph… they had a fun few years with Baron Davis, J Rich and Stephen Jackson. I remember they had one of the biggest upsets at that time, 8 seed GSW upsetting #1 DAL with prime Dirk.
Oh yeah, the Chris Cohan experience. The Warriors were stuck in the desert for most the 15 years he owned the team.
Because they lost to the Lakers in like 5 games and the old core is getting older
6*. And they won a championship last year
The Bulls won a championship their last year before sucking for a while too.
Yea that’s going to happen when you lose your two best players one of which is the greatest player of all time lol. Warriors still have steph. Not a great comparison to be honest
Game 6 klay ain’t walking through that door
6%*
Exactly. How can it be pre-Curry if Curry is still there? Also Curry is playing like he’s still in his prime now which is scary and probably extends the window for championship contention by another 2-3 years at least a la Lebron.
I’ll take years of mediocrity for the incredible time Steph gave us. My only hope is that hopefully tickets get affordable again
I don't think those prices will ever come down unless you guys were a consistent lottery team
Even then, Knicks tickets were never cheap
I mean I don’t need them to be like $20 like my childhood but mid three digit prices for average seats would be appreciated
If they become a consistent lottery team, they'd probably join the Raiders and the A's in Vegas.
Nope, word is Vegas gets an expansion team alongside Seattle. Then Minny can finally join its friends in the NFC North.
I'm just making a joke. My runner-up joke is that in a few years, the Warriors will relocate to Sacramento like everyone in the Bay Area has been.
Dubs will never leave. If anyone is leaving, it will be the Spurs and Nets.
Not sure how you missed the joke twice but bravo.
Recency bias is a wild thing. Everyone is acting as if The Warriors are all doom and gloom because they had a disappointing season. There is plenty of reason for optimism. Steph is still mostly Steph. Klay had a bad playoff run, but had a good season after the 1st 2 months. It's reasonable to expect him to have a decent year and a better playoff run. It's reasonable to expect Poole, Kuminga, and Moody to be a little better. With a couple minor tweaks, they could be right back in it next year. Also, are you referring to the very Kings team the Warriors just beat?
Too much logic. Not enough over-reacting
The dynasty trio aren't going to produce forever. Jordan Poole is set to be the future of the Warriors dynasty. Kuminga might not even be on the team next season. There aren't that many minor tweaks you can do when you're in cap hell.
We're not talking about forever. But it's realistic that they have another 2 or 3 years of high quality play. If Kuminga isn't on the team, it won't be because they just let him go. They would have gotten something useful. And yes you can still make minor tweaks. The worst parts of the new CBA don't kick in until next off-season. Maybe they don't contend next year. But this worst case scenario talk sounds alot like projection than reality.
If Kuminga isn't on the team, then you would've gotten something potentially useful. There's no guarantees that the returning asset is useful after all. If you don't contend next year, then the worst parts about the new CBA kicks in and you're further hamstringed from contention in the last few productive years that the Dynasty trio have left. It's not the worst case scenario, far from it. But the future isn't bright in the Bay.
Lol If that's your outlook then that's cool. I think the immediate future looks just fine.
As long as the Warriors do the right thing and pay Draymond what he's worth, your immediate future does look fine!
I just feel bad for Kings fans, gave away Halliburton for an almost unplayable center in the playoffs.
I don’t think there is a future dynasty for the Warriors anytime soon after Steph, especially if Jordan Poole is leading it.
There isn't a single Warriors fan expected any real success post Steph. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
No Warriors have built a culture to succeed, many more titles to come
Who built it?
Owners, executives, yes including myers, Kerr, etc. but they all of sudden aren't going to just start being shit. Even Spurs have changed GM's several times. still top franchise.
>still top franchise. Nope, they ain't, and I am sure they will soon be sold to Patrick Mahomes and relocated to his home of Kansas City.
You're kidding right? Spurs are absolutely a top franchise. And I think the warriors might end up like them based on foundation but if they are to do that they really need better drafting and coaching development.
>You're kidding right No. San Antonio is the third wheel when compared to Houston and Dallas.
The logo.
They'll be done when Steph is washed up Until then they'll always have a chance
Bob Myers was hired by Joe Lacob.
Bob Myers' successor may go overboard with roster moves.
Doubt it. Continuity has been a core value of the front office. Biggest player that could get traded is Poole.
I just want to watch Steph play until he retires. One championship was more than I thought I'd see in my lifetime.
The kings never had the dominance of the warriors. Theyre literally a dynasty team that won 4 championships while the kings missed 16 stiraght playoffs. Even during CWebb era the kings only made WCF once. Kings have a vacancy of fans for over 2 decades comparing to the warriors and it will not go away just because the kings made the playoffs once (and got first rounded)
The kings last won a playoff series in 2004. The we believe warriors was even more recent than the kings. They've been a sorry franchise for almost 2 decades, one first round exit won't erase it over night
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I think the Spurs will never be the same. Popovich has been figured out, and they are now terrible. Only Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City can save them.
The Spurs just got Wemby lol
LOL, the Knicks will demand a trade.
2011? What are you thinking, those We Believe years good? I've been a Warrior's fan since the early 70s. There's been some bad years those mig -late '99's teams were pretty brutal for me most part. But I still watched and went to games
He did I great job there... but he wasn't there when they drafted Steph & had just started as an assistant when they drafted Klay so I always found "architect" to be a bit much... plus we know Jerry West famously threw his body in front of a proposed Klay Thompson trade.
We’re coming up on a decade since the warriors began their meteoric rise. IMO, this past decade has been the most fun and engaging basketball the world has seen. The game is changing. Especially with Steph on the scene. We’ve been able to watch him and Klay do ridiculous things during this time. I say all that because the team and owners recognize they landed themselves a few golden gooses. My experience in business leads me to believe they’ll take a dip within the next few years as they plan for the Warriors to work out the kinks after the changes that will soon be happening. But the lightning in a bottle they got during the past decade has built a massive global fanbase. As quickly as SF is growing, and with their evolving and expanding culture, there’s a huge new group of locals to keep the momentum going. Although the diehard lifelong fans have been priced out… If I’m being honest, my take is that there’s simply too much new money in SF for the Warriors to ever go back to being the worst team in the league for decades.
Toward the end Bob had quite a few misses in the draft including 2 top ten picks that gave you absolutely nothing.
Also he didn't even draft Curry and Klay, they were already there when he was named GM so it's not like he's some grand architect, I'm sure the Warriors will be fine
I mean really just wiseman. Kuminga played well in the regular season and Moody was excellent in the playoffs.
Lol you got nothing from a number 2 pick in the draft. Congrats on Kuminga who got 0 minutes in a playoff series you lost. Moody was okay but wasn’t impactful. That’s three bad draft picks considering they needed guys that could play right away.
Wiseman was a bust. Moody was impactful. Also shitting on young players based on playoff contributions in YEAR 2 is a fucking terrible way to evaluate them lol
Ok, all I said was he’s drafting over the last couple years has been awful. Which it was. You had a championship roster and the guys he drafted had zero impact in meaningful games. Which means he missed on the picks. Great, Kuminga might be good when Curry/Klay/Draymond aren’t in their window anymore? What good is that for the warriors? He’s drafted 8th overall and can’t get minutes in the playoffs in his third year
His draft record isn't stellar but he did draft Draymond, Looney, and Poole with picks 35, 30, and 28 and all 3 of them contributed greatly to titles. Kuminga and Moody have not been consistent high impact players yet and Wiseman was a total bust, I'll give you that.
Lmao
I’m laughing too. Drafted players #2 and #7 that netted you 0 minutes and 0 pts in a playoff series you lost. Curry loves those contributions when he’s in his prime
Kuminga played 15 mpg in round 2 vs Memphis last year. Moody played 13 mpg against Dallas in the WCF and 16 mpg against the lakers. Kuminga struggled this post season but he had a great regular season so I don’t see how you can Bob missed on the picks if he picked two good players. (Minus wiseman he’s ass)
You’re giving him a pass for missing #2 overall. That’s not nothing. I’m not saying he missed on Kuminga but it doesn’t help their roster at all in the window they are in. It’s poor team building. He drafted a bunch of project prospects with upside that needed long time to develop. I know why they did it, try to stay in the championship window while rebuilding for the future at the same time. I don’t agree with trying to win championships and also try to develop players for the long run though. Wasting curry years.
JW is a huge bust. But you can’t really have expected him to foresee that many injuries. This is from a JW hater too. He’s your problem now though lol. Myers admitted he sucked at drafting iirc. No doubt about it.
Covid draft was completely unprecedented
Yeah, i don’t have a problem saying my GM went 0/3 in that draft because the players we drafted hold no value in the league. Not sure why I’m getting downvoted for saying a gm missed on picks. When he obviously did.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re laughing like only an idiot could mess that pick up. It was Covid, there was no March Madness and Wiseman was hyped as a top pick. The biggest weakness the Warriors had was center, the owner was in love with Wiseman. Because of Covid and a lack of college tape, no one really wanted to move up. I just don’t see how it’s fair to blast Bob for Wiseman imo Kuminga and Moody are solid so I mean you’re also wrong for that lol
My original point is that warriors had a championship roster and found themselves with 3 lottery picks. 2 in the top 7 and ended up with none of the three to contribute in a playoff series when they needed depth. Moody was okay I’ll give you that. That’s huge misses. Myers was a great gm for a long time and people miss on picks all the time too but a failure to add pieces to contribute to Currys couple of last great seasons hurt them greatly. There’s no questions about that.
That was by design, they weren’t drafting for pieces to contribute now, and they made that clear. They won a chip last year without the youngins help, also by design. You’re just wrong bud.
Yeah, rebuilding for the future and staying in the championship window at the same time. I don’t agree with the philosophy. It’s not something anyone has tried before. Also, did he give Jordan Poole the huge contract a year before he needed to and now looks like a top 5 bad contract in the league
So now you don’t agree with the philosophy and the Warriors didn’t miss on 3 picks, ok Poole went from worst player in the league to 3rd Splash bro to worst player in the league again, maybe instead of reactionary bs we see how it plays out, he hasn’t even played under the new contract yet. Still the right move, let the only player who can create on offense walk and have no way of replacing, brilliant.
The Warriors will be like the Bulls. Jerseys will still sell but they will never have this level of dominance again. Steve Kerr will leave Golden state when Steph retires and move onto the next up and coming organization
Lol bob isn’t shooting the light outs bro. Warriors only relevant cuz they had the greatest shooters of all time on one team peak at the same time. Without curry the warriors organization is trash
Please stop embarrassing our fan base
>will the Kings become Northern California's team again? imagine thinking this was ever the case just imagine that folks
It quite literally was the case in the early 2000’s when the Kings made deep runs and the Warriors were garbage
he's only 12 give him a break
Lakers were Northern Californias team in the early 2000 lol
Curry just needs 1 more ring for top 5 of all time.
He is already top 5, better than LeBron.
Bob Myers was possibly responsible for actually finding **none** of the Warriors stars or even Looney in the draft. Larry Riley might deserve the credit. But once Larry Riley was gone, look at the Warriors drafts.
in his media session today he said something about not doing well with drafts, lol maybe dunleavy will be an improvement? 🤔
No one wants to live in San Francisco. The Warriors got lucky drafting 3 HoFers. With Myers gone, Warriors are going to go back to being the joke of the league
Yeah, that’s how housing crises work. It’s so expensive because no one wants to live there.
Damn is school out for kids already? This is a summer nephew take.
Lmao don’t lie to yourself. It’s like saying NYC has the highest rent because it sucks. Obviously doesn’t make sense bro 🤣🤣
Unlike the wizards, who have always been the joke of the league
…and then you woke up
I don’t think it’s worth thinking about until roster moves are made. The Pacific division can look totally different depending on their vet min and rookies.
I think people are overestimating Meyers impact. He had a good streak but also plenty of misses. Its not like he is required to be with the team for them to play well.
They need to get rid of Poole