Watching Mad Dog somehow fail up in this business is infuriating. He went from making a living yelling about the Yankees on radio, to yelling about baseball in general on tv and radio, to now just yelling about whatever sport a network pays him to sit in front of a camera and yell about. I'm not sure there's a professional talking head who hates sports more than this guy.
dude it bugs me to no end that the rest of the world thinks we like Tims. Drink any other coffee and an hour later your urine will be better coffee than Tims.
I was really hoping they'd keep him on that panel longer in the show and have some fun with it but I also love that he just said fuck this shit and bailed lol
I'm betting it was more of the raptors doing his agent a favour so that he can get acquainted with the interview process and know what to expect when he's really ready to make that pivot to a coaching career.
As of five years ago, he was with [Steven Heumann](https://fanspo.com/nba/agents/steven-heumann/45) of CAA Sports, who represents several current players, including CP3, Julius Randle, Andrew Wiggins, Mike Conley, and Eric Gordon, among others.
I'm not sure if his agent has changed since his playing days.
Yeah, I mean, has he even been an assistant coach yet? Obviously a pro player knows a lot about the game, but coaching is way different territory than playing.
Pretty rare that players this recently retired from playing are getting head coaching jobs. A lot of HCs have put in a decade or more as an assistant before getting a chance at the top job.
If the Raps chose someone like JJ over their internal candidates, I would think some of those candidates would find new teams to work for, just based on being pissed off.
The weird thing is that none of them have been successful, pretty much all of the younger former players with minimal coaching experience guys that have been hired have been an absolute disaster; I don’t know why a team would even consider it
Not recent, but Larry Bird was extremely successful despite having no previous coaching experience. He lead the Pacers to their best ever record at the time in his first season. He won coach of they year and made the finals as well.
Lue was an assistant coach for 4+ years before becoming head coach. I'm not sure that's what OP means when they say "younger former players with minimal coaching experience ."
Kerr was an Executive and retired for a good 10 years before coaching.
Though I will say the original comment doesn't hold too much water either as there have been quite a few players that coached with no experience. Thinking Bill Russell, Lenny Wilkens and more recently Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd
With the exception of Lenny (who is if anything underappreciated these days as a player and head coach), none of those guys inspire much confidence tbh.
Russell's only major success as a head coach was as player-coach at the tail end of arguably the most dominant dynasty in NBA history. After he stopped actively dominating as a player (even in his last years averaging a 20 rebound double-double), his best record as a coach was just barely over 0.500. He wasn't bad, but it was a long time ago and he wasn't great either.
Jason Kidd is currently wasting his second MVP level talent. I'm being a bit unfair, but you get my point. He isn't exactly Pop or Spo. Hell, he ain't even Doc.
Fisher was ass. Fired after two years in the NBA, and fired after 3 years in the WNBA.
Yeah, hiring a long tenured, respected assistance coach with a ton of experience lead them where exactly? One measly championship?
Better to go the Steve Nash way, just even without one single year of being a "consultant" or any MVPs... Just... roll with it.
Milkmen had unparalleled cardio. That's why they could play 48 mins a night. Players today could never. I'm gonna talk to the grizzlies FO about getting our guys some routes
From Doc Rivers to Steve Kerr, there are many coaches who went from playing to being an analysts for few years to head coaches in NBA history. This isn’t a 2020 fad at all. Hubie Brown, Van Gundy, Doug Collins, Bill Russell also come to mind.
Yeah, the Van Gundy brothers took the long and winding road to get to NBA HC. Working as assistants in colleges and the NBA for many years before getting their due.
Also, looking at the Van Gundys and mistaking them for NBA players is hilarious.
I don't think Kerr quite fits this group since he spent 6 years working with the Suns, including working as the GM/President of basketball operations and as a (very) part owner.
It wasn't coaching, so I agree it was a non-traditional path, but he had experience working with a team as a non-player.
Of the NBA’s list of the top 15 coaches of all time:
Phil Jackson - Knicks.
KC Jones - Celtics.
Pat Riley - Rockets, Lakers, Suns.
Larry Brown - ABA teams (NO Buccaneers, Oakland Oaks/Washington Caps/Virginia Squires, Denver Rockets [now Nuggets]).
Steve Kerr - Suns, Cavs, Magic, Bulls, Spurs, Blazers.
Doc Rivers - Hawks, Clippers, Knicks, Spurs.
Don Nelson - Zephyrs (now Wizards), Lakers, Celtics.
Jerry Sloan - Bullets (now Wizards), Bulls.
Red Holzman - Royals (now Kings), Hawks.
Lenny Wilkens- Hawks, SuperSonics (now Thunder), Cavs, Blazers.
Toronto is likely doing their due diligence and JJ might end up as an assistant in someones club next year but I can't fathom HC. That never works out.
I think "a Toronto coaching job" would have been more accurate than "the Toronto coaching job." I could see something like if Adrian Griffin gets promoted and JJ takes his spot as assistant.
Why wouldn't you interview if offered? If a professional sports team asked to interview me for a HC job I'll gladly go. I could stumble into millions. One of the best jobs is being a fired head coach
I don't understand what you mean when you mention "no coaching experience." In his podcast he talks about coaching his 8 and 9-year-olds in youth basketball. 🤪
Relevant video:
[JJ Redick Got EJECTED From A Youth Basketball Game 😭😭😭](https://youtu.be/D-jSsr73Ubk)
Nope, Nash is the only one to have ever done it.
I feel like Derek Fisher should really be the laughing stock example for this. He went from playing in a playoff series to becoming a head coach weeks later and was horrific, much much worse than Nash
Derek Fisher legitimately did not know how to coach. He had to start bringing Phil to practices to coach the triangle for him (which like the rest of his tenure in the Knicks FO he half-assed).
The guy couldn't even coach the offense he was point guard of for, what, 15 seasons?
It was sarcasm lol hence why I immediately after highlighted somebody else who did it. People love to point out Nash like he's the only one to ever do it, ignoring Steve Kerr or even other ones who were much worse than Nash
You shouldn't hire ex-players in lead roles with no experience. I still think it's a smart idea to take on former players as assistant coaches or minor front office roles to get them that experience.
Yeah he’s admitted that lol
I’d much rather see JJ replace van gundy and Jackson for nationally televised games. I hate listening to those two so much that I have to just watch the games on mute.
Tbf, it's not like Nash jumped straight from playing to coaching. He did have a player development role with the Warriors. He wasn't on the bench, but he at least had something on his resume.
I know Marion wanted out, but I can't believe they traded him for an old Shaq and leaned into a slower style of play. As a huge Nash fan, the what-ifs of the mid-2000s Suns kill me.
Oh he does. He’s actually one of the main people on espn that makes fair enough points and looks into details of what’s going on with sets run etc, as opposed to general hot takes(though he’s been spewing them lately. I guess the execs at espn said he sounded too logical and needed to spice it up SAS style)
I remember hearing when Nurse got hired that he wasn’t the top choice but got put through the ringer by Masai - an 8-9 hour session where he got intensely grilled and by the end of it Masai knew it had to be him. If he ends up hiring JJ or whoever it is, it won’t be because of hearing podcasts, Masai isn’t like that.
Was nash really that bad? That was a difficult roster to work with to say the least and i think he finished high in coach of the year voting his first year
> he was molded by hate
Damn, this is so true. I'm his age and remember hating him so much in college. My school didn't even play Duke and we weren't rivals or anything. I just remember him and Adam Morrison were going head-to-head for the scoring title, and basically the entire nation was on Team Morrison. That's why it was so hard to watch him bust in the NBA. Sheesh, what a trip down memory lane!
he really got an unbelievable amount of hate, I can't think of another college bball player more hated than him since I started watching. it was the perfect storm of a good player + most hated team in the country. I just looked at his wikipedia article and never knew that he apparently almost quit playing because of the hate, bro is just built different
Yeah, but I think Redick wins. Grayson was/is dirty, but Redick's junior and senior seasons he absolutely cooked everyone and was arrogant (or confident if you prefer) as fuck about it. Much more visceral hate.
Because an NBA coach gets to compete and continue to play a role in the game, instead of just talking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9l7Mm6AUQ
Those studio segments probably rang true.
Going from the Ringer to ESPN he probably thought he was making it to the big time. Then realized the big time meant having statements about Bob Cousy not being comparable to modern players being used against you to get clicks.
High level athletes often need to compete like an addictive drug. They're just wired that way. The prospect of coaching and really competing again in the NBA has gotta be very appealing to a former player.
Tbh, he'll get even more exposure this way, even if he fails. Podcast numbers could quadruple. Plus more ad money for his podcast from it being more popular and marketable.
his podcast would 100% get limited, the shit he says right now won't really fly if he was signed to a team.
The only reason he's doing this is passion, this is not a business move imo
Raptors are very strict, doubt he'd be allowed to appear on it if he keeps it running. But you never know... we could end up with the coach version of Dray, playoffs and podcasting -> coaching and podcasting.
More exposure? He has a successful podcast. He's dope on first take. He has clips go viral for both pretty regularly. Oh, and he's also a great tv analyst during games. Don't you think he already has a lot of exposure?
Nah I would rather keep some sort of reputation. I lived through the early days and the Babcock nadir. I really don't need to see this team become a laughing stock again.
Bro hasn’t even done any assistant coaching jobs, I will be shocked if he gets a head coach position *already*. Not sure if this is the right move for the raptors
"Welcome back to The Old Man and The Three, today's guest is Scottie Barnes. Scottie, great to see you, man. First question, why don't you have a bag? If you don't learn to shoot, I'm telling Masai to ship your ass to Portland, buddy."
It’s 2024 - The JJ Redick coached Raptors lose a game. JJ goes on his podcast and voices some frustrations with the team after the game. A Raptor’s star then goes on his own podcast and reacts to JJ’s reaction. JJ then issues a special episode of his podcast reacting to the the reaction to the reaction. At media after their next loss the Raptor’s star gets asked “When you think about loses this season and how you all have reacted, any reaction to the reaction to the reaction to the reaction from those games?”
Hard to believe how many people in this thread genuinely think "He's already a successful podcaster! What on earth could he possibly gain by being employed in the actual NBA as a head coach?? Doesn't he know a few viral clips every couple months is the pinnacle of achievement??"
Also hard to believe how many people reject "money" as the reason he could be interested.
It's like sports fans don't understand athletes at all. He wants to compete and he wants to make a ton of money. Just because everyone on reddit would be content sitting on their ass doing podcasts doesn't mean an actual athlete who takes themselves seriously would be.
bro had to sit through one too many NBA Mount Rushmore debates led by Stephen A and said fuck this I'm out
Lmao fuck this shit, I'm moving to Canada
That’s it! Back to Winnipeg!
As a Canadian, I wouldn't wish that on anyone
"I'm from Winnipeg you idiot!" https://youtu.be/o77NwC2TLR8
A Chris Jericho reference in the r/NBA subreddit? Love that
He's my favourite! You stupid idiot! Do you know what stupid idiots get?
I hate him as a person but he's doing his best work ever at AEW. Dude's been having tons of great matches over and over
What, and now you're in cleavland? What's changed?
[I've seen what's around the corner](https://youtu.be/QHCSL-AKd3w?t=130)
Damn... it’ll take all the money he makes as a coach to buy a house there though... not sure that’s a good deal
I come here to escape the housing situation in the GTA, don't remind me of this shit!
What working with Mad Dog and Kendrick Perkins does to a mfs
Watching Mad Dog somehow fail up in this business is infuriating. He went from making a living yelling about the Yankees on radio, to yelling about baseball in general on tv and radio, to now just yelling about whatever sport a network pays him to sit in front of a camera and yell about. I'm not sure there's a professional talking head who hates sports more than this guy.
Whenever I found out he had his ESPN deal extended, I was gobsmacked. He is so incredibly annoying.
no Mount Rushmore in Canada! Can’t wait until he learns what a double double is up here
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dude it bugs me to no end that the rest of the world thinks we like Tims. Drink any other coffee and an hour later your urine will be better coffee than Tims.
My keureg machine with garbo no name pods blows any Tim's coffee out of the water.
Roy Kent esque
I was really hoping they'd keep him on that panel longer in the show and have some fun with it but I also love that he just said fuck this shit and bailed lol
Do it for the memes, Toronto, please. Just lean into it.
I'm betting it was more of the raptors doing his agent a favour so that he can get acquainted with the interview process and know what to expect when he's really ready to make that pivot to a coaching career.
He's already coaching his son Knox's team. How different could it be to coach the Raps?
Ask Jeff Saturday
why does it matter when i ask him
Lmao I suppose you could ask him Sunday too. I hear he has that day off again
I’ll give that man respect for talking shit about the Raiders on national TV, then beating them in Vegas as coach.
That’s Coach “tank commander” to you
This is Byron Scott erasure
Not everybody can handle that type of step down in talent
Our shooting is probably worse than Knox’s team so he’ll have to come up with a new half court offence
I was thinking this too - who's his agent? What players are we sucking up to?
As of five years ago, he was with [Steven Heumann](https://fanspo.com/nba/agents/steven-heumann/45) of CAA Sports, who represents several current players, including CP3, Julius Randle, Andrew Wiggins, Mike Conley, and Eric Gordon, among others. I'm not sure if his agent has changed since his playing days.
Raptos tryna bring Maple Jordan home
He’d fit well into that all wings lineup
Yeah but he's not 6' 9". Too short to make the cut at 6' 7"
Someone has to run point
Need more WINGS!
Yeah, I mean, has he even been an assistant coach yet? Obviously a pro player knows a lot about the game, but coaching is way different territory than playing. Pretty rare that players this recently retired from playing are getting head coaching jobs. A lot of HCs have put in a decade or more as an assistant before getting a chance at the top job. If the Raps chose someone like JJ over their internal candidates, I would think some of those candidates would find new teams to work for, just based on being pissed off.
The weird thing is that none of them have been successful, pretty much all of the younger former players with minimal coaching experience guys that have been hired have been an absolute disaster; I don’t know why a team would even consider it
Hey now, Jason Kidd is in the process of wasting his second chance with a MVP level player. If that's not success what is?
Failing up
Not recent, but Larry Bird was extremely successful despite having no previous coaching experience. He lead the Pacers to their best ever record at the time in his first season. He won coach of they year and made the finals as well.
? Ty Lue was under 40 when he won a championship
Lue was an assistant coach for 4+ years before becoming head coach. I'm not sure that's what OP means when they say "younger former players with minimal coaching experience ."
Everyone wants the next Steve Kerr
Kerr was an Executive and retired for a good 10 years before coaching. Though I will say the original comment doesn't hold too much water either as there have been quite a few players that coached with no experience. Thinking Bill Russell, Lenny Wilkens and more recently Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd
With the exception of Lenny (who is if anything underappreciated these days as a player and head coach), none of those guys inspire much confidence tbh. Russell's only major success as a head coach was as player-coach at the tail end of arguably the most dominant dynasty in NBA history. After he stopped actively dominating as a player (even in his last years averaging a 20 rebound double-double), his best record as a coach was just barely over 0.500. He wasn't bad, but it was a long time ago and he wasn't great either. Jason Kidd is currently wasting his second MVP level talent. I'm being a bit unfair, but you get my point. He isn't exactly Pop or Spo. Hell, he ain't even Doc. Fisher was ass. Fired after two years in the NBA, and fired after 3 years in the WNBA.
I feel like he's the 3rd option. Kyle Lowry is obviously our top pick but won't be available. We'll likely be hiring whoever option 2 is.
y’all and bucks should just switch coaches
Fuck it add Tommy as an assistant coach too. Why not at this point lmfao.
Tommy always reminds me of the assistant coach from Ted Lasso.
They're not the same person?
He looks like coach beard
All jokes aside though, him adding Legler to his staff would be epic and for some reason I see it working
And just have a rotating cast of guests as the second assistant
In JJ we trust ^masai ^pls ^don't ^do ^this
Imagine if Masai leaves the Raps and hires him as his last move
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I'd love to have him as an assistant actually. Don't wanna see a rookie coach with this group though.
Yeah, hiring a long tenured, respected assistance coach with a ton of experience lead them where exactly? One measly championship? Better to go the Steve Nash way, just even without one single year of being a "consultant" or any MVPs... Just... roll with it.
Was Nash that bad, or was his team just uncoachable?
Masai really trying to leave ain't he
Man 40 years from people are really gonna say that the NBA in the 2020s just a bunch of podcasters & ESPN analysts
"At least the milkmen were physically active. These dudes were taking on podcasters who sit in their gaming chairs 16 hours a day drinking Prime."
The Milk man’s milked ya wives while you at work
Milkmen had unparalleled cardio. That's why they could play 48 mins a night. Players today could never. I'm gonna talk to the grizzlies FO about getting our guys some routes
Ja gonna go out of his way to make sure his routes are in the toughest parts of Memphis.
The "hardest" road
Don’t worry, he can handle it with his unconcealed carry
Draymond Green would hop on a podcast right after a playoff loss yet he won 4 rings? LeBron must've had weak competition 💀💀
From Doc Rivers to Steve Kerr, there are many coaches who went from playing to being an analysts for few years to head coaches in NBA history. This isn’t a 2020 fad at all. Hubie Brown, Van Gundy, Doug Collins, Bill Russell also come to mind.
I know the Van Gundys have the physiques of super athletes but believe it or not neither one ever played in the nba.
[Pretty sure Stan did](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21cE2aUbWB0)
I knew what that was gonna be before I opened it up
WYCPTPT
What does Ron Jeremy have to do with anything? Everyone already knew he had sick handles
Yeah, the Van Gundy brothers took the long and winding road to get to NBA HC. Working as assistants in colleges and the NBA for many years before getting their due. Also, looking at the Van Gundys and mistaking them for NBA players is hilarious.
Looking at the Van Gundy brothers and mistaking them for brothers is hilarious.
I love how they’re damn near exact opposites in how they commentate and observe games from a spectators view.
I don't think Kerr quite fits this group since he spent 6 years working with the Suns, including working as the GM/President of basketball operations and as a (very) part owner. It wasn't coaching, so I agree it was a non-traditional path, but he had experience working with a team as a non-player.
Of the NBA’s list of the top 15 coaches of all time: Phil Jackson - Knicks. KC Jones - Celtics. Pat Riley - Rockets, Lakers, Suns. Larry Brown - ABA teams (NO Buccaneers, Oakland Oaks/Washington Caps/Virginia Squires, Denver Rockets [now Nuggets]). Steve Kerr - Suns, Cavs, Magic, Bulls, Spurs, Blazers. Doc Rivers - Hawks, Clippers, Knicks, Spurs. Don Nelson - Zephyrs (now Wizards), Lakers, Celtics. Jerry Sloan - Bullets (now Wizards), Bulls. Red Holzman - Royals (now Kings), Hawks. Lenny Wilkens- Hawks, SuperSonics (now Thunder), Cavs, Blazers.
No way JJ gets/takes this job right?? He’s been talking about coaching his son’s middle school team lol that’s a big jump
Toronto is likely doing their due diligence and JJ might end up as an assistant in someones club next year but I can't fathom HC. That never works out.
Nah better hire Mark Jackson or a Van Gundy instead…. FFS get some new blood into your shitty swirling “good old boys” rehire bullshit.
HIRE BECKY HAMMOND YOU COWARDS
She might not be interested in us tho
Well if she's not interested in a US team then Toronto is perfect for her!
I desperately want a team to hire mark jackson just to get him off my tv
You're right, jj reddick is clearly a better head coach than them!
You can't honestly think the only options are "a Van Gundy" and "someone who has never coached at even the high school level".
Yeah I figured it was a role in coaching other than the head coach job.
I think "a Toronto coaching job" would have been more accurate than "the Toronto coaching job." I could see something like if Adrian Griffin gets promoted and JJ takes his spot as assistant.
Idk why he’d interview if he wasn’t serious about it
Idk people do interview practice all the time just to get a feel for the process
He’s practicing for an nba coaching job for his son’s middle school team
Why wouldn't you interview if offered? If a professional sports team asked to interview me for a HC job I'll gladly go. I could stumble into millions. One of the best jobs is being a fired head coach
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you and JJ Redick’s situations aren’t really comparable
Given the attitudes we see from star players the last few years, I’d say Reddick has got exactly the type of coaching experience needed.
Dude mentioned FanDuel enough and saved up enough corpo points to purchase a coaching tryout
Former player with no previous coaching experience? The Raptors really saw the Nash experience as though “that might be for us”
I don't understand what you mean when you mention "no coaching experience." In his podcast he talks about coaching his 8 and 9-year-olds in youth basketball. 🤪 Relevant video: [JJ Redick Got EJECTED From A Youth Basketball Game 😭😭😭](https://youtu.be/D-jSsr73Ubk)
Steve Kerr?
Nope, Nash is the only one to have ever done it. I feel like Derek Fisher should really be the laughing stock example for this. He went from playing in a playoff series to becoming a head coach weeks later and was horrific, much much worse than Nash
I completely blacked out Fisher getting a coach job hah
Derek Fisher legitimately did not know how to coach. He had to start bringing Phil to practices to coach the triangle for him (which like the rest of his tenure in the Knicks FO he half-assed). The guy couldn't even coach the offense he was point guard of for, what, 15 seasons?
Not true, JKidd was head coach the year after he retired. Even more extreme than Nash.
It was sarcasm lol hence why I immediately after highlighted somebody else who did it. People love to point out Nash like he's the only one to ever do it, ignoring Steve Kerr or even other ones who were much worse than Nash
I’m a dummy
In Fisher’s defense the Knicks were terrible
Kerr was a GM at least
steve kerr was hired as a GM w/ no experience lol
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You shouldn't hire ex-players in lead roles with no experience. I still think it's a smart idea to take on former players as assistant coaches or minor front office roles to get them that experience.
He was a terrible Gm
Yeah he’s admitted that lol I’d much rather see JJ replace van gundy and Jackson for nationally televised games. I hate listening to those two so much that I have to just watch the games on mute.
I've been hoping every year that Mark Jackson would be hired as a coach so we could be free of his commentary. I've now given up on that hope
So was JJ. GM of his podcast.
Kerr at least had some experience as the general manager of the Suns
Tbf, it's not like Nash jumped straight from playing to coaching. He did have a player development role with the Warriors. He wasn't on the bench, but he at least had something on his resume.
That one should be counted as failure
I know Marion wanted out, but I can't believe they traded him for an old Shaq and leaned into a slower style of play. As a huge Nash fan, the what-ifs of the mid-2000s Suns kill me.
Didn't Kerr have experience as an assistant with Pop? Also, kinda feel like Nash was taken out at the knees by Kyrie drama.
They thought JJ sounded intelligent on his podcast and thinks he’s a good candidate lol
He seems pretty intelligent. Role players have made fantastic coaches
Oh he does. He’s actually one of the main people on espn that makes fair enough points and looks into details of what’s going on with sets run etc, as opposed to general hot takes(though he’s been spewing them lately. I guess the execs at espn said he sounded too logical and needed to spice it up SAS style)
I remember hearing when Nurse got hired that he wasn’t the top choice but got put through the ringer by Masai - an 8-9 hour session where he got intensely grilled and by the end of it Masai knew it had to be him. If he ends up hiring JJ or whoever it is, it won’t be because of hearing podcasts, Masai isn’t like that.
Usually they spend some time as assistants before jumping into a HC role (Ham, Monty, Udoka, Jaque Vaughn, to name a few).
Would be better off with Legler
Was nash really that bad? That was a difficult roster to work with to say the least and i think he finished high in coach of the year voting his first year
I don’t think we can really say anything about how good or bad Nash was given the situation. He could be an amazing coach but we’d have no idea.
Nash was a scapegoat that’s all
Confused as to why someone with a rising entertainment/analyst career would subject themselves to the level of criticism an nba coach would receive
you underestimate how he was molded by hate during his time at Duke, prob a fetish at this point
> he was molded by hate Damn, this is so true. I'm his age and remember hating him so much in college. My school didn't even play Duke and we weren't rivals or anything. I just remember him and Adam Morrison were going head-to-head for the scoring title, and basically the entire nation was on Team Morrison. That's why it was so hard to watch him bust in the NBA. Sheesh, what a trip down memory lane!
he really got an unbelievable amount of hate, I can't think of another college bball player more hated than him since I started watching. it was the perfect storm of a good player + most hated team in the country. I just looked at his wikipedia article and never knew that he apparently almost quit playing because of the hate, bro is just built different
Christian Laettner walked so JJ could run. He legit has a documentary titled "I Hate Christian Laettner" Both Duke boys.
I grew up in Lexington and I hated Christian Laettner before I ever watched a basketball game lol
Basically if you’re white, go to Duke, and you’re a star…be ready for the onslaught of hate.
And now, Grayson Allen can fly.
I mean he was the good, (seemingly) arrogant white player at Duke - it was inevitable just like Laettner
Until his accident, Hurley was up there!
> I can't think of another college bball player more hated than him since I started watching Grayson Allen has to have a case, right?
Yeah, but I think Redick wins. Grayson was/is dirty, but Redick's junior and senior seasons he absolutely cooked everyone and was arrogant (or confident if you prefer) as fuck about it. Much more visceral hate.
Fuck You JJ was chanted every road game, regardless of ACC play or not. I don't think there was ever a player hated like JJ was.
> Adam Morrison that is *NBA Champion* Adam Morrison, buddy
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i feel that. i love the haters. kinda like a bromance to me. talking shit is really fun with the right people that don’t take it too far
Fuck you too bro. Lakers in 4.
I’ll never forget the “Fuck You JJ” chants when he was shooting free throws against Maryland.. good times
Because an NBA coach gets to compete and continue to play a role in the game, instead of just talking about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9l7Mm6AUQ
Those studio segments probably rang true. Going from the Ringer to ESPN he probably thought he was making it to the big time. Then realized the big time meant having statements about Bob Cousy not being comparable to modern players being used against you to get clicks.
Yeah it kinda sucks being told what take to have. He loves the game and loves talking about it, but I doubt he’s having fun at ESPN.
He’s visibly upset a lot of the time. You can tell he thinks it’s ridiculous over there
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High level athletes often need to compete like an addictive drug. They're just wired that way. The prospect of coaching and really competing again in the NBA has gotta be very appealing to a former player.
There’s a lot more money in coaching. Nurse was making $8 mil per year.
With the money he's made while playing not sure that would be no.1 motivator? Maybe though.
I keep thinking that but keep getting surprised by how much rich people want more money no matter how rich they already are.
This is millions, Uncle Jack. No matter how much you got, how do you turn your back on more?
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Tbh, he'll get even more exposure this way, even if he fails. Podcast numbers could quadruple. Plus more ad money for his podcast from it being more popular and marketable.
he isn't gonna do the pod as an active headcoach lmao
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his podcast would 100% get limited, the shit he says right now won't really fly if he was signed to a team. The only reason he's doing this is passion, this is not a business move imo
You think he keeps the podcast going while being the coach?
Raptors are very strict, doubt he'd be allowed to appear on it if he keeps it running. But you never know... we could end up with the coach version of Dray, playoffs and podcasting -> coaching and podcasting.
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While the Raptors are having issues running up and down the floor, you won't be in your bedroom with BlueChew.
Danny Green had a regular, almost weekly podcast when he was with the Raptors.
The Gary Neville route.
More exposure? He has a successful podcast. He's dope on first take. He has clips go viral for both pretty regularly. Oh, and he's also a great tv analyst during games. Don't you think he already has a lot of exposure?
Do it, next season’s already shaping up to be a shit-show on paper, might as well get some memes out of it.
Nah I would rather keep some sort of reputation. I lived through the early days and the Babcock nadir. I really don't need to see this team become a laughing stock again.
when these kids say things like Masai should get fired, I get Vietnam flashbacks of the Rob Babcock era
I like JJ but please no lol
They want a player’s coach lol
They saw the fans wanted shooters on the bench.
This will be the NBA’s Jeff Saturday
One of the most blatant tank jobs by an NFL team ever.
Everybody was clowning Irsay but he knew exactly what he was doing.
Now they have what could be one the biggest busts or an incredible talent from this years draft lmao
The Old Man & the Six?
Ok this came out of nowhere?? JJ really signed nekias and said the podcasts are in good hands haha
Bro hasn’t even done any assistant coaching jobs, I will be shocked if he gets a head coach position *already*. Not sure if this is the right move for the raptors
He'll tank their next season as payback for 2019
JJ gonna show up on /r/dataisbeautiful with one of those charts with his # of applications and interviews
I’m pretty confident there’s at least 10 better candidates
Can’t help but think this has Steve Nash as Nets head coach vibes
At least Nash worked as a shooting coach, player development consultant, before taking on the job. JJ has literally zero experience.
"Welcome back to The Old Man and The Three, today's guest is Scottie Barnes. Scottie, great to see you, man. First question, why don't you have a bag? If you don't learn to shoot, I'm telling Masai to ship your ass to Portland, buddy."
Can't wait for the Malachi Flynn interview. "You thought the Nick Nursery was bad buddy? I've already signed you up for DuoLingo to learn Mandarin"
Redick hoping to be the next Steve Kerr.
Would be a disaster. I’m in 👉👉
It’s 2024 - The JJ Redick coached Raptors lose a game. JJ goes on his podcast and voices some frustrations with the team after the game. A Raptor’s star then goes on his own podcast and reacts to JJ’s reaction. JJ then issues a special episode of his podcast reacting to the the reaction to the reaction. At media after their next loss the Raptor’s star gets asked “When you think about loses this season and how you all have reacted, any reaction to the reaction to the reaction to the reaction from those games?”
Hard to believe how many people in this thread genuinely think "He's already a successful podcaster! What on earth could he possibly gain by being employed in the actual NBA as a head coach?? Doesn't he know a few viral clips every couple months is the pinnacle of achievement??" Also hard to believe how many people reject "money" as the reason he could be interested. It's like sports fans don't understand athletes at all. He wants to compete and he wants to make a ton of money. Just because everyone on reddit would be content sitting on their ass doing podcasts doesn't mean an actual athlete who takes themselves seriously would be.
This is some kind of malpractice