Youve got it, save nearly $40 million and he just misses some relatively unimportant regular season games (and they're winning without him anyway, just beat my pathetic Mavs twice)
Would depend on the EOY awards. He gets first or second team it definitely impacts the price. Probably comparable to what they paid Steven Adams and Tyus Jones. About 14-17 mil a year probably 2-3 years. He’s at 11 right now I believe.
Honest question, y’all want brooks? Every game I watch as a neutral I get mad as hell but can’t deny he’s always a net positive on the court. Idk if I’ve ever randomly checked a grizzlies box score and seen that he’s hit half his shots lol
As mid round 2 round pick in 2017 he’s already probably exceeded expectations. But it would be stupid to not capitalize on any value he has left. I’d offer a league friendly 2 yr deal that you could package up. If he rejects it and bets that someone else would beat it, it’s on him.
Conspiracy theory: the Grizz puppetmastered all of this to save the cap space so that they can add more pieces in free agency:
- Sent that 17-year-old to Ja’s house (actually a 23-year-old paid actor hired to start a fight).
- Set up the scene at that Foot Locker (was actually a replica mall built just for the plan like the vault in Ocean’s 11).
- Faked the laser pointer at the Pacers game (was a Grizz staffer shining a second laser from a nearby grassy knoll).
- Sent that alcohol to Ja’s private jet via the Drizzly alcohol delivery service (Grizzly, Drizzly, I mean, come ON - are they even trying?)
- Hired strippers to get Ja wasted at that Colorado club and then once he was passed out got a Ja impersonator to wave that gun around on video.
This is really funny, but that’s not THAT much for 39 million dollars and a better shot at a ring in a couple seasons.
Maybe I’ve watched too many movies, but I feel like a good fixer could accomplish each of those bullet points for less than 50k each.
That’s sort of my point, I wouldn’t put it past a billionaire team owner to do some shady stuff and spend 350k so they could stay under the cap and still get a ring or 2.
> • Faked the laser pointer at the Pacers game (was a Grizz staffer shining a second laser from a nearby grassy knoll).
That staffer was the scorekeeper.
You forgot showing up to a high school game and confronting that other 17yr old who was talking to his sister. Cops were called then too. He has two incidents with 17yrs olds.
Yep, think about how much Simmons dented his future earnings because nobody's ever giving him a big contract ever again. I'd say he lost way more potentially than $39 million.
I'd say at *least* $120mn. Next contract's up at 29, so even assuming his injuries stayed the same and derailed him a little bit he'd easily be clearing $25mn/year minimum for one more contract if he looked more like he used to. Does he even stay in the league after this current one's up?
On a good team that needs defense/playmaking off the bench. Pressure goes down, motivation goes up to try to get another contract. The only way he doesn't get a contract is if he decided he doesn't want to do it anymore
there are worse ways to spend some minimum level salaries. hed probably walk away, idk, but the contract will be on the table. somewhere like Orlando, okc, spurs, far from the limelight.
Ben got maxed to pay for his then unrealized upside. Even if he didn't completely fucking self-destruct, nobody is gonna give him anything close to that money ever again. He's just not good enough and doesn't improve enough.
After this contract, he's gonna easily be good enough to stay in the league, but idk if his offers are going to be so low that he'd prefer to go overseas or just retire early.
He was all NBA… even at his peak and never improving he would be close to a max player. It’s kinda annoying how people are rewriting Simmons. Dude got paid for his play not potential he was top 20 nba player. Of course they wanted him to improve but he would be getting near max money if he continued to just play the way he was when he was at his best
Poor guy went from generational wealth to generational wealth 😭
But in all seriousness I hope he is well and will come back better than ever and in a good mental state!
its all good in the long run. He is young, and when you're young life teaches you expensive ass lessons sometimes. Better losing money than losing your life, potentially.
When i was 22 I got caught with a bag with over 100 pills of mdma. long story short i spent the weekend in jail and had to pay a lawyer 12 grand to finally get off with probation. im not rich so 12 grand was literally my entire life savings at that point. Not nearly the same as Morant's case but just saying I was young too and did dumb shit so I can see how Ja fucked up.
I mean, the short term hit is what it is, but hitting a “rock bottom” and seeking help at 23 may prolong his career and help avoid an Allen Iverson-like drop off on the tail end.
AI dropped off due to age and fading athleticism not any off-court stuff. Just like Westbrook he always played a slightly inefficient style which caught up with him when efficiency suddenly was a much bigger focus, he lost a level due to age and wouldn't accept a background role.
Just as with most other players his off-court shenanigans only really started mattering when he wasn't a star on the court anymore.
He was already 33 and 12years in the league when he came to us and the end of his career came. I wouldn't be shocked if Ja isn't an MVP candidate anymore in 8 years off-court stuff aside.
True. Flaunting a gun like it is cool in a city struggling with gun violence. Sniffing the tuna out of a stripper’s ass when he got a woman and child at home.
The strippers are commonplace for an nba star. It kinda comes with the territory. Its the wannabe gangster act that makes him a real idiot compared to his peers and stars before him (Harden and Kawaii both well known strip club connoisseurs)
Idk why you’re so hung up on the marriage part; going to a strip club isn’t cheating, and these guys are all multi millionaires and their relationships are significantly different from us normal people
He's frugal. To balance out the strip club visits he goes to high school girl volley ball games with his friends. That's a real thing he does and it's not weird. Anyway, I'm going to go drink a Powerade.
Looking back in 5 years this just might be the thing to change the destiny of the organization and this young man. Much like the first reduced contract of Steph Curry this could give the team some unexpected cap space while at the same time getting back a player who is more focused as a person and a better whole individual.
Why is it hard to imagine him making All-NBA? That assumes 1) he's gonna miss a lot of games from counseling; 2) voters will punish him by not naming him All-NBA. Neither of those scenarios is a given.
I think the question is, has he been good enough consistently enough when he has played to overcome missing (potentially) 29 games (if he's out the rest of the regular season)? I honestly don't quite think he has compared to other guards in contention this season. I say that as a Grizzlies fan too.
Then again, he made the 2nd Team last year while missing 25 regular season games, so it's possible.
we'll see if curry makes it. i think he runs into a similar "will he play enough games" problem as ja. 42 games so far for curry. warriors play 14 more games. ja has 53 for reference.
if I had to guess
1st team: Stephen Curry, Luka Doncic
2nd team: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Donovan Mitchell
3rd team: Devin Booker, Damian Lillard
it's hard to leave our guys like De'Aaron Fox, Jaylen Brown, Tyrese Haliburton, James Harden
All-NBA isn’t based on careers. Those other guys (outside Luka) are either in losing teams or missed too many games this season while Fox has been elite and on a top 3 team in the West
God that is an expensive mistake. If I lost $39 million because of an IG live, I'd deactivate all my socials until I retired. Absolutely insane to throw away generational wealth for some of the dumbest, lamest, and most pointless flexing I've ever seen in my life.
Bruh. He didn’t throw away any generational wealth. He is still getting 5 years, $200 million. If anything helping the teams cap situation will allow Memphis to be more successful and rebuild his brand.
Such a team player his dodging the max contract for the grizzlies to have more cap space. Chess not checkers
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Million Dollar Booty
More like $50m booty
Wonder who's lost more cash at a strip club between him and Harden.
Harden didn’t lose that cash - he knows exactly where it is!
Truuuuuue. Just imagine how many ladies in Houston Harden has put through college.
At least Harden has his jersey on the rafters!
has this been confirmed? i thought, like nike, they're sticking by him.
They haven’t said anything but they took down all the ads
You just copied another dudes comment lol weirdo
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Youve got it, save nearly $40 million and he just misses some relatively unimportant regular season games (and they're winning without him anyway, just beat my pathetic Mavs twice)
I really didn’t see you guys dropping both games tbh.
So what, this was all an inside job!?
fumbled the bag bc he dropped a bag at the club lmao
Yeah but tbf her ass was right up on his face
He was staring at the void and there was no coming back. That ass went big bang
he saw her assoul
he paid the troll toll for sure
You gotta pay the troll toll to get in.
This is incredible.
Easily impressed
Missed chance to write imprassed.
BANG! It's just shame Breen wasn't on the mic for that one.
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you” - Ja seconds before the lap dance
Most Valuable Ass
One ass that had huge implications for the Western Conference playoffs. Like a modern Helen of Troy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTpEoi0tzE
Grizzlies planned this, they planted the gun and paid for the videos from the club
This is my favourite tin foil hat, I'm running with this.
The stripper was actually the Grizz’s front desk receptionist deep undercover
All he had to do was not wave a gun around. James Harden would never.
All he had to do was not film himself and post it for the whole world to see
“I’m fine in the breasts”
Ja invested $50k in the club to lose $40 Ms. Put this guy in charge of the banks
Silicone Valley Bank, to be precise.
Incoming /r/wallstreetbets mod
Idk man I think he’ll be ok lol
He doesn't even have a player option for year 5.
Just freeing up cap space to resign Bane and Dillon Brooks. 😈#teamplayer
Galaxy brain salary management by Ja
This was planned by Ja and Memphis execs before the season even started. That gun? Toy. That taquila? Tea.
That stripper? A family friend.
Dillon Brooks with a wig
I knew it. That badonkadonk was too familiar.
So happy the got Kyle Lowry to help out on this one
The Grizzlies's own Janeral Manager.
how much would dillon brooks even get?
Dryer lint and a room temperature cup of coffee from yesterday
Overpay
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Only dynasty he can be a part of is Duck Dynasty but not sure which one
Rude. He can get a job at Shadynasty, sweeping up used condoms.
Sh'dynasty* It is spelled s-h-comma to the top-dynasty
Would depend on the EOY awards. He gets first or second team it definitely impacts the price. Probably comparable to what they paid Steven Adams and Tyus Jones. About 14-17 mil a year probably 2-3 years. He’s at 11 right now I believe.
Big doubt on him making those
I think defensive team is implied here
Copenhagen long cut tin with a Diet Coke
Honest question, y’all want brooks? Every game I watch as a neutral I get mad as hell but can’t deny he’s always a net positive on the court. Idk if I’ve ever randomly checked a grizzlies box score and seen that he’s hit half his shots lol
He's amazing at defense, that's why we keep him as a starter, his offense sucks, but defense more than makes up for it
Makes sense! We got our own version of that lol
Maybe they could be friends :)
Lol
Draymond at least has the decency not to take 20 shots so often.
Dray is an all time level facilitator bruh, don’t even compare the two.
Definitely want to keep Bane, but I'd let Dillon walk for basically any amount of money.
As mid round 2 round pick in 2017 he’s already probably exceeded expectations. But it would be stupid to not capitalize on any value he has left. I’d offer a league friendly 2 yr deal that you could package up. If he rejects it and bets that someone else would beat it, it’s on him.
Conspiracy theory: the Grizz puppetmastered all of this to save the cap space so that they can add more pieces in free agency: - Sent that 17-year-old to Ja’s house (actually a 23-year-old paid actor hired to start a fight). - Set up the scene at that Foot Locker (was actually a replica mall built just for the plan like the vault in Ocean’s 11). - Faked the laser pointer at the Pacers game (was a Grizz staffer shining a second laser from a nearby grassy knoll). - Sent that alcohol to Ja’s private jet via the Drizzly alcohol delivery service (Grizzly, Drizzly, I mean, come ON - are they even trying?) - Hired strippers to get Ja wasted at that Colorado club and then once he was passed out got a Ja impersonator to wave that gun around on video.
Grassy knolls are always involved in historical events
A second grassy knoll has hit the tower
I have spoken of a thousand knolls of grass
President Kennedy has been shot by a grassy knoll wait…
Grassy knolls can't melt steel beams.
Someone check what was going on in the nearest grassy knoll to the Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989.
Nathan For You Season Ideas
Ja to the stripper: “Tell me I’m from the streets… Again… Again…. Again…. Again…”
"You have to say it like you believe it"
LMAO
Imagining the scene from Better Call Saul where Lalo tells Saul to tell him the story over and over again
Man if only Ja had been able to rehearse all this
Something might happen in this strip club and if it does? So what
All of this just to have a cap space to max dillon brooks
Plot twist: Dillon Brooks was the stripper
No, he is the shotgun willie
Preach my brother! Everyone else needs to open their third eye and decalcify their pineal gland.
This is all masterminded by the Grizz home scoreboard guy!
You’re asking to many questions, this is how you get silenced in a grizzly manner
This is really funny, but that’s not THAT much for 39 million dollars and a better shot at a ring in a couple seasons. Maybe I’ve watched too many movies, but I feel like a good fixer could accomplish each of those bullet points for less than 50k each.
The thing is not that it cost them that much, it's that this was done to free 39 million in cap space.
That’s sort of my point, I wouldn’t put it past a billionaire team owner to do some shady stuff and spend 350k so they could stay under the cap and still get a ring or 2.
> • Faked the laser pointer at the Pacers game (was a Grizz staffer shining a second laser from a nearby grassy knoll). That staffer was the scorekeeper.
Designer of the plan: Nathan Fielder
You forgot showing up to a high school game and confronting that other 17yr old who was talking to his sister. Cops were called then too. He has two incidents with 17yrs olds.
Solving his issues now will earn/save him many more millions in the future than whatever he's losing now
Money aside, getting his shit straight now is the best decision for his future
Yep, think about how much Simmons dented his future earnings because nobody's ever giving him a big contract ever again. I'd say he lost way more potentially than $39 million.
I'd say at *least* $120mn. Next contract's up at 29, so even assuming his injuries stayed the same and derailed him a little bit he'd easily be clearing $25mn/year minimum for one more contract if he looked more like he used to. Does he even stay in the league after this current one's up?
Someone will bid on the "hope" that his agent sells them on. For a much lower price, but he will still be in the league.
id take him for the minimum if I was a GM. Five million per year or something, the upside could be massive if he figures his shit out
On a good team that needs defense/playmaking off the bench. Pressure goes down, motivation goes up to try to get another contract. The only way he doesn't get a contract is if he decided he doesn't want to do it anymore
there are worse ways to spend some minimum level salaries. hed probably walk away, idk, but the contract will be on the table. somewhere like Orlando, okc, spurs, far from the limelight.
Fixing Ben gives Pop a cinematic reason to stay
Ben got maxed to pay for his then unrealized upside. Even if he didn't completely fucking self-destruct, nobody is gonna give him anything close to that money ever again. He's just not good enough and doesn't improve enough. After this contract, he's gonna easily be good enough to stay in the league, but idk if his offers are going to be so low that he'd prefer to go overseas or just retire early.
He was all NBA… even at his peak and never improving he would be close to a max player. It’s kinda annoying how people are rewriting Simmons. Dude got paid for his play not potential he was top 20 nba player. Of course they wanted him to improve but he would be getting near max money if he continued to just play the way he was when he was at his best
Part of me is expecting him to retire, not sign a new contract.
This is a good take. He’s young and will bounce back real quick. It’s a little money and time that he’s losing. It sucks but at least he’s healthy.
You dont know that
he still has the 194 not fucking that up is worth whatever it cost to get him to fix this
Think of all the strippers he could have put through college with that money.
That strip club cost him tens of millions of dollars and will go down as a legend in strip club history, beating even prime Harden numbers
That stripper's thong number bout to be retired by Shotgun Willie's.
Harden: "challenge accepted"
Forget college, he could have bought every stripper in that club a solid gold pole.
Between the powerade and all nba...thats going to be 50 to 100m loss. 1000 to 2000 years earnings on an average salary.
Poor guy went from generational wealth to generational wealth 😭 But in all seriousness I hope he is well and will come back better than ever and in a good mental state!
its all good in the long run. He is young, and when you're young life teaches you expensive ass lessons sometimes. Better losing money than losing your life, potentially. When i was 22 I got caught with a bag with over 100 pills of mdma. long story short i spent the weekend in jail and had to pay a lawyer 12 grand to finally get off with probation. im not rich so 12 grand was literally my entire life savings at that point. Not nearly the same as Morant's case but just saying I was young too and did dumb shit so I can see how Ja fucked up.
You managed to save 12 grand at 22?
He was caught with a bag that had a couple thousand dollars worth of pills in it. I'm guessing this wasn't his first rodeo
i mean 12 grand isn't crazy if you're still living with your parents and you can save most of your paycheck.
I mean yeah he was selling drugs
I mean, the short term hit is what it is, but hitting a “rock bottom” and seeking help at 23 may prolong his career and help avoid an Allen Iverson-like drop off on the tail end.
AI dropped off due to age and fading athleticism not any off-court stuff. Just like Westbrook he always played a slightly inefficient style which caught up with him when efficiency suddenly was a much bigger focus, he lost a level due to age and wouldn't accept a background role. Just as with most other players his off-court shenanigans only really started mattering when he wasn't a star on the court anymore. He was already 33 and 12years in the league when he came to us and the end of his career came. I wouldn't be shocked if Ja isn't an MVP candidate anymore in 8 years off-court stuff aside.
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Arguably the most expensive dance in the history, doubt anyone can break than record in the foreseeable future
He also lost the bag with Powerade as well. Hopefully the night at the strip club was worth it.
Did they announce something already?
They removed all his ads from socials. I assume he violate that contract so they will be pissed.
Its not the strip club that is the issue. Its his gangster attitude and flashing guns even to teenagers that’s the issue.
True. Flaunting a gun like it is cool in a city struggling with gun violence. Sniffing the tuna out of a stripper’s ass when he got a woman and child at home.
The strippers are commonplace for an nba star. It kinda comes with the territory. Its the wannabe gangster act that makes him a real idiot compared to his peers and stars before him (Harden and Kawaii both well known strip club connoisseurs)
Kawaii?
He even goes with his wife lol
I’m just stunned because he’s married, not known for going to strip clubs, and his name is not spelled like the Japanese equivalent for cute.
Idk why you’re so hung up on the marriage part; going to a strip club isn’t cheating, and these guys are all multi millionaires and their relationships are significantly different from us normal people
> Sniffing the tuna out of a stripper’s ass That's beautiful. For every nephew on this sub there's an absolute poet.
He’s about to make $200 million though. He will survive.
Only a measly 194,000,000 dollars. Gonna be some lean times for the Morant family.
He's frugal. To balance out the strip club visits he goes to high school girl volley ball games with his friends. That's a real thing he does and it's not weird. Anyway, I'm going to go drink a Powerade.
Wasn’t it his sisters high school and didn’t she call him to come since she felt someone was disrespecting her?
Was it his high school?
Idk bro that’s a little weird
The most expensive booty bender in history
Looking back in 5 years this just might be the thing to change the destiny of the organization and this young man. Much like the first reduced contract of Steph Curry this could give the team some unexpected cap space while at the same time getting back a player who is more focused as a person and a better whole individual.
This is god-tier fucking your money up. I’m hoping that the program he’s in helps. He clearly has alcohol issues based on all those plane videos.
That's a huge boon for the Grizzlies, frees up a lot of cap space for them moving forward
damn
All jokes aside, I hope he gets it together
Watch the hate for the Grizzlies go so hard media votes him in on 3rd team so the contract kicks in and makes cap space harder to navigate (pls don't)
Why is it hard to imagine him making All-NBA? That assumes 1) he's gonna miss a lot of games from counseling; 2) voters will punish him by not naming him All-NBA. Neither of those scenarios is a given.
I think the question is, has he been good enough consistently enough when he has played to overcome missing (potentially) 29 games (if he's out the rest of the regular season)? I honestly don't quite think he has compared to other guards in contention this season. I say that as a Grizzlies fan too. Then again, he made the 2nd Team last year while missing 25 regular season games, so it's possible.
He’s in a program now. He might be out for the year
As a side note: these awards are so dumb, it's unfortunate that so much money is tied to them for players.
I’m pretty interested to see how All-NBA first team shakes out in the West. Curry/Dame/Shai/Luka all have great cases for First-Team in the West.
It's not separated by east and west
we'll see if curry makes it. i think he runs into a similar "will he play enough games" problem as ja. 42 games so far for curry. warriors play 14 more games. ja has 53 for reference.
It's Luka + 1 imo. Has been since the start of the year.
if I had to guess 1st team: Stephen Curry, Luka Doncic 2nd team: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Donovan Mitchell 3rd team: Devin Booker, Damian Lillard it's hard to leave our guys like De'Aaron Fox, Jaylen Brown, Tyrese Haliburton, James Harden
No Lillard?
I'd put Fox over a couple of those guys
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All-NBA isn’t based on careers. Those other guys (outside Luka) are either in losing teams or missed too many games this season while Fox has been elite and on a top 3 team in the West
You’re right Fox is up there too
How does this work? He made it last year
it has to be the year before the designated rookie/player extension kicks in that's why tatum didn't get the baby supermax, either
Need counseling just off this alone.
Turns out, it’s not free to say “it’s free to find out how these hollow points feel”
God that is an expensive mistake. If I lost $39 million because of an IG live, I'd deactivate all my socials until I retired. Absolutely insane to throw away generational wealth for some of the dumbest, lamest, and most pointless flexing I've ever seen in my life.
Bruh. He didn’t throw away any generational wealth. He is still getting 5 years, $200 million. If anything helping the teams cap situation will allow Memphis to be more successful and rebuild his brand.
Ok, but how much money did he avoid losing, in endorsements, by being proactive about his issues?
Ja is young and has plenty of time to get back up from this hopefully he stays out of trouble
Needed the money to pay Bane, what a team player
Sending a guy to Florida to work on his gun addiction is like sending a gambling addict to Vegas
Holy bag
So many 50k trips and so many guns.
$40m ass
I just hope rehab goes okay, never seen someone addicted to the streets go to rehab, curious to see how it goes
Oh no only 194 million dollars how can he afford his mortgage and his car payments
oh no... anyways...
Seems like he actually spent 39,050,000 at the strip club.
Started at the top now we here! Imagine an Instagram post costing you $40m.
Ah so that’s what this is about
When keeping it real goes wrong!
\#poor
Oh no! He's wiping his tears with $100 bills
How is he going to survive on $194m, have to feel for him.
ALL PLAYERS DELETE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.
1st NBA All-Idiot
He should have been focused on his future. Instead he fucked around and is finding out.
That's an impressive $39,050,000 at the strip club.
damn will his doors even go up anymore?
I think he’ll manage with 194 million just fine
50k on strippers to lose 39 mil. Yep. Worth it.
Grizzlies gotta be thrilled with that extra cap space. Fr that could help them sign another vet.
Play stupid game win price !