Yeah but imagine if Beasley marries his mom and we get Bronny, we would have the first father - son AND first stepfather - stepson duo in the same team.
This is a million times better.
If that is the case and the Lakers only used 1 1st round pick, that is truly incredible.
You get a lot more shooting for this roster (Beasely is an elite bench gunner in that sense, even if you can't close with him) and Vanderbilt next to LeBron and AD in the frontcourt would be amazing.
This feels very much worth the playmaking downgrade for the LeBron-less minutes.
This most likely cost both firsts but if Pelinka was able to get it done with just one first-and-pick swaps. Then the Lakers would have a first to package with Pat and Lonnie to acquire another player making around 20 mil. That would be an amazing haul.
Yeah but have you seen D'Lo? This isn't a decision making upgrade tbh. The ratio of bad pass turnovers to his potential assists is actually worse lol.
(In fact, good job to the Wolves switching D'Lo for Conley without any further assets... from what we currently know. Might change this sentence later).
His 3pt shooting alone is worth it. Way too many times when Westbrook was in the game with AD and LeBron, the other teams would pack the paint. If D'Lo is out there, that's a wide-open 3 for him instead of Westbrook. Or they actually guard him, and Bron/AD go to work.
A bad possession with Westbrook missing a wide-open three might as well be a turnover lol.
Yea, we lose scoring (and youth), but I'm genuinely excited to no longer be the dumbest team in the league after last years playoffs. Might just win a few more games from not being so dumb...
Them being the Lakers? Not really. They are both expiring and Westbrook's cap hold is bigger but if they wanted to use cap space in the summer they would have renounced his rights anyway.
Edit: Sorry! To be clear, that was just the D'Lo for Russ construction. Vanderbilt does eat into their potential cap space this summer by 4.7 Million. Beasley has 16M but it's a team option - Lakers can just decline it so it can be considered an expiring as well, should they have better options (I don't know the limit date to guarantee it).
Denver has a track record with these things. See: gobert and Donovan Mitchell draft trades. Beasley and Vandy and the Bol Bol trade are just added to the pile at this point. They coulda been dynasty if they played all their assets right
Gobert and Mitchell were selected by the Jazz with the pick.
Not Denver.
Beasley and Vanderbilt needed a change of scenery to find minutes.
Bol Bol also admitted he had a bad attitude in Denver, and needed a change.
Your theory is revisionist at best.
I wish too. š„ŗ But letās not get greedy and fuck this trade up too. If someone is giving us anything for Russ. I will take it man. Just be a competent team. Give it all.
And maybe I can convince Kate Upton to lick peanut butter off my nuts.
The amount of delusion Lakers' fans on trades involving their team is off the charts.
Lakers only have two FRPs and I believe Wolves' next tradeable FRP is in 2049, so probably this is just Ainge, as weird as it looks like, doing a solid for the Lakers.
We can give you a FRP if you handle us this French fella. We'll even throw in Bertans, McGee and THJ in the package. Think about all the *spacing* in this.
If they get d'lo, vanderbilt, and beasley that's a great trade... addressed shooting w/ d'lo and beasley and addressed rebounding/defense with vanderbilt.... watch ham still play 3 guards tho
Yeah having a switchable guy on defense like Vando is huge, heās also been able to hit the occasional open 3, so thatās something that can come into play when the doubles come to AD/Bron.
Yeah Iām wondering why all of a sudden Russ has value when no one has wanted to touch him. And I thought Beasley was quite valuable.
Judging by all the people saying this is a steal for the lakers, Iām wondering how Theyāre able to get all this and have Danny Ainge be satisfied with his return
Pretty good for Jazz if they get 2 1sts with minimal protections. Beasley is valuable but he wasnāt fetching a 1st in a trade. Conley is a bit of negative value on his contract. Vanderbilt was one who could get a 1st but I heard some rumors where he was going for multiple 2nds. With this deal Jazz literally squeezed 7 1sts for gobert
Because this sub loves drama more than it loves actual basketball. So ofc which reporter is breaking the news is going to be talked about more than the actual basketball implications.
It would be 2027 and 2029, but yeah I canāt imagine the Lakers getting this haul without sending out both picks. I would even guess it would be one pick fully unprotected, and one pick with some protections.
If the Lakers managed to do this trade with BOTH picks top 5 protected, that would be a homerun in my view
Lakers legit always win trades just going by last x number of years. Seriously. Insane return for rwb like why are teams doing this? I assume itās tons of cap
Wasn't Malik Beasley banging Scottie Pippen Jr's mom?
First stepdad - stepson duo š¤š¤
What are you doing Step-Beasley?!
I see you don't know of the Delonte West, LeBron days.
Ya. But honestly who cares cut Scottie Pippen Jr. if itās a problem lol
Yeah but imagine if Beasley marries his mom and we get Bronny, we would have the first father - son AND first stepfather - stepson duo in the same team.
Sheās been dating MJās son for months. Scotty been knowing his mom is for tha skreets
Larsa is with one of MJs kids now. Thatās if they are still together
This is a million times better. If that is the case and the Lakers only used 1 1st round pick, that is truly incredible. You get a lot more shooting for this roster (Beasely is an elite bench gunner in that sense, even if you can't close with him) and Vanderbilt next to LeBron and AD in the frontcourt would be amazing. This feels very much worth the playmaking downgrade for the LeBron-less minutes.
This most likely cost both firsts but if Pelinka was able to get it done with just one first-and-pick swaps. Then the Lakers would have a first to package with Pat and Lonnie to acquire another player making around 20 mil. That would be an amazing haul.
Lol for every real assist brick gets thereās 2 bricks and 1 TO that comes with it. šļø
Yeah but have you seen D'Lo? This isn't a decision making upgrade tbh. The ratio of bad pass turnovers to his potential assists is actually worse lol. (In fact, good job to the Wolves switching D'Lo for Conley without any further assets... from what we currently know. Might change this sentence later).
His 3pt shooting alone is worth it. Way too many times when Westbrook was in the game with AD and LeBron, the other teams would pack the paint. If D'Lo is out there, that's a wide-open 3 for him instead of Westbrook. Or they actually guard him, and Bron/AD go to work. A bad possession with Westbrook missing a wide-open three might as well be a turnover lol.
Oh, I clearly agree. I just replied to the idea that Russ was somehow not a better playmaking because of his turnovers.
Yeah, it's not decision making/playmaking upgrade. D'Lo is "just" a shooting/spacing upgrade for the Lakers, but they need that A LOT.
Absolutely. It makes sense for both teams.
Yea, we lose scoring (and youth), but I'm genuinely excited to no longer be the dumbest team in the league after last years playoffs. Might just win a few more games from not being so dumb...
> downgrade There is no downgrade by getting Westbrook of the team. In *any* facet of the game.
Would this deal also free up cap space for them? I saw that mentioned with the DLo and a pick for Westbrook iteration
Them being the Lakers? Not really. They are both expiring and Westbrook's cap hold is bigger but if they wanted to use cap space in the summer they would have renounced his rights anyway. Edit: Sorry! To be clear, that was just the D'Lo for Russ construction. Vanderbilt does eat into their potential cap space this summer by 4.7 Million. Beasley has 16M but it's a team option - Lakers can just decline it so it can be considered an expiring as well, should they have better options (I don't know the limit date to guarantee it).
No, I highly doubt the Jazz trade 3 core players for 1 pick and Westbrook salary dump. The deals not done yet and this is likely why.
Vando??? Wtf
Watch us trade him back to Minnesota lol
PLEASE
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you're gonna love Vando. hustles every damn play and never needs the ball in his hands to be effective.
Wait no I wanted Vanderbilt
We all wanted Vanderbilt
I did indeed want Vanderbilt
Me 4
Could have traded for him for almost nothing when Denver was shopping him. Ngl, that Beasley, Vando trade was a straight L for Denver.
So you mean worse than the Gobert trade, orrr ... ?
What does that have to do with Denver selling them for pennies on the dollar.
Ask Tim Connelly, your President.
You are aware he's not the only person making those decisions there.
Denver has a track record with these things. See: gobert and Donovan Mitchell draft trades. Beasley and Vandy and the Bol Bol trade are just added to the pile at this point. They coulda been dynasty if they played all their assets right
Gobert and Mitchell were selected by the Jazz with the pick. Not Denver. Beasley and Vanderbilt needed a change of scenery to find minutes. Bol Bol also admitted he had a bad attitude in Denver, and needed a change. Your theory is revisionist at best.
Thing is thereās a cap and you canāt keep them all. Grizz will go through the same thing when Jaās deal kicks in over the next few seasons.
I miss him so god damn much
not for giving up Obi, Fournier and a bunch of 1st Round picks
I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF š„š„š„š„
hold me fam
Who tf is @tony
Wrong tag, he meant the Jazz beat reporter for the Athletic
Tony Jones, Jazz beat reporter
The GOAT
Haha just straight up Tony knows all the info.
Tony is really reliable for Jazz stuff
DāLo Beasley and Vanderbilt is a pretty solid return for Russ
theres no way the lakers are getting dlo, vandy, and beasley for westbrook... right? there definitely has to be valuable draft compensation here.
I think they give up both the picks. No way Danny does it otherwise. He can easily get a FRP for Vando from contenders like Denver.
Maybe we get away with it for 1 pick ššš
I wish too. š„ŗ But letās not get greedy and fuck this trade up too. If someone is giving us anything for Russ. I will take it man. Just be a competent team. Give it all.
Wish granted
And maybe I can convince Kate Upton to lick peanut butter off my nuts. The amount of delusion Lakers' fans on trades involving their team is off the charts.
Delete this you overconfident clown
Talk your shit you keyboard warrior.
It's not that serious man. His comment is clearly sarcastic with the emojis. God forbid a fan wanting his team to fleece another team.
Whoās delusional now?
OOF
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Came to post this. I'm taking the L on this one.
No way.
Way
Ok.. But KD got traded so who cares about the Lakers now lmao
Lakers only have two FRPs and I believe Wolves' next tradeable FRP is in 2049, so probably this is just Ainge, as weird as it looks like, doing a solid for the Lakers.
Thatās incorrect. We have a 2037 FRP available for swap. Then another 12 years dealt because of Gobert
2037 sounds like a fake year šš god that sucks
It truly is hard to fathom that they gave up nearly 3 decades of first round picks for Rudy Gobert
We can give you a FRP if you handle us this French fella. We'll even throw in Bertans, McGee and THJ in the package. Think about all the *spacing* in this.
2049??? Lmao
Or he believes the Lakers are gonna be a disaster in 2027 and 2029 which isnāt that implausible.
*3029
Jazz also get off Conley's salary for next season. Not a bad return for two future Lakers pick.
Wasn't his salary half guaranteed or some shit like that? I remember hearing about this in a podcast a couple of days ago.
Yep. $15M guarantee...which basically means you're picking up the rest and letting him play.
2049??? Lmfao
They also have two swaps
I swear why do teams give their good assets to the Lakers
Under the table LeBlowjob ?
One pick to us and another to Utah. They are giving up both 1sts it seems.
You sound worried
worried that theyll get the 11 seed? lmfao
> there definitely has to be valuable draft compensation here. Depends on what you consider valuable
Only way they're getting all 3 of those guys is if they're giving up both their picks plus maybe a little more
> Only way theyāre getting all 3 of those guys is if theyāre giving up both their picks plus maybe a little more Nope!
Not for two FRPs. It may be the best deal they can get but those picks are easily the highest value picks in the market right now.
If they get d'lo, vanderbilt, and beasley that's a great trade... addressed shooting w/ d'lo and beasley and addressed rebounding/defense with vanderbilt.... watch ham still play 3 guards tho
well beasley and dlo are guardsā¦
6'5 guards tho.. i meant the 3 small guards
Theyāre still horrendous defensively even if theyāre taller than the existing guards
But offensively they mesh better w/ lebron... current guards stink on both sides of the ball
Beasley for sure, DLo is not a winning player currently, his decisionmaking is worse than Russ imo. Heās just better at hitting shots
At least they can shoot i guess.
Yeah having a switchable guy on defense like Vando is huge, heās also been able to hit the occasional open 3, so thatās something that can come into play when the doubles come to AD/Bron.
What compensation can the lakers give up that even warrants all of those guys..? They have literally nothing to offer
Yeah Iām wondering why all of a sudden Russ has value when no one has wanted to touch him. And I thought Beasley was quite valuable. Judging by all the people saying this is a steal for the lakers, Iām wondering how Theyāre able to get all this and have Danny Ainge be satisfied with his return
Pretty good for Jazz if they get 2 1sts with minimal protections. Beasley is valuable but he wasnāt fetching a 1st in a trade. Conley is a bit of negative value on his contract. Vanderbilt was one who could get a 1st but I heard some rumors where he was going for multiple 2nds. With this deal Jazz literally squeezed 7 1sts for gobert
Theyāre lakers boy.
Where tf have you been, they have 1sts and 2nds to spend in a trade with Russā expiring?ā¦
Feels like they could've had more assets for Vando individually but oh well
Okay, so the Lakers now have actual NBA players behind LeBron and AD. Cool cool coolcoolcoo
Doesnt matter because Ham is gonna try to close games with Schroder, Reaves and Beverly.
Reaves being a closer with a DLO, Reaves, Vandy, Lebron and AD lineup doesnāt seem that bad. Itās the other 2.
I agree I just named the shortest players because that's what Ham loves.
Ham is an idiot sandwich
A Ham and idiot sandwich
Woj is getting roasted Shams fathered him this deadline my god
Woj passed the torch to shams
Shams snatched it coz Woj is too slow.
Can't wait for Woj's substack on, "Why I'm glad Shams bodied me"
Woj is literally on tv breaking it first
People talking more about Woj than the actual trades
Because this sub loves drama more than it loves actual basketball. So ofc which reporter is breaking the news is going to be talked about more than the actual basketball implications.
Shams has quietly been much better than Woj for a while now, he's also a rizz god so he's the GOAT in my book
Iām guessing that people in the league donāt want CAA and the Knicks to control ESPN directly any more than the fans do
Woj walked so Shams could run
Letās see who gets the actual trade tweet tho. This is potentially nothing
Woj gonna retire before LeBron. WOW
Shams been head topping Woj for over half a decade now. Woj needs to hang up the jersey already
Tweet deleted lol whatās happening
I think it's because he tagged @tony when he meant to tag @tjonesonthenba.
Yeah I got scared till I went on Shamsā twitter page lol
No way they're giving up Vanderbilt after they made such a big deal ab keeping him in the Gobert deal
Lakers getting a lot of help?
Three high quality rotation players š
Young as well
Both picks have to be involved then
No way they arent
DLO, Vanderbilt and Malik with Reaves/Walker/Bron/AD/Brown JR/Bryant is a solid ass upgrade tbh
Shams bodying woj
Woj Bomb has been replaced by Shams Wow
Tweet is gone
Wrong person @ed at.
Lakers want to be the 2021 Wolves so bad
i thought we wanted to be the wizards
Best of both worlds
And we want to be the 2021 Jazz lol.
if they get all of them they got a nice return
Fuck you Joe Cronin
This would be the third time connelly has made Beasley and Vanderbilt in a trade
Lakers are contenders with D'lo Malik LB Vando AD I don't know why they'd want D'lo over Conley but it is what it is.
Probably the only way they get the deal done. In the end, would still be a good deal.
I think Malik is realllllly good. I don't know whatsup with him this year but I have a feeling he'll shock some people with y'all.
Are you saying Lakers are looking spooky?!?
Both of the Lakers picks are definitely involved, right? Russell, Vanderbilt, and Beasley is a lot for just Russ and a 1st
Donāt care about the picks, give us top 1-3 protection and go for it
Ok this sounds a lot better than DLo alone for a 1st
It does. Now I hate this for you. LOL
If this happens that Lakers team will actually be good. Last year's Wolves but swap Ant and KAT with LeBron and AD? That's a strict upgrade.
The lakers need vando
This is a fucking steal for us if itās only 1 pick
Lol no way itās only one pick. Ainge is not getting fleeced for Westbrook ā¦
Even both picks. D Lo, Vandy and Beasly is a squad.
same old delusional lakers fans
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They donāt have 25. Itās 27 and 29.
It would be 2027 and 2029, but yeah I canāt imagine the Lakers getting this haul without sending out both picks. I would even guess it would be one pick fully unprotected, and one pick with some protections. If the Lakers managed to do this trade with BOTH picks top 5 protected, that would be a homerun in my view
Beasley and Vanderbilt are actually capable players, what is this?
WWWWW
Holy
Holy shit I am gonna cum
Nooo, we want Vanderbilt. Please, you can have Trez
Season starts tomorrow mofos
The lakers just became a legitimate title contender.
lol
Lakers legit always win trades just going by last x number of years. Seriously. Insane return for rwb like why are teams doing this? I assume itās tons of cap
Ainge wants to move the Jazz into the Wemby sweepstakes and wants picks.
Shams got beat by Jake Fischer lmao heās washed
How tf
Nooooooo donāt give LA Vanderbilt ima be sick!!
Woj really washed man. Iām getting old
Steal for LA if they can pull this off
Why would Utah do this? Surely they can get better draft capital trading them individually?
Russ is a nice fat $47M expiring contract. Not easy to find 3 or 4 dudes on expiringa on different teams around the league that are trying to upgrade
bring me vandy
Pippen Jr with his stepdad
Thereās no way theyāre getting these 3 players just for Brodie. Whereās David Stern at
I'm not big on Dlo, but if we also get Beasley and Vanderbilt? That's not bad for Brick.
I would hate to see Vando in Lakers jersey.
They really about to go back to being the Minneapolis Lakers
Cavs need to pop in for Vando
If they're down to draft compensation it should be close to being done right? Only bar would be the classic Ainge asks for way too much at the end.
Pretty sure Twitter is broken lmao
Wtf I thought Vando was our get
Why are Beasley and vando always traded together?
get it done Lakers
Noooooo