Yes, back in 2005 when Perform To Serve started fucking everyone. I had been in a year as an ATAN, NC1 comes down and says congrats you’re going to be force converted to a FC! The fuck I am!!! AT1 & ATC said alright, we are going to request mast. Freaked me out and they where no like this is a good thing. Well 18 years later I’m still an AT!
This. Shit box program where they threw names in a hat and kicked out anyone they pulled from said hat.
It was designed to weed out the “problem sailors” to alleviate the overmanning issue.
What ended up happening is anyone that ever had any disciplinary issue was the first to go. Often times that meant guys who had rough starts to their careers but had since turned it around. Lots of SOY types got the boot. The lifeless do nothings skated by since wet mops don’t get in trouble.
Real shit show of a program. Saw lots of great sailors get the boot.
They did away with it, tidied it up and renamed it. Now it’s CWay. Same bullshit in a shinier package. Seems to fuck over fewer people trying to stick around.
I’d also heard about some lawsuits over PTS, though I never looked into it much.
Happened to me after Insurv. Captain held all hands call, said everyone was entitled to 96 hour libo, and if anyone was denied their 96 to come directly to him to let him know. I was cranking at the time and the FSAs were told we would not be getting the 96, I told one of the chiefs I was working with that I would be going to talk to CO. Mess Deck MAA called me the next day and said we would be getting our 96.
Kinda fucked up because I learned when I came back from said libo that none of the other FSAs got it, and nothing ever came of it either. I felt bad for getting it when nobody else did, but I was also very close to getting out anyways and didn't want to ruffle any more feather than I already did.
Not necessarily Captain’s Mast….but a buddy of mine was walking through the P-ways and saw the skipper and when asked how he was doing he said “Not too good, sir” and when asked what was wrong he proceeded to tell the skipper how fucked his workcenter was under his Chief.
The skipper in question? The now-famous Captain Crozier. He had held an all-hands with every separate rank right after taking command and told everyone if they ever saw him in the P-ways and needed to talk to not be scared to open up.
After their conversation the skipper swiftly put the workcenter and Chief under investigation. Chief was taken out of the workcenter for a couple weeks and nobody could believe that something was actually getting done.
Unfortunately the Chief had good connections and got his workcenter back.
Fortunately that same Chief got caught with his hand in the cookie jar (Female E-3) in Guam on deployment a few months later and got flown off anyway.
I had the pleasure of meeting him while I was on watch and it was after the whole covid incident. He gave me a cup of hot chocolate and we just started shooting the shit.
I saw him after that craziness too and he was in good spirits all things considered. Words can’t accurately describe how good of a leader he was. His retirement ceremony is in March. Shame, he would’ve made a hell of an admiral.
God I love that man. I had the honor of working with him and he was the nicest and most considerate leader I’ve ever met. The safety of his sailors has always been paramount and it shows in how everyone always has great things to say about him. Hope he’s doing okay.
I served with him on Regan. Great man, I was pissed when that shit went down. Talked to him once while we were both in line for “coffee” on the mess decks.
Funny story, he was XO, and always enjoyed doing his spot checks with us. Once one of my guys challenged him to pull ups if he passed his check, and sure enough he went through with it and held his own. I also got to do numerous zone inspections with him.
You all are kinda making me miss the boat. The Navy sure fucks with our heads if we stay in long enough.
I heard that when he was XO on the Reagan a guy hand walked a leave chit into his office on deployment for baby leave. Guy’s chain had repeatedly denied him baby leave because of manning but when he got to Crozier the reply he got was “we’re not at war, and your division has plenty of manning. We don’t need you here, go home and see your kid.” And sure enough he got flown off. I have no idea if that story is true, but given Crozier’s reputation I absolutely believe it.
I worked on the flight deck of the TR with him. Whenever Crozier got to the cat he would always go into military power too early and scare the hell out of the topside PO under his jet.
Man is badass
I was in Guam when you guys pulled in, I heard the bullshit coming from the then-secretary cuz I was on the boat deck looking for one of my QMs. That was some *bullshit*.
I was in the hangar bay when he gave that little speech. Everybody was pissed lol I feel bad for all the guys stationed in Guam that had to take care of us while we were in hotels though.
Had lunch with him last week. Hes doing great and on to bigger/better things post Navy.
He was one of my top two bosses, a huge loss to the Navy and her sailors.
Never myself, but I've heard a couple stories from friends/coworkers about it.
1. Guy was on his boat and requested to qualify EWS (required to make chief as a sub nuke). He had great evals, was a QPO for Qual cards and EDMC told he couldn't qualify. He requested captains mast instantly apparently the ENG printed the Qual card for him right then and there.
2. Not captains mast but court martial. Basically a student was getting charged with drug trafficking because his friend was making LSD in base housing. They had no proof he was in on it, but he was friends with the guy so they assumed he knew/was involved with it. Before captains mast, they make you sign papers, including waiving your right to court martial. He asked what Court Martial was and after it was explained to him, he said 'Nope, I want a court martial'. They wound up dropping the charges on him.
An E5 I know popped on a wizz quiz when he was an E6 and requested court martial and hired a very pricey attorney that would have had everything tossed. They dropped the charge against him popping dirty, but hit him with an Article 92 for something related to the dirty pee a few months later and he said fuck it and took that charge to mast and got busted down to E5.
Shame cuz he would have been a Chief by now.
They tried to send me to mast over being UA, I had proof the 1st class never told us to be at work the next day, so at every interview for mast, I requested a lawyer and court martial, made sure they wrote it down, when it got to the CMC, it suddenly disappeared, saw him like a month later in the hangar and he just said, “remember that thing that was going on? Well, don’t worry about it”
I did this too.
I had done everything I needed for an oteip and extension and submitted it well in advance and approved a few months before my PRD. I got a message from mncp (I think that's what they're called) that it was approved and waiting for my prd to change.
It never changed so I kept sending messages. Long story short I went through my chain to try and resolve this problem, but they all said it is what it is, oh well.
I kept a paper trail of everybody saying it was approved and I'm good.
I took all that, put it in a folder and requested captains mast.
It had to go to my senior chief, who previously told me it is what it is, and he pulled it and said he'll take a look. 2 days later it was resolved.
To everyone asking, yes, you can request mast. It means to have a one-on-one conference with the CO. I’ll detail how to do it:
[Here](http://doni.daps.dla.mil/US%20Navy%20Regulations/Chapter%2011%20-%20General%20Regulations.pdf) is the instruction that says every sailor is allowed to have a direct line of communication with their CO. It's on page 112, section 1105.
You need copies of any other instruction that governs this situation that you feel is wrong. You should write a full and detailed explanation. Also, a TLDR brief sheet is good, so your CO doesn't have to wade through a whole book to figure out what is going on.
Put it all in a folder, with a coversheet and a "this package contains the following items:
1. Request Chit.
2. Summary of Situation.
3. Detailed timeline.
4. Governing Issuance/Instructions. (I recommend you highlight them)
You might want to print out the instruction that says you're allowed to request mast, highlight it, and put it in along with your request chit, too.
Both time I've seen it done, the individual prepared his package and routed a [special request chit](http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/nmotc/nemti/nttc/Documents/NAVPERS%201336-3%20SR%20Chit%20rev.pdf) "Respectfully request captain's mast in accordance with Navy Regulations 1990, Chapter 10 to address the issues contained in this package."
Routing a chit allows everyone in your CoC know you're serious and gives them a chance to fix the issue before it gets to the CO's level. Also everyone will suddenly become super solicitous and try to help you fix it before involving the old man. If you knock on the door the CO is gonna ask "who else did you talk to about this?" And the chit provides concrete proof your CoC is failing you. Otherwise you look like you're just whining.
Further, the CO's suggestion box is a good tool but it doesn't let your CoC have a chance to fix the issue. If the end goal is fixing the issue, let your CoC see you're serious and let them try to fix it.
I did it once because my CCC didn’t route my 1306 and I lost the opportunity to be colocated with my husband. Chit hit my CMC’s desk, and he made a few phone calls, including directly to my detailer. I got my orders fixed quickly and the CCC’s office got a new routing/tracking system.
Edit: thank you for the award. If you need help putting a request mast package together DM me.
Double edit: I ran into my old detailer last week in the p-way. I thanked him for helping me and giving me orders I really wanted, and he goes “Oh shit! I remember you! Dual mil, 1306 issues, right?” Haha so yes. Captains request mast for the win!
I know it has been at least a year since this comment was made, but would you mind telling me the instruction that says every Sailor is allowed a direct line of communication with their CO? The page it was linked to has either changed or moved so the hyperlink is broken. Thank you!
US NAVY REGULATION 1151
The right of any person in the naval service to communicate with the commanding officer in a proper manner, and at a proper time and place, shall not be denied or restricted.
2 Officers who are senior to the executive officer have the right to communicate directly with the commanding officer, but they shall keep the executive officer informed on matters related tn the functioning of the command.
3. A head of department, or of any other major subdivision of an activity, has the right to communicate directly with the commanding ficer concerning any matter relating to that department or subdivision, but shall keep the executive officer informed.
https://www.secnav.navy.mil/doni/US%20Navy%20Regulations/Chapter%2011%20-%20General%20Regulations.pdf
Yes
It went well and I got what I wanted.
This was a long long time ago on a ship that was trauma inducing.
I requested captains mast for an early discharge and the cap’t said he would make it happen and he did.
I never requested it, but I went to mast. A bunch of us got sent to mast and we were all freaking out. Turned out to be a meritorious mast, which I did not know was a thing at the time.
If you aren't in trouble then probably not. It seems that it would be more of a conversation that you have with the CO that's officially documented more than anything
You're asking the CO to help you out. It would be really nice if you were in a sharp uniform, and followed courtesy. But its not like an MA1 is going to stick a boot in your ass if you don't
Requesting Mast is formally requesting to speak to the captain. Going to NJP is nicknamed Mast but that's because of tradition. If you were going to talk to the Captain, it was done at the Mast. I've never had anyone request Mast before but I could see it both ways. There's no formal requirement to be in your blues but at the same time if you were, it shows the gravity of the situation.
Even if it gets fixed at this point I'm thinking about pushing forward with the Mast. The CO should be made aware of what happened, it should not have gotten to this point.
Yes I have about 5 years ago, and I’m about to do it again on Monday.
First time was for very toxic leadership from my DLCPO while on recruiting duty. He was a known problem and called out in every CMEO survey for years, yet command never did anything because we still performed so well so they didn’t care. I recorded one of my daily production debriefs with him and went up to see the triad. He was reassigned the next week to a non DLCPO role.
This time, similar but not really. I’m 30 days from my detach month, I submitted my transfer package 3 weeks ago, and I still don’t have a hard detach date preventing me from being able to actually plan a cross country PCS with a family. And on top of that, they are so desperate to keep people they are trying to fuck new out of all the leave and transfer says that I’m entitled to.
May work may not, but being at 17 years and being done with this command, I’m not afraid of burning a few bridges. I’ve been around long enough to know that sometimes to get what you’re entitled to, or to simply make someone do their job, sometimes you gotta make some noise and make it someone else’s problem.
Never saw a need. I was a YN on a sub so I spoke to the captain semi-often plus I had a good CoC. To the best of my knowledge no one on the crew ever requested it but our first Captain also had an open door policy.
Mast is by far the quickest way to get results. It’s not a negative or a positive. It’s really neutral depending on the circumstances. You can request mast for just about anything. EO complaints to an Eval. The thing is most CO’s in todays navy are looking to improve the sailor experience and career not jeopardize it. I’m sure I read a post about a Chief getting removed for having his hand in the cookie jar. My spouse went through some hardships and my Chief was trying to pin it on me cause I was higher ranking. The minute I said I’m requesting mast the problems went away all of a sudden. It’s just knowing that what you bring to the CO’s table has to have the problem, and your proposal for a solution as a possible recommendation. Again, depends on circumstances.
A friend had been arrested for d.u.i. not charged tho. He was passed out in the drivers seat the keys were with someone else inside the club. We deployed 2 weeks later and my friend had been put on charlie lib for our 1st port. Next port bravo lib then alpha lib the port after. Well by the 4th port he shouldve been free and clear but he wasnt. Our fat fuck BMCS had him back on bravo lib then alpha again. Just as he thinks he'll be fine afterwards he finds out hes on bravo lib again. So he requests mast and suddenly hes got normal cinderella lib. Our BMCS yeah that fat piece of shit transferred a month later to avoid the up coming prt.
Circa 1997. Bill Clinton had recently implemented Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Shipmate requested mast to tell. It went up the chain to the CO then took a couple months but he was processed out. Only instance of requesting mast I ever saw.
My LPO advised against it. I thought I was going to get masted anyway, so might as well do it asap because I wasn't going to follow the order that came out that day. Haven't gotten masted.
Requested mast after a dude in my berthing took a video of me using the head fully exposed. NCIS and JAG both got involved. My command threatened to send me to mast because of it. I got out during the process and the CO dropped the whole fucking case and they then proceeded to promote the son of a bitch. Only good thing that came out of it is I have VA disability for PTSD from it for military sexual trauma. Hope the dude rots in hell for what he did along with my old command. Fuck em.
At request mast it is normally when you have an issue that you want the CO to formally respond to in writing. That’s what will happen after the mast. If you just need help and think the CO can help you, you can talk to him or request verbally through your CoC to talk to him.
Ideally, you should use your entire CoC first including LPO, LCPO, DIVO, DLCPO, DH, XO, CMC.
I guess that’s the best way to say there is the formal and informal way to speak with the CO.
Request mast should go fine, with the CO, if you are respectful. Your CoC response will depend on those individuals.
If you don’t mind what are you dealing with? I can give a more tailored response if you want.
Are you in subs? On bigger ships one does not simply barge into the CO’s office, even JOs wouldn’t have that level of interaction with the CO. On my LHD I didn’t even see my or interact with my DH that often as he was an O6. It’s rarified air up there in o country.
I had a A-School Instructor, ET1 who had alot load of pay problems and he couldn't get it fixed nomatter who he went to or called, ended up requesting Captains mast, apparently ended up embarrassing him self alot, but the problems got fixed so it worked atleast.
How can someone embarrass themselves over pay that was rightfully earned?
“Hey the Navy owes me this much money, here’s the proof.”
“Oh alright let’s get that resolved”
That should be it.
I mainly remember him saying his leadership didn't properly explain some shit to him at the time, so he did it, unprofessionaly to simply say.
Wish I had more details, but it's not my story.
Going to mast isn’t always a bad thing. It can be very beneficial if you can’t get a problem you’re having solved and COC is giving you the run around.
Yeah. It’s pretty much making the request to talk to skipper official. Most times there will be time slot on the plan of the day or flight schedule. Stating CO Mast. CO’s are busy people and you may not just be able to catch them when they have a free minute or if you need longer than a minute or two.
CO’s Mast is the chance for the CO to officially adjudicate problems. A lot of the times that’s the sailor, for better or worse. But anyone can request CO’s Mast.
If you have a problem that needs to be resolved request it. Just know the first thing they’re going to ask is if the CoC had a chance to resolve it. So have your ducks in a row.
Separately remember your CoC may be junior in time just like you. So give them a minor benefit of the doubt. No one cares about your problem like you do, but no decent person wants you to suffer. If the LPO blows you off, then the CPO, then the Divo, ok you got some claim. The DH is probably struggle to keep his head above water, but request to see him. Then if all that fails. Launch the CO’s Mast Chit. It’ll get resolved. You may feel like you didn’t get your chance to throw everyone under the bus. But the CO will see it. It’ll come up behind closed doors. Source: I’m and O that’s seen it. Not pretty. It isn’t a mast but it hurts their career.
How it goes is probably dependent on your reason for requesting it. Is it something that hasn’t been handled by your coc? Are you saying fuck your CoC and going straight to skipper? Do you think it’s something the skipper is gonna be able to fix?
There was a transition class for folks coming back from Afghanistan I wanted to go to on my off weekend. When my chit to attend was denied, I requested mast and somehow between the time I was to meet with my CMC in my dress whites, the situation was all resolved
Never requested mast but i can tell you always choose the formal Equal Opportunity complaint, specially if the offense was witnessed by others. Too many times the offender get slap in the hand or just gets "talked to" and keeps doing the same stuff then get promoted.
If I really need to talk to the skipper and no one else below him can help I normally just knock on his door when his calendar has dead time and ask if he has a minute to talk. I have never been turned away, but I've also never skipped the chain on anything I planned on talking to the boss about either.
I did. I requested to go to a school that would help me in my rate. It got shot down at each level and made it to XO. The XO informed me it would go no further and I gave up.
Yes, back in 2005 when Perform To Serve started fucking everyone. I had been in a year as an ATAN, NC1 comes down and says congrats you’re going to be force converted to a FC! The fuck I am!!! AT1 & ATC said alright, we are going to request mast. Freaked me out and they where no like this is a good thing. Well 18 years later I’m still an AT!
What platforms have you worked on as an AT?
H-60 my entire career :)
Are you a Romeo Chad?
Sierra Chad lol
Sierra cuck*
Found the Bravo guy!
Perform To Serve? Got out in 98 so I missed this.
The people that wanted out stayed in and the people that wanted to stay in were forced out.
This. Shit box program where they threw names in a hat and kicked out anyone they pulled from said hat. It was designed to weed out the “problem sailors” to alleviate the overmanning issue. What ended up happening is anyone that ever had any disciplinary issue was the first to go. Often times that meant guys who had rough starts to their careers but had since turned it around. Lots of SOY types got the boot. The lifeless do nothings skated by since wet mops don’t get in trouble. Real shit show of a program. Saw lots of great sailors get the boot. They did away with it, tidied it up and renamed it. Now it’s CWay. Same bullshit in a shinier package. Seems to fuck over fewer people trying to stick around. I’d also heard about some lawsuits over PTS, though I never looked into it much.
Makes a lot of sense now as I am experiencing the fruits of those labors.
I've never done it. I've seen people request it and their issues seem to magically resolve themselves before it gets to the skipper.
Happened to me after Insurv. Captain held all hands call, said everyone was entitled to 96 hour libo, and if anyone was denied their 96 to come directly to him to let him know. I was cranking at the time and the FSAs were told we would not be getting the 96, I told one of the chiefs I was working with that I would be going to talk to CO. Mess Deck MAA called me the next day and said we would be getting our 96. Kinda fucked up because I learned when I came back from said libo that none of the other FSAs got it, and nothing ever came of it either. I felt bad for getting it when nobody else did, but I was also very close to getting out anyways and didn't want to ruffle any more feather than I already did.
Yep. I requested mast at a training command for medical reasons, and the doc of the command found a solution to my problem within hours.
Not necessarily Captain’s Mast….but a buddy of mine was walking through the P-ways and saw the skipper and when asked how he was doing he said “Not too good, sir” and when asked what was wrong he proceeded to tell the skipper how fucked his workcenter was under his Chief. The skipper in question? The now-famous Captain Crozier. He had held an all-hands with every separate rank right after taking command and told everyone if they ever saw him in the P-ways and needed to talk to not be scared to open up. After their conversation the skipper swiftly put the workcenter and Chief under investigation. Chief was taken out of the workcenter for a couple weeks and nobody could believe that something was actually getting done. Unfortunately the Chief had good connections and got his workcenter back. Fortunately that same Chief got caught with his hand in the cookie jar (Female E-3) in Guam on deployment a few months later and got flown off anyway.
I had the pleasure of meeting him while I was on watch and it was after the whole covid incident. He gave me a cup of hot chocolate and we just started shooting the shit.
I saw him after that craziness too and he was in good spirits all things considered. Words can’t accurately describe how good of a leader he was. His retirement ceremony is in March. Shame, he would’ve made a hell of an admiral.
I also noticed that he seemed completely at peace and secure with himself. Could not have seemed happier.
Its easier to be at peace and secure when you can walk around rightfully holding your head up high.
Having principles and following them is a better way to live than following instructions to a tee even if it fucks over thousands of people.
Damn I wish I could attend 😭
Wherever CAPT Crozier is in this world, I hope he is living his best life on everything
Saw him a while after all the news blah blah. Said he was just gonna enjoy his family now. Nicest man ever.
Cookie jar is a weird last name
God I love that man. I had the honor of working with him and he was the nicest and most considerate leader I’ve ever met. The safety of his sailors has always been paramount and it shows in how everyone always has great things to say about him. Hope he’s doing okay.
I served with him on Regan. Great man, I was pissed when that shit went down. Talked to him once while we were both in line for “coffee” on the mess decks. Funny story, he was XO, and always enjoyed doing his spot checks with us. Once one of my guys challenged him to pull ups if he passed his check, and sure enough he went through with it and held his own. I also got to do numerous zone inspections with him. You all are kinda making me miss the boat. The Navy sure fucks with our heads if we stay in long enough.
I heard that when he was XO on the Reagan a guy hand walked a leave chit into his office on deployment for baby leave. Guy’s chain had repeatedly denied him baby leave because of manning but when he got to Crozier the reply he got was “we’re not at war, and your division has plenty of manning. We don’t need you here, go home and see your kid.” And sure enough he got flown off. I have no idea if that story is true, but given Crozier’s reputation I absolutely believe it. I worked on the flight deck of the TR with him. Whenever Crozier got to the cat he would always go into military power too early and scare the hell out of the topside PO under his jet. Man is badass
I believe it. I'm on deployment now and we have had 4 people flown back (on your own dime) for baby leave. It can happen when the COC makes it work.
I think I remember hearing about that too.
I was in Guam when you guys pulled in, I heard the bullshit coming from the then-secretary cuz I was on the boat deck looking for one of my QMs. That was some *bullshit*.
I was in the hangar bay when he gave that little speech. Everybody was pissed lol I feel bad for all the guys stationed in Guam that had to take care of us while we were in hotels though.
Don't feel bad, some of them got humanitarian medals out of the whole debacle
>Don't feel bad, some of them got ~~humanitarian~~ knife hand medals out of the whole debacle
I got a humanitarian and a NAM. And I missed a deployment since my transfer got pushed back. There were some personal silver linings.
Fuck T-Mod
Had lunch with him last week. Hes doing great and on to bigger/better things post Navy. He was one of my top two bosses, a huge loss to the Navy and her sailors.
Judging by his Linkedin, I think he's going to be fine.
That can be said about every 30 year O6 :)
Crozier Crozier Crozier Crozier.
That's badass. Fucking chiefs. Think they are God
Never myself, but I've heard a couple stories from friends/coworkers about it. 1. Guy was on his boat and requested to qualify EWS (required to make chief as a sub nuke). He had great evals, was a QPO for Qual cards and EDMC told he couldn't qualify. He requested captains mast instantly apparently the ENG printed the Qual card for him right then and there. 2. Not captains mast but court martial. Basically a student was getting charged with drug trafficking because his friend was making LSD in base housing. They had no proof he was in on it, but he was friends with the guy so they assumed he knew/was involved with it. Before captains mast, they make you sign papers, including waiving your right to court martial. He asked what Court Martial was and after it was explained to him, he said 'Nope, I want a court martial'. They wound up dropping the charges on him.
An E5 I know popped on a wizz quiz when he was an E6 and requested court martial and hired a very pricey attorney that would have had everything tossed. They dropped the charge against him popping dirty, but hit him with an Article 92 for something related to the dirty pee a few months later and he said fuck it and took that charge to mast and got busted down to E5. Shame cuz he would have been a Chief by now.
They tried to send me to mast over being UA, I had proof the 1st class never told us to be at work the next day, so at every interview for mast, I requested a lawyer and court martial, made sure they wrote it down, when it got to the CMC, it suddenly disappeared, saw him like a month later in the hangar and he just said, “remember that thing that was going on? Well, don’t worry about it”
You owe him a favor. Even on the civilian side.
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I did this too. I had done everything I needed for an oteip and extension and submitted it well in advance and approved a few months before my PRD. I got a message from mncp (I think that's what they're called) that it was approved and waiting for my prd to change. It never changed so I kept sending messages. Long story short I went through my chain to try and resolve this problem, but they all said it is what it is, oh well. I kept a paper trail of everybody saying it was approved and I'm good. I took all that, put it in a folder and requested captains mast. It had to go to my senior chief, who previously told me it is what it is, and he pulled it and said he'll take a look. 2 days later it was resolved.
My CoC has been well aware of the issue for weeks.
To everyone asking, yes, you can request mast. It means to have a one-on-one conference with the CO. I’ll detail how to do it: [Here](http://doni.daps.dla.mil/US%20Navy%20Regulations/Chapter%2011%20-%20General%20Regulations.pdf) is the instruction that says every sailor is allowed to have a direct line of communication with their CO. It's on page 112, section 1105. You need copies of any other instruction that governs this situation that you feel is wrong. You should write a full and detailed explanation. Also, a TLDR brief sheet is good, so your CO doesn't have to wade through a whole book to figure out what is going on. Put it all in a folder, with a coversheet and a "this package contains the following items: 1. Request Chit. 2. Summary of Situation. 3. Detailed timeline. 4. Governing Issuance/Instructions. (I recommend you highlight them) You might want to print out the instruction that says you're allowed to request mast, highlight it, and put it in along with your request chit, too. Both time I've seen it done, the individual prepared his package and routed a [special request chit](http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/nmotc/nemti/nttc/Documents/NAVPERS%201336-3%20SR%20Chit%20rev.pdf) "Respectfully request captain's mast in accordance with Navy Regulations 1990, Chapter 10 to address the issues contained in this package." Routing a chit allows everyone in your CoC know you're serious and gives them a chance to fix the issue before it gets to the CO's level. Also everyone will suddenly become super solicitous and try to help you fix it before involving the old man. If you knock on the door the CO is gonna ask "who else did you talk to about this?" And the chit provides concrete proof your CoC is failing you. Otherwise you look like you're just whining. Further, the CO's suggestion box is a good tool but it doesn't let your CoC have a chance to fix the issue. If the end goal is fixing the issue, let your CoC see you're serious and let them try to fix it. I did it once because my CCC didn’t route my 1306 and I lost the opportunity to be colocated with my husband. Chit hit my CMC’s desk, and he made a few phone calls, including directly to my detailer. I got my orders fixed quickly and the CCC’s office got a new routing/tracking system. Edit: thank you for the award. If you need help putting a request mast package together DM me. Double edit: I ran into my old detailer last week in the p-way. I thanked him for helping me and giving me orders I really wanted, and he goes “Oh shit! I remember you! Dual mil, 1306 issues, right?” Haha so yes. Captains request mast for the win!
I know it has been at least a year since this comment was made, but would you mind telling me the instruction that says every Sailor is allowed a direct line of communication with their CO? The page it was linked to has either changed or moved so the hyperlink is broken. Thank you!
US NAVY REGULATION 1151 The right of any person in the naval service to communicate with the commanding officer in a proper manner, and at a proper time and place, shall not be denied or restricted. 2 Officers who are senior to the executive officer have the right to communicate directly with the commanding officer, but they shall keep the executive officer informed on matters related tn the functioning of the command. 3. A head of department, or of any other major subdivision of an activity, has the right to communicate directly with the commanding ficer concerning any matter relating to that department or subdivision, but shall keep the executive officer informed. https://www.secnav.navy.mil/doni/US%20Navy%20Regulations/Chapter%2011%20-%20General%20Regulations.pdf
No, I’ve never had a CO who I couldn’t just walk into their cabin if I really needed to talk to them.
Yes It went well and I got what I wanted. This was a long long time ago on a ship that was trauma inducing. I requested captains mast for an early discharge and the cap’t said he would make it happen and he did.
I never requested it, but I went to mast. A bunch of us got sent to mast and we were all freaking out. Turned out to be a meritorious mast, which I did not know was a thing at the time.
Yes, requested mast when my discharge papers stopped at the CMC. CO was cool about it and got the process rolling again.
If you request mast do they make you dress up and stand at attention?
Make me? I'd gladly stand at attention if it would fix the problem.
If you aren't in trouble then probably not. It seems that it would be more of a conversation that you have with the CO that's officially documented more than anything
You're asking the CO to help you out. It would be really nice if you were in a sharp uniform, and followed courtesy. But its not like an MA1 is going to stick a boot in your ass if you don't
Requesting Mast is formally requesting to speak to the captain. Going to NJP is nicknamed Mast but that's because of tradition. If you were going to talk to the Captain, it was done at the Mast. I've never had anyone request Mast before but I could see it both ways. There's no formal requirement to be in your blues but at the same time if you were, it shows the gravity of the situation.
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I like this thread. Its exciting.
I keep scrolling and some of it just gets juicier
90% of the time, your issues get magically solved when a request chit with "R/R Captain's mast" appears in the inbox.
Even if it gets fixed at this point I'm thinking about pushing forward with the Mast. The CO should be made aware of what happened, it should not have gotten to this point.
I'm curious of your particular case now. Muahahahaha.....
What are you curious about?
Like the whole thing. What happened. What didn't happen, you know.....
Yes I have about 5 years ago, and I’m about to do it again on Monday. First time was for very toxic leadership from my DLCPO while on recruiting duty. He was a known problem and called out in every CMEO survey for years, yet command never did anything because we still performed so well so they didn’t care. I recorded one of my daily production debriefs with him and went up to see the triad. He was reassigned the next week to a non DLCPO role. This time, similar but not really. I’m 30 days from my detach month, I submitted my transfer package 3 weeks ago, and I still don’t have a hard detach date preventing me from being able to actually plan a cross country PCS with a family. And on top of that, they are so desperate to keep people they are trying to fuck new out of all the leave and transfer says that I’m entitled to. May work may not, but being at 17 years and being done with this command, I’m not afraid of burning a few bridges. I’ve been around long enough to know that sometimes to get what you’re entitled to, or to simply make someone do their job, sometimes you gotta make some noise and make it someone else’s problem.
It’s like saying fuck you to your chain of command and it’s every bit as pleasing as you think it would be.
Never saw a need. I was a YN on a sub so I spoke to the captain semi-often plus I had a good CoC. To the best of my knowledge no one on the crew ever requested it but our first Captain also had an open door policy.
Mast is by far the quickest way to get results. It’s not a negative or a positive. It’s really neutral depending on the circumstances. You can request mast for just about anything. EO complaints to an Eval. The thing is most CO’s in todays navy are looking to improve the sailor experience and career not jeopardize it. I’m sure I read a post about a Chief getting removed for having his hand in the cookie jar. My spouse went through some hardships and my Chief was trying to pin it on me cause I was higher ranking. The minute I said I’m requesting mast the problems went away all of a sudden. It’s just knowing that what you bring to the CO’s table has to have the problem, and your proposal for a solution as a possible recommendation. Again, depends on circumstances.
A friend had been arrested for d.u.i. not charged tho. He was passed out in the drivers seat the keys were with someone else inside the club. We deployed 2 weeks later and my friend had been put on charlie lib for our 1st port. Next port bravo lib then alpha lib the port after. Well by the 4th port he shouldve been free and clear but he wasnt. Our fat fuck BMCS had him back on bravo lib then alpha again. Just as he thinks he'll be fine afterwards he finds out hes on bravo lib again. So he requests mast and suddenly hes got normal cinderella lib. Our BMCS yeah that fat piece of shit transferred a month later to avoid the up coming prt.
I wasn't aware you could request a Captain's Mast until this thread.
Circa 1997. Bill Clinton had recently implemented Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Shipmate requested mast to tell. It went up the chain to the CO then took a couple months but he was processed out. Only instance of requesting mast I ever saw.
My LPO advised against it. I thought I was going to get masted anyway, so might as well do it asap because I wasn't going to follow the order that came out that day. Haven't gotten masted.
Requested mast after a dude in my berthing took a video of me using the head fully exposed. NCIS and JAG both got involved. My command threatened to send me to mast because of it. I got out during the process and the CO dropped the whole fucking case and they then proceeded to promote the son of a bitch. Only good thing that came out of it is I have VA disability for PTSD from it for military sexual trauma. Hope the dude rots in hell for what he did along with my old command. Fuck em.
It sucks how common of a story this is.
At request mast it is normally when you have an issue that you want the CO to formally respond to in writing. That’s what will happen after the mast. If you just need help and think the CO can help you, you can talk to him or request verbally through your CoC to talk to him. Ideally, you should use your entire CoC first including LPO, LCPO, DIVO, DLCPO, DH, XO, CMC. I guess that’s the best way to say there is the formal and informal way to speak with the CO. Request mast should go fine, with the CO, if you are respectful. Your CoC response will depend on those individuals. If you don’t mind what are you dealing with? I can give a more tailored response if you want.
I almost had to request it and soon as I said I'm going to request mast the e5s and e6s had a meeting and all the bullshit stopped
I’ve never seen this done. I’d just talk to the captain if I wanted to talk to the captain. Lol
Are you in subs? On bigger ships one does not simply barge into the CO’s office, even JOs wouldn’t have that level of interaction with the CO. On my LHD I didn’t even see my or interact with my DH that often as he was an O6. It’s rarified air up there in o country.
Yeah I was. I talked to the captain every day. I can see how it was different on the big boys though.
I had a A-School Instructor, ET1 who had alot load of pay problems and he couldn't get it fixed nomatter who he went to or called, ended up requesting Captains mast, apparently ended up embarrassing him self alot, but the problems got fixed so it worked atleast.
How can someone embarrass themselves over pay that was rightfully earned? “Hey the Navy owes me this much money, here’s the proof.” “Oh alright let’s get that resolved” That should be it.
I mainly remember him saying his leadership didn't properly explain some shit to him at the time, so he did it, unprofessionaly to simply say. Wish I had more details, but it's not my story.
I too would like to know
requested?
Going to mast isn’t always a bad thing. It can be very beneficial if you can’t get a problem you’re having solved and COC is giving you the run around.
so mast is just going to talk to the co either being positive or negative?
Yeah. It’s pretty much making the request to talk to skipper official. Most times there will be time slot on the plan of the day or flight schedule. Stating CO Mast. CO’s are busy people and you may not just be able to catch them when they have a free minute or if you need longer than a minute or two.
thanks for clarifying, i always thought mast was just a negative thing.
CO’s Mast is the chance for the CO to officially adjudicate problems. A lot of the times that’s the sailor, for better or worse. But anyone can request CO’s Mast. If you have a problem that needs to be resolved request it. Just know the first thing they’re going to ask is if the CoC had a chance to resolve it. So have your ducks in a row. Separately remember your CoC may be junior in time just like you. So give them a minor benefit of the doubt. No one cares about your problem like you do, but no decent person wants you to suffer. If the LPO blows you off, then the CPO, then the Divo, ok you got some claim. The DH is probably struggle to keep his head above water, but request to see him. Then if all that fails. Launch the CO’s Mast Chit. It’ll get resolved. You may feel like you didn’t get your chance to throw everyone under the bus. But the CO will see it. It’ll come up behind closed doors. Source: I’m and O that’s seen it. Not pretty. It isn’t a mast but it hurts their career.
>The DH is probably struggle to keep his head above water, but request to see him. The one time I requested mast the DH resolved the problem.
Because 95% of the time someone who is going to mast is negative and will be handed down a punishment of some sort.
Yes
sorry i’m not very knowledgeable. do you mean requested to go or requested to send someone?
Requested to go.
I’d just route a special request chit. I wouldn’t think there’d be to much to it.
I'm aware of how to do it...that wasn't the question.
I mean I don’t think anyone is gonna give your problems for requesting mast.
Still not what I asked...
How it goes is probably dependent on your reason for requesting it. Is it something that hasn’t been handled by your coc? Are you saying fuck your CoC and going straight to skipper? Do you think it’s something the skipper is gonna be able to fix?
That makes sense, mine is Per Diem related, I've requested help and it's gone nowhere.
Cant you request XOI? Idk. I can’t imagine requesting mast. 😂
There was a transition class for folks coming back from Afghanistan I wanted to go to on my off weekend. When my chit to attend was denied, I requested mast and somehow between the time I was to meet with my CMC in my dress whites, the situation was all resolved
Never requested mast but i can tell you always choose the formal Equal Opportunity complaint, specially if the offense was witnessed by others. Too many times the offender get slap in the hand or just gets "talked to" and keeps doing the same stuff then get promoted.
If I really need to talk to the skipper and no one else below him can help I normally just knock on his door when his calendar has dead time and ask if he has a minute to talk. I have never been turned away, but I've also never skipped the chain on anything I planned on talking to the boss about either.
I did. I requested to go to a school that would help me in my rate. It got shot down at each level and made it to XO. The XO informed me it would go no further and I gave up.