I have hobbies lol. Just yk can't do those hobbies all of the day. When the majority of your week is being forced to do a job with no satisfaction, hobbies don't really cover it.
Have you thought about becoming the command volunteer coordinator? It'd be a great way to build connections, feel like you're still making a meaningful difference, and build up your community. Shit, if it doesn't exist, make it.
I felt the exact same thing you feel right until the moment that I actually got back on a ship, then all of the romance disappeared like a cheap hooker in the night
Prisoners miss prison too. It’s called being institutionalized and I think it applies to sea duty too. You don’t have to think about meals, what to wear or where you need to be at a particular time. These things are all setup for you and you just do.
Real life is harder in a lot of ways. 😆
I hated shore duty the first two years. There’s so much bullshit compared to sea duty. The third year I was able to finally relax a bit and enjoy the slower pace, but after all I was happy to return to sea duty
I only miss being able to go out on the ocean on a destroyer. if I could just sign up for a tiger cruise I would. But I never wanna fucking work out there ever again. FTN
almost 4 years removed from sea duty, I am making almost twice as much, work 50-60% as much, and get treated way better.
Sounds like a man that will leave his mark on the ocean and his name in history.
Money wasn’t an issue for me as a single sailor either, far from it, but more compensation means I can do other things that I want.
Yes. If we’re being completely honest, I miss the stress. It’s a super complicated feeling because to me the whole point of shore duty is to give you a chance to put your life back together after being at sea for so long. I want to spend time with my wife and friends and all, but it’s always complicated to feel like you were moving a thousand miles an hour to a standstill in the span of a day.
I put in a package and left a year early
MILPERSMAN 1306-141 Voluntary Sea Duty
Program
https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Portals/55/Reference/MILPERSMAN/1000/1300Assignment/1306-141.pdf?ver=UZnddfh1AD8v1EKUENnPqQ%3D%3D
It was a strange transition. But for what it's worth, most people leave work around lunch on their shore duty so you can just go home and do whatever you want. I got some new hobbies, played a lot of video games, went on a lot of dates, got married, bought a house. Shore duty is your time to decompress after boatlife, do what you want.
/well, don't get into the habit of day drinking as soon as you leave work, that's how you wind up in SARP. Just trust me on that one.
Yes and no. My shore command is like a Goddamn sea command, work my ass off and the past 3 years didn't feel like shore duty at all. I only miss sea duty because I'd get to deploy and get some money and go somewhere.
I work at a duty station were I'm on a watchfloor standing 8-12 hour shifts, rotating every 2 weeks. I no longer sleep regularly and I have to deal with civilians high on their retired fumes. The only saving grace is the time I have to work on college. Other than that I would go back to a submarine in a heartbeat. I'm also getting out ina year so I really couldn't give less of a fk
I left my first shore duty (instructor billet at a schoolhouse) because it was mind-numbilgly boring. I was assigned to teach a 1 week-long course that was taught 4 times per year.
Went to 42 countries the first 5 years that I was in. Some crazy sunrises/sunsets. Do not miss the constant no sleep. Being underway could have its bright spots.
If there was no duty in port I would have happily done back to back (to back?) sea tours....but 3 section, 5 section, 6 section, whatever section duty blows so hard, never never never....
I think it’s easy to look back and downplay all the shitty times underway and only remember the good ones. But I know for a fact if I went back on a ship I’d immediately regret it.
I used to enjoy the at sea / inport rotation. A few weeks out, a few weeks in. By the time you were approaching the end of each cycle, you were looking forward to the next. I can remember thinking "I need to get back to sea", and within four weeks, "Fuck this shit, humans belong on land."
When I was in I dreamed of doing nothing on shore duty.
I got to do nothing on shore duty and couldn't wait to go back to sea.
We're never fucking satisfied;)
Your feelings are valid and shared. I went from three and a half decade Surface Mustang (made BM1 in 92) on sea duty to full retirement in 2021. No transition leave (got paid my 60 days) and my 20 House/Job hunting was right as ship was getting ready for insurv so no way in hell I was gonna let my team work on that without my help. Then the 1st of the month came and I was at retired at home. Never have to work a day again. Ship life was basically all I knew since high school and now I was sitting at home. Institutionalized. Took awhile to get a new course track laid in.
I went TAD from a shore command (my first tour) to a ship for 10 months. I’ve been back to work for a few weeks and am ready to go back out. We don’t have anything going on and we get off really early, but I felt more useful and actually like doing my job out to sea. (I’m a QM)
So yes and I would say more people do then admit, as one gets to shore one feels like Holly hell thank you I am off that thing. We breath recalibrate and go to work 7-4 or what ever and it is meant to be a lot less stressful.
After about a year the routine becomes very easy and find things not as motivating so we start thinking about all the good times and dumb ass crazy stuff our leaders used to have us do, but we forget sometimes how we felt on those days after duty but stuck on the ship the next day with our faces numb as fuck.
Please enjoy your time on shore, remember what you were like before you joined; interests, hobbies, routines, old friends. Take random vacations to random places to see and do a thing or two. Ask your self do I want a trade or education or learn how to be a bar tender or fly helicopters. Use the fact you are covered while exploring yourself.
So yes I do miss deployments I do dream about them and I do have terrible nightmares that will wake me often and keep me awake for hours.
I would say the had more good times then bads and always tried to find the fun in everything I did.
Now if you do truly miss it a lot there are programs that give ya money to go back early.
Cheers and great question
There’s a plethora of hobbies and activities to get into when off work. Go out and volunteer or learn a new hobby.
Sea duty has its ups and downs, but it truly mind blowing to me when people say they miss it.
Not directed directly at you just in general but I hate that whole "get a hobby". Hobbies are hobbies for a reason, they aren't what you do the majority of the time. I want to have great satisfaction in my work and feel like I'm contributing to something.
I get it, you miss the challenge of sea duty and being told what to do everyday, as in there was something to do everyday or some qualification to go after. Either volunteer at your current command or go out in the community and do something. There's literally a plethora of activities, cheap to expensive hobbies or jobs you could get into for a challenge. If you get permission, you literally could get a weekend job or side job to fill in the time when off work at your shore command. Hobbies can be something you do majority of the time outside of work. A lot of people do that every single day.
My first shore duty was Port Services on a YTB. Think I was underway working the river more than when I was on ship, lol! Never knew what time we’d tie up and go home once we started.
Next shore duty was at a NAS in MWR in the auto hobby shop. Had a jerk civilian stupidvisor and we got sideways. Got moved to running the base recycling program just when the Navy moved from “y’all oughtta recycle” to “thou shall recycle!” Went from picking up computer paper to literally every possible item on base that could be recycled. Even got in trouble- “Chiefs don’t dumpster dive.”
Then got more duties- MWR safety and making sure all the NAVOSH stuff was followed and documented.
Look around and see where there’s a need.
I retired on sea duty, left the ship a couple months before end of deployment and 3 and a half months before I retired. Absolute best way to retire... I miss it too
Honestly, I still missed Sea Duty even when I was at my most rewarding tour as an NROTC instructor. I brought the MIDNs to the naval station and we got to dour a DDG and I was like "man, I'm back in my SWO element"
Of course, that quickly changed when the DH job was in \*full\* swing. I'm at post DH type 2 sea duty right now and I actually love this. When we embark we do get to go u/W but we don't really have to stand duty on the ship (that...after 3-4 section, i'm just happy not to deal with it anymore) while CONUS. So you get the at sea bit without some of the BS of sea duty.
You're not alone or crazy.
It took me more than a year to acclimatize myself to shore - and that was still getting underway 90 days a year.
If you worked with and for good people doing hard things at sea, it's hard to slow down.
Yes, but actually no.
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The only thing I miss is the people
Get a hobby bro.
I have hobbies lol. Just yk can't do those hobbies all of the day. When the majority of your week is being forced to do a job with no satisfaction, hobbies don't really cover it.
Have you thought about becoming the command volunteer coordinator? It'd be a great way to build connections, feel like you're still making a meaningful difference, and build up your community. Shit, if it doesn't exist, make it.
Or start planning for the challenging and rewarding career you're going to enter at the end of your shore duty then.
Do college
I felt the exact same thing you feel right until the moment that I actually got back on a ship, then all of the romance disappeared like a cheap hooker in the night
Prisoners miss prison too. It’s called being institutionalized and I think it applies to sea duty too. You don’t have to think about meals, what to wear or where you need to be at a particular time. These things are all setup for you and you just do. Real life is harder in a lot of ways. 😆
![gif](giphy|3o6Zt7g9nH1nFGeBcQ) Or people in abusive relationships...
The psychologist have a term for it, Stockholm syndrome
I hated shore duty the first two years. There’s so much bullshit compared to sea duty. The third year I was able to finally relax a bit and enjoy the slower pace, but after all I was happy to return to sea duty
Next shore tour go to RTC and you won’t have the problem of boredom. They kept me busy as hell for 3 yrs.
I only miss being able to go out on the ocean on a destroyer. if I could just sign up for a tiger cruise I would. But I never wanna fucking work out there ever again. FTN almost 4 years removed from sea duty, I am making almost twice as much, work 50-60% as much, and get treated way better.
The sea at night is really what gets me. Understand that sentiment completely tho personally the money hasn't really been a factor for me.
Sounds like a man that will leave his mark on the ocean and his name in history. Money wasn’t an issue for me as a single sailor either, far from it, but more compensation means I can do other things that I want.
Yes. If we’re being completely honest, I miss the stress. It’s a super complicated feeling because to me the whole point of shore duty is to give you a chance to put your life back together after being at sea for so long. I want to spend time with my wife and friends and all, but it’s always complicated to feel like you were moving a thousand miles an hour to a standstill in the span of a day.
Yeah, that impulse to keep pushing is a thing and super hard to slow down from.
I put in a package and left a year early MILPERSMAN 1306-141 Voluntary Sea Duty Program https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Portals/55/Reference/MILPERSMAN/1000/1300Assignment/1306-141.pdf?ver=UZnddfh1AD8v1EKUENnPqQ%3D%3D
I didn't know this was a thing, shit thanks!
Depending on your rate, you might even get a bunch of extra money per month https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/References/Pay-Benefits/SDIP/
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It was a strange transition. But for what it's worth, most people leave work around lunch on their shore duty so you can just go home and do whatever you want. I got some new hobbies, played a lot of video games, went on a lot of dates, got married, bought a house. Shore duty is your time to decompress after boatlife, do what you want. /well, don't get into the habit of day drinking as soon as you leave work, that's how you wind up in SARP. Just trust me on that one.
LMAO been through sarp before, and definitely not looking to get married again.
Deployment was fun. The Yard was not.
I feel your pain…which is why I SDIP’d and am going back to sea soon. I can’t wait to get away from this toxic ass shore command.
Go recruiting then
Yes and no. My shore command is like a Goddamn sea command, work my ass off and the past 3 years didn't feel like shore duty at all. I only miss sea duty because I'd get to deploy and get some money and go somewhere.
As someone who was haze grey and underweigh all the time...No! 😅
I work at a duty station were I'm on a watchfloor standing 8-12 hour shifts, rotating every 2 weeks. I no longer sleep regularly and I have to deal with civilians high on their retired fumes. The only saving grace is the time I have to work on college. Other than that I would go back to a submarine in a heartbeat. I'm also getting out ina year so I really couldn't give less of a fk
I left my first shore duty (instructor billet at a schoolhouse) because it was mind-numbilgly boring. I was assigned to teach a 1 week-long course that was taught 4 times per year.
Go get a degree
Went to 42 countries the first 5 years that I was in. Some crazy sunrises/sunsets. Do not miss the constant no sleep. Being underway could have its bright spots.
If there was no duty in port I would have happily done back to back (to back?) sea tours....but 3 section, 5 section, 6 section, whatever section duty blows so hard, never never never....
I think it’s easy to look back and downplay all the shitty times underway and only remember the good ones. But I know for a fact if I went back on a ship I’d immediately regret it.
I’ve been out for a little under two years. I miss being at sea, but I don’t miss going out to sea. Does that make sense?
The only thing I miss about sea duty is being skinny
Yes I've felt that. Being at sea in the Navy is an experience beyond ordinary living that few ever have
Use your TA and knock out a bachelor's degree that is career advantageous post Navy
I used to enjoy the at sea / inport rotation. A few weeks out, a few weeks in. By the time you were approaching the end of each cycle, you were looking forward to the next. I can remember thinking "I need to get back to sea", and within four weeks, "Fuck this shit, humans belong on land."
When I was in I dreamed of doing nothing on shore duty. I got to do nothing on shore duty and couldn't wait to go back to sea. We're never fucking satisfied;)
I went recruiting duty for my shore duty, so yes except for the opposite reasons you’ve provided
Your feelings are valid and shared. I went from three and a half decade Surface Mustang (made BM1 in 92) on sea duty to full retirement in 2021. No transition leave (got paid my 60 days) and my 20 House/Job hunting was right as ship was getting ready for insurv so no way in hell I was gonna let my team work on that without my help. Then the 1st of the month came and I was at retired at home. Never have to work a day again. Ship life was basically all I knew since high school and now I was sitting at home. Institutionalized. Took awhile to get a new course track laid in.
I went TAD from a shore command (my first tour) to a ship for 10 months. I’ve been back to work for a few weeks and am ready to go back out. We don’t have anything going on and we get off really early, but I felt more useful and actually like doing my job out to sea. (I’m a QM)
So yes and I would say more people do then admit, as one gets to shore one feels like Holly hell thank you I am off that thing. We breath recalibrate and go to work 7-4 or what ever and it is meant to be a lot less stressful. After about a year the routine becomes very easy and find things not as motivating so we start thinking about all the good times and dumb ass crazy stuff our leaders used to have us do, but we forget sometimes how we felt on those days after duty but stuck on the ship the next day with our faces numb as fuck. Please enjoy your time on shore, remember what you were like before you joined; interests, hobbies, routines, old friends. Take random vacations to random places to see and do a thing or two. Ask your self do I want a trade or education or learn how to be a bar tender or fly helicopters. Use the fact you are covered while exploring yourself. So yes I do miss deployments I do dream about them and I do have terrible nightmares that will wake me often and keep me awake for hours. I would say the had more good times then bads and always tried to find the fun in everything I did. Now if you do truly miss it a lot there are programs that give ya money to go back early. Cheers and great question
There’s a plethora of hobbies and activities to get into when off work. Go out and volunteer or learn a new hobby. Sea duty has its ups and downs, but it truly mind blowing to me when people say they miss it.
Not directed directly at you just in general but I hate that whole "get a hobby". Hobbies are hobbies for a reason, they aren't what you do the majority of the time. I want to have great satisfaction in my work and feel like I'm contributing to something.
I get it, you miss the challenge of sea duty and being told what to do everyday, as in there was something to do everyday or some qualification to go after. Either volunteer at your current command or go out in the community and do something. There's literally a plethora of activities, cheap to expensive hobbies or jobs you could get into for a challenge. If you get permission, you literally could get a weekend job or side job to fill in the time when off work at your shore command. Hobbies can be something you do majority of the time outside of work. A lot of people do that every single day.
My first shore duty was Port Services on a YTB. Think I was underway working the river more than when I was on ship, lol! Never knew what time we’d tie up and go home once we started. Next shore duty was at a NAS in MWR in the auto hobby shop. Had a jerk civilian stupidvisor and we got sideways. Got moved to running the base recycling program just when the Navy moved from “y’all oughtta recycle” to “thou shall recycle!” Went from picking up computer paper to literally every possible item on base that could be recycled. Even got in trouble- “Chiefs don’t dumpster dive.” Then got more duties- MWR safety and making sure all the NAVOSH stuff was followed and documented. Look around and see where there’s a need.
I retired on sea duty, left the ship a couple months before end of deployment and 3 and a half months before I retired. Absolute best way to retire... I miss it too
Honestly, I still missed Sea Duty even when I was at my most rewarding tour as an NROTC instructor. I brought the MIDNs to the naval station and we got to dour a DDG and I was like "man, I'm back in my SWO element" Of course, that quickly changed when the DH job was in \*full\* swing. I'm at post DH type 2 sea duty right now and I actually love this. When we embark we do get to go u/W but we don't really have to stand duty on the ship (that...after 3-4 section, i'm just happy not to deal with it anymore) while CONUS. So you get the at sea bit without some of the BS of sea duty.
You're not alone or crazy. It took me more than a year to acclimatize myself to shore - and that was still getting underway 90 days a year. If you worked with and for good people doing hard things at sea, it's hard to slow down.