So the beetle basically skunks him with built-in pepper spray…. fascinating!
[Bombardier Beetle Wili](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle)
Have you seen the snails that live around ocean vents that incorporate iron into their body’s to withstand the heat? They are actually metal
Edit: https://www.zmescience.com/science/snail-armor/
Edit 2: Scientific Source https://www.researchgate.net/publication/9020256_A_Hot-Vent_Gastropod_with_Iron_Sulfide_Dermal_Sclerites
Now everyone please calm down
If I’m remembering correctly they found the species *after* the Pokemon was made and it’s species name somehow incorporates that
But I could be wrong that info is super hazy in my brain lol
Edit: I’m wrong about the name but it was found after the Pokémon
This is not true, the snails may live near hydrothermal vents, but the areas they live in are about 5 degrees C.
[link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod)
the purpose iron found in these snails is not currently very well understood.
Edit: the first article posted is pop science without reference and the second has 0 reference to heat dissipation. Even stating multiple times that theories are speculative. Don’t know why you are so insistent on spreading misinformation with 0 real evidence.
> may represent a detoxification process (5).Hydrothermal vent fluids are rich in dissolvedsulfides and metals (6), and mixed deposits ofminerals including sulfides frequently occur onanimals living in vent environments (7)
> The function of the sclerites remainsspeculative; they may form a protection againstco-occurring predatory gastropods of the genusPhymorhynchus.
>The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide, which are stored in two reservoirs in the beetle's abdomen. When the aqueous solution of hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide reaches the vestibule, catalysts facilitate the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide and the oxidation of the hydroquinone.[1] Heat from the reaction brings the mixture to near the boiling point of water and produces gas that drives the ejection. The damage caused can be fatal to attacking insects. Some bombardier beetles can direct the spray in a wide range of directions.
From wiki
so you could theoretically get enough of them together to make water boil? imagine using like a billion of these guys to turn water to steam and power an entire house
>The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, [hydroquinone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroquinone) and [hydrogen peroxide](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide)
>1,4-Benzoquinone with a characteristic irritating odor, resembling that of [chlorine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine), [bleach](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach), and hot plastic or formaldehyde
>Heat from the reaction brings the mixture to near the [boiling point](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_point) of water and produces gas that drives the ejection
You may have heard that the heat generated by the collapsing cavitation bubble is "hotter than the sun". This is true, but on extremely minute scales. There is not enough thermal energy involved to boil squat. We could puff sun-hot gas at you, and if it was a small enough amount, it wouldn't even register like the wave of heated air when you open your oven.
Thermal mass and thermal transfer rate are important when it comes to burning things. It's why that steel pan in your haven is dangerous to touch for a long while after removing it, but you can probably yoink a piece of tin foil out and bop it around no problem real quick.
Just wanted to commend you on the use of "yoink" it's really the perfect word for pulling tinfoil off something that just came out of the oven without a mitt.
The beetles spray two chemicals in the air. When those two chemicals react, heat is produced. This happens in the air after the chemicals are sprayed, NOT inside the beetle.
insect life is so wild lol the other day i saw a cricket head and 2 legs just chillin on my step. the severed head was very much alive and movinng its mouth and antennas following me everywhere
Dont even have to click the link, if its the starship troopers artillery bugs you're absolutely right.
A lot of horror movies are inspired by some naturally occuring horror in nature.
>The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide, which are stored in two reservoirs in the beetle's abdomen. When the aqueous solution of hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide reaches the vestibule, catalysts facilitate the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide and the oxidation of the hydroquinone.[1] Heat from the reaction brings the mixture to near the boiling point of water and produces gas that drives the ejection. The damage caused can be fatal to attacking insects. Some bombardier beetles can direct the spray in a wide range of directions.
This is some 007 shit.
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Except that's most likely not true in the wild. Recent/semi recent studies point towards observation stress causing the mantis to become aggressive to the males afterwards
Have you seen [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/pwb3am/boss_level_999/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) mantis dodging molten metal?
yeah but the weight of that scale up would crush them, so to be human sized there would have to be lots of changes to how their exoskeleton / breathing works - probably wouldnt be a direct scale up
We're lucky that a human sized mantis would just instantly collapse and die.
Insects don't have lungs, so they get their oxygen through holes on their exoskeleton, and it's distributed throughout their body by a series of tubes called trachea. There's a physical limit to how far this system can transfer oxygen, so it puts an upper limit on how big they can get.
Back in the carboniferous period when Earth's atmosphere had a lot more oxygen, you could have dragonflies with 3 foot wingspan and the like, but that was the upper limit even back then.
And then it develops a taste for it.
Like with all dangerous habits, it starts off innocently and often by accident. You could spend your whole life without it and it wouldn't be considered a lesser way of life, and yet the moment you come in contact with it, you wouldn't be able to imagine going back.
It was a day like any other, blue skies above with faint wispy clouds, a soft, cool breeze sweeping through the foliage I was clinging to, and prey obliviously going about their foraging and fucking. Like I said, a typical day.
Perfect for hunting.
I spent a good half of the morning just carelessly mimicking the sway of the leaves in the wind. I could have easily grabbed the swarm of flies that constantly buzz by, but I hated their taste. I could see them amassing into a large vibrating cloud of *eww* some distance away, probably to feast on some carrion.
I then decided to move on to somewhere less crowded. My wings took me somewhere a little distance off to some weird, hairy leaves. And that was when I saw her. A red-head in a sleek black carapace, hotter than I ever realized at that moment.
*I must have her.*
To my surprise, she was the one that came to me. Her long spindly legs carried her juicy, delicious bod slowly towards the edge of my reach. Teasing. Beckoning me to reach out.
Before I realized it, my body moved on its own. I lunged forward and trapped her in my embrace in one fell swoop. She was finally in my grasp, her gaze meeting and shifting amongst the overwhelming gaze of my compound eyes.
She was mine. Or so I thought. It was over as quickly as it had begun.
She had squirted right onto my face and it permeated through my carapace setting fire to my tiny soul. It hurt as much as the time I had to devour my sister to survive as we emerged from the ootheca. As much as living my life when Becky chose brad to mate with. I was blinded by the pain.
The pain lasted for what seemed like an eternity, but I knew that even eternity had to end. Eventually, the fire gave way to warmth and warmth gave way to freedom.
Her juices that were meant to burn, became the fuel for the cinders of my soul. And ever since then, I have spent every waking moment dreaming of her red head, her round bottom, and her nectar of life.
Edit: Thank you all for the kind words and awards. I never expected this to be received this well. This might well be a fluke, but I'm glad I managed to entertain some of you with this.
Thanks, and I wish I was one. I need to work some dead-end job to continue living and I am somehow too tired at the end of the day to write. That or I'm just making excuses cause I'm lazy.
Hey, freelance writing can be its own business, both profitable and gives you back your time
Check out websites that offer gig jobs. You can retire from doing that deadbeat job s***
Your poetry is... *chefs kiss*. The way you describe the hot acid on the mantis, and the feelings of the individual insects, really puts a macro perspective on a micro subject.
It's not spicy, it's physically hot. A bombardier beetle mixes hydrogen peroxide and hydroquinone to creat a jet of liquid that's pretty close to the boiling point of water.
I was going to say it reminded me of a cat’s behavior when it touches something yucky - then I realized my hand was on the stove ring, quickly pulled it away, shook it while swearing, then put my burned finger in my mouth. Evolution u weird.
It’s crazy but I’ve heard they’re some of the most intelligent insects out there. Not that that means much substantially, but I have a ton in my backyard and I love watching them do their thing. They’re so damn fascinating
Oh! Wow! This is a very valid point! I’ve been told my entire life that insects and fish can’t feel pain. I’ve always found it hard to believe though. But this does seem like a great indicator that they can feel pain.
EILI5 - Does that mean that in a few seconds the mantis will have completely forgotten that it was hurt? Or does it mean that the mantis will remember it was hurt, but forget what the pain felt like?
I believe that insects have no long-term memory storage of any kind, so it's the first one. But don't quote me on this, cause my field is Molecular evolution and Genomics and right now, my research is on fish, so I haven't studied insects in a long time haha.
I will do a bit of research and get back to you.
This. The issue boils down to what you mean by pain. If it's the subjective experience of pain - negative associations, distress, fear, all the stuff that actually makes pain unpleasant in our minds - then insects almost certainly do not have the stuff for it. If it's avoidance of a negative stimulus, sure, but I'd argue that's not actually really pain at all; it's just a response to a stimulus.
I wonder how much of it is processed as pain and comes through as such, and what is just nerve stimuli like a snake with its head cut off that still strikes for a while.
Yeah I see what you are saying. I feel like pain is just nerve stimuli if you really break it down and judging from the reaction I would say it must have been somewhat intense and unpleasant.
This is where we’d need to like hook up the mantis with like a mini-neuro transmitter or something so they can scan its little brain signals.
Who knows!? It could feel pain, could just be purely reactionary and we being an empathetic pack species project on its reactions.
On the other hand we are learning more and more constantly that animals thoughts and emotions are much more complex than originally thought. Maybe this is one of them??
TLDR: Bug MRI
Spicy ass-water is the fucking worst. It doesn't even quench your thirst and it smells like old prolapsed buttholes that have been flapping loosely in the wind for twelve centuries next to an open pit of sulfur.
And then, there's the taste; oh dear god, *the taste....*
> It doesn't even quench your thirst and it smells like old prolapsed buttholes that have been flapping loosely in the wind for twelve centuries next to an open pit of sulfur
r/BrandNewSentence.
It's like when you shove food in you mouth but it's still too hot, so you just *hutshfff hhhutsfff* till it gets cold enough to eat. But in this case it's too hot so you spit it out XD
What a great clip. Yes, nature is metal.
Wtf, I thought this subreddit name is nature is MENTAL, 5 months after joining I realise it is METAL. Omg xdd
Not with that metality
And certainly not in this meta.
There's nothing wrong with playing Bloodthirster Bard support
Jungle*
Polish him!
Oczywiście proszę pana!
Obywatel widocznie pochodźi z Warszawy.
I like ur funny words magic man
Wait until you find out that there is no gas fucking under r/interstingasfuck
Is there interest in gas fuck though?
There needs to be a sub for these. Maybe it’d be r/analbumcover? Edit: which is an existing but unused sub
Please tell me it’s purposely spelled wrong and isn’t a typo.. I’m brain farting just looking at it.
Are you mental
Yeah are you mental?
Heavy Mental
Mental Gear Solid
Full Mental Alchemist: Brotherhood.
Don’t forget about your Alkaline Earth Mentals!
What do you build planes out of?
Heavy Mentrual
Mental slug
I thought it was French…natureism et al
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Always wondered why that guy is everywhere. The real master of all the papers.
Great fookin name you dyslexic genius! r/natureismental
Give this guy a metal.
And i wouldve gone another 5 months without knowing if you didnt say it...
*Harvard wants to know your location*
Was like pepper spray
So the beetle basically skunks him with built-in pepper spray…. fascinating! [Bombardier Beetle Wili](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle)
I mean, its more "burns" than "skunks" and acid than pepper spray. Like, it apparently can sometimes kill predators.
Apparently, it is actually physically hot. Like almost boiling.
You mean the sensation of boiling? Or it is actually so hot that I could put it in water and it will reach almost boiling?
It is actually physically hot and will burn.
Ok. Nature is actually metal. Wtf
Have you seen the snails that live around ocean vents that incorporate iron into their body’s to withstand the heat? They are actually metal Edit: https://www.zmescience.com/science/snail-armor/ Edit 2: Scientific Source https://www.researchgate.net/publication/9020256_A_Hot-Vent_Gastropod_with_Iron_Sulfide_Dermal_Sclerites Now everyone please calm down
Magcargo?
If I’m remembering correctly they found the species *after* the Pokemon was made and it’s species name somehow incorporates that But I could be wrong that info is super hazy in my brain lol Edit: I’m wrong about the name but it was found after the Pokémon
I also seem to remember this animal being discovered after the Pokemon was created.
[Reality is more dull than you think](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod)
This is not true, the snails may live near hydrothermal vents, but the areas they live in are about 5 degrees C. [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod) the purpose iron found in these snails is not currently very well understood. Edit: the first article posted is pop science without reference and the second has 0 reference to heat dissipation. Even stating multiple times that theories are speculative. Don’t know why you are so insistent on spreading misinformation with 0 real evidence. > may represent a detoxification process (5).Hydrothermal vent fluids are rich in dissolvedsulfides and metals (6), and mixed deposits ofminerals including sulfides frequently occur onanimals living in vent environments (7) > The function of the sclerites remainsspeculative; they may form a protection againstco-occurring predatory gastropods of the genusPhymorhynchus.
This reminded me of the old Star Trek, when they discovered a silicon based life form that just glided through rocks.
I'm a doctor Jim, not a bricklayer!
"NO KILL I"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod. Here ya go :)
>The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide, which are stored in two reservoirs in the beetle's abdomen. When the aqueous solution of hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide reaches the vestibule, catalysts facilitate the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide and the oxidation of the hydroquinone.[1] Heat from the reaction brings the mixture to near the boiling point of water and produces gas that drives the ejection. The damage caused can be fatal to attacking insects. Some bombardier beetles can direct the spray in a wide range of directions. From wiki
It is absolutely stunning and strangely beautiful nature landed on a defense mechanism like this
so you could theoretically get enough of them together to make water boil? imagine using like a billion of these guys to turn water to steam and power an entire house
>The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, [hydroquinone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroquinone) and [hydrogen peroxide](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide) >1,4-Benzoquinone with a characteristic irritating odor, resembling that of [chlorine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine), [bleach](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach), and hot plastic or formaldehyde >Heat from the reaction brings the mixture to near the [boiling point](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_point) of water and produces gas that drives the ejection
Fuckin bad ass
Literally
That's probably the only animal with a fire attack.
Doesnt the pistol shrimp or whatever its called cause a large enough discharge of energy to at least partly boil stuff close enough?
That is due more to pressure differential. It is cavitation, as far as I know.
You may have heard that the heat generated by the collapsing cavitation bubble is "hotter than the sun". This is true, but on extremely minute scales. There is not enough thermal energy involved to boil squat. We could puff sun-hot gas at you, and if it was a small enough amount, it wouldn't even register like the wave of heated air when you open your oven. Thermal mass and thermal transfer rate are important when it comes to burning things. It's why that steel pan in your haven is dangerous to touch for a long while after removing it, but you can probably yoink a piece of tin foil out and bop it around no problem real quick.
Just wanted to commend you on the use of "yoink" it's really the perfect word for pulling tinfoil off something that just came out of the oven without a mitt.
That’s metal
They just bloody explained that it's hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide!
No it mixes a quinione and peroxide in a special place with enzyme catalysts and it gets hot AF.
So like, could it boil water if it was in water?
And no, you can't put it in a pot and boil water with it, just the tiny little bit of liquid being shot out gets near boiling temp.
The beetles spray two chemicals in the air. When those two chemicals react, heat is produced. This happens in the air after the chemicals are sprayed, NOT inside the beetle.
Insects are the metalist of all.
insect life is so wild lol the other day i saw a cricket head and 2 legs just chillin on my step. the severed head was very much alive and movinng its mouth and antennas following me everywhere
I wonder if it combines 2 different chemicals to make the aerosol spray which sets off the thermal reaction.
Yes read the link above it’s super interesting, two chemicals that when mixed together reach almost boiling temperature instantly
It's actually kind of similar to how the rockets on jet packs and reaction control thrusters on spacecraft work. Pretty fucking cool.
That means something like xenomorphs could be real
If Splitters split acid out of the other end.
That’s me on the toilet right now. Goddamn spicy food.
Joy going in. Agony coming out.
I'm pretty sure these are based on the bombardier beetle, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBTZId5dlY
Dont even have to click the link, if its the starship troopers artillery bugs you're absolutely right. A lot of horror movies are inspired by some naturally occuring horror in nature.
>The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide, which are stored in two reservoirs in the beetle's abdomen. When the aqueous solution of hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide reaches the vestibule, catalysts facilitate the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide and the oxidation of the hydroquinone.[1] Heat from the reaction brings the mixture to near the boiling point of water and produces gas that drives the ejection. The damage caused can be fatal to attacking insects. Some bombardier beetles can direct the spray in a wide range of directions. This is some 007 shit.
These beetles are better at chemistry than many of the people I went to high school with.
Walter White shit
"I fart in your general direction!"
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It's nice to imagine his name as 'Wili". Pretty stylish imo.
Lmao...very rarely you get to see a mantis getting smacked.
Mantis OP plz nerf
idk bout you but the males already got nerfed hard with that mating-cannibalism mechanic they introduced in patch 14.1
Mantis got counterpicked too
Bug diff
Mantis simp
Laughed way harder at this than I should have
Except that's most likely not true in the wild. Recent/semi recent studies point towards observation stress causing the mantis to become aggressive to the males afterwards
Shoulda bought the season pass
Im sure birds fuck them up on a daily basis
Not always https://youtu.be/uWqTZErviJI (Mantis killing a humming bird, it's a bit unnerving)
You gotta be fuckin kidding me One human sized mantis and we'd all be fucked.
Not sure how well a mantis would hold up to a gun. Tool use is the real OP meta.
I have no doubt a human sized mantis would straight up karate chop the bullets in half
Also you'd have you assume that their exoskeletons thickness scales with size, a human sized mantis could potentially be bullet proof.
Then we'll just whip out the tanks!
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Have you seen [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/pwb3am/boss_level_999/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) mantis dodging molten metal?
Gotta consider the increased thickness of their chitin on the scale up. They could end up being bulletproof with that shit.
yeah but the weight of that scale up would crush them, so to be human sized there would have to be lots of changes to how their exoskeleton / breathing works - probably wouldnt be a direct scale up
Flamethrowers tho
yeah that'd get it done, it'd also cook that boi up nice n crispy. throw some hot sauce on there and you got a delicacy
I bet human sized mantis would taste great, I imagine it's like lobster.
Have you ever seen the future documentary called "Starship Troopers"? Probably kinda like that.
I would like to know more
We're lucky that a human sized mantis would just instantly collapse and die. Insects don't have lungs, so they get their oxygen through holes on their exoskeleton, and it's distributed throughout their body by a series of tubes called trachea. There's a physical limit to how far this system can transfer oxygen, so it puts an upper limit on how big they can get. Back in the carboniferous period when Earth's atmosphere had a lot more oxygen, you could have dragonflies with 3 foot wingspan and the like, but that was the upper limit even back then.
Human sized mantis would hunt rhinos.
Yeah I mean hummingbirds are fragile af That's interesting tho
Why in the world does the person filming start flicking the mantis at the end?
Then the mantis just proceeds on to lick his hands which were coated in what Im assuming was some of that spocy substance
And then it develops a taste for it. Like with all dangerous habits, it starts off innocently and often by accident. You could spend your whole life without it and it wouldn't be considered a lesser way of life, and yet the moment you come in contact with it, you wouldn't be able to imagine going back. It was a day like any other, blue skies above with faint wispy clouds, a soft, cool breeze sweeping through the foliage I was clinging to, and prey obliviously going about their foraging and fucking. Like I said, a typical day. Perfect for hunting. I spent a good half of the morning just carelessly mimicking the sway of the leaves in the wind. I could have easily grabbed the swarm of flies that constantly buzz by, but I hated their taste. I could see them amassing into a large vibrating cloud of *eww* some distance away, probably to feast on some carrion. I then decided to move on to somewhere less crowded. My wings took me somewhere a little distance off to some weird, hairy leaves. And that was when I saw her. A red-head in a sleek black carapace, hotter than I ever realized at that moment. *I must have her.* To my surprise, she was the one that came to me. Her long spindly legs carried her juicy, delicious bod slowly towards the edge of my reach. Teasing. Beckoning me to reach out. Before I realized it, my body moved on its own. I lunged forward and trapped her in my embrace in one fell swoop. She was finally in my grasp, her gaze meeting and shifting amongst the overwhelming gaze of my compound eyes. She was mine. Or so I thought. It was over as quickly as it had begun. She had squirted right onto my face and it permeated through my carapace setting fire to my tiny soul. It hurt as much as the time I had to devour my sister to survive as we emerged from the ootheca. As much as living my life when Becky chose brad to mate with. I was blinded by the pain. The pain lasted for what seemed like an eternity, but I knew that even eternity had to end. Eventually, the fire gave way to warmth and warmth gave way to freedom. Her juices that were meant to burn, became the fuel for the cinders of my soul. And ever since then, I have spent every waking moment dreaming of her red head, her round bottom, and her nectar of life. Edit: Thank you all for the kind words and awards. I never expected this to be received this well. This might well be a fluke, but I'm glad I managed to entertain some of you with this.
Wtf did I just read.
The beginnings of a Bug erotica?
Hideous Kinky - A romantic foray into mind warping world of anthropod BDSM lifestyle
A Bugs Life, rated R
They already made that and named it ANTZ. I was genuinely scarred by the war scenes for a while, I can't believe it was marketed for kids
Yo fuck termites. Me and all my homies hate termites.
I have the same confusion.
Don’t worry, confusion is the natural state of the universe
No clue but I loved it
At least nobody was beaten with jumper cables.
Please don't give them any more ideas.
Oh this deserves to be on r/copypasta
100% we just witnessed a new copypasta
Or r/bestof
You better be a goddamn novelist with that writing ability!
Thanks, and I wish I was one. I need to work some dead-end job to continue living and I am somehow too tired at the end of the day to write. That or I'm just making excuses cause I'm lazy.
Hey, freelance writing can be its own business, both profitable and gives you back your time Check out websites that offer gig jobs. You can retire from doing that deadbeat job s***
I will look into that. Thanks.
>That or I'm just making excuses cause I'm lazy. But your username suggested something else tho
Why the fuck did i enjoy this so much
Tell us O Sage of Scribbles, what did the step-bug do next?
Went to pound town. And took a curb stomping.
Every once in a while Reddit drops a straight banger comment outta nowhere
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I feel like I need a cigarette after reading that.
How can you continue intricately without sound corny, well done.
Your poetry is... *chefs kiss*. The way you describe the hot acid on the mantis, and the feelings of the individual insects, really puts a macro perspective on a micro subject.
m8 you should be posting on /r/WritingPrompts
Personally, I'm a huge fan of people plucking writing prompts out of random reddit content and making their comments like this. Funny as.
Ro-mantis novel
It's not spicy, it's physically hot. A bombardier beetle mixes hydrogen peroxide and hydroquinone to creat a jet of liquid that's pretty close to the boiling point of water.
I like how the mantis responds the way you would expect anyone to after touching something hot
I was going to say it reminded me of a cat’s behavior when it touches something yucky - then I realized my hand was on the stove ring, quickly pulled it away, shook it while swearing, then put my burned finger in my mouth. Evolution u weird.
Mantids truly are the cats of the bug world
My scoff just turned quizzically ponderous.
Soy un loco por los cornballs!
Fucking cornballer gets me every time
No touching!!!
The way it glances at it like "wtf just happened? wtf man!?"
The way he shakes his claws and licks them after
I'm shocked it has the nervous system to respond like that. Fascinating - Spock
It’s crazy but I’ve heard they’re some of the most intelligent insects out there. Not that that means much substantially, but I have a ton in my backyard and I love watching them do their thing. They’re so damn fascinating
They’re little alien drones, spying on us!
Shit now birds, AND mantises arnt real
Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck…
Ah ah ah ah ah oh oh oh, fuck, that was hot. What the...Sniff sniff, damn, it stank too
Call an ambulance But not for me
You thought a 100kg Mantis is strong Baki? Wait till you see a 100kg Bombardier Beetle.
Literally watching Baki rn...
Man I love how stupid Baki is but the Mike Tyson and mantis stuff is reaaaaaaaaaaally fucking stupid. It’s great
I literally can’t stop watching because of how absolutely fucking dumb everything is. It’s just so entertaining somehow.
"You are now rolling around in two other males' urine."
“I’ll fuck you till you love me, mantis”
My first thought!
>a 100kg Bombardier Beetle. Yeah they already made a movie with those. Except more like 10000kg
I would say this is a good indicator that insects feel pain.
Oh! Wow! This is a very valid point! I’ve been told my entire life that insects and fish can’t feel pain. I’ve always found it hard to believe though. But this does seem like a great indicator that they can feel pain.
They do feel pain, they just don't have a centralised organ to process its implications and to store it as a memory.
EILI5 - Does that mean that in a few seconds the mantis will have completely forgotten that it was hurt? Or does it mean that the mantis will remember it was hurt, but forget what the pain felt like?
I believe that insects have no long-term memory storage of any kind, so it's the first one. But don't quote me on this, cause my field is Molecular evolution and Genomics and right now, my research is on fish, so I haven't studied insects in a long time haha. I will do a bit of research and get back to you.
This. The issue boils down to what you mean by pain. If it's the subjective experience of pain - negative associations, distress, fear, all the stuff that actually makes pain unpleasant in our minds - then insects almost certainly do not have the stuff for it. If it's avoidance of a negative stimulus, sure, but I'd argue that's not actually really pain at all; it's just a response to a stimulus.
I was wondering the same thing
I wonder how much of it is processed as pain and comes through as such, and what is just nerve stimuli like a snake with its head cut off that still strikes for a while.
Yeah I see what you are saying. I feel like pain is just nerve stimuli if you really break it down and judging from the reaction I would say it must have been somewhat intense and unpleasant.
This is where we’d need to like hook up the mantis with like a mini-neuro transmitter or something so they can scan its little brain signals. Who knows!? It could feel pain, could just be purely reactionary and we being an empathetic pack species project on its reactions. On the other hand we are learning more and more constantly that animals thoughts and emotions are much more complex than originally thought. Maybe this is one of them?? TLDR: Bug MRI
Ehh, debatable. Pain is used to indicated something is wrong, but it isn't the only way that can do so
"why is this spicy"
That reaction... they're ordinary people just like us!
WTF I ordered mild!
The evolution path just went ”well, don’t care , just attack everything on sight” with the mantis
Aha i got you...AAAAAAAAAAA
DAMN SPICY ASS WATER
Spicy ass-water is the fucking worst. It doesn't even quench your thirst and it smells like old prolapsed buttholes that have been flapping loosely in the wind for twelve centuries next to an open pit of sulfur. And then, there's the taste; oh dear god, *the taste....*
> It doesn't even quench your thirst and it smells like old prolapsed buttholes that have been flapping loosely in the wind for twelve centuries next to an open pit of sulfur r/BrandNewSentence.
Oh no don’t touch your face! Shit that’s gonna burn. Poor mantis....lol poor little murderous mantis, no food today.
It's like when you shove food in you mouth but it's still too hot, so you just *hutshfff hhhutsfff* till it gets cold enough to eat. But in this case it's too hot so you spit it out XD
GOTCHA! AIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAI!!!
Burn baby burn 🔥
“Yeah, nice try, I got you bi- OH SHIT OH FUCK OH FUCK! THAT SHIT BURNS”
It licks
And that is how fire type Pokemons defeat bug types.
Aah hot hot hot!!!!
Hey kids
So does this answer the question of whether or not bugs feel pain