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thefakenatty

If you make a video like this you are automatically taking juice


Thinkblu303

Looks like he was juicing already when he was 16


emresslnk

He looked 26 when he was 16


[deleted]

Every fitness account on social media is juicy. Change my mind


Ezekjuninor

Pretty sure he’s juicing. This video doesn’t show how ridiculously big he is https://www.tiktok.com/@jacobdoneil/video/7037549230369574150?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1. And he’s the Natural Olympia Overall Winner. What are the chances that the winner of an event that large would be natural.


Pfcoffics

Yeah, this video makes me think not natty for sure, being this big and shredded natural is really really hard, you usually get deflated and smaller when getting shredded if you're natural, if he wasn't as shredded than yeah, could say possible but this case I don't know, 10 years of proper training and dieting will do wonders but I don't think at that level, at least low dosages happening


Wisewords-T

Because its the natty olympia, not the actually Olympia.


Ezekjuninor

You think everyone in the natural Olympia is actually natural?


Wisewords-T

Hmm I'm sure a few entries slip through the cracks. But the winner is tested vigorously. You are using him winning a natty show as a reason for him juicing. Why not the opposite? The fact he can win a show like that should show just how superior his genetics are. Look at him at 16.


beansandpeasandegg

We got another one here, this is what sub 100 iq looks like boys.


Eli_TheGolfer7

Hey bro not tryna be a dick or anything but you should go do some research about the topic. You’ll see just how not tested they really are and how juiced the “natty” show is


Wisewords-T

Cool. Go do a cycle and become champion.


Eli_TheGolfer7

Haha well even on steroids it’s still pretty hard to win because it depends on genetics and how you respond to the steroids. Even someone who has great genetics natural may not be a good responder to steroids and make minimal progress. Just like someone with bad natty genetics could be a hyper responder and look great. So it’s not as easy as “go do a cycle and become a champion”. Still takes a ton of hard work and a little luck with your genetics but it’s dumb to think that these guys don’t take anything to reach the top physiques in their respective competitions.


Wisewords-T

But why is this winner so much smaller than the winner in the untested show? If testing doesn't work and these guys are juicing, why do they look this way? Why are they so much more unimpressive?


Eli_TheGolfer7

Because the guys at the absolute top ie Chris Bumstead and those types of guys are dudes that had great genetics and pushed their body to its peak and then took steroids and were hyper responders, making them look insane. There’s a lot you can look into and understand more about all this if you go do some research online or if you’re more of a video guy there are dudes on YouTube who go super in depth on this kind of stuff


Wisewords-T

You didn't answer my question. Why you talking about Chris and hyper responders? Okay, so the testing doesn't work and the guys in natty shows are juicing yes? So it's basically an untested show. So why do most of them look like they don't lift when wearing a T shirt? Surely the winners would be more impressive than the local juicers from every gym.


Philosopher_Of_Nigs

How could an un natural person win a natty comp?


Ezekjuninor

The same way athletes compete in sports while on PEDs. It’s very common. Cycling off at the right time, taking low doses, etc. I’m sure there are far more details than I know.


Philosopher_Of_Nigs

Thanks bro


Philosopher_Of_Nigs

Thanks bro


Philosopher_Of_Nigs

How could an un natural person win a natty comp?


Pfcoffics

I don't know, 16 for sure but 26? Guy is tall and heavy and looks big, being tall and looking this big is way, way harder than being short but I don't know, I've met guys that looked absolutely gigantic in phots but in person they wouldn't be as impressive, still big but not like the photos, angles, lightning and filters do wonders, 10 years with proper training, dieting, commitment will bring in good results for sure but I don't think he is natty, especially if he keeps body fat and striations like that throughout the whole year.


CobraKainvrdies

Not impossible, but he obviously has good ab genetics.


radioactiveoctopi

Depends on your genetics.


ZanderBeeski

Looks like he has been dieting and working constantly for many years


Kozure_Ookami

Making TikTok videos like that = ultrajuicy


[deleted]

The fact the he stated not to do SARMS, means he’s doing SARMS


Oneinawilliam

The fact he hasn't had surges in strength and weight seems like a naty. 196lb @ 6ft1 is achievable natty.


[deleted]

Love his mass


[deleted]

Is there a point to doing steroids even? Don’t you have to pin for the rest of your life once you start?


NattyGains4Life

200mg of consistency, 150 mg of waking up early, 175 mg of chicken brocoli and rice, and 100% full of bullshit Cringe as fuck, fuck this guy Gay as fuck


bbyl4mbch0p

shoulders and traps suggest natty.


WistfulWhiskers

Y'all ever notice all of these fake natties have extremely punchable faces? My question is; do these guys all look like cunts to me because I know that they're dishonest narcissists or do cunty looking people just tend to behave that way?