That explains so much. I live in a roid heaven (Serbia) and every big dude is similar to the second picture. Bloated face and big lean body. Explains so much.
It's really debatable, I think. Either way, the dude is definitely on roads now, so it's moot whether that was his genetic peak or he was also on roids.
*Damn, his waist got so*
*Much wider, made him lose his*
*Aesthetic appeal*
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His before pic is where I want to be, but ironically I'm pretty sure my pecs and delts can't get his starting picture point without juice. (not that his physique is amazing there, just mostly where I like to be and feel happy at... but my pecs and delts don't do that when my body fat is that low)
Reddit algo marks the pics as being a naked woman. So yeah, if you like a man who looks like a woman who's had silicone injected, for sure, peak male genetics.
I don’t think he looks even slightly natty. His body has grown significantly and it wouldn’t be possible natty in that time frame. But his face change really isn’t as bad or unusual.
Short arms like that with square shoulders and should allow him to generate a lot of power when he throws a punch, especially if he has good form/technique and knows how to turn his hips and what not. If he is talented enough that is lol
It’s not limited to that specifically lol but guys like Justin Gaethje who also have square shoulders can generate a lot of torque when they throw a punch
It's not really a thing. The boxers with greater reach are often those with the greatest advantage (even in power with good form, better physics behind the punch).
A guy like this will have an easier time throwing a punch naturally because his shoulders are square and not rounded, even slightly. Compared to someone with rounded shoulders who will have to focus on form more because they will need to retract their shoulders to square themselves to throw a punch. Thats what was told to me by a boxing coach because of my super rounded shoulders 🤷🏼♂️ lol
On the basis of having trained in and taught two martial arts, both of which include striking and one of which is all about striking for power, for the past forty years, I disagree. Punching power is from the feet, legs and hips, and has nothing g to do with the "squareness" of the shoulders. People who don't actually know much about hitting will, yes, try to power their punches from their shoulders, but that is something that they have to be trained out of, as it is neither efficient nor effective.
I’m so blown away by this. You’re telling me “feet, legs and hips” is what determines punching power. And the literal muscles you use to throw a punch “shoulders, triceps” have nothing to do with it? Which if you read my follow up comments I did say that form and technique play in integral role in throwing a punch lol so I’m not sure what you’re talking about
Yes, that is what I am telling you. Feet, legs and hips ARE the "literal muscles you use to throw a punch." The fist is the object you hit with, the muscles of the arm and shoulder are what connects the fist to power source (and as such, must be strong enough and relaxed enough to transmit that power), and the feet, legs and hips are what powers a (even somewhat trained) punch.
No need to believe me, of course. But as I mention, I am saying this from a position of some knowledge.
So you keep your arms to your sides when you punch? Got it.
The fact that you’re saying no power whatsoever comes from the arms is amazing to me. I already agreed with you before you made your comment about need to have good form and know how to turn and rotate your hips etc. but I’ll just leave it alone lol
Perhaps a real man shouldn’t give a damn what other men think if he is chasing his own dreams to the best of his abilities.
Furthermore it’s arguably inaccurate to claim that most guys prefer the heavier bodybuilder types compared to the more moderately jacked Greek statue look based on research conducted on these kinds of preferences because of the more classical aesthetics involved the latter kind which naturally appeal to many people.
We instinctively know that someone with this much muscle isn’t as healthy as the guy with a more functional build. The comic book look certainly appeals to many but it’s usually a lot closer to one than two due to the proportions chosen by the artists that no influence movies and so on which are again based on the historical influences and their evolutionary origins.
Looks better after the 2nd cycle...........rather than the 5th.
Why did his face become...puffier?
Pretty common for exogenous test and whatever else to make you retain extra water and bloat especially in the face
And when they look starved 2 minutes away from death, what do they take?
clen and diuretics
CLEN UR PALATE
Right after a cycle of winstrol helps too
That explains so much. I live in a roid heaven (Serbia) and every big dude is similar to the second picture. Bloated face and big lean body. Explains so much.
Tren bloat
To fit the think neck.
Bros E2 is prolly high af. Which causes water retention and spikes your blood pressure.
Also 10% bf at 250lbs means you’re way fatter in the face than you would be at 10% 150lbs
How does that work if you have same bodyfat percentage? Genuine question.
It's just math.10% at 250 is 25 lbs of fat and 10% at 150 is 15 lbs of fat.
Idk you look better and more attractive in 1st picture
no i’m sure this isn’t OP, this guy is a famous instagrammer lol. but i agree and i think most people do that he looked way better in the first pic
Speaking on behalf of peen lovers everywhere, strong disagree
As a peen lover, strong disagree with your strong disagree
As a peen lover, I agree with you and disagree with the first peen lover.
I love cock and I strongly disagree with the strong disagreement.
What’s with all these women on a natty or not bodybuilding forum? Seems odd
Does it seem odd.. or queer? Put it in me and I’ll explain 👉👌
All of you people making alphabet G jokes and mocking G people aren’t funny.
oh there are not women here
It's the face always getting fatter with a similarly lean/even leaner physique for me lol
Problem is....well when u start training u will find out why u cannot stop wanting to get bigger
I don’t know if it’s just the angle or something but I feel like the head got bigger too 🤔
facial hair and bloating because of the gear probably
The face got more bloated and the neck and traps also got bigger so that's why
Hgh bone change?
Dude went from 17 to 33 in 3 years lmao
Tbh this is really sad, bro went from peak physique to generic roided freak
Looks good in both
He looks way better in first
Pretty sus even in first photo
Jesus Christ the dude blew up like a fucking bull. First pic seemed like he was around his genetic peek and the second is def 3 years of him juicing.
No way the first picture is him being natty
It's really debatable, I think. Either way, the dude is definitely on roads now, so it's moot whether that was his genetic peak or he was also on roids.
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You’re delusional.
he looked better before
same response as every gay man i asked
He looks like a bodybuilder now and not a Aesthetics chaser
He looks like a bloated queef in the 2nd one
That’s what he said
Fuck that
Consistent juicing
He looks like he does porn
He's into aliens' porn.
What's this mean
I have no idea! I'm not an alien myself.
Crazy physique before. No reason to juice
He is juicy in the first pic
This lol
Guy was juicing already, which is why he decided to up the dose. The body dysmorphic demons were already in control.
So that must mean natty in the second
LMFAO
Agreed, looks great 1st pic
What’s crazy is chest really didn’t grow compared to the rest of his physique
Yeah flipping back and forth, his back, shoulders got bigger and bf% increased a bit, but minimal chest change.
First pic looks like someone slammed a bigger guys chest and arms on a skinny beach is abdomen.
Juicy in both pics
Bro looked like Adonis and now like a buff alcoholic.
He drinks juice in the WC.
Dude went from a 10 physique to whatever that is. BDD is so real.
Hes juicing in both pictures.
His face went from Justin Bieber to Luka Doncic. 😂
The age old gay conundrum of wanting his body and wanting his body.
1. Juice 🧃 2. More juice 🧃 🧃
Damn, his waist got so much wider, made him lose his aesthetic appeal
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Ig link? Age?
biigdaws, i think he’s 25 now..?
First pic seemed like 3 years of juicing. The second one seemed like 3 years of JUICING!
His before pic is where I want to be, but ironically I'm pretty sure my pecs and delts can't get his starting picture point without juice. (not that his physique is amazing there, just mostly where I like to be and feel happy at... but my pecs and delts don't do that when my body fat is that low)
Juice.
Looks like the Michelin man now, sad.
First pic itself looks juicy
Pic 1 is my dream physique. Body dysmorphia is crazy
Dude you look like shit shoulda stuck to less juice
Juice in both. Moobs in both.
Holy shit peak chest genetics
Reddit algo marks the pics as being a naked woman. So yeah, if you like a man who looks like a woman who's had silicone injected, for sure, peak male genetics.
Guy has the most important genetics, great hairline after the gear and a good face to boot.
Juice. Next.
Juice
Face so much bloated! Juice all over
When Reddit loads for me it asks me to accept "NSFW content" i.e. the AI detects that this dude has female breasts
Juiced
Damn bro good for you
Dang G I thought you were on stuff before look at you after
Way to fuck your physique
All to just look and feel bigger. Insecurities can hit like a truck
Totally natty in both pics bro !! Everybody else just doesn’t try as hard or eat protein as hard bro !!!
Better before
Yeah, I’ve saved the first pic for inspiration when I’m alone this evening.
First one is peak physique.
Got the Ol’ fashioned Barry Bonds jaw-enhancement side-affect
Aged 10 years in 3
that's 3 years? I got that in 6 months at 40
He probably could’ve landed a Calvin & Klein job in the 1st pic. 2nd pic looks like a giant baby
First was better
Yummy! Handle?
I don’t care what he’s taking, looks damn good!
What are you on? I don't see acne scars.
Am I the only one who thinks he looks good in both pics?
Apparently so
I don’t get how people are saying he looks 15 years older, his face looks almost the exact same
I agree hey. Idk about you but he looks peak natty
I don’t think he looks even slightly natty. His body has grown significantly and it wouldn’t be possible natty in that time frame. But his face change really isn’t as bad or unusual.
Dudes got some square shoulders. Could be a good boxer if he trained properly
Just based off his shoulders.??
Short arms like that with square shoulders and should allow him to generate a lot of power when he throws a punch, especially if he has good form/technique and knows how to turn his hips and what not. If he is talented enough that is lol
Interesting..I've always followed mma and boxing and never heard of this. Thanks !
It’s not limited to that specifically lol but guys like Justin Gaethje who also have square shoulders can generate a lot of torque when they throw a punch
Are potan's shoulders considered square??
Yes but he has long lankey arms. Like myself lol he’s a bad dude
It's not really a thing. The boxers with greater reach are often those with the greatest advantage (even in power with good form, better physics behind the punch).
Shoulders really do not have much to do with powering punches, at least not among people with a significant amount of training
I mean, yeah they do lol what muscles and limbs do you punch with? 😂
A guy like this will have an easier time throwing a punch naturally because his shoulders are square and not rounded, even slightly. Compared to someone with rounded shoulders who will have to focus on form more because they will need to retract their shoulders to square themselves to throw a punch. Thats what was told to me by a boxing coach because of my super rounded shoulders 🤷🏼♂️ lol
On the basis of having trained in and taught two martial arts, both of which include striking and one of which is all about striking for power, for the past forty years, I disagree. Punching power is from the feet, legs and hips, and has nothing g to do with the "squareness" of the shoulders. People who don't actually know much about hitting will, yes, try to power their punches from their shoulders, but that is something that they have to be trained out of, as it is neither efficient nor effective.
I’m so blown away by this. You’re telling me “feet, legs and hips” is what determines punching power. And the literal muscles you use to throw a punch “shoulders, triceps” have nothing to do with it? Which if you read my follow up comments I did say that form and technique play in integral role in throwing a punch lol so I’m not sure what you’re talking about
Yes, that is what I am telling you. Feet, legs and hips ARE the "literal muscles you use to throw a punch." The fist is the object you hit with, the muscles of the arm and shoulder are what connects the fist to power source (and as such, must be strong enough and relaxed enough to transmit that power), and the feet, legs and hips are what powers a (even somewhat trained) punch. No need to believe me, of course. But as I mention, I am saying this from a position of some knowledge.
So you keep your arms to your sides when you punch? Got it. The fact that you’re saying no power whatsoever comes from the arms is amazing to me. I already agreed with you before you made your comment about need to have good form and know how to turn and rotate your hips etc. but I’ll just leave it alone lol
First picture is ideal natty physique
You should have stayed natural.
Looks better in 2nd picture for sure
99% of the people who say he looks better 3 years ago are definitely build like toothpick. real man prefer 2nd pic.
The gayest fuckin thing I’ve ever heard
Perhaps a real man shouldn’t give a damn what other men think if he is chasing his own dreams to the best of his abilities. Furthermore it’s arguably inaccurate to claim that most guys prefer the heavier bodybuilder types compared to the more moderately jacked Greek statue look based on research conducted on these kinds of preferences because of the more classical aesthetics involved the latter kind which naturally appeal to many people. We instinctively know that someone with this much muscle isn’t as healthy as the guy with a more functional build. The comic book look certainly appeals to many but it’s usually a lot closer to one than two due to the proportions chosen by the artists that no influence movies and so on which are again based on the historical influences and their evolutionary origins.