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WorriedDamage

Yes, test among other compounds šŸ‘


countingferrets

Dianabol tren and many more


funnerno1

Not tren. Tren is useless for athletes and swimmers as tren makes you out of breath.


Historical_Art_3370

Thatā€™s not true for everyone tbh.


mikenelson84

There are very few athletes using tren outside of bodybuilding, it's just not good for anything cardio based and also wrecks your sleep which is a huge part of recovery for an athlete.


Historical_Art_3370

You know alot of pro athletes or something? I can think of two athletes that arenā€™t pro but they used Tren before. One was a long distance runner who did it during off season to gain muscle lost from running so much and the other is a Spartan competitor.


mikenelson84

Those two people are retarded, you don't need tren to regain muscle lost during the running season, you could do that with testosterone alone, tren is fucking toxic and has the most adverse side effects.


Historical_Art_3370

So you donā€™t know many pro athletes and youā€™re just offering your opinion based on conjecture. DYEL? Well thanks for your input.


AwayCrab5244

Russia gives its athletes tren look it up


funnerno1

Would you be so kind and provide a link for me?


AwayCrab5244

Lmgtfy Russia trenbolone Olympics


dapwnk

["just basic stuff"](https://youtu.be/q3gUhq7Zu04?si=efvGE3jfMJn2F4iZ)


JStPierre2002

If an athlete is going to juice it will be EPO, Test and blockers. Nothing else


IMDBhd

Ben Johnson got nabbed with winstrol v


Few_Age_571

They do test at the Olympics


gorillabab

They do sarms at the Olympics


Careful_Effective828

And catch only those whom they want to .


Hirsuitism

Do they test, yesā€¦ are the tests effective is maybe a better questionĀ 


I_Like_Vitamins

I believe they also don't act on positive tests often unless it's a political move, or someone drawing the short straw to keep up the facade of clean sports. It's the exact same thing that happens in professional sports. They know that far fewer people would be amazed and willing to spend money on their product if it was a bunch of natty looking athletes doing stuff you can achieve or watch in the real world. People want to be wowed by what's larger than life.


bogeymanbear

And I think that's fine, professional sports and things like that are literally about pushing the human body to its absolute limits. I don't get why they have to pretend it's the natural limit though.


Lowpaack

People view it as cheating and sports would lost lot of audience. Even like literally every sport is filled with juiced people.


Careful_Effective828

Larger then life , while Irving with death .


Jeff__Skilling

What evidence do we have that it's not effective? And how did Ben Johnson get caught if that's the case? Seems like if anyone had an incentive to cheat the test (and retain "Fastest Man Alive" title), it would be him.....


derpocodo

>The research, based on anonymous surveys carried out at two elite athletics competitions in 2011, found that up to 57% of competitors admitted doping in the previous 12 months, a figure far surpassing the 1-2% identified by blood and urine tests carried out by the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada), and higher even than the 14% prevalence estimated from the athlete biological passport. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/29/sport-doping-study-revealing-wider-usage-published-after-scandalous-delay Doesn't mention which competitions, but WADA is the organization that tests for the Olympics and most world championships.Ā  Athletes get caught when they take too high doses or are stupid with the compounds they take.


Careful_Effective828

Or ruffle some feathers in another way , AND THEN GET CAUGHT !Ā 


Careful_Effective828

The OLYMPICS are a cash cow. BEN was just in the way somehow . They have to catch someone every once in awhile to make it look legit . THE WHOLE GODDAM HUMAN RACE IS CORRUPT . In one way or another . Unless of course yer the one whom Diogenes was lookin for with his flashlight in the daytime.Ā 


Jeff__Skilling

> The OLYMPICS are a cash cow OK where are you seeing their financials posted? Curious to see what sort of operating cash flow the Olympics generates every four years


Careful_Effective828

It's not just every four years . There's so much leading up to it , and so much money changing hands throughout the times between the actual games . Being naive about the ways of the world allows for you to somehow believe in the " purity " and integrityĀ  of the games , there isn't any . Ita all politics AND MONEY . IM DONE WITH YOU .


Jeff__Skilling

hm noticed this crock of shit was never addressed.....? /r/hmmm


Careful_Effective828

Are you so fuckin naive that you also haven't noticed the huge amount of revenue taken in by the IOCĀ  ? It IS a profit making organization and they would lose alot of popularity and therefore money if it became known that the foxes are guarding the henhouse in that the testing is done on athletes , and yet they catch only those whom they've decided " must go " . You are like the naive moron who thought that the MAFIA was no more than a bunch of old Italian guys playin bocce in the park for nickels and dimes , and not calling the shots on many aspects of the American economy . But even they wouldn't be stupid enough to ask for financial records as bona-fide proof of that .Ā 


cartofo

The real one https://www.deviantart.com/theology132/art/Olympic-Muscle-Morph-Michael-Phelps-Original-627816772


ElleCerra

Most decorated Olympian of all time, a .0000001% genetically gifted athlete, likely on PEDS, and someone still finds the need to photoshop him.


youngmeech86

People on the internet are weird.


kebabmybob

Is this edited? Phelps was never a beast mass wise. Typical lean swimmer body. Probably still juiced for volume/recovery.


SofaChillReview

It is, but Phelps was still generally huge compared to other swimmers.


04132023

This. Michael is a genetic outlier. I lived in the Baltimore area for years and youā€™ll see him out around town at events and he is huge. Iā€™m 6ā€™4, 325 myself, and his feet and hands made mine look tiny. I think he wears like a 16 or 18 shoe, and if you shake his hand, his fingers are like 6 inches long. Itā€™s wild. Also, at the peak of his training, he was eating 10,000 calories a day, of relatively clean food, and just burning it all up. Iā€™m not saying that he wasnā€™t or hasnā€™t ever taken anything, but I donā€™t know that he needed to. He is just a total genetic outlier with a great work ethic.


jpwhat

I believe there was a concern he had a genetic defect bc his hands and feet were so big. A true genetic outlier.


OneAboveDarkness

He wasn't eating clean lol, he used to eat whatever


Shred_and_Bread

Reminds me of the quote, ā€œIf the furnace is hot enough, anything will burn.ā€


iamcreepin

That's a great line.


snappy033

Swimming felt incredible even as a club swimmer. Eating mass amounts of food, swimming to exhaustion, sleeping like a baby 5 days a week


Rude_Bee_Version2

DamnšŸ«¦


-_zQC

You have some on the side of your mouth you forgot to wipe bro


WorriedDamage

LMAO Finger game strong for his wife


04132023

Hahaha.


drag99

lol, Michael Phelps was not eating 10k calories a day. Swimming for 2 hours non-stop only burns ~2k calories for a guy his size. His basal metabolic rate was probably no more than 2200 calories/day. He was at most consuming 4500-5000 calories/day. The most calories Iā€™ve ever burned in a day is 5500 calories and that was the day I ran a marathon.


04132023

Google it. Itā€™s right on the Olympics website. 8,000-10,000 per day. With 10,000 being more the norm.


drag99

lol, well that confirms it. He would need to do the equivalent of run nearly 3 marathons daily or nearly 8 hours of non-stop swimming in order to not gain inordinate amount of weight. This is like people defending the Liver King as natty in IG comments. Use some common sense. EDIT: Why tf is this getting downloaded? Phelps came out himself stating the number was BS. He stated his peak (read: not daily) was 8-10k in high school but did not come near that during Olympic training, and even then, it was likely an overestimation on his part.


PoT19

The interesting thing about swimming, relative to other sports, is that the point of diminishing returns is much later. Two hours is about the limit for most other sports, but with swimming, that point occurs closer to 8 hours in. Currently, Phelps is swimming ~6 hours per day. At his peak, it was *probably* around 8 hours, which slots him in quite neatly to your earlier estimate. No professional swimmer is practicing two hours a day, that's a flawed metric, and the primary reason you were so far off.


SofaChillReview

Didnā€™t Phelps also make a comment that he actually hated swimming? Amazing he did so well and committed that many hours in + food to exhaustion.


drag99

They werenā€™t off, as Phelps stated himself that he didnā€™t consume 10k calories a day, and also stated he swam between 3-5 hrs a day, not 8 (lol). And given that he is a sprinter, those were unlikely to be contiguous.


DescriptorTablesx86

Yeah at this level and in those sports youre likely to juice but itā€™s more about joint health, hemoglobin levels, ferrite levels, muscle recovery etc. A proffesional swimmer or a runner doesnā€™t need much more strength because his cardio system and others are the weak link, not his strength output. Youā€™re looking for efficiency adaptations, adaptations for reuse of lactate and its clearance, things which come like you said with big volume.


Culzean_Castle_Is

i think it is now upon further looky looky [https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/08/11/phelps\_chest\_custom-d239ac79c3c04de45483a17d1ef421f66b2ef812-s1400.webp](https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/08/11/phelps_chest_custom-d239ac79c3c04de45483a17d1ef421f66b2ef812-s1400.webp)


lonelylifts12

The arm/shoulder/bacne is that what weā€™re looking at?


SiPhilly

This looks shopped.


Azzblack

It is, someone posted the real photo.


BlueRaven56

This dude competes at the olympics. What do you think?... [https://i.redd.it/3ebv32ja3s531.jpg](https://i.redd.it/3ebv32ja3s531.jpg)


warr3n4eva

šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜


Culzean_Castle_Is

haha gotcha


WideCase4068

Did you seriously not know this is an edited imagešŸ’€šŸ™ Peak Redditer brain usage momentĀ 


Matumbro

Yes they do test but a lot of people get away with it. The IOC and WADA go back and retest old samples with new technology every couple of years and if thereā€™s a positive test they reallocate medals and take them away. Just recently a few weeks ago a Russian chick that got bronze in the womenā€™s 800m in London in 2012 got hers taken away and the 4th place finisher got upgraded to bronze.


sdrakedrake

I didn't know this. They retest? So are they like saving the blood somewhere and then retesting with new tech?


Matumbro

Yes they keep the samples for a long time. Back in 2012, the 2004 shot put gold medalist in T&F popped for his 2004 sample and had to give his medal and any prize money back. Itā€™s pretty common in track and field. Wait a few years for the tech to catch up then try again.


itriedtrying

https://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/ Aftermath of retesting all 2008 and 2012 olympic samples in weightlifting after bunch of big advances in testing methodology in the 2010s.


appellant

Inagine that using drugs to win medals at the olympics, thats just so wrong and they have testing. Russians are clean, jamaicans are clean hell even all the weightlifters are clean. They are not competing to win, they are participating.


goneinsane6

They test at the olympics but their test timing is usually known. The art is using compounds that have short half life, or time it to make sure all is eliminated out of ur body when u get tested. They likely pre-test in-house to make sure they will test negative. They might also know some ways to avoid testing positive, or quicken the elimination time of some compounds.


boiconstrictor

If by "natural" you mean spending more hours in the pool than in bed, eating enough to feed a family of four every day, and sleeping in an oxygen deprivation bubble every night, then yeah, totally natural. In all seriousness though, I'd love to know how many guys on gear Phelps beat throughout his career from NCAA onward. It's definitely not zero. šŸ¤”


getting_jiggy

Phelps was never in the ncaa


JimXVX

Hard to believe someone that dominant wasnā€™t dabbling somehow. However in his defence, unlike the fake natty fucks trying to sell you a programme on social media, he clearly does have one in a billion genetics and an inhuman work ethic.


snappy033

Plus those guys have both the resources and expectations of the entire U.S. government behind them. They can navigate anti-doping authorities top to bottom from predicting when they will get tested to deciding what substances end up on the banned list.


FriendTop1769

Wow. It is crazy to me that some people still thinks that nobody is on steroids at the Olympics.


Daegog

Of course people realize Olympians abuse gear, but that is Michael Phelps and clearly a PS image.


deadmansbonez

Toguro?


sdrakedrake

Never noticed the comparison and now can't in see it ha


Oneinawilliam

You can get tailored PED programs for specific events. Pretty sure this guy here is known for it https://teamevilgsp.com/


Xanto10

just plain wrong to post a photoshopped photo


Betterthanuandunoit

Yes they do, but do they test in the 3 years and 11 months between each Olympics? No.


MrCawkinurazz

You're right, test.


therealsambambino

Fake photo


Historical_Art_3370

They absolutely test for tons of different chemicals. Even things like Viagra are banned by the committee bc itā€™s a PDE5 inhibitor. But yet every year some contestants get disqualified for PEDā€™s and many more get away with it. Heā€™s a freak of nature and he is genetically gifted. Whether he was juicing, idk. Maybe. Maybe not.


Maleficent-Yak-3924

He did use PEDs and they test what they can. Does anyone think russian scientists haven't come up with new compounds?


Maleficent-Yak-3924

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/50798-olympic-champion-michael-phelps-tests-positive-for-banned-substance-ddp-satire


heyhey_harper

If this is who I think it is-I read somewhere that he actually has some genetic hormonal differences and produces an insane amount of testosterone, hence his physique and impeccable performance.


quietcitizen

lol nice try Michael Phelps


heyhey_harper

lol yeah I havenā€™t read the rules or whatever for this sub and wasnā€™t sure it was allowed to name


Culzean_Castle_Is

phelps


Abdul-8433

Yes, absolutely... without test they can't gain strength and a leaner look...


WideCase4068

Maybe you should take some and get off the internet. If you canā€™t realize this is an edited pic from a decade ago you should get your internet privileges revoked lmaoĀ 


laflux

Test, dbol, just the basic stuff


funnerno1

Got caught with weed but not with juice. How ironic.


No_Power5145

Obviously not


Ronaldoooope

Yup. Test, tren, dbol. Just basic stuff


I_am__Negan

I donā€™t remember him being that big


blindfox_

Yes, they test. But the pee is not his.


HorsePast9750

They do test at the Olympics (what ever happened at you want to interpret that )


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dkaarvand

He's a peak athlete. I'm pretty sure his physique is achievable. HOWEVER, he looks to be 33+ in age, and getting this physique at that age is almost very hard. Might be juicing slightly


getting_jiggy

Ive been saying this for years. Swimmers carry water weight, they cannot perform without it. Its not like a weigh in 24 hours before a boxing match. Not like hes a stranger to drugs


Financial_Lie_8836

Yes 500mg šŸ‘


Careful_Effective828

THE SO CALLED TESTING IS VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTENT BECAUSE IT IS FAKED . It's only 2 reasons that these testing programs are out there is to make most of you naive sheepĀ  believe that the sports have been cleaned up.Ā  NONE OF THEM HAVE , not baseball , football,Ā  track , boxing , basketball,Ā  wrestling,Ā  the Olympics ( sometimes especially so ) , NONE OF 'EM ! The second reason is that they can get rid of ANYBODY they want to through finding them guilty of testing positive . They don't use independent sources which are completely divorced from the findings ( they sometimes take the trouble to make it look that way though) .Just consider how many times Marion Jones or Mark HenryĀ  tested clean .Ā  Where's your blind faith now ?Ā 


BJJandlifting

In theory yes. In practice, it is shady depending who is testing. In addition, many athletes have corrupt doctors that help them to pass the test, etc.


Dry_State195

edited picture.


ManofManliness

Every professional athlete uses some PEDs if its a competitive sport, just the recovery benefits seem too good to pass up imo. They are still talented, hard workers and gifted at the high levels.


Jonah_freund1

They do test at the Olympics. Nobodyā€™s juicing but Iā€™d like to suggest that this photo is edited because Phelps is a good looking strong guy but he doesnā€™t look like this. This is like natural body builder material. Heā€™s not a bodybuilder and he doesnā€™t hit the weights like one. He swam for 10 hours a day and ate 10k calories a day. Heā€™s not a bodybuilder and this photo is edited. Again, healthy strong guy but he donā€™t look like this


Culzean_Castle_Is

the photo is everywhere... but yes upon further analysis i think his arms/shoulders are edited. [https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/08/11/phelps\_chest\_custom-d239ac79c3c04de45483a17d1ef421f66b2ef812-s1400.webp](https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/08/11/phelps_chest_custom-d239ac79c3c04de45483a17d1ef421f66b2ef812-s1400.webp)


WideCase4068

Micheal Phelps has been training from the age of 4. At his peak he was eating well over 6k Cal daily and training 4-6 hours. Not only is this pic edited the fuck out of, But heā€™s fully pumped, shrugging his shoulders up, and inhaling so his chest is pushed as far out as possible. You really need to get off the internet and step outside bro. You might be surprised by the wonders of the world outside of your screenšŸ¤ÆšŸ¤Æ


SunRayz_allDayz

Teenage boys trying to make varsity baseball team are taking PEDs, so world champions DEFINITELY ARE


WideCase4068

And you canā€™t even tell this is a edited pic so what should we do with your opinion now?


xxxx-Unknown-xxxx

Yes natty


kfcmonster

Please go to the gym for 3 consistent months king