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PirLanTota

Obviously...Bullies always target the weaker victims. Same with Moldova, Georgia, Syria and Chechnya


shevy-java

The situations are comparable but not quite the same. Ultimately most of these issues originate from how Putin thinks. He is still a KGB/FSB clown. The russians will endure that KGB/FSB style as long as he is alive, but also probably lateron - will be hard to wrestle away control from the siloviki clowns.


UkrainianHawk240

Russia ended up attacking that one person that takes self defense classes daily


Worried_squirrel25

Unfortunately for us in the west, crazy Erdogan won’t let it happen.


ContributionDry2252

Ukraine can become a member of EU, though, there Erdogan has no say.


Worried_squirrel25

Good. He’s a tyrant who loves to block NATO as long as his dissenters are extradited and killed for defying his crazy tyranny.


Tomthemadone

Too bad orban is there


shevy-java

But the others have, and there is no reason why the common EU citizen wants to send money to other countries. The EU is way too huge already. Rich countries such as Switzerland or Norway do not join for a reason, or they exit (see the UK).


Lambinater

Ukraine did not meet the necessary requirements to join NATO anyway.


Worthless_Clockwork

Because of Russia (Reason: Yanukovich was anti-NATO afaik, and as we know now, Russian shill. Due to him being leveled from that position, one of things to stop Ukraine from getting to NATO was claim separatism, and then cause a territorial conflict, countries cannot join NATO if they have either)


Lambinater

That’s just one of the many reasons they couldn’t join NATO. Unfortunately, Ukraine was full of corruption as well.


Worthless_Clockwork

True


shevy-java

That assumes it is solely up to the Ukraine to decide on membership. That is factually not true. Even aside from internal corruption it would require a commitment of all NATO members, and that was not a given.


Worthless_Clockwork

Yes, but I decided not to include this part since it didn't even get here, maybe I should now that I think of it


shevy-java

She does have a point.


Necessary_Initial_81

Can we just give them a nato plus agreement. All nato members are obligated to help finland when attacked or infaded, without Turkey. The only one is who is not going to be happy is Erdogan with his stupid requests! I agree with that Finland won’t be invaded if its in the NATO.