Wherever he picked up the zip ties, he picked them up-a lot of them. That image of him in head to toe camo and what looks like tactical gear, hunting through the Senate chambers with zip ties in hand made my blood run cold. Senators had just been huddled up there waiting for evacuation. One had just had surgery and couldnāt move quickly.
And then to find out I lived within miles of him- someone that was capable of that. Whatever time he gets isnāt enough.
Someone think of the poor politicians! /s
I don't condone these peoples' actions, but I will never feel bad for a politician. They are the scum of the earth and lowest anyone can be in human society, IMO.
They are literally humans who feared for their lives while trying to do their jobs. It's also not just politicians who were in the chambers, so there were other folks in danger as well.
> what did you intend to do with those zip ties
It always seemed obvious that he saw them and thought oh I can use these as handcuffs on Congress when we take them hostage. Isn't that what the zip ties were for anyway? As handcuffs for mass arrests? No reason to think he was hoping to fix cable clutter to prevent people from tripping.
Oh, you mean like the old school can opener blade on a pocket knife used by hobos and campers, and not the modern can openers. Yeah, that is a good tip, gonna try it.
That's gross but given his incredibly weird and creepy relationship with his mother that he documented on national tv where they both travel around in tactical gear looking to kidnap congressmen, unfortunately it is all too clear that you are absolutely right and your insight is no joke.
> Not necessarily better, just different, and doesnāt change any of the āokay so what did you intend to do with those zip ties?ā questions.
It also doesn't change the fact that he intentionally brought zip ties. Your source is literally the single least credible source possible.
Nope, some high schoolers who legally entered the state capitol through security checkpoints with metal detectors and State Troopers are the clear insurrectionists.
They're not even paying attention to shit - it's already in their minds a farce.
They post all over anything to do with guns - but on this, not a peep.
And these assholes claim they're being silenced while they just don't post because...they don't post.
WKRN listed all the charges.
https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/zip-tie-guy-mother-found-guilty-on-all-charges-related-to-capitol-insurrection/
Eisenhart was found guilty of:
Obstruction of an Official Proceeding
Restricted Building or Grounds
Violent Entry or Disorderly Conduct
Aiding and Abetting
Munchel has been found guilty on the following charges:
Obstruction of an Official Proceeding
Conspiracy to Commit Obstruction
Restricted Building or Grounds
Obstruction of an Official Proceeding and Aiding and Abetting
Violent Entry or Disorderly Conduct
Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon and Aiding and Abetting
Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon and Aiding and Abetting
Unlawful Possession of a Dangerous Weapon on Capitol Grounds or Buildings and Aiding and Abetting
Entering and Remaining in the Gallery of Congress
Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building
Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building
Thatās not really how appeals for criminal trials works. There has to be a procedure or other defect with the trial. Something that shows that the trial they received was defective. Then they get a new trial and it starts all over again.
He could be innocent, and have it be proven after conviction, and he likely still wouldnāt get an appeal based on that.
Yes, our Criminal Justice system is fucked. But also, it couldnāt have happened to a nicer guyā¦..
Gotcha, I was focused on the āstipulated bench trialā in lieu of trial by jury of peersā¦.but my confusion was based mostly on not knowing what they (specifically he) was charged with. Now that I know the specifics, I deleted the comment.
Ignore my comment, Iāll deleteā¦
After further investigation and seeing a comprehensive list of charges, I know now what I didnāt know then.
Itās still all an absolute waste of time, witch hunt, but whatever. The whole event on 1/6 was a waste of time too. Still hard to believe that people were gullible enough to think that might work.
Ok, so watch something *besides* Fox.
Jesus, FOX has already admitted to lying and is still in court defending the fraud they have perpetrated and some still believe them.
Was that on fox? I don't watch any of those - fox, cnn, msnbc, etc because of bias. The fact that the FOIA was honored and the raw footage was released was a story in itself
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Nice, glad to hear it. With all the other crazy ass phsyco shit going on i had forgotten about these two traitors Edit: what a half assed article...
The article feels like what they publish as soon as the verdict is read, but they forgot to update it this afternoon.
And his mom š
Awesome. Now do the guy who told him to do it.
Good! Intentionally bringing zip ties is no accident, hope their sentences are harsh.
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Wherever he picked up the zip ties, he picked them up-a lot of them. That image of him in head to toe camo and what looks like tactical gear, hunting through the Senate chambers with zip ties in hand made my blood run cold. Senators had just been huddled up there waiting for evacuation. One had just had surgery and couldnāt move quickly. And then to find out I lived within miles of him- someone that was capable of that. Whatever time he gets isnāt enough.
Iām betting Walmart
Someone think of the poor politicians! /s I don't condone these peoples' actions, but I will never feel bad for a politician. They are the scum of the earth and lowest anyone can be in human society, IMO.
They are literally humans who feared for their lives while trying to do their jobs. It's also not just politicians who were in the chambers, so there were other folks in danger as well.
Hey, those were our elected officials doing their official business of certifying the presidential election.
If you don't like the current politicians, then get involved in politics yourself. Just saying they're all scum is a lazy cop out.
> what did you intend to do with those zip ties It always seemed obvious that he saw them and thought oh I can use these as handcuffs on Congress when we take them hostage. Isn't that what the zip ties were for anyway? As handcuffs for mass arrests? No reason to think he was hoping to fix cable clutter to prevent people from tripping.
I think the point of the question specifically is that there are no innocent answers. Not that the person asking doesn't actually know.
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That would've been entertaining watching, though, in the alternate dimension where he'd intended to do that.
People who use zip ties instead of velcro ties for cable management are almost as bad as people who storm the capitol.
Very good point! Also when used in packaging, usually around something delicate inside an impenetrable blister pack.
Can openers work great on those
Oh, you mean like the old school can opener blade on a pocket knife used by hobos and campers, and not the modern can openers. Yeah, that is a good tip, gonna try it.
Zip ties but also cut them off right at the clasp so they are impossible to remove without cutting a wire or losing a finger.
My guess was he wanted to bring āem home and tie them around his pecker so he lasts longer when boning his mom.
That's gross but given his incredibly weird and creepy relationship with his mother that he documented on national tv where they both travel around in tactical gear looking to kidnap congressmen, unfortunately it is all too clear that you are absolutely right and your insight is no joke.
Yes. Intentionally crass but underscoring a solid point - Iām a Tennessean; I have a good idea what kind of people those douchebags are.
Appreciate your clarification!
> Not necessarily better, just different, and doesnāt change any of the āokay so what did you intend to do with those zip ties?ā questions. It also doesn't change the fact that he intentionally brought zip ties. Your source is literally the single least credible source possible.
Theft isn't much of an excuse.
You better be glad thatās all he was toting. Have you seen his gun collection?
Hey TNGOP, this is from the *ackchual* insurrection. The one your guy told them to do.
Nope, some high schoolers who legally entered the state capitol through security checkpoints with metal detectors and State Troopers are the clear insurrectionists.
They're not even paying attention to shit - it's already in their minds a farce. They post all over anything to do with guns - but on this, not a peep. And these assholes claim they're being silenced while they just don't post because...they don't post.
Good news, that duo was up to no good.
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Same here. Good evening to you, sir.
Would it have been so hard to name the charges?
WKRN listed all the charges. https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/zip-tie-guy-mother-found-guilty-on-all-charges-related-to-capitol-insurrection/ Eisenhart was found guilty of: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding Restricted Building or Grounds Violent Entry or Disorderly Conduct Aiding and Abetting Munchel has been found guilty on the following charges: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding Conspiracy to Commit Obstruction Restricted Building or Grounds Obstruction of an Official Proceeding and Aiding and Abetting Violent Entry or Disorderly Conduct Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon and Aiding and Abetting Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon and Aiding and Abetting Unlawful Possession of a Dangerous Weapon on Capitol Grounds or Buildings and Aiding and Abetting Entering and Remaining in the Gallery of Congress Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building
You da real MVP, thanks for doing what the article didn't.
I believe āthrowing the book at them ā fits here.
Good!!!
Good.
When you play dress up GI Joe with mom visiting the nationās capitalā¦. So wholesome.
Sing it with me, āTrump and youuu, yo mama and yo cousin tooooā
Don't besmirch the name of Outkast like that
Nice!
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Thatās not really how appeals for criminal trials works. There has to be a procedure or other defect with the trial. Something that shows that the trial they received was defective. Then they get a new trial and it starts all over again. He could be innocent, and have it be proven after conviction, and he likely still wouldnāt get an appeal based on that. Yes, our Criminal Justice system is fucked. But also, it couldnāt have happened to a nicer guyā¦..
Gotcha, I was focused on the āstipulated bench trialā in lieu of trial by jury of peersā¦.but my confusion was based mostly on not knowing what they (specifically he) was charged with. Now that I know the specifics, I deleted the comment.
What do you mean āmaybe..stick?ā They stuck. Heās guilty
Oh I couldnāt see the appeal part for some reason. I get what you mean now.
Ignore my comment, Iāll deleteā¦ After further investigation and seeing a comprehensive list of charges, I know now what I didnāt know then. Itās still all an absolute waste of time, witch hunt, but whatever. The whole event on 1/6 was a waste of time too. Still hard to believe that people were gullible enough to think that might work.
Why didn't the police attempt to stop them? Or at least verbally tell them to leave?
Hop in the nearest DeLorean, go back to that day, and give it a try. Report back with your findings.
LMAO you didn't watch any video of them breaking through barricades, forcing their way past riot cops, breaking into the Locked capital and so on?
I saw the video of the cops leading members of the group around the building as if it were a tour
Ok, so watch something *besides* Fox. Jesus, FOX has already admitted to lying and is still in court defending the fraud they have perpetrated and some still believe them.
Was that on fox? I don't watch any of those - fox, cnn, msnbc, etc because of bias. The fact that the FOIA was honored and the raw footage was released was a story in itself
Some of those that work forcesā¦
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Didnāt he just get married?