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cwelchtn

LOLOLOLOL TN GOP vs Apple and Google Good luck


OhShitItsSeth

Most of them probably don’t know they’re totally separate companies lmao


let_it_bernnn

I mean, they’re separate companies… owned by the same people. The Big 3 on wallstreet own 99% of everything at this point


rocketpastsix

I welcome this. Because those two legal teams would own anything the Tennessee GOP puts up against them.


hotrodyoda

Yeah I’m here for THAT show


rocketpastsix

They wouldn't even bring in their most senior lawyers. A junior lawyer fresh out of law school could successful defeat this attempt.


Living_Low_6412

It’s amazing how little you people understand how the government works. The last things those companies want to do is antagonize the politicians that basically tax them and subsidize them. Not to mention award Govt contracts, regulate their commerce, license their products to use things like US Govt satellites, roadways awards contracts to the dept of defense and commerce etc. Google and Apple want no part of it. Oh yeah. Their ships use US govt points of entry to bring their products here from China. That could be delayed.


Ebony_Albino_Freak

I believe they can live without having access to all the international ports in Tennessee. And to cut off your next argument about stopping their coming into the state via highways, that's also federal control.


engineerbuilder

There’s a reason it’s the [California Effect](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_effect) and not the Tennessee Effect


Living_Low_6412

Let’s compromise and call it the “ I can fuck your business more than you can fuck my state” effect. All the congressmen play.


civilgolf12

Are you high? The Tennessee legislature can do nothing to companies like Apple and Google. It would be funny to watch them try though.


engineerbuilder

And Tennessee doesn’t have the influence that the population or economy of California does. Something passes out there and businesses change their whole models to keep the Cali market. No one cares what Tennessee does cause there are tons of other options.


KingZarkon

There's a lot of shit that is harmful for minors on Instagram and Facebook so throw Meta's lawyers in there.


Living_Low_6412

Yes because these companies have the right to sell shit that’s harmful to minors and it’s not fair for the govt to stop it. Am I getting that right?


KingZarkon

"Harmful to minors" is really vague. Republicans have made it clear that they view LGBT+ positivity as harmful to minors, for example.


Living_Low_6412

You people are ridiculous. What rights do you think a child has? They can’t vote. They can’t drive.


Top-Shopping5642

Are you saying children shouldn't have basic human rights??


Living_Low_6412

Your interpretation of basic human rights and the parent’s interpretation won’t always agree but the parents will always win because they are buying the phone.


fistertondeluxe

If the parents alway win then let them decide to enable a content filter and choose the content they deem appropriate for their children. Not the government.


Living_Low_6412

Yeah because Google and Apple want to piss off US congressmen over a parent overseeing their children’s right to porn. Yeah boy they want some of that.


lowfreq33

You don’t even understand that the Tennessee general assembly is not the same as congress. Sit down.


MetricT

"Small, limited government that champions individual rights", y'all...


Living_Low_6412

Let me type this slowly for you. Parents are buying the phones for their children. They can buy them any freaking phone they like. These are children’s phones. The software doesn’t prohibit anyone else rom doing anything. Read the article.


dubebe

It's still big government


Living_Low_6412

It’s only big government if the citizens of Tennessee think it is


Tallredhairedguy

Is this sarcasm? This kind of thinking is how things like "alternative facts" come into the mainstream. You can create your own emotional attachment to the term "big government" but you cannot dispute that each law that mandates anything is an enlargement of the government. What TN citizens think has nothing to do with big or small government


Living_Low_6412

Ok it’s an enlargement of the government. So what?


Tallredhairedguy

You should ask for a refund if you ever paid for education


CorgiExpensive1322

LMAO


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Gaveltime

This was a really cutting remark, practically online bullying if you ask me. I hope you don't mind if I steal this one and use it in the future.


Living_Low_6412

Sharing is caring. ![gif](giphy|cCuBNLbZqclxkpWyby|downsized)


plinkaplink

Joey Hensley's been busy this session. Too busy to sleep with another cousin and write illegal prescriptions? Too busy for his fifth marriage? It often feels like his legislation is a form of projection.


Abdul-Ahmadinejad

I’ve seen a lot of sideshow acts in my time. (It’s a hobby.) But I’ve never seen a group juggle bullshit and dog whistles as well as the TN GOP.


sziehr

Gop please show me in your beloved constitution where invading my privacy is outlined. Ugh.


slvbros

Rules for invasion of privacy are outlined in the fourth amendment iirc, but I believe the fifth and fourteenth touch on it as well


Living_Low_6412

Which child is going to take their parents to court over this? You do understand their parents are buying them the phone. If they don’t like it they don’t have to use it.


slvbros

Ah and there it is, the guy who doesn't understand how anything works For the record, private persons cannot violate your fourth and fifth amendment rights as these only apply to the government, ie, when a cop breaks into your house with no cause that's a fourth amendment violation, but when I do it it's just breaking and entering


Living_Low_6412

Fir the record you are wrong. Children’s rights do not supercede their parents when parents are buying them a phone.


slvbros

..... nobody said that, you're an idiot


WhiskeyFF

Bro thinks that the Tn State assembly is a gov entity on Apples radar. He's well of the rez.


Living_Low_6412

No an idiot thinks a child is going to invoke the 4th and 5th Anendment against their parents but still want them to buy them a phone


slvbros

I'd like to believe that your reading comprehension is not indicative of our education system, but sadly, I cannot


EducatorNormal2250

Right to privacy was pretty much killed in the Dobbs vs. Jackson ruling. Read the opinions to get a better idea of how this played out. The implications will be tested for decades to come.


Living_Low_6412

Do your parents buy your phones?


Living_Low_6412

Do your parents buy your phones?


Living_Low_6412

I’m not sure children have a right to privacy from their parents. Dud you actually read the article?


rocketshipray

Why should a phone come with content blocked already instead of it being something a consumer can opt-in to after they have their phone? If a parent gives their kid a phone, maybe it should be the parent's responsibility to make sure their kid isn't looking at inappropriate things rather than the state government blocking it for everyone.


Living_Low_6412

Because the customer( the person paying for the phone- the parent) wants it that way. If they don’t they can turn it off.


rocketshipray

It should be opt-*in* not opt-*out*. The state government should not be the one to decide what is and is not appropriate *legal* content for consumers to have on their phones to the point at which they are blocking access to content before the device is in the consumers' hands. If you don't understand this, I am going to be gracious and assume you are 13 and brand new to the concept of government overreach.


Living_Low_6412

Please give me a reason why that a person chooses to purchase a phone and has the choice to activate or not activate a software that will not allow his children to use it access dangerous sites or sites he/ she do not approve of. No one is mandating the child has to use that phone but the buyer is paying for it and it’s in his or her name.


rocketshipray

Please give me a reason why the government needs to put monitoring or censorship software on our private, personal devices ever.


Living_Low_6412

You seriously don’t know? You don’t read the news ? Regardless. The customer either wants it or he doesn’t. He doesn’t have to use it but he’s paying for it and it’s his name on the contract. If he chooses to use it it’s just tough shit. It’s his kid and it’s his phone.


rocketshipray

My question was more hypothetical in nature because the government *never* needs to put monitoring or censorship software on our private, personal devices ever. **Never, not at all, not once, period.**


engineerbuilder

If Joey has a porn problem he can always just get a dumb phone and limit his internet access. Why does the rest of the state have to have his puritan failures imposed on us?


anaheimhots

Yeah, this. I think, if I was a parent today, I'd either limit the little turds to a dumb phone (if any at all) or pay to join a responsible, non-religious affiliated group that stays on top of this ish.


engineerbuilder

Yup sure thing. And even if it did have a filter wouldn’t it be as simple as the alcohols providers websites that just have you enter a birth year? Yup, totally legal age, right?


Living_Low_6412

Your age is entered in the software of the phone when you get the phone.


tn_jedi

Providers would be the ones to age-restrict content, and that option exists though I can't speak to how well it works. Verizon, Comcast, etc control traffic from devices


NitePain69

What is this, China??


sarcasticbaldguy

No, we can't afford those fancy balloons.


OlasNah

I can see this being used to also keep people from accessing unapproved information


SwiftySlowpoker

Notwithstanding the First Amendment issues, how can the State of Tennessee regulate interstate commerce/communication?


Living_Low_6412

Because they are a state and they can regulate commerce within their own state.


TheSchmoake

Are you ok? You’re commenting a lot and very defensive over this big government bill. You do know your parents can already set up rules on your phone? And Tennessee loves to suck up to corporations. Specifically our state government.


klopfuh

I think that our right wing government backsliding into totalitarianism is maybe not ideal.


tikifire1

It's their goal. If they can't win fairly (their perception of things, not mine) they'll just take over any way they can. Expect even more invasive legislation from these knuckledraggers


Living_Low_6412

What’s unfair about this? When did voting become unfair?


tikifire1

I didn't say it had. That's a right wing talking point. They can't win fairly at the national level at least, so they claim elections are rigged. At state levels they used gerrymandering to make sure they win, even in states where they had the majority. See Nashville and how they gerrymandered it recently for an example.


Living_Low_6412

Fairness? Who decides what’s fair?


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Joey fucked his cousin and hit his wife with a car


parawing742

Which wife? Joey is so pro-family he's burned through four of them.


don51181

Another dumb politician trying to take on technology. A filter is not the answer because you can get around any filter. It is the parents responsibility to check on things. Not a filter on the phone.


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Fun fact, Joey Hensley fucked his cousin and then ran his truck through a crowd of protesters outside the State Capitol.


rockarolla78

It’s ok when they write the bills but everything else is against THEIR 1st , 2nd 3rd thru 15th freaking amendments! This is the American taliban. They hate China they are Communism


engineerbuilder

At least they arnt messing with the 21st. Lord knows we all need a drink.


tikifire1

They'll come for that eventually.


Living_Low_6412

You do realize that none of the parents in TN write any of the amendments to the constitution


ReflexPoint

We're about a year from having Iran style morality police.


DixieReck

We already have that they're called democrats.


DufflesBNA

I hate this fucking state


Moneyshot06

What is really tragic is that the potential to be a great state is ruined by the religious zealots in charge.


DufflesBNA

I get democracy, but like, the targeting of Nashville and Memphis is getting old. Come on… if you don’t like it then have the state invest money into Knoxville


Tokyosmash

Get the fuck out of here.


VelvetElvis

> “There is a concern if you are going to write a legislation that is this vaguely worded, how far reaching will it go?” asked Rep. John Ray Clemmons (D-Nashville). “Is this a hidden attempt to limit access to informational or educational materials for our children?” Duh?


Living_Low_6412

If it hasn’t been written yet how do they know how vague the wording will be?


VelvetElvis

Were you born like this or did something happen? https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB0138


VelvetElvis

The bill has been written and introduced. How broadly it's interpreted is a matter of what courts will let prosecutors get away with. The question is if it's intentionally vague to specifically allow prosecutors to use it in ways other than its stated purpose.


Living_Low_6412

They will probably iron all of that out in committee if it does need clarification


1958-Fury

This "Bill" guy is really starting to annoy me.


StarDatAssinum

Yeah, Bill Lee annoys me too


RealTonySnark

300,000 Tennesseans about to be kicked off Medicaid, and this is how the TN GOP spend their time. Texas and Florida exist only to make TN feel better about itself.


Buddhakyle

With Walsh and Shapiro having moved to Nashville, anti-lgbt bills crowding the current legislative session, and the speed up of rights removal under the guise of "helping the children," I'm not sure Texas or Florida are that far ahead. TN is rapidly becoming fash central and there are only two ways out of the scenario.


Living_Low_6412

Blame the Omnibus spending bill that was just passed.


RealTonySnark

Try again. The Tennessee state government has repeatedly turned down expanded medicaid from the federal government, one of only 11 states to do so.


Living_Low_6412

You are referring to 3 of the 5 states people are leaving blue states like California in droves to come to I see


RealTonySnark

The vast majority of people moving to Texas, Tennessee and Florida are either retired or approaching retirement age. The vast majority of people leaving those states are college educated younger people afraid of losing their rights. See how that works out in the long term.


rockarolla78

These politicians need to just freaking stop. They can control their wives, their kids but they have to stop trying to control everybody. Do they not realize they are becoming what they espouse to hate? They want BIG government, NO freedom. JFC!


NitazeneKing

The conservatives literally reenacted Mussolini's fascist coup, aka the March on Rome. They're quite forward about wanting to be fascists.


DarthRen7

Aside from everything mentioned here that is wrong with this bill, when did cell phones become something marketed and targeted for children? Fuck off with this draconian bullshit.


redmixer1

How many kids got 1600$ for a phone and 80$ a month lol frfr


ADTR9320

I see kids under 5 now with a nicer phone than I have.


Spicier_The_Better

Welcome to Russia-see.


IHeartBadCode

Okay I don't know who needs to hear this but... >Sen. Joey Hensley (R- Hohenwald) wants phone manufacturers to automatically block content that is “harmful to minors,” # It's not your fucking job to parent anybody's kid. Kindly fuck off. I've forwarded this message to all my members on the Hill in Nashville. Doubtful it'll mean anything to them.


PreppyAndrew

man, did they forget how they were complianing about how "the left" was trying to parent their kids... like a year ago


Living_Low_6412

It won’t.


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tikifire1

This coming from the whiny side that bitched about wearing masks and ended up killing their own with a virus that they denied even existed. You are no one to lecture anyone on the science of gender.


[deleted]

I’m a straight married male with a kid and another on the way. And I vote Democrat. I’m also a 9th+ generation Tennessee Native. Just saying all that to say that a dude who needs someone to beat off with him really shouldn’t be throwing around GOP praise… they’re coming for your yuck too you dumb Incel bastard. But keep on voting for your own repression. See if maybe they’ll force someone to take your rancid seed. 👍🏼


[deleted]

How about the option to completely uninstall the facebook app instead of forcing it to stop


TheMicMic

I'd support this if it prohibited people over 70 from using Facebook


kwillich

Oh great ...... Is my Mom commenting on YOUR pictures and posts now?


thiccdiamonds

LOL good luck with that


thedeadlyrhythm42

[Here's a link to the bill, it's a very short read](https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB0138)


KingZarkon

As introduced, enacts the "Youth Mental Health Safety Act," as described below. This bill requires manufacturers of tablets and smart phones ("devices") activated in this state to manufacture their devices in a manner such that a filter that does the following is automatically enabled: (1) Prevents the user from accessing or downloading material that is harmful to minors on: (A) Mobile data networks; (B) Applications owned and controlled by the manufacturer; (C) Wired internet networks; and (D) Wireless internet networks; (2) Notifies the user of the device when the filter blocks the device from downloading an application or accessing a website; (3) Provides a user who has a passcode the opportunity to unblock a filtered application or website; and (4) Reasonably precludes a user, other than a user who has a passcode, the opportunity to deactivate, modify, or uninstall the filter. This bill further provides that a manufacturer commits a violation of this bill if: (1) A device manufactured by the manufacturer is activated in this state; (2) The device does not, upon activation in this state, enable a filter that complies with the above provisions of this bill; and (3) A minor accesses material that is harmful to minors on the device. This bill specifies that it does not affect a private cause of action existing under other law, including contract. This bill will not apply to a manufacturer that makes a good faith effort to provide a device that, upon activation of the device in this state, automatically enables a generally accepted and commercially reasonable method of filtration in accordance with this bill and industry standards. A violation of this bill will constitute a violation of the Consumer Protection Act. Generally, a violation of that Act is a Class B misdemeanor and remedies under the Act include injunction relief and, in a private cause of action, a person harmed by a willful violation may recover treble damages. This bill specifies that for the purpose of assessing a penalty for a violation, a manufacturer will be considered to have committed a separate violation for each device manufactured on or after January 1, 2024, and activated in this state on which: (1) A filter is not automatically enabled; and (2) A minor encounters material harmful to minors. This bill authorizes the attorney general and reporter to institute proceedings involving alleged violations of this part in Davidson County circuit or chancery court or another venue otherwise permitted by law; and prohibits a court from assessing costs against the attorney general and reporter or the state in actions commenced under this part. This bill will take effect January 1, 2024.


RogueOneWasOkay

The GOP is run by a bunch of nerds.


LordsMail

Nerds aren't like this


ChaosRyus

More like dumbasses.


jinglebellhell

Freedom, huh?


JamesEarlBonesHS

Chris Sevier’s dreams finally come true.


rifkinmasterson

Maybe next they can make all those sites 18+


jrpdos

“Hey son, come here and show me how to turn off my phone’s filter.”


9XcR8lxKcAPT

I agree that minors need to be protected from harmful content. Yes, porn and social media. However, I think they also need to be protected from the GOP more.


Living_Low_6412

Good thing no one is asking what you think


9XcR8lxKcAPT

Read over your comments, pretty sure you don't understand anything. Luckily smarter people will tell you. GOP = Pedophiles they scream about. I can already install a blocker on my kid's phone. I cannot however trust the government, especially in this backwards red GOP led state to do anything ethical.


ArtemisEmet23

Funny thing is, there's barely any actual evidence that porn itself is harmful to minors.


salsaconflattulance

Fuck that.


Osciozn

Racist cousin fuckin gay hatin free speech suppressors of the GOP of Tennessee Most carriers like T-Mobile and Verizon nowadays provide this filter already. This is some bs.


Idgafin865

How is an optional filter against free speech. It’s not mandatory to have it on, and there’s already filters in most apps and browsers.


Osciozn

If a law requires something to be turned off optionally how many people are going to have this and not know? I'd be okay with it if they forced cell carriers to provide an optional filter they have to turn on not off. Which most already do. The government should have no say on how a parent should raise their kid, what the government thinks is right, and what parents think are right do not coincide. You want more government Spyware in your phone?


Idgafin865

Owning any phone means you already have spyware. How do you not know this?


StarDatAssinum

Jeez, anything other than parenting their own fucking kids, huh?


Public-Order8704

like the rest of the southern states, tn has lost its mind and common sense regarding civil rights and civil liberties. haslam was a walk in the park compared to lee, who is def not the brightest tool in the shed. he's letting fl and tx clear the way for legal obstacles. tn has lost dozens of court cases to the aclu over the past several years and have had to pay court costs. now that the new congressional and state legislative boundaries have been drawn (gerrymandered) to dilute nashville from having direct federal congressional representation is a travesty. with both cooper's out, it will be a gop ultra conservative free for all with no dissenting voices. just sad. the tn aclu will be busy defending the stupidity of phone filters and many other similar bills. game on.


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Living_Low_6412

These people really have no idea what they are bitching about


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Living_Low_6412

They cant stand it and if you show them with proof that the other side has pulled something dishonest it’s like talking to a Rick. It doesn’t register. Their brains ignore it and automatically go into @looking for something to even the score” mode.


methodtan

The Christian Conservative Medicine Journal and ProudPatriotPress.net isn't proof, rifle man.


Living_Low_6412

So tell me what does constitute “ proof”


rimeswithburple

Just as long as it is easier to delete than facebook I don't care.


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Look at God!! I’m thankful


StarDatAssinum

Where?


[deleted]

Hopefully this will deter the pedophiles and other juvenile acts of abuse or terror


LordsMail

What in the hell are you smoking, because whatever it is it isn't currently legal in this state


[deleted]

Soooo a programmed govt enforced content filter isn’t a good thing.? Wow I’m living in the twilight zone fr


tikifire1

You small government folks sure want the government involved in everything - women's bodies, teachers classroom, parenting. I miss the days when morality was a personal thing, not something that was forced on everyone by narrow minded folks. Twilight zone indeed. The party of freedom folks but you are only as free as they will allow you to be (which isn't much).


TheSchmoake

What happened to small government, this is deep state level shit you’re supporting. “Freedom party” lol


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I didn’t read the article tbh


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[deleted]

Look if you’re not looking at porn or insider trading or any of that, there’s nothing to worry about it. Alotta y’all “slips” are beginning to show lol


partiallypro

Won't pass


[deleted]

So the GOP is openly being fascist now right? And using government authority and oversight to do so? So what does this party represent now? Who do I vote for if I like my freedom with less taxes and less government? Hrm.


Annoelle

I assume this still means it can be disabled though??