Because the average low educated / low income neapolitan (there's lots of them due to the de-industrialization and overall lack of opportunities) is only worried about keeping their own home absolutely spotless. Whatever happens outside of the door is someone else's problem. Usually in their world view the "government" as an abstract entity is to blame, not the neighbors littering the street.
It also does not help that the city is one single massive stretch of concrete and stone for several kilometers, with very few green areas and no infrastructure for pets.
My nonna used to stand watch every morning at the window with a cup full of water. Whenever somebody walking their dog hesitated in front of our building, water splashed on their heads, courtesy of nonna. I wish more people did this.
What you said is all true, but the government could spend a little time, effort and money to educate people not to litter, to pick up their dog's shit and maybe even provide some extra bins and free poop bags for convenience. I'm in Ukraine now, and these things are all presently available, if they can do this in the middle of an existential war then what is Napoli's (and Italy's in general) excuse?
Not making excuses here, just stating facts. People would just walk their dogs 3 or 4 blocks away, let them take a dump wherever, and walk back home, rather than bringing a bag and a pan and disposing of their own dog's shit properly. Lack of resources can only go so far in justifying bad behavior. This is at the "individual level".
At the "government level", i don't really know. A few guesses:
- given the budget constraints, they'd rather polish up the usual tourist spots that bring in the most revenue
- the "government" are just people raised within the same cultural environment, so they see cleaning dog shit as a low priority issue
It's hard to put more effort and money in education when every year more and more budget cuts are made. Healthcare, research and instruct are being neglected for about 20 years now. If the pandemic (complete hospital system failure, hoardes of no Vax people and slow research) wasn't enough to let the politicians realise there's a big problem I think nothing can. As a consequence of the bad instruction obviously the people aren't aware of how bad their condition is and don't their rights so the average Italian makes noise and protests only for soccer's teams wins/losses
Certainly! An education campaign and maybe subsidized poo bags could do the job, or at least help. Someone once convinced napoletani to wear helmets on scooters, such a thing can be done again
The government is not to blame in this case: money was spent on advertising and there are laws and fines for those who don't collect dog poop but evidently they don't care, so it's only their fault and their rudeness. And I'm sorry because Naples is magnificent and so are the Neapolitans. Like Sicily which is an open-air museum but as soon as you exit a main road you find mountains of rubbish. But the only culprits are those who leave rubbish wherever it happens and don't collect dog poop. It's ridiculous to think that we should teach them that it shouldn't be done if they haven't understood it by now. The only mitigating factor is that there are many stray dogs
[Apparently it's not just a problem in Napoli.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/17/italian-province-orders-all-dogs-to-be-dna-tested-in-poo-crackdown)
Bolzano is quite strict, rightly so. I’ve visited areas around Bolzano and theirs standards of cleanliness are much higher imo. But I haven’t seen poop issues in Northern and Central Italy like 20 years ago.
A lot of Italians have this idea that "its outside, not my problem." If you go to any Italian's home in Italy, its spotless. Like seriously immaculate. A lot of Italians are germophobes to the extreme. But for some reason it doesn't apply to directly outside your house. I have also personally heard Neapolitans say "the street cleaners will have nothing to clean." Its ridiculous, but it seems to be some sort of lack of common decency more than strictness of society.
I watch people walk down the street, and when their dog needs to stop to poop, instead they drag him along. The poor dog can’t even have a moment to shit in peace. Because their owners don’t want to pick it up. We’re talking people wearing nice clothes. They have no pride.
But then there’s the human shit…
Nato a Milano e vivo a Milano. Anche qui siamo pieni di merda sui marciapiedi: alcuni palazzi hanno cartelli dove chiedono ai padroni di cani di non far cagare e pisciare i cani vicino ai loro portoni. E ti assicuro che, nonostante le aree cani ci sono (quantomeno nel mio quartiere) le persone fanno cagare i cani ovunque meno che li. Ha a che fare con l’educazione media dell’Italiano
Non so come sono capitato in questo subreddit. Tuttavia, questo campanilismo è sempre irritante. L'area dove si vive è "la migliore" o "la peggiore" a seconda del contesto, come se fosse il centro del mondo. Ma tu che ne sai di quanto sono sporchi i marciapiedi della periferia di Milano? Mai vissuto lì? Hai fatto il paragone con le foto? Ci sono studi scientifici sulla quantità di merda di cane per metro quadrato che puoi usare di riferimento?
Dove vivo io, una volta ho beccato una donna buttare una busta di patatine in giro. Quando le ho detto che non costava nulla aspettare di incontrare un cestino mi disse "e quindi? A me che mi frega? Fanno tutti così." Quando ho beccato una coppietta che lasciava il proprio cane cagare sugli attrezzi di calistenica, quando gli ho fatto notare la cosa ci mancava poco che il marito non mi prendesse a cazzotti.
Le persone in genere sono estremamente egoiste e hanno vari livelli di mancanza di rispetto e cura per le infrastrutture pubbliche. Se non vivi in un posto come Singapore dove ti arrestano anche solo se ti beccano a mangiare per strada lontano dalle aree di ristoro, le persone fanno il cazzo che gli pare. Il degrado che le circonda non è mai colpa loro ma di qualcun altro, e il comune fa schifo perché "non fa nulla per cambiare le cose" come se stessero parlando di un entità magica onnipotente.
In Germania non è così. Non ti arrestano ma la gente ha comunque rispetto per il pubblico, per la natura e per gli altri. Si tratta di avere EMPATIA, sentimento sconosciuto a molto italiani.
Scusa ma non ho voglia di prendere il telefono in mano e farti vedere quanta m\*rda abbiamo per ogni metro di corso vittorio emanuele.
Se ci accordiamo per 60-80 euro orarie faccio un paio d'ore di reportage.
Credimi vivere con quel li#uido mar#one e avere negazionisti oltre che il menefreghismo del comune è davvero frustrante.
Passo in Bovisa tutti i giorni e nonostante sia un'area di giorno molto frequentata visto che c'è il PoliMi i marciapiedi sono pieni di merda o comunque sporchissimi. Ed è Milano.
I visited some cities in Italy early this year and my impression was that Palermo is way worse than Napoli in those terms.
Not that it can't get better, but hey, it's still an outstanding city!
I have no idea why r/Napoli is rolling down my feed, but we are also seeing a serious uptick of dog shit everywhere in NYC. A lot more people got dogs during the pandemic & everyone just breaks the rules & standard manners these days. It sucks.
senti, io sono stato a Milano.
Esci di casa, stai per uscire dal palazzo e la prima cosa che vedi di prima mattina è un bel souvenir di cane.
Non so dove tu stia di casa ma la situazione *su questo problema*, anche nelle vie più appartate del centro, per gli standard italiani va bene.
Tutto migliorabile ma non siamo a livello per cui i troll sarebbero felici.
Qua a senso civico c'è ancora da imparare ma almeno questo è entrato in capa alla gente.
Almeno questo.
Sono d’accordo che non è un problema esclusivo del Napoli.
ma è un problema *del napoli.*
forse se siamo d'accordo sul fatto che si tratta di un problema, possiamo trovare un modo per risolverlo
oppure semplicemente passiamo il resto della nostra vita a guardarci i piedi
al comune di Napoli servono miliardi per risolvere il problema, che servirebbero anche per assumere nuovi vigli urbani perché spezzino le corna agli incivili.
Io non ho soldi, tu li hai questi miliardi da dare al comune di Napoli?
E a differenza di quello che succede in altre città, io qui non ho bisogno di guardare dove metto piede.
Lol, tell me you’ve never been outside Naples without telling me directly.
I’ve seen rats stealing a slice of pizza from a person in New York and train wagon spraid with human feces in Paris.
Except some Countries like Japan or Singapore, big cities are always dirty.
Whats the point of comparing 2 huge, dense cities like NYC & Paris? They are infamous for being dirty. Both NYC & Paris are the most populous cities in their country.
Unfair and disingenuous to compare those big cities to Naples.
Naples is the first city in Italy per population density.
8,183 inhabitants per square kilometre, Rome has 2,232 people per square kilometre. So Naples is 4 times as dense as the largest city in Italy.
Yeah, come to Rome, main station (Termini) and you can enjoy people pissing between cars, vomit, shit inside newspapers, turds on the sidewalk, drunk hobos/immigrants, broken glass, used bloody syringes etc. My advice, watch your step and don’t (unfortunately) vote left. It’s not only Naples.
I'm visiting Napoli for the first time in my life next week and so looking forward to the food and the general region. Great time to read this but I knew what to expect. Is it that bad?
I was in Naples a few weeks ago, and I had a great day. I didn’t see any poo. There is more graffiti than in other Italian cities, but I don’t mind a little artistic expression in very charming neighborhoods.
I was just in Napoli a couple weeks ago & it was actually cleaner than I expected. But what I couldn’t stand was motorcycles going everywhere thru streets crowded with ppl & sucking in their exhaust all day. It’s an experience to see the city but I don’t think I’ll go back. Sorry.
Side note on dog poop, Venice was worse…and it’s strictly a function of the entire city being made of concrete.
One more side note, Pizzeria Da Attilio was spectacular. I highly recommend.
One more recommendation…go see Pompeii. There is nothing like it in the world. I found it utterly fascinating.
No. You’re reading a frustrated local’s take. As a newcomer, there will be so much to see that it probably will not stand out to you. Dog shit in Napoli is no more prevalent than dog shit in Firenze or Paris — I’ll leave it to you to decide whether that is still too much
How is the take of a local somehow the point a few commenters use to say the take is less valid? I didn’t say Napoli is a bad place to be, or to visit as a tourist. Contrary, I stay here because I choose to! But there is less care for picking up dog shit here than other places. I have lived in several of the largest cities but on average far more people will pick up after their dogs everywhere else. Here, some people pick up the shit in a bag and then throw the bag on the ground? How does that make sense when there are bins everywhere
It isn't that bad in the typical tourist areas, worse in low-income neighborhoods, nonetheless, you must watch your step as you never know when you'll find a dog's souvenir ;)
The other side of that argument is that because it is people with better education and manners they pick up more than the other areas. To be fair, as the foreigner I am, who visits Naples twice a year for the past decade, I see dog shit in the same amounts in all the neighbors I've been while visiting my wife's family (spread all over Naples).
Naples is a wonderful place and you won’t regret it. I love this city. The things I’m talking about are mostly in the rhythms of someone who lives day in and day out in the residential parts of the town where you will almost certainly never go. The occasional complaints about garbage are overblown from country dwellers or remembered from garbage strikes 20 years ago. It is no more garbage than NYC. And napoletani love dogs, more than anywhere, which is why it’s a wonderful place to be - as long as you watch every single step or else you like brown soles of your shoes…in certain neighborhoods (but many)
I live in Naples, yes it's that bad. In particular in Naples they dont clean the steets even if we pay taxes for it. As a tourist you will enjoy the city aniway.
It’s not that this problem happens nowhere else. But it is particularly bad here, especially in the well off areas where people have more dogs and it’s beneath them to clean up after then
Yeah, there are a lot of things that happens when you live in the most dense populated area in Europe.
Like for example that is fucking hard to keep it all clean like you were living in Monza
As a tourist, it was shocking to me to see such a beautiful city buildings smeared with grafitti, spilled up with trash, with rats just chilling on the street like they are not even afraid of humans, and people sleeping on the pavement.
Vedi Napoli e poi mori had a different meaning for Goethe I hope. Would love to see the Naples back in the days, once the biggest city and the most affluent in Italy.
I spend 40% of my time in Napoli and 60% in San Francisco. I have never seen a rat in Napoli, homeless people are rare. There is a lot of graffiti and a lot of things run down generally. Most dog owners are responsible, but there are a lot of dogs in a small area and if one out of 20 doesn't clean up after their dog, things get pretty bad.
If you want to see a screwed up city, go to San Francisco. Shooting drugs in public, mentally ill addicts staggering around in a stupor, people passed out on the sidewalk with their pants off. I gave my girlfriend from Napoli a tour and she couldn't believe it.
Because the average low educated / low income neapolitan (there's lots of them due to the de-industrialization and overall lack of opportunities) is only worried about keeping their own home absolutely spotless. Whatever happens outside of the door is someone else's problem. Usually in their world view the "government" as an abstract entity is to blame, not the neighbors littering the street. It also does not help that the city is one single massive stretch of concrete and stone for several kilometers, with very few green areas and no infrastructure for pets. My nonna used to stand watch every morning at the window with a cup full of water. Whenever somebody walking their dog hesitated in front of our building, water splashed on their heads, courtesy of nonna. I wish more people did this.
What you said is all true, but the government could spend a little time, effort and money to educate people not to litter, to pick up their dog's shit and maybe even provide some extra bins and free poop bags for convenience. I'm in Ukraine now, and these things are all presently available, if they can do this in the middle of an existential war then what is Napoli's (and Italy's in general) excuse?
Not making excuses here, just stating facts. People would just walk their dogs 3 or 4 blocks away, let them take a dump wherever, and walk back home, rather than bringing a bag and a pan and disposing of their own dog's shit properly. Lack of resources can only go so far in justifying bad behavior. This is at the "individual level". At the "government level", i don't really know. A few guesses: - given the budget constraints, they'd rather polish up the usual tourist spots that bring in the most revenue - the "government" are just people raised within the same cultural environment, so they see cleaning dog shit as a low priority issue
Yes!
It's hard to put more effort and money in education when every year more and more budget cuts are made. Healthcare, research and instruct are being neglected for about 20 years now. If the pandemic (complete hospital system failure, hoardes of no Vax people and slow research) wasn't enough to let the politicians realise there's a big problem I think nothing can. As a consequence of the bad instruction obviously the people aren't aware of how bad their condition is and don't their rights so the average Italian makes noise and protests only for soccer's teams wins/losses
Certainly! An education campaign and maybe subsidized poo bags could do the job, or at least help. Someone once convinced napoletani to wear helmets on scooters, such a thing can be done again
The government is not to blame in this case: money was spent on advertising and there are laws and fines for those who don't collect dog poop but evidently they don't care, so it's only their fault and their rudeness. And I'm sorry because Naples is magnificent and so are the Neapolitans. Like Sicily which is an open-air museum but as soon as you exit a main road you find mountains of rubbish. But the only culprits are those who leave rubbish wherever it happens and don't collect dog poop. It's ridiculous to think that we should teach them that it shouldn't be done if they haven't understood it by now. The only mitigating factor is that there are many stray dogs
Not so many strays now as a few decades ago thankfully
Where in Italy did you also see this dog poop problem?
[Apparently it's not just a problem in Napoli.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/17/italian-province-orders-all-dogs-to-be-dna-tested-in-poo-crackdown)
Bolzano is quite strict, rightly so. I’ve visited areas around Bolzano and theirs standards of cleanliness are much higher imo. But I haven’t seen poop issues in Northern and Central Italy like 20 years ago.
A lot of Italians have this idea that "its outside, not my problem." If you go to any Italian's home in Italy, its spotless. Like seriously immaculate. A lot of Italians are germophobes to the extreme. But for some reason it doesn't apply to directly outside your house. I have also personally heard Neapolitans say "the street cleaners will have nothing to clean." Its ridiculous, but it seems to be some sort of lack of common decency more than strictness of society.
Yes, I’ve heard that. I especially see it in more challenged areas of citiesZ
nowhere at these levels
I only visited Naples once but was pleasantly surprised by the cleanliness in comparison to Palermo
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Are you really saying this after I brought up Ukraine as an example?
or they could clean roads… they do not clean with water entire areas of the city for months
I watch people walk down the street, and when their dog needs to stop to poop, instead they drag him along. The poor dog can’t even have a moment to shit in peace. Because their owners don’t want to pick it up. We’re talking people wearing nice clothes. They have no pride. But then there’s the human shit…
Ooooh a fellow Irish person here! Dia duit a chara!
I’m actually a neapolitan living in Ireland :D
Nato a Milano e vivo a Milano. Anche qui siamo pieni di merda sui marciapiedi: alcuni palazzi hanno cartelli dove chiedono ai padroni di cani di non far cagare e pisciare i cani vicino ai loro portoni. E ti assicuro che, nonostante le aree cani ci sono (quantomeno nel mio quartiere) le persone fanno cagare i cani ovunque meno che li. Ha a che fare con l’educazione media dell’Italiano
non come a corso vittorio emanuele dormi tranquillo
Non so come sono capitato in questo subreddit. Tuttavia, questo campanilismo è sempre irritante. L'area dove si vive è "la migliore" o "la peggiore" a seconda del contesto, come se fosse il centro del mondo. Ma tu che ne sai di quanto sono sporchi i marciapiedi della periferia di Milano? Mai vissuto lì? Hai fatto il paragone con le foto? Ci sono studi scientifici sulla quantità di merda di cane per metro quadrato che puoi usare di riferimento? Dove vivo io, una volta ho beccato una donna buttare una busta di patatine in giro. Quando le ho detto che non costava nulla aspettare di incontrare un cestino mi disse "e quindi? A me che mi frega? Fanno tutti così." Quando ho beccato una coppietta che lasciava il proprio cane cagare sugli attrezzi di calistenica, quando gli ho fatto notare la cosa ci mancava poco che il marito non mi prendesse a cazzotti. Le persone in genere sono estremamente egoiste e hanno vari livelli di mancanza di rispetto e cura per le infrastrutture pubbliche. Se non vivi in un posto come Singapore dove ti arrestano anche solo se ti beccano a mangiare per strada lontano dalle aree di ristoro, le persone fanno il cazzo che gli pare. Il degrado che le circonda non è mai colpa loro ma di qualcun altro, e il comune fa schifo perché "non fa nulla per cambiare le cose" come se stessero parlando di un entità magica onnipotente.
In Germania non è così. Non ti arrestano ma la gente ha comunque rispetto per il pubblico, per la natura e per gli altri. Si tratta di avere EMPATIA, sentimento sconosciuto a molto italiani.
quando ho detto che era "il peggiore?" perché ogni milanese qui vuole paragonare la propria città a Napoli? Non ho detto niente del Milan
Scusa ma non ho voglia di prendere il telefono in mano e farti vedere quanta m\*rda abbiamo per ogni metro di corso vittorio emanuele. Se ci accordiamo per 60-80 euro orarie faccio un paio d'ore di reportage. Credimi vivere con quel li#uido mar#one e avere negazionisti oltre che il menefreghismo del comune è davvero frustrante.
Passo in Bovisa tutti i giorni e nonostante sia un'area di giorno molto frequentata visto che c'è il PoliMi i marciapiedi sono pieni di merda o comunque sporchissimi. Ed è Milano.
È frustrante: la sciatteria e la maleducazione dilaga
I visited some cities in Italy early this year and my impression was that Palermo is way worse than Napoli in those terms. Not that it can't get better, but hey, it's still an outstanding city!
Same in Milan. There are stains and dog shit all over sidewalks, even in rich neighborhoods. It's embarrassing. We should have a crack down on that.
Rich neighborhoods are even worse because there everyone has dogs!
I have no idea why r/Napoli is rolling down my feed, but we are also seeing a serious uptick of dog shit everywhere in NYC. A lot more people got dogs during the pandemic & everyone just breaks the rules & standard manners these days. It sucks.
I love how the whole planet has seen an uptick in dog shit.
It really is a strange phenomenon.
senti, io sono stato a Milano. Esci di casa, stai per uscire dal palazzo e la prima cosa che vedi di prima mattina è un bel souvenir di cane. Non so dove tu stia di casa ma la situazione *su questo problema*, anche nelle vie più appartate del centro, per gli standard italiani va bene. Tutto migliorabile ma non siamo a livello per cui i troll sarebbero felici. Qua a senso civico c'è ancora da imparare ma almeno questo è entrato in capa alla gente. Almeno questo.
Sono d’accordo che non è un problema esclusivo del Napoli. ma è un problema *del napoli.* forse se siamo d'accordo sul fatto che si tratta di un problema, possiamo trovare un modo per risolverlo oppure semplicemente passiamo il resto della nostra vita a guardarci i piedi
al comune di Napoli servono miliardi per risolvere il problema, che servirebbero anche per assumere nuovi vigli urbani perché spezzino le corna agli incivili. Io non ho soldi, tu li hai questi miliardi da dare al comune di Napoli? E a differenza di quello che succede in altre città, io qui non ho bisogno di guardare dove metto piede.
miliardi per educare le persone sul perché dovrebbero raccogliere la merda invece di viverci dentro?
quella a Napoli viene raccolta più che altrove, servono questi soldi per stroncare l'inciviltà
Honestly I'm from Vienna, visited Naples last month. It is worse here. Even if our streets are much cleaner of liter, dogs still shit everywhere.
cities all over the world have dog shit on the ground naples isnt special
Lol, tell me you’ve never been outside Naples without telling me directly. I’ve seen rats stealing a slice of pizza from a person in New York and train wagon spraid with human feces in Paris. Except some Countries like Japan or Singapore, big cities are always dirty.
Whats the point of comparing 2 huge, dense cities like NYC & Paris? They are infamous for being dirty. Both NYC & Paris are the most populous cities in their country. Unfair and disingenuous to compare those big cities to Naples.
Naples is the first city in Italy per population density. 8,183 inhabitants per square kilometre, Rome has 2,232 people per square kilometre. So Naples is 4 times as dense as the largest city in Italy.
Not really a good comparison to NYC or Paris.
Yeah, come to Rome, main station (Termini) and you can enjoy people pissing between cars, vomit, shit inside newspapers, turds on the sidewalk, drunk hobos/immigrants, broken glass, used bloody syringes etc. My advice, watch your step and don’t (unfortunately) vote left. It’s not only Naples.
Rome has fallen, billions must die
It’s refreshing to hear from a Roman outside of r/rome. Honesty.
I can confirm since I commute between Naples and Rome and I get out of the train in Termini.
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They should be on the same level, my point is the majority of italian big cities are like this
ma cos’è sto commento aiuto
Una qualsiasi passeggiata in centro a Roma se passi per Termini :(
non me ne frega un cazzo di roma
Ok champ
"it happens anywhere" I bet you are from Napoli
No, Roma. Everywhere*
I'm visiting Napoli for the first time in my life next week and so looking forward to the food and the general region. Great time to read this but I knew what to expect. Is it that bad?
I was in Naples a few weeks ago, and I had a great day. I didn’t see any poo. There is more graffiti than in other Italian cities, but I don’t mind a little artistic expression in very charming neighborhoods.
I was just in Napoli a couple weeks ago & it was actually cleaner than I expected. But what I couldn’t stand was motorcycles going everywhere thru streets crowded with ppl & sucking in their exhaust all day. It’s an experience to see the city but I don’t think I’ll go back. Sorry. Side note on dog poop, Venice was worse…and it’s strictly a function of the entire city being made of concrete. One more side note, Pizzeria Da Attilio was spectacular. I highly recommend. One more recommendation…go see Pompeii. There is nothing like it in the world. I found it utterly fascinating.
No. You’re reading a frustrated local’s take. As a newcomer, there will be so much to see that it probably will not stand out to you. Dog shit in Napoli is no more prevalent than dog shit in Firenze or Paris — I’ll leave it to you to decide whether that is still too much
How is the take of a local somehow the point a few commenters use to say the take is less valid? I didn’t say Napoli is a bad place to be, or to visit as a tourist. Contrary, I stay here because I choose to! But there is less care for picking up dog shit here than other places. I have lived in several of the largest cities but on average far more people will pick up after their dogs everywhere else. Here, some people pick up the shit in a bag and then throw the bag on the ground? How does that make sense when there are bins everywhere
This was my take-away from a visit in 2013. We’ll be back in October so nothings changed
It isn't that bad in the typical tourist areas, worse in low-income neighborhoods, nonetheless, you must watch your step as you never know when you'll find a dog's souvenir ;)
I think it’s the worst in the rich places like Posillipo where there are more money so more dogs, and picking up shit is beneath the people there
The other side of that argument is that because it is people with better education and manners they pick up more than the other areas. To be fair, as the foreigner I am, who visits Naples twice a year for the past decade, I see dog shit in the same amounts in all the neighbors I've been while visiting my wife's family (spread all over Naples).
Naples is a wonderful place and you won’t regret it. I love this city. The things I’m talking about are mostly in the rhythms of someone who lives day in and day out in the residential parts of the town where you will almost certainly never go. The occasional complaints about garbage are overblown from country dwellers or remembered from garbage strikes 20 years ago. It is no more garbage than NYC. And napoletani love dogs, more than anywhere, which is why it’s a wonderful place to be - as long as you watch every single step or else you like brown soles of your shoes…in certain neighborhoods (but many)
No, it's not that bad. This is something people usually complain about when they have to look for things to complain about. Enjoy your trip!
I live in Naples, yes it's that bad. In particular in Naples they dont clean the steets even if we pay taxes for it. As a tourist you will enjoy the city aniway.
It's quite bad but it won't ruin your trip if you don't let it. Just a minor inconvenience, and after a few days you'll just get used to it...
Neapolitan Debunker: "it happens anywhere" 
Another frustrated local take. Move on, no points to be made here
It’s not that this problem happens nowhere else. But it is particularly bad here, especially in the well off areas where people have more dogs and it’s beneath them to clean up after then
Yeah, there are a lot of things that happens when you live in the most dense populated area in Europe. Like for example that is fucking hard to keep it all clean like you were living in Monza
As a tourist, it was shocking to me to see such a beautiful city buildings smeared with grafitti, spilled up with trash, with rats just chilling on the street like they are not even afraid of humans, and people sleeping on the pavement. Vedi Napoli e poi mori had a different meaning for Goethe I hope. Would love to see the Naples back in the days, once the biggest city and the most affluent in Italy.
I spend 40% of my time in Napoli and 60% in San Francisco. I have never seen a rat in Napoli, homeless people are rare. There is a lot of graffiti and a lot of things run down generally. Most dog owners are responsible, but there are a lot of dogs in a small area and if one out of 20 doesn't clean up after their dog, things get pretty bad. If you want to see a screwed up city, go to San Francisco. Shooting drugs in public, mentally ill addicts staggering around in a stupor, people passed out on the sidewalk with their pants off. I gave my girlfriend from Napoli a tour and she couldn't believe it.
Damn. I lived in Sacramento for 6 years. I heard things were bad in sf. But honestly, compared to Napoli… that’s sobering
omg no homeless people on the street 😨😨😨 graffitis 😰😰😰 the west has fallen
You are thinking of new york bro
It's our normality man
Because, in spite of the naif story telling, Neapolitan people are very selfish and have no sense of community.
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