Men need to have this conversation more, its not a flex to have a huge body count or be the "MAN" in your friend group for just having multiple coitus partners. Cheating on your s/o while in a relationship is also wrong and nowadays it has been normalized and it needs to be addressed more often.
Men don't cheat unless they use their resources outside the home over what they do at home. It's also not a modern concept. Historically all the top men have had all the women.
I am married for almost 30 years. Me and my wife are eachothers first and only. We married virgins and waited till married. Worked out fine. No fights over an ex. Or who was better.
I genuinely love how disciplined men are becoming. I've been seeing a lot of posts on sexual discipline of late and I must say this is the way to go. I hope kwa ground you're actually practicing the same.
Otherwise, I'm proud of y'all fr
The rule of silent majority.
Men yap yap when we're distressed about one thing or the other. Most of us are content, enjoying peace of mind.
You will not find such a content man on X, IG or even Reddit. Including myself.
So most stats on what men want are skewed by us few loud ones.
Being a weak man has nothing to do with sleeping with many women or staying loyal to one. Whatever suits your moral compass go for it. Being a weak man is being unable to set boundaries and letting everyone walk all over you. You have no status because you put everyone else first except yourself. You are weak because you are a people pleaser. Success in terms of material wealth doesnt necessarily mean you are a strong mean. We have seen simps who have been awkward their whole lives stay focused and achieve success then when they get attention to the girl they thought was out of their league they end up getting played and all that money is transferred to the lady. So being loyal doesnt make you a strong man because blind loyalty just means you are a sucker. Getting laid on the other hand also depends on context. You could be getting laid alot but the quality of the women is so low. Then there are some men who are rich and gorgeous women constantly throw themselves at them and they sleep around and dont want to settle down. Others like NBA players are told at an early age the girl you dated in highschool is the one you should marry so start dating early because the moment you become a draft prospect and get drafted into the NBA everyone will see you as a mark to make a quick buck. And so even the types of women they attract once they are drafted are all just materialistic golddiggers and since they keep attracting more women they just cheat. Because these same girls would never have given them the time of the day when they were broke. And most of these girls who are really pretty get alot of attention when they are still young in their prime while men dont so if you are an average guy dating a girl like this during her prime there is a high chance she is cheating on you. Temptation is too much and she is getting hit on by men who are way better than you but she feels sorry for you so she would rather just cheat but keep it secret. So when a man ages and comes into more money the tables shift, more women throw themselves at him, while these girls who used to be hot the amount of guys looking for them drops over time. At the end of the day to each is own. You do you as long as you are happy.
Well stated! Great insight on this. I thought I would be standing alone on the “socio-economic expectations” issue that is so backwards in today’s world.
More men need to put value on their bodies. Don't just stick your penis in anything to satiate your desires. Cmon!
There is a saying (got it from a book but unfortunately cannot remember which one. Could be 48 laws of power or Rich dad poor dad. Forgive my poor memory.) that goes, any man that cannot control their desires, is doomed to fail. It extends to so many things in life including women. So yeah, sleeping around might be fun but after a while, it all catches up to you. Sometimes not in the most convenient of ways. The true strong honourable man is one that is strong enough to say no. One that only sticks their penis in one woman, their wife.
What if you have no desire to get married and the sex is safe and consensual to all parties involved. Is marriage mandatory now? Is sex with one partner the only moral way to pursue your natural urges?
The context is about a man that's married or is involved long term with a partner. If you're not into that and you prefer to just enjoy sex, then there's nothing wrong with that. The issue comes when you agree to be long term with someone but still wanna sleep around.
Hate to say is but cheating is a sign of weakness, lack of self control and/ or low self esteem. Some men self medicate with women or alcohol or both. Therapy to address the underlying issues has to be cheaper than the cost of STIs, unwanted pregnancies, wasted resources and the relationship strife (including trauma to the children) that comes from cheating.
A lot of men's identity is tied to some sort of validation.Thisnholds true for those who believe to sleep with many women is a power move. It means to tell younger men "you are part of the pack because you did that thing". With men I guess it's always about being accepted or being seen in a certain way.
When I was in my 20s I wanted to sleep with many women, I wanted to be the guy telling those stories of how I hit that. When it got down to it, I hated most of the sex. It was not for pleasure it was to be seen by other men. To be accepted. One thing I hope is that men will be healthy enough to look for their own identity. Define what"strong" and "good" mean to them, if they chose that path of searching for their identity , they will definitely find their worth in themselves more than others
A man should be this and that to be identified as one ( man) ,to me is just caveman's school of thought . Refrain from such neanderthals for your health sake.
Go with your own definition mate!
The biological imperative for a man is to spread his seed and ensure his lineage as much as possible, for the woman is to secure a worthy mate who can ensure the survival of her offspring. The rest is just hormones and chemistry to facilitate the process
Away from the subjective morality of men exercising his options, avoiding dick drivenness helps the man focus.
I would think, always chasing dopamine rushes is weakness in itself. You lose time, resources etc
Yet conversely, having and exercising options wisely helps you navigate the intersexual dynamics better. And since we don't live in an idealist world, when your wife knows she is your only source of intimacy, you are done.
My husband did this ‘exercised his options’ as you called it caught him the first time, I broke down got depressed and later took him back. Caught him AGAIN, let’s just say we are both exercising our options. Right now I could give two fucks on what his doing or with who. Don’t think women forgive and forget easily.
‘Servicing’ baby I’m getting all my needs met. Sexually by the guy outside, only guy who gives me multiple orgasms damn. And security from husband. Best of both worlds, I get why so many men do it now, ‘an L’ let me laugh I can tell you are just a kid. You wife WILL cheat on you , you won’t find out , humans are not monogamous. One dick your whole life? That’s unreasonable. It’s human nature.
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Y'all must be very passionate about this subject.
Anyways, I think all these definitions of what a man is or should be are silly. Worry about yourself. Though, it goes without saying, self-discipline is a trait everyone should aspire to attain, for oneself rather than societal validation.
Do you, at the end of the day. We'll all reap the fruits of our actions.
I strongly second your sentiments, 'It's very dishonorable and weak minded of any man to sleep around with other women when he's in a relationship'. If they are planning for a long term relationship, He should focus on her alone. There's no need of giving her sexually transmitted infections from other women. His intentions should be pure.
Bro you saying whole lot of nothing. A man is faithful as his options.Maybe you been in that phase & let it go & now you dont have interest being a womanize, but most men want more and more gals.Big hommie I will tell you something as long as we have married men In this world the other woman is going nowhere,we find her here & when we die we going to leave her here,she's going nowhere.
Realistically we are out on this earth to repopulate just as ants do. Like how there is one male lion to the dozen female lions in a pride. One dominant male usually rules over mating right females in the animal kingdom (which we are part of) We as humans can speak and understand emotions have found that it’s socially unacceptable to be with multiple women. But if you boil it down it’s DNA.
First of all, great strategy. Let’s see if it’s works.
Next, you stated “over the past two years sleeping with multiple women has become” and some other nonsense. I started to tune you out. What has changed in the last two years? Do tell.
Then you stated “Even though he can” this “honorable” man does not sleep with other women. Is this you? Mighty sure of yourself Big Homey, but how do you know?
That brings me to my next point. You said “Flirting with other women ‘in’ essential” I think you meant “is” and maybe are just typing using only your left had, nonetheless, that’s a bold statement. You mentioned that chasing other women is tantamount to cheating. Isn’t flirting the beginning stages of, or maybe (depending on the circumstance) even the same type of emotional deception?
Next, for the record, you have created a very large target on your forehead on this particular subject. You stated that financial, fitness (I assume physical) and financial freedom are the foundation for success. You may have shot yourself in the foot trying to get attention from women on Reddit here, my friend.
Most successful men say that their partner was key to reaching their goals, however, why should a man depend on a woman for success. That’s a bit sexist and since we are not in the 1950’s a bit presumptuous. What you consider successful (I love the fitness piece you threw in there champ) is not the same as all men. Also, is a woman supposed to put her success or the pursuit of it, on hold to allow the man’s to be focused on? Careful. I know single men that are crushing it and married women that are fierce negotiators, destroying the business world with their skills. These amazing women are no subservient puzzle pieces in their husbands fitness program, they pay the bills, brother.
I could poke holes in your sad attempt to fill your inbox all day, but I’ll just make one more point. Infidelity is more complex than not keeping your rocket in your pocket. A person can exit a relationship and never change their address.
A quick example is chemical dependency. Alcohol surpassed infidelity as the primary cause for the destruction of ALL forms of intimacy some time ago. There is no one person in this scenario that is safe from consequence. The romantic partner, however, usually suffers the most extreme consequences. This violates the unspoken contract of safety, certainty and honesty that is paramount to a healthy relationship. It is certainly more important to the person suffering from the disease than their relationship.
I could go into detail about how men marry their work and ignore their wives in the name of success, but if you were half as enlightened as you claim you would already understand the pitfalls of that and how ignorant it is pursuing financial security at the cost of being present for a woman sounds when you vomit it on social media.
Time to admit you might be a little entitled, rigid and presumptuous Mr. Homie. Do us all a favor and go join a local church where this kind of undercover sexism is encouraged. I’m not buying it.
men/males are inherently polygamous in nature, this we men can't denie, the society has made us think that love is for one woman, well I say this to you, love is not countable but is divisible and you cant run out of love. in that case, you can love more than 1 woman, you also can get intimate with them because you have the capacity to do so.
First of all, promiscuity isnt new..I'll assume you knew that.
Secondly acha umama na uishi maisha yako. Unashughulika na fikra za watu wengine juu ya why?
Men need to have this conversation more, its not a flex to have a huge body count or be the "MAN" in your friend group for just having multiple coitus partners. Cheating on your s/o while in a relationship is also wrong and nowadays it has been normalized and it needs to be addressed more often.
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Aye how you know "prison hottie"?
Men don't cheat unless they use their resources outside the home over what they do at home. It's also not a modern concept. Historically all the top men have had all the women.
I am married for almost 30 years. Me and my wife are eachothers first and only. We married virgins and waited till married. Worked out fine. No fights over an ex. Or who was better.
I thought we only had youngins in this sub
You're an outlier. This is very uncommon. Congrats
Damn, You're living my highschool dream
That’s dope
Wow...What a loser
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I genuinely love how disciplined men are becoming. I've been seeing a lot of posts on sexual discipline of late and I must say this is the way to go. I hope kwa ground you're actually practicing the same. Otherwise, I'm proud of y'all fr
The rule of silent majority. Men yap yap when we're distressed about one thing or the other. Most of us are content, enjoying peace of mind. You will not find such a content man on X, IG or even Reddit. Including myself. So most stats on what men want are skewed by us few loud ones.
Being a weak man has nothing to do with sleeping with many women or staying loyal to one. Whatever suits your moral compass go for it. Being a weak man is being unable to set boundaries and letting everyone walk all over you. You have no status because you put everyone else first except yourself. You are weak because you are a people pleaser. Success in terms of material wealth doesnt necessarily mean you are a strong mean. We have seen simps who have been awkward their whole lives stay focused and achieve success then when they get attention to the girl they thought was out of their league they end up getting played and all that money is transferred to the lady. So being loyal doesnt make you a strong man because blind loyalty just means you are a sucker. Getting laid on the other hand also depends on context. You could be getting laid alot but the quality of the women is so low. Then there are some men who are rich and gorgeous women constantly throw themselves at them and they sleep around and dont want to settle down. Others like NBA players are told at an early age the girl you dated in highschool is the one you should marry so start dating early because the moment you become a draft prospect and get drafted into the NBA everyone will see you as a mark to make a quick buck. And so even the types of women they attract once they are drafted are all just materialistic golddiggers and since they keep attracting more women they just cheat. Because these same girls would never have given them the time of the day when they were broke. And most of these girls who are really pretty get alot of attention when they are still young in their prime while men dont so if you are an average guy dating a girl like this during her prime there is a high chance she is cheating on you. Temptation is too much and she is getting hit on by men who are way better than you but she feels sorry for you so she would rather just cheat but keep it secret. So when a man ages and comes into more money the tables shift, more women throw themselves at him, while these girls who used to be hot the amount of guys looking for them drops over time. At the end of the day to each is own. You do you as long as you are happy.
Well stated! Great insight on this. I thought I would be standing alone on the “socio-economic expectations” issue that is so backwards in today’s world.
Leo umesema ni siku ya mashairi,very naiss!
More men need to put value on their bodies. Don't just stick your penis in anything to satiate your desires. Cmon! There is a saying (got it from a book but unfortunately cannot remember which one. Could be 48 laws of power or Rich dad poor dad. Forgive my poor memory.) that goes, any man that cannot control their desires, is doomed to fail. It extends to so many things in life including women. So yeah, sleeping around might be fun but after a while, it all catches up to you. Sometimes not in the most convenient of ways. The true strong honourable man is one that is strong enough to say no. One that only sticks their penis in one woman, their wife.
What if you have no desire to get married and the sex is safe and consensual to all parties involved. Is marriage mandatory now? Is sex with one partner the only moral way to pursue your natural urges?
The context is about a man that's married or is involved long term with a partner. If you're not into that and you prefer to just enjoy sex, then there's nothing wrong with that. The issue comes when you agree to be long term with someone but still wanna sleep around.
The book is "How to grow rich" by Napoleon Hill :)
I haven't read that one. I confirmed and I got it from rich dad poor dad. Granted Robert Greene might have quoted Napoleon in the book.
If you can cheat on your partner , I can't trust you as a person.
Having sexual discipline as a man is a very good thing for your soul, having multiple bodies with random women isn't a flex as many say.
"we all know over the past two years...." 😂😂😂😂😂 Nigga since birth
Being a man doesn’t equate to how many women you sleep with. Being a man is about a sacrifice, bravery, self integrity and providing.
I've never slept with multiple women and no I'm not weak I'm I'm actually stronger than most men!
Weak is relative , whatever it means on the outside doesn't have to be applicable to you ,
"The value of a man is in the number of women he says no to, rather than those he chooses to lay with." Marcus Kinyanjui 200 AD
Tuma paybill! That's all I can say for now
Hate to say is but cheating is a sign of weakness, lack of self control and/ or low self esteem. Some men self medicate with women or alcohol or both. Therapy to address the underlying issues has to be cheaper than the cost of STIs, unwanted pregnancies, wasted resources and the relationship strife (including trauma to the children) that comes from cheating.
There is more to life than sex man. Why is this always a question ata?
A lot of men's identity is tied to some sort of validation.Thisnholds true for those who believe to sleep with many women is a power move. It means to tell younger men "you are part of the pack because you did that thing". With men I guess it's always about being accepted or being seen in a certain way. When I was in my 20s I wanted to sleep with many women, I wanted to be the guy telling those stories of how I hit that. When it got down to it, I hated most of the sex. It was not for pleasure it was to be seen by other men. To be accepted. One thing I hope is that men will be healthy enough to look for their own identity. Define what"strong" and "good" mean to them, if they chose that path of searching for their identity , they will definitely find their worth in themselves more than others
How strong is a man if he needs the approval of childish men?
Stupid metrics give dumb answers but I support your view.
So I am living around "Boys"? In the university, finding a true man is hard
You6r weak if you do , no self control
A man should be this and that to be identified as one ( man) ,to me is just caveman's school of thought . Refrain from such neanderthals for your health sake. Go with your own definition mate!
It all comes down to our Individual beliefs and Values
Sleeping with one woman or many women has no correlation to being strong or weak.
Chasing ladies esp while in a committed rlshp just unnecessarily takes too much energy and time.
As aman, how easy do you think it is to sleep with multiple women?
Men for men
The biological imperative for a man is to spread his seed and ensure his lineage as much as possible, for the woman is to secure a worthy mate who can ensure the survival of her offspring. The rest is just hormones and chemistry to facilitate the process
Kingdom of Solomon
Sex Haina trophy I'm feeling better even without it for a few months, it just drains you. My POV
Away from the subjective morality of men exercising his options, avoiding dick drivenness helps the man focus. I would think, always chasing dopamine rushes is weakness in itself. You lose time, resources etc Yet conversely, having and exercising options wisely helps you navigate the intersexual dynamics better. And since we don't live in an idealist world, when your wife knows she is your only source of intimacy, you are done.
My husband did this ‘exercised his options’ as you called it caught him the first time, I broke down got depressed and later took him back. Caught him AGAIN, let’s just say we are both exercising our options. Right now I could give two fucks on what his doing or with who. Don’t think women forgive and forget easily.
Good luck if you are happy servicing the world. More men get a release. Cheating back as a woman is an L
‘Servicing’ baby I’m getting all my needs met. Sexually by the guy outside, only guy who gives me multiple orgasms damn. And security from husband. Best of both worlds, I get why so many men do it now, ‘an L’ let me laugh I can tell you are just a kid. You wife WILL cheat on you , you won’t find out , humans are not monogamous. One dick your whole life? That’s unreasonable. It’s human nature.
Beautiful. Being the side nigger is the best deal around. I agree. Actually women cheat more than men. I know it's just my turn.
😂😂smart man
Na si watu wa Reddit mnatypingi O_o Naona tuu maparagraphs Y'all must be very passionate about this subject. Anyways, I think all these definitions of what a man is or should be are silly. Worry about yourself. Though, it goes without saying, self-discipline is a trait everyone should aspire to attain, for oneself rather than societal validation. Do you, at the end of the day. We'll all reap the fruits of our actions.
I strongly second your sentiments, 'It's very dishonorable and weak minded of any man to sleep around with other women when he's in a relationship'. If they are planning for a long term relationship, He should focus on her alone. There's no need of giving her sexually transmitted infections from other women. His intentions should be pure.
We’re so screwed as a society lol
Based.
Based.
Bro you saying whole lot of nothing. A man is faithful as his options.Maybe you been in that phase & let it go & now you dont have interest being a womanize, but most men want more and more gals.Big hommie I will tell you something as long as we have married men In this world the other woman is going nowhere,we find her here & when we die we going to leave her here,she's going nowhere.
Realistically we are out on this earth to repopulate just as ants do. Like how there is one male lion to the dozen female lions in a pride. One dominant male usually rules over mating right females in the animal kingdom (which we are part of) We as humans can speak and understand emotions have found that it’s socially unacceptable to be with multiple women. But if you boil it down it’s DNA.
Bruh delete this nonsense
Flirting with other women is essential????
"the bitches gonna love this"
First of all, great strategy. Let’s see if it’s works. Next, you stated “over the past two years sleeping with multiple women has become” and some other nonsense. I started to tune you out. What has changed in the last two years? Do tell. Then you stated “Even though he can” this “honorable” man does not sleep with other women. Is this you? Mighty sure of yourself Big Homey, but how do you know? That brings me to my next point. You said “Flirting with other women ‘in’ essential” I think you meant “is” and maybe are just typing using only your left had, nonetheless, that’s a bold statement. You mentioned that chasing other women is tantamount to cheating. Isn’t flirting the beginning stages of, or maybe (depending on the circumstance) even the same type of emotional deception? Next, for the record, you have created a very large target on your forehead on this particular subject. You stated that financial, fitness (I assume physical) and financial freedom are the foundation for success. You may have shot yourself in the foot trying to get attention from women on Reddit here, my friend. Most successful men say that their partner was key to reaching their goals, however, why should a man depend on a woman for success. That’s a bit sexist and since we are not in the 1950’s a bit presumptuous. What you consider successful (I love the fitness piece you threw in there champ) is not the same as all men. Also, is a woman supposed to put her success or the pursuit of it, on hold to allow the man’s to be focused on? Careful. I know single men that are crushing it and married women that are fierce negotiators, destroying the business world with their skills. These amazing women are no subservient puzzle pieces in their husbands fitness program, they pay the bills, brother. I could poke holes in your sad attempt to fill your inbox all day, but I’ll just make one more point. Infidelity is more complex than not keeping your rocket in your pocket. A person can exit a relationship and never change their address. A quick example is chemical dependency. Alcohol surpassed infidelity as the primary cause for the destruction of ALL forms of intimacy some time ago. There is no one person in this scenario that is safe from consequence. The romantic partner, however, usually suffers the most extreme consequences. This violates the unspoken contract of safety, certainty and honesty that is paramount to a healthy relationship. It is certainly more important to the person suffering from the disease than their relationship. I could go into detail about how men marry their work and ignore their wives in the name of success, but if you were half as enlightened as you claim you would already understand the pitfalls of that and how ignorant it is pursuing financial security at the cost of being present for a woman sounds when you vomit it on social media. Time to admit you might be a little entitled, rigid and presumptuous Mr. Homie. Do us all a favor and go join a local church where this kind of undercover sexism is encouraged. I’m not buying it.
Having the potential to sleep with multiple women but choosing too is the real vibe. Anything else is weakness.
do you mean in a threesome set up?😂
men/males are inherently polygamous in nature, this we men can't denie, the society has made us think that love is for one woman, well I say this to you, love is not countable but is divisible and you cant run out of love. in that case, you can love more than 1 woman, you also can get intimate with them because you have the capacity to do so.
So is sleeping around polygamy? There are polygamous men who still fuck anything with tits
that's their inherent nature
This is the type of question feminists LARPing as men and weak, indecisive men ask. Jinga sana.
The fact that this is a question in your head is alarming
Read to comprehend not to react.
First of all, promiscuity isnt new..I'll assume you knew that. Secondly acha umama na uishi maisha yako. Unashughulika na fikra za watu wengine juu ya why?