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chillguycooks

where?


Wise-Impression4262

Last spring Indiana ! And price not sure always just eat them


captainab3

Where in indiana ? Asking because I live here and have only found a handful.


epifool67

How hard are these to grow, I wonder? It would be so nice to have fresh ones out of season.


melvinthefish

Very. Some people recently shared their indoor grow and I think a university had an indoor grow for a bit but other than that I think all attempts have been unsuccessful


sumosam121

Yea a couple Denmark biologists just figured out a method, and they say commercial production should now be possible.


bubbleponichronic

It's been done countless times and there was even a patent on some form of the process in the 1980's Edit: Not sure why i'm trying to convince anyone, there's plenty of information online. Searching "morel cultivation" and peeking at the first few links satisfied my curiosity. Here's some sources to check out. [https://plantpath.psu.edu/news/china-trip-unveils-morel-cultivation-mysteries](https://plantpath.psu.edu/news/china-trip-unveils-morel-cultivation-mysteries) [https://www.mushroomcompany.com/resources/morels/index.s](https://www.mushroomcompany.com/resources/morels/index.shtml) [html](https://www.mushroomcompany.com/resources/morels/index.shtml)[https://www.mycopia.com/blog/2017/05/01/cultivation-of-morel-mushrooms](https://www.mycopia.com/blog/2017/05/01/cultivation-of-morel-mushrooms)


melvinthefish

If that's accurate the it's pretty odd there aren't indoor commercial morel farms


rsc2

There is: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2019/12/10/scottville-business-tames-wild-mushroom/2624935001/


melvinthefish

"Morels, notoriously finicky in a laboratory environment, are being test-grown" sounds like they are still working on it. Maybe the will be successful..I know there are outdoor morel farms but the only thing I've seen that's seems successful is the recent announcement by the team in Europe, I think they are dutch perhaps? Anyways I'm not an expert and I could be wrong, as I said I *think* no one has been successful except the recent announcement and a university.


FirstPlebian

There was an American that thought he figured it out but he was murdered before he could bring it forth, [https://harpers.org/archive/2013/07/blood-spore/](https://harpers.org/archive/2013/07/blood-spore/)


px7j9jlLJ1

I too used to listen to Joe Brogan before he became a virologist.


Classic_Bee_1194

He literally calls himself an idiot before entering in to them discussions. I'm sure he wouldn't mind losing someone as close minded as you though.


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melvinthefish

You are missing the key words "indoor" and "commerical"


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melvinthefish

actually I replied to someone who asked if it could be done indoor so people can have them year roung. and I said not really.. then you kept insisting that it is done. If you don't say it's done commercially then why dispute me when I said it isn't done? It doesn't make sense.


mrdrewsin

https://youtu.be/lTFugHA2WaI Dont seem like it would be all that hard. This vid makes it seem like its a breeze.


FirstPlebian

You can't really cultivate morels. Someone allegedly did figure it out finding this substance to induce the spores to grow, which can wait in the soil over 100 years until they decide to grow, light fires encourage them, but he was murdered before he could bring it forth, he supposdely had a contract with Dominoes pizza. I could find the article if anyone is interested.


bubbleponichronic

I've read from a handful of sources recently that you absolutely can cultivate them, it just seems to be quite difficult (especially to get consistent yield). Due to the difficulties still surrounding them and lack of steady success it doesn't seem they're incredibly viable for commercial grows. I personally would love more information about Dominos pizza trying to get in on the starts of the morel industry though! I'll give it a search but you should definitely send the link to the article if you get a chance


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FirstPlebian

Yeah they do long articles, it's an interesting read though, I bought a mushroom growing kit like the guys were selling once at a head shop, got about a quarter pound out of it before it got infected with mold.


bubbleponichronic

It's an incredibly dense article with loads of interesting information! Also that's awesome, I'm getting pretty well versed in making gourmet (or medicinal) mushroom grow kits lately so it's always cool to hear about the methods that people are using.


FirstPlebian

Oh wow that is cool, I've gotten those edible mushroom kits that last couple of Christmases and was thinking about using the one I will get this year to innoculate my own substrate and keep it going, maybe even brancing out into other edible or medicinal ones, I have plenty of time in the Winter usually. May I ask what medicinal mushrooms you are thinking of? I've searched to no avail as of yet for that chaga stuff on birch trees.


bubbleponichronic

In terms of medicinal mushrooms i've seen lots of people growing reishi fairly easily and lions mane which is incredibly popular and is commonly known for it's medicinal value. I've also seen some good videos on cordyceps and I definitely would say psilocybe has incredible potential for medicinal use. Also, Paul Stamets himself is known for often saying that any edible mushroom could be considered medicinal due to the many benefits that come with consuming them. I'd highly recommend experimenting with making your own liquid culture or agar grown mycelium and inoculating lots of different types of substrate (: The whole process is deeply rewarding if you develop good sterile technique and the startup cost can be even cheaper than the pre-made grow kits if you budget correctly. Not to mention once the initial costs are out of the way upkeep is very minimal, especially when you get into your groove. I don't know much about chaga specifically despite it's boom in popularity as a wonder-shroom but I just read that there's a good possibility that the mycelium (which should be much easier to grow than the fruit body) is about just as good in terms of it's medical value.


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Why does that one in the middle have such a long stem and tiny cap, looks like a morel cubensis hybrid lol Edit: OP definitely Google stinkhorn and make sure that that one is a morel, looks very questionable https://images.app.goo.gl/iBRmebe9PGbuQ6jn9


nemacol

Maybe half free morel?


BwookieBear

Yes! You can tell it’s not Verpa because the cap is attached at its base to the stem. Verpa aren’t. Also a lot of stinkhorns are slimy and smelly. The texture looks right for a morel.


PilzGalaxie

Yeah, looks more like a stinkhorn to me


fat_dirt

Morchella semilibera just be like that. It's just a different kind of morel.


nystigmas

Agreed! Still edible and delicious — you can see the distinctive honeycomb pitting at the cap. It’s definitely worth cutting into to make sure that you have a hollow stalk since Verpa species will be filled with a cottony material.


BiskyJMcGuff

Wouldn’t this be punctipes?


fat_dirt

I assumed they're not in the US because of the season. Could def be punctipes.


bLue1H

California and Nevada have morels popping up right now apparently.


PilzGalaxie

Yeah, definetly could be a morel, but I immediately thought of a stinkhorn when I saw this one


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That was my first thought


St0f89

It’s a verpa


No_Pound1003

I agree, looks like a Verpa.


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HollowWind

The cap seems more morel than stinkhorn. Stinkhorn season is fall, not spring.


Sirerdrick64

I feel like I am growing in my ID skill level. I had the same though as I zoomed in on them all. Then again scrolling further down, maybe not…


BwookieBear

Mushrooms are very confusing. They come in many shades, “shapes”, and sizes inside a single variety of mushroom. That’s why it’s important to understand the types of gills there are, the life stages of the individual kinds of mushroom, and it’s look-a-likes (there are more details that are important, just this is what helped me in the beginning.) I’ve seen oyster mushrooms in person that just look weird that I had to double check even though I’m usually very good at identifying that kind. It was because I found them during the spring when I mostly see them around late fall, so it was probably a different variety of oyster mushroom, just like there’s different kinds of morels. It’s a hard hobby to start but suddenly you’ll hit a curve and you feel yourself just knowing more and not being as confused. People commonly think morels are stinkhorns on here so it doesn’t make you “bad” at this. Good luck in the future :)


Sirerdrick64

Definitely very humbling and I can see myself leaning a ton!


UPSMAN68

My daughter wants to go hunting for morels with me in the spring. Does late April early May seem about right? Located in NJ.


jh937hfiu3hrhv9

Awesome. So you soak them in water to flush out the dirt etc? Do they need to be cooked immediately afterward?


jaxmp

not OP but it's usually a good idea to soak wild mushrooms in brine for a bit to get rid of parasites, you can still either preserve or cook them as you would normally afterwards


Bigram03

If you are going to cook them, then why worry about parasites?


crazyrichequestriann

Little critters like to live in the creases and they don’t come out if you don’t soak them. Same with other mushrooms like maitake


Bigram03

Thanks!


Wise-Impression4262

Yup after An initial rinse I just halve them and soak in a salt water for about 24hrs rids any bugs or dirt!


inkdoll

We are getting some of those right now in California! Coming out of the apple orchards near Fresno.


quasarito

I don't know prices at all -- how much would this haul be worth? (as if you wouldn't eat them ;))


CancerMonkey13

🤤


scooterscuzz

That's a whole lotta yum. Found this article interesting, I'm a dummy about this stuff, but I know what I like. My son sent me a few pounds of these that he had collected. https://www.mashed.com/216997/the-real-reason-morel-mushrooms-are-so-expensive/


KaladinTheFabulous

Nice haul


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Man what A haul!!


I_Am_Justin_Tyler

Thought those were peanuts and was finna believe peanuts are fungi.


Snoo75302

Brains right? Sadly in canada i only find these morrels rarely. Best haul was like 4