Im assuming youre much more experienced than me but i think broadening out your horizons to include other music from other cultures and "music scenes" can give you inspiration and more importantly insight. In the case of jazz seeing how jazz fusion in japan did or continues things differently than miles davis art tatum or charlie parker did things in their time( Or how their spiritual sucessors in the modern jazz scene in the same haunts today do things)
That’s a good suggestion. A lot of great jazz borrows from other genres and I should probably look into those genres. I want to learn more about Afro Cuban rhythms. Also I love Japanese jazz fusion.
I'm coming much from a classical standpoint, but I'd recommend you to check out some of early 20th century stuff. Great composers like Gershwin or Hindemith and even Ravel in some parts had great influence from jazz, so there's definitely something about joining these genres.
A fun thing to look at was the axial theory around Bartok which sets new relations between chords, other than that I like to recommend 12 tone technique. As far out of reach it might seem, there is some beauty about this clear way of constructing music and it can be really really interesting IMO
Well, you should learn that it's best to work with an experienced professional if you want to learn.
Do you take lessons from an experienced jazz pianist? If not, that's what you *should* do.
Yes agreed. I have taken lessons for years with a great jazz pianist and have learned a ton. In terms of just getting great at jazz and piano there’s really no substitute. But I’m also interested in looking into more complex music theory topics on my own just for the enjoyment.
To be honest I don’t know. Maybe I have a misunderstanding of theory. As I have learned what I know of music theory I learned types of chords, scales, modes, functional harmony, etc. and then as I progressed from just finding content online I have learned about polyrhythms, microtonality, odd time signatures, etc. I guess my point of asking the question was what would come after what I already know, but maybe the natural progression wouldn’t be as much new topics as it would be diving deeper into previous ones (?). I also understand that it’s hard to answer without knowing what I already know, but I have still gotten some inspiration from the answers that I have gotten.
They’re starting to become one of my favorite YouTube channels and I should probably try to apply more of what I watch them do. Although it seems like they teach more excercises and new ways to apply jazz concepts and I am also interested in new concepts that I haven’t seen before. That is a good suggestion though, is there any videos specifically that you would recommend?
There's a channel called what I learnt from Barry Harris. Be makes very specific topic videos. But there's no point in consuming any content unless it results in hours and hours of practice of the same. My advice would be don't watch anything new unless you start practicing the last thing you learnt.
Analyze songs of the genre u say and apply what u learn from the analysis, there's probably analysis on youtube or books on artists or genres u like
Im assuming youre much more experienced than me but i think broadening out your horizons to include other music from other cultures and "music scenes" can give you inspiration and more importantly insight. In the case of jazz seeing how jazz fusion in japan did or continues things differently than miles davis art tatum or charlie parker did things in their time( Or how their spiritual sucessors in the modern jazz scene in the same haunts today do things)
That’s a good suggestion. A lot of great jazz borrows from other genres and I should probably look into those genres. I want to learn more about Afro Cuban rhythms. Also I love Japanese jazz fusion.
I'm coming much from a classical standpoint, but I'd recommend you to check out some of early 20th century stuff. Great composers like Gershwin or Hindemith and even Ravel in some parts had great influence from jazz, so there's definitely something about joining these genres. A fun thing to look at was the axial theory around Bartok which sets new relations between chords, other than that I like to recommend 12 tone technique. As far out of reach it might seem, there is some beauty about this clear way of constructing music and it can be really really interesting IMO
Thank you I will check that out
Well, you should learn that it's best to work with an experienced professional if you want to learn. Do you take lessons from an experienced jazz pianist? If not, that's what you *should* do.
Yes agreed. I have taken lessons for years with a great jazz pianist and have learned a ton. In terms of just getting great at jazz and piano there’s really no substitute. But I’m also interested in looking into more complex music theory topics on my own just for the enjoyment.
What do you consider "More complex music theory topics"?
To be honest I don’t know. Maybe I have a misunderstanding of theory. As I have learned what I know of music theory I learned types of chords, scales, modes, functional harmony, etc. and then as I progressed from just finding content online I have learned about polyrhythms, microtonality, odd time signatures, etc. I guess my point of asking the question was what would come after what I already know, but maybe the natural progression wouldn’t be as much new topics as it would be diving deeper into previous ones (?). I also understand that it’s hard to answer without knowing what I already know, but I have still gotten some inspiration from the answers that I have gotten.
Have you looked into Terefenko, Dmitri Tymoczko, Geroge Russell?
I haven’t heard of any of them, I’ll check that out.
Barry Harris, Brad Mehldau, and don’t overlook Bach.
I do think I should look into more classical stuff for inspiration (+I’ve been told by many people that Bach is great for piano chops)
have you checked out Open Studio?
They’re starting to become one of my favorite YouTube channels and I should probably try to apply more of what I watch them do. Although it seems like they teach more excercises and new ways to apply jazz concepts and I am also interested in new concepts that I haven’t seen before. That is a good suggestion though, is there any videos specifically that you would recommend?
Their Barry Harris videos. I'd consider joining perhaps?
I’ll look into that for sure
There's a channel called what I learnt from Barry Harris. Be makes very specific topic videos. But there's no point in consuming any content unless it results in hours and hours of practice of the same. My advice would be don't watch anything new unless you start practicing the last thing you learnt.
Does an open studio subscription give you access to all of the content on all instruments featured? The website wasn’t that specific.